Willo of Whiteley Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: I reckon it is. The quotes from Dragan were clearly referring to THB and Adam Blackmore has essentially said he's off. Has he? I mean really? I’ve seen no quote even referencing that he’s off. Only that Dragan Solak has said every player has a price and if an offer comes that is fair for the development of the player and the club we will consider it.
Cuddles Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Would they have taken Downs in exchange?! Not sure we'd allow that. Downs is a full international 😉
hypochondriac Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: Has he? I mean really? I’ve seen no quote even referencing that he’s off. Only that Dragan Solak has said every player has a price and if an offer comes that is fair for the development of the player and the club we will consider it. Incorrect.
lambtiss Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 12 hours ago, LordHester said: Going for a hat trick of relegations then? Spurs are the new West Ham?
Harry_SFC Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 8 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Incorrect. Yeah he pretty much said that it's very difficult for us to keep players who are well into their contracts (clearly referring to THB and Charles). Both will go. Then said we've got more leverage with the other players due to just having bought them (presuming Scienza and Jander) 2
hypochondriac Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 51 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Yeah he pretty much said that it's very difficult for us to keep players who are well into their contracts (clearly referring to THB and Charles). Both will go. Then said we've got more leverage with the other players due to just having bought them (presuming Scienza and Jander) Yep. Clear we need to sell more than one player and quite clear who he was referring to. If we are to sell Scienza or Jander then we will look to extract the maximum amount whilst those who have been here longer Charles and thb- are more likely to be sold.
Saint Garrett Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Will be gutted if / when THB goes. One of my fav Saints players in recent seasons and he was class last season. Needs to be playing in the prem to grow now though really and he’ll be aiming for the Euros squad in 2 years. There for the taking IMO. 7
Gloucester Saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Heard Pompey are looking for a new midfielder. During the WC, I think I’ve found the perfect fit for them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphephelo_Sithole 3
Football Special Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 56 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Will be gutted if / when THB goes. One of my fav Saints players in recent seasons and he was class last season. Needs to be playing in the prem to grow now though really and he’ll be aiming for the Euros squad in 2 years. There for the taking IMO. I agree, would be a huge loss for us and has real potential, like Fernandes where West Ham doubled their money in one season i see THB value going a similar way Shame Newcastle spent their GK budget on that French lad, could have done with them chucking us £20M for Ramsdale
ally_uk Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago What would the asking price be for THB ? 30 million minimum ? 1
UpweySaint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Harry_SFC said: Yeah he pretty much said that it's very difficult for us to keep players who are well into their contracts (clearly referring to THB and Charles). Both will go. Then said we've got more leverage with the other players due to just having bought them (presuming Scienza and Jander) The thing is I am struggling to see who is going to put down the sort of fee we would want for THB. Maybe Leeds now they have sold Strujk? I expect we value him pretty highly and I would be curious if anybody in the prem is willing to match it as he’s not yet proven himself in the prem so represents a modest risk - fwiw I think he is more than capable of playing at that level. If he does go it will be interesting to see how we replace him. It will be tough to replicate his leadership and experience as much as the playing ability. Hoping Spors can pull a European rabbit out of the hat.
UpweySaint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, ally_uk said: What would the asking price be for THB ? 30 million minimum ? I expect so. 25-30 up front with lots of add ons would be my best guess. 1
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, UpweySaint said: The thing is I am struggling to see who is going to put down the sort of fee we would want for THB. Maybe Leeds now they have sold Strujk? I expect we value him pretty highly and I would be curious if anybody in the prem is willing to match it as he’s not yet proven himself in the prem so represents a modest risk - fwiw I think he is more than capable of playing at that level. If he does go it will be interesting to see how we replace him. It will be tough to replicate his leadership and experience as much as the playing ability. Hoping Spors can pull a European rabbit out of the hat. Think this is the key to it. Brighton were obviously looking for a centre half and yet THB was not seemingly under consideration for them. As you say, Leeds maybe will look at him now, but it does seem he is still tainted by that shocking Premier League season. 1
revolution saint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, UpweySaint said: The thing is I am struggling to see who is going to put down the sort of fee we would want for THB. Maybe Leeds now they have sold Strujk? I expect we value him pretty highly and I would be curious if anybody in the prem is willing to match it as he’s not yet proven himself in the prem so represents a modest risk - fwiw I think he is more than capable of playing at that level. If he does go it will be interesting to see how we replace him. It will be tough to replicate his leadership and experience as much as the playing ability. Hoping Spors can pull a European rabbit out of the hat. I think we probably would have sold THB last summer if a decent offer came in but doesn't seem like anything did. I'm not sure we can expect anyone to bid more than last summer given he has a year less left on his contract and all he's done last season is prove he's a very good championship player (which he'd already done anyway). 1
SouSaint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Dan Neil was in talks over a free transfer to Southampton last week & looked to have opted for Saints, but things changed significantly over the last 48 hours & Rangers have swooped #saintsfc @SkySports_Keith
CSA96 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) U-turned and decided to sign for Rangers instead… ah well, don’t want people who don’t want to be here enough. European football and closer to home in South Shields, fair enough I suppose Edited 3 hours ago by CSA96 2
Oldandtired Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I wonder if the uncertainty over the manager situation has any bearing on possible transfer dealings? Does who the manager is/going to be make any difference?
Give it to Ron Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Oldandtired said: I wonder if the uncertainty over the manager situation has any bearing on possible transfer dealings? Does who the manager is/going to be make any difference? Didn’t seem to worry Larin or Peretz 7
Eric The Red Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, ally_uk said: What would the asking price be for THB ? 30 million minimum ? With only 2 years left on his contract I think £20m is about as much as we could expect. By the way I'm sure if anyone offered £15m for Ramsdale then we would gladly move him on
disconnect Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Oldandtired said: I wonder if the uncertainty over the manager situation has any bearing on possible transfer dealings? Does who the manager is/going to be make any difference? Or we've got someone better lined up? It's not like we don't have a manager or won't be one of the biggest clubs in the Championship next season. I'm sure Neil would be a good player in Scotland, but was decidely average last season for Ipswich (worse than any of our current midfield options) so not sure we should feel we've particularly missed out. 1
saintant Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 34 minutes ago, CSA96 said: U-turned and decided to sign for Rangers instead… ah well, don’t want people who don’t want to be here enough. European football and closer to home in South Shields, fair enough I suppose Can't say I'm disappointed. 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Look at it this way. Boyhood Sunderland player. Shipped out on loan after promotion, didn’t play much. Released. He’s the northern equivalent of Will Smallbone. Not worth getting worked up about, and potentially a waste of money dodged. 6
Turkish Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 37 minutes ago, CSA96 said: U-turned and decided to sign for Rangers instead… ah well, don’t want people who don’t want to be here enough. European football and closer to home in South Shields, fair enough I suppose I thought we were told there was no way on earth any Scottish team could offer any player a beater deal that we could?
Saint86 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Bad business if we let Bristol City sign Ballard when we can pick him up for a 22% discount. He could absolutely do a job for us this season. Edited 2 hours ago by Saint86 1
CSA96 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Saint86 said: Bad business if we let Bristol City sign Ballard when we can pick him up for a 22% discount. He could absolutely do a job for us this season. Could he? We play with one up top and they need to be someone to play up to and off of Adam Armstrong couldn’t hack that role despite having a better scoring record and more physicality than Ballard People need to pump the brakes on Ballard a bit I feel 11
Gloucester Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 56 minutes ago, CSA96 said: U-turned and decided to sign for Rangers instead… ah well, don’t want people who don’t want to be here enough. European football and closer to home in South Shields, fair enough I suppose Clearly a good player but the feedback from Sunderland and Ipswich fans about lack of physicality was a concern. We’ve just offloaded Smallbone as he is too lightweight to compete in a central two so bringing in someone where that might have repeated itself might not have been the right move. Good luck to Dan at Rangers though, good move for him and them.
EBS1980 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, CSA96 said: U-turned and decided to sign for Rangers instead… ah well, don’t want people who don’t want to be here enough. European football and closer to home in South Shields, fair enough I suppose Assuming we were actually interested in first place. Was only some Sky journalist who said we were. It’s silly season, stories will come out to push the actual interested club into action. 2
Chez Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, revolution saint said: I think we probably would have sold THB last summer if a decent offer came in but doesn't seem like anything did. I'm not sure we can expect anyone to bid more than last summer given he has a year less left on his contract and all he's done last season is prove he's a very good championship player (which he'd already done anyway). PL teams that watch his PL tape are going to be reluctant to spend £30m on his I'd of thought. Perhaps he has improved over the last year (not sure) but a player from oversees might be a more attractive option, assuming their scouting is half decent. 1
VectisSaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, CSA96 said: U-turned and decided to sign for Rangers instead… ah well, don’t want people who don’t want to be here enough. European football and closer to home in South Shields, fair enough I suppose Just an idle thought but maybe he realised he wasn't going to get much game time given we have 4 good players in his position(s). Maybe he was sold a situation which has now changed.
Chez Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 26 minutes ago, EBS1980 said: Assuming we were actually interested in first place. Was only some Sky journalist who said we were. It’s silly season, stories will come out to push the actual interested club into action. I was going to say the same. Public Saints link immediately proceeded signing a contract with the original suitor. What a surprise. Wasn't convinced by him to be honest. I'm hoping we can find someone better.
Chez Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 41 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Could he? We play with one up top and they need to be someone to play up to and off of Adam Armstrong couldn’t hack that role despite having a better scoring record and more physicality than Ballard People need to pump the brakes on Ballard a bit I feel Agreed. We don't need a small forward, we need a Stewart replacement. Big, string, pacey and scores goals.
Chez Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Eric The Red said: With only 2 years left on his contract I think £20m is about as much as we could expect. By the way I'm sure if anyone offered £15m for Ramsdale then we would gladly move him on £20m with a sizeable sell on clause maybe? I think we will be reluctant to sell for that because its hard to attract talent whilst in the championship. We did a great job last season, but are there any other gems left in our director of football's little black book? 1
Fabrice29 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 53 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Bad business if we let Bristol City sign Ballard when we can pick him up for a 22% discount. He could absolutely do a job for us this season. ‘Doing a job’ for someone isn’t a move Ballard should be making given he’s just had his first season as a regular starter. If you assume he’ll be an Archer replacement then those minutes Archer got last season shouldn’t be appealing to him. Think people need to get over him, tidy player but was clearly the right move for everyone when it happened and don’t really see the appeal for either side to jump back in immediately at the first sign of success. Let him flourish elsewhere, it’s okay. Edited 1 hour ago by Fabrice29 3
redkeith Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 48 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Clearly a good player but the feedback from Sunderland and Ipswich fans about lack of physicality was a concern. We’ve just offloaded Smallbone as he is too lightweight to compete in a central two so bringing in someone where that might have repeated itself might not have been the right move. Good luck to Dan at Rangers though, good move for him and them. Maybe, having already been let go by 2 clubs that got promoted, he didn't want to risk it again ? 2
St Louis Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago I'm not too disappointed by Dan Neil moving to Rangers, having read this on the Ipswich Forum and spoken with a friend who is an Ipswich ST Holder, it seems he's pretty average: https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/629721/dan-neil/page:1 1
hypochondriac Posted 58 minutes ago Posted 58 minutes ago Hopefully we didn't want Neil in the end. Would be a shame to get turned down if we were looking to sign him. I trust we can get a good replacement anyway but a free transfer would have been beneficial. 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago Dom Ballard was sold for a reason. He was deemed not good enough. Frankly if we want to be pushing for the Premier League we need proven experience and someone that has the potential to do it. DB with his injury record and one season in League One doesn’t warrant that. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 46 minutes ago Posted 46 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Willo of Whiteley said: Dom Ballard was sold for a reason. He was deemed not good enough. Frankly if we want to be pushing for the Premier League we need proven experience and someone that has the potential to do it. DB with his injury record and one season in League One doesn’t warrant that. He was sold as Damion Downs was seen a s much better bet. Let that sink in 1
Baird of the land Posted 42 minutes ago Posted 42 minutes ago 16 minutes ago, St Louis said: I'm not too disappointed by Dan Neil moving to Rangers, having read this on the Ipswich Forum and spoken with a friend who is an Ipswich ST Holder, it seems he's pretty average: https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/629721/dan-neil/page:1 I’m relieved, didn’t see him fitting what we needed. 1
JohnnyShearer2.0 Posted 34 minutes ago Posted 34 minutes ago 10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: He was sold as Damion Downs was seen a s much better bet. Let that sink in In fairness, at the time, it was probably the case. 1
davefizzy14 Posted 30 minutes ago Posted 30 minutes ago We've got a lot of quality already in midfield so I don't see where Dan Neil would have fitted in.
ally_uk Posted 27 minutes ago Posted 27 minutes ago Striker wise I'd rather go for someone with more physical presence up top. Salech, Tolaj, Futkeu, Lankshear Are 4 I would make a priority.
hypochondriac Posted 1 minute ago Posted 1 minute ago 27 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: We've got a lot of quality already in midfield so I don't see where Dan Neil would have fitted in. We will be looking to sell some of that quality so he would have been a replacement.
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