Challenger Posted Thursday at 18:03 Posted Thursday at 18:03 17 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Come on Leeds, you just sold Struijk on June 30th, so it’s a blank slate in your finances now. Yorkshiremen, tighter than crabs arses don't thee know lad. 1 1
SuperSAINT Posted Thursday at 18:33 Posted Thursday at 18:33 https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-crisis-forces-rethink-on-e29m-asking-price-leeds-and-brazilian-heavyweights-keen/
Katalinic Posted Thursday at 18:35 Posted Thursday at 18:35 1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said: https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-crisis-forces-rethink-on-e29m-asking-price-leeds-and-brazilian-heavyweights-keen/ Sounds like the opposite of what Solak said. Doubt that article is based on anything factual. 1
sfc4prem Posted Thursday at 18:40 Posted Thursday at 18:40 7 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-crisis-forces-rethink-on-e29m-asking-price-leeds-and-brazilian-heavyweights-keen/ No news in that article at all. Seems to be speculation and fluff. 3
Turkish Posted Thursday at 19:15 Posted Thursday at 19:15 39 minutes ago, Katalinic said: Sounds like the opposite of what Solak said. Doubt that article is based on anything factual. Solak isn’t going to say we’re going to sell them off cheap is he 😂 if we get an offer that meets near our valuation he’ll go, it’s as simple as that
hypochondriac Posted Thursday at 19:57 Posted Thursday at 19:57 8 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: The trouble was Saints wanted to keep him but reckoned he needed another loan and Dom was not interested in going out on loan again Doesn't explain why we wouldn't have resigned him in January if we had the chance to do so.
Channons Windmill Posted Thursday at 20:55 Posted Thursday at 20:55 56 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Doesn't explain why we wouldn't have resigned him in January if we had the chance to do so. I saw him play a few times for Orient last season, including a hat-trick at Wimbledon. Take the sentiment out of it, he still looks like a decent League One striker who has found his level. We need to be looking at players that can improve the team and play at a higher level, not ones who could ‘do a job’… 6 1
hypochondriac Posted Thursday at 21:20 Posted Thursday at 21:20 25 minutes ago, Channons Windmill said: I saw him play a few times for Orient last season, including a hat-trick at Wimbledon. Take the sentiment out of it, he still looks like a decent League One striker who has found his level. We need to be looking at players that can improve the team and play at a higher level, not ones who could ‘do a job’… Why did we want to keep him in the summer then ? 1
Katalinic Posted Thursday at 21:29 Posted Thursday at 21:29 2 hours ago, Turkish said: Solak isn’t going to say we’re going to sell them off cheap is he 😂 if we get an offer that meets near our valuation he’ll go, it’s as simple as that I was actually referencing the comments around the financial situation in the article. I agree with your other comments btw. 2
Chez Posted Friday at 06:23 Posted Friday at 06:23 13 hours ago, CSA96 said: Report says other report is inaccurate.
BarberSaint Posted Friday at 06:45 Posted Friday at 06:45 18 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: The trouble was Saints wanted to keep him but reckoned he needed another loan and Dom was not interested in going out on loan again Then buy him back.
Charlie Wayman Posted Friday at 06:53 Posted Friday at 06:53 6 minutes ago, BarberSaint said: Then buy him back. No. We need to move away from soft centred sentimentality. Move on. 4
hypochondriac Posted Friday at 07:03 Posted Friday at 07:03 9 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: No. We need to move away from soft centred sentimentality. Move on. I'm not saying that we should buy him back, simply that if the reports that we wanted him still were true then we still have the opportunity now to buy him. If we don't then I question the report that we ever wanted to. 3
skintsaint Posted Friday at 08:40 Posted Friday at 08:40 Not too fussed about Ballard leaving and scoring goals for Orient. If he moved to the Championship though and banged in 15+ goals in a season then I would be more fussed. Till he does that then someone else can take the punt on him in this league. 2
SaintLondon Posted Friday at 10:58 Posted Friday at 10:58 Very quiet isn't it - it's obvs v early but not even any BS rumours
Danwulfe Posted Friday at 11:33 Posted Friday at 11:33 31 minutes ago, SaintLondon said: Very quiet isn't it - it's obvs v early but not even any BS rumours Dan Neil was expected to join but changed his mind for Rangers. And we're in talks with others while still trying to shift deadwood.
Badger Posted Friday at 11:35 Posted Friday at 11:35 (edited) 39 minutes ago, SaintLondon said: Very quiet isn't it - it's obvs v early but not even any BS rumours To a point, although we’ve made two early signings (good moves I think all would agree), and rumoured to be close to signing Neil (so back to the drawing board perhaps on that position) before he went to Rangers We’ve been linked with others, Mulligan and Noel Fuck-it (or whatever his name is). No idea how close to the mark or tenuous they are. I’d expect things to ramp up it next couple of weeks. There’s also the WC on, and although we might not be shopping in that market, it will have a knock on effect as to who other clubs might be willing to release. Edited Friday at 11:37 by Badger Bastard autotext 1
Badger Posted Friday at 11:36 Posted Friday at 11:36 2 minutes ago, Danwulfe said: Dan Neil was expected to join but changed his mind for Rangers. And we're in talks with others while still trying to shift deadwood. And the £25m rated ..
hypochondriac Posted Friday at 11:46 Posted Friday at 11:46 13 minutes ago, Danwulfe said: Dan Neil was expected to join but changed his mind for Rangers. And we're in talks with others while still trying to shift deadwood. I'm sure we are but I haven't seen links to that effect.
Danwulfe Posted Friday at 11:47 Posted Friday at 11:47 11 minutes ago, Badger said: And the £25m rated .. We're in no rush to sell still has another year if we choose to extend
Chez Posted Friday at 12:18 Posted Friday at 12:18 18 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I'm sure we are but I haven't seen links to that effect. Transfermarkt has a page dedicated to links to incoming players https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-southampton/geruechte/verein/180#google_vignette and there are five in there, not including the three signings we have already completed. This page shows all the championship signings https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/transfers/wettbewerb/GB2. Other than Stoke, most have only brought one or two in so far.
Chez Posted Friday at 12:22 Posted Friday at 12:22 Keeper Ollie Wright signs a new three year deal then goes out on loan to Gillingham: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cg4w094e10go 2
Nolan Posted Friday at 13:42 Posted Friday at 13:42 6 hours ago, BarberSaint said: Then buy him back. Let's agree an better way forward. Buying him back would be embarrassing. Let's offer a refund with an additional extra for looking after him.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted Friday at 14:20 Posted Friday at 14:20 7 hours ago, BarberSaint said: Then buy him back. Maybe they still don't think he's good enough
beatlesaint Posted Friday at 14:42 Posted Friday at 14:42 21 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: Maybe they still don't think he's good enough The measure to that in my mind would be is he better than Cameron Archer. 2
Badger Posted Friday at 15:07 Posted Friday at 15:07 2 hours ago, Chez said: Transfermarkt has a page dedicated to links to incoming players https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-southampton/geruechte/verein/180#google_vignette and there are five in there, not including the three signings we have already completed. This page shows all the championship signings https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/transfers/wettbewerb/GB2. Other than Stoke, most have only brought one or two in so far. Having a delve through the Transfermarkt pages and found a rumour of Quarshie going to Bundesliga 2 (Kaiserslautern) for €4m.
Chez Posted Friday at 15:56 Posted Friday at 15:56 39 minutes ago, Badger said: Having a delve through the Transfermarkt pages and found a rumour of Quarshie going to Bundesliga 2 (Kaiserslautern) for €4m. Can't find the original source of that story. He's still young for a CB and has the physical attributes we set out to get, but my guess is his lack of technical ability with ball shows up a lot in training and at the top level you've got to have it. If he looks uncomfortable on the ball all the time, then we might look to offload, but unless that's the case, I doubt the couple of errors we saw when he played are enough for us to cut our losses already. 2
disconnect Posted Friday at 16:08 Posted Friday at 16:08 7 minutes ago, Chez said: Can't find the original source of that story. He's still young for a CB and has the physical attributes we set out to get, but my guess is his lack of technical ability with ball shows up a lot in training and at the top level you've got to have it. If he looks uncomfortable on the ball all the time, then we might look to offload, but unless that's the case, I doubt the couple of errors we saw when he played are enough for us to cut our losses already. He's barely been given a chance, but probably needs regular game time. I thought he looked pretty decent (quick and obviously good in the air), but not quite good enough to be a starter. What's happened to Kayi-Sanda (sold to us as France's best upcoming centre back...)? Thought he also did look promising. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted Friday at 16:20 Posted Friday at 16:20 11 minutes ago, disconnect said: He's barely been given a chance, but probably needs regular game time. I thought he looked pretty decent (quick and obviously good in the air), but not quite good enough to be a starter. What's happened to Kayi-Sanda (sold to us as France's best upcoming centre back...)? Thought he also did look promising. Was on loan to Red Star in Ligue 2 for first half of last season. Not bad progress for a 19 year-old CB. Has played for France at age levels but so did Yoann Folly. 1
hypochondriac Posted Friday at 16:26 Posted Friday at 16:26 2 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: Maybe they still don't think he's good enough Presumably if the intention was to keep him and loan him out they wouldn't have been expecting a better season than the one he just had. If they still don't think he is good enough then why would they have bothered keeping him and loaning him out ?
Badger Posted Friday at 16:57 Posted Friday at 16:57 48 minutes ago, disconnect said: He's barely been given a chance, but probably needs regular game time. I thought he looked pretty decent (quick and obviously good in the air), but not quite good enough to be a starter. What's happened to Kayi-Sanda (sold to us as France's best upcoming centre back...)? Thought he also did look promising. Inclined to agree, and he didn't look out of place, and no worse than others at the time. BUT, that was in one of our worst ever teams. 1
Badger Posted Friday at 16:58 Posted Friday at 16:58 37 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Was on loan to Red Star in Ligue 2 for first half of last season. Not bad progress for a 19 year-old CB. Has played for France at age levels but so did Yoann Folly. Why only half a season, did they send him back ?
ally_uk Posted Friday at 17:09 Posted Friday at 17:09 Number 10 and a big unit of a striker. Where are they? Come on Dragan chop chop
bugenhagen Posted Friday at 18:05 Posted Friday at 18:05 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Presumably if the intention was to keep him and loan him out they wouldn't have been expecting a better season than the one he just had. If they still don't think he is good enough then why would they have bothered keeping him and loaning him out ? One reason could be that he would be worth more as a sellable asset. As long as he is/was ours, the club would look at him (and value him) different than when he is a player of another club. It might just be my way of thinking, but I don't find this Ballard situation so strange. Would love to have seen him make it here, but now I think we should treat him as any other potential transfer target - and I don't know if I would be that keen on him if it wasn't for the fact that he came through the ranks here.
Divergent Posted Friday at 18:22 Posted Friday at 18:22 I’ve never been ITK and I’m not sure whether I am now but I was told today that JWP is on his way back to Southampton. Don’t know if he’s a purchase or a loan. Two sources - 1 from someone linked to club and 1 linked to JWP. Am happy to be proved wrong. 7 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted Friday at 18:22 Posted Friday at 18:22 5 hours ago, Chez said: Keeper Ollie Wright signs a new three year deal then goes out on loan to Gillingham: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cg4w094e10go I mean fair play because he’ll get good money but he’s never going to have a Saints career.
Hawkswood Posted Friday at 19:04 Posted Friday at 19:04 41 minutes ago, Divergent said: I’ve never been ITK and I’m not sure whether I am now but I was told today that JWP is on his way back to Southampton. Don’t know if he’s a purchase or a loan. Two sources - 1 from someone linked to club and 1 linked to JWP. Am happy to be proved wrong. Ill be very happy if youre proved wrong. Nothing personal to do with you obviously. 😀
qwertyell Posted Friday at 19:07 Posted Friday at 19:07 39 minutes ago, Divergent said: I’ve never been ITK and I’m not sure whether I am now but I was told today that JWP is on his way back to Southampton. Don’t know if he’s a purchase or a loan. Two sources - 1 from someone linked to club and 1 linked to JWP. Am happy to be proved wrong. Is it one of Ralph Krueger's mythical pledges that the club must re-sign an over-the-hill splitter every season? Hard to make progress when you keep looking (and passing) backwards.
Saint86 Posted Friday at 19:40 Posted Friday at 19:40 34 minutes ago, Hawkswood said: Ill be very happy if youre proved wrong. Nothing personal to do with you obviously. 😀 Really? JWP on good wages and a free transfer / loan in the championship is an absolute no brainer, especially with the amount of fouls saints tend to get 😅 8
Saint Scott Posted Friday at 19:48 Posted Friday at 19:48 1 hour ago, Divergent said: I’ve never been ITK and I’m not sure whether I am now but I was told today that JWP is on his way back to Southampton. Don’t know if he’s a purchase or a loan. Two sources - 1 from someone linked to club and 1 linked to JWP. Am happy to be proved wrong. Maybe he's next on the list after Neil chose rangers
hypochondriac Posted Friday at 19:51 Posted Friday at 19:51 2 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Maybe he's next on the list after Neil chose rangers It wouldn't be a huge surprise let's be honest. Downes Jwp Bragg and jander/new signing is a decent championship midfield. Particularly if Jwp is free.
Nolan Posted Friday at 20:37 Posted Friday at 20:37 1 hour ago, qwertyell said: Is it one of Ralph Krueger's mythical pledges that the club must re-sign an over-the-hill splitter every season? Hard to make progress when you keep looking (and passing) backwards. You don't think JWP is intelligent enough to follow Eckerts instructions on style of play? 2
Charlie Wayman Posted Friday at 21:01 Posted Friday at 21:01 9 hours ago, SaintLondon said: Very quiet isn't it - it's obvs v early but not even any BS rumours In some ways the quieter the better, it may mean that few if any of our players are agitating to get away in which case the Club will be in a great position to bat away speculative enquiries for our better players. If we lose none then the impertaive to buy replacements is reduced and we can face the rest of the window in a far more relaxed frame of mind. Cool heads make much better decisions. Yes, we have to replace Stewart and quite possibly Charles although there doesn't seem to be much disquiet from the player about wanting out. Fingers crossed that a pin dropping will be the only ditressing noise that we have to face in the run up to our first match.
Charlie Wayman Posted Friday at 21:09 Posted Friday at 21:09 25 minutes ago, Nolan said: You don't think JWP is intelligent enough to follow Eckerts instructions on style of play? Why are we even talking about yesterday's journeyman, why would the club saddle themselves with a huge salary bill for a bit part player who has failed in the PL at WHU and could never challenge Downes and Jander for a starting place. Bragg is the future, our Academy lad made good if we really need "one of our own" for PR 5 1
AlexLaw76 Posted Friday at 21:10 Posted Friday at 21:10 Just now, Charlie Wayman said: Why are we even talking about yesterday's journeyman, why would the club saddle themselves with a huge salary bill for a bit part player who has failed in the PL at WHU and could never challenge Downes and Jander for a starting place. Bragg is the future, our Academy lad made good if we really need "one of our own" for PR I bet he does, and I bet he starts most weeks and quickly becomes one of our better players. 4 1
saintant Posted Friday at 21:12 Posted Friday at 21:12 2 hours ago, Divergent said: I’ve never been ITK and I’m not sure whether I am now but I was told today that JWP is on his way back to Southampton. Don’t know if he’s a purchase or a loan. Two sources - 1 from someone linked to club and 1 linked to JWP. Am happy to be proved wrong. Hope you are proved wrong. Good player though he was he's not what we need now. 4
AlexLaw76 Posted Friday at 21:14 Posted Friday at 21:14 1 minute ago, saintant said: Hope you are proved wrong. Good player though he was he's not what we need now. What do we need now?
saintant Posted Friday at 21:18 Posted Friday at 21:18 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: What do we need now? Strong, athletic players with the skills to play at Championship level and possibly above. Just my opinion and clearly you will disagree which is fine by me. 1
Ex Lion Tamer Posted Friday at 21:21 Posted Friday at 21:21 JWP's main problem is he lacks a yard of pace at the top level, which won't be a problem at all in the Championship. I think he'd be a top signing 2
madge Posted Friday at 21:28 Posted Friday at 21:28 6 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: JWP's main problem is he lacks a yard of pace at the top level, which won't be a problem at all in the Championship. I think he'd be a top signing Agree and don’t forget he was an England international. Still would be a top player in the championship. 1
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