hypochondriac Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, goodymatt said: I think it's clear that we are only letting archer go if we are getting another striker in. 3
BarberSaint Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Pilchards said: Not in a million years is he going to step in if Larin got injured. A tall strong striker is someone that holds the ball up and allows the midfield to move up the pitch. Mubama yesterday was nudged off the ball a couple of times and it was mentioned by the radio solent team that he needs to be stronger as he’s getting bullied. WE WILL SIGN A TARGET STRIKER. They actually have different styles, too, so unless DM learns to be a target man/presence to add to his existing style he won't offer us the same. He should be pretty good as a player to look for Azaz' through balls though.
Oisin Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Tonda showed quite a lot of tactical adaptability across his front line last season. I think (but of course could well be wrong) that DM is for when he wants a traditional 2 forwards, whether from the start or as a game adapts. Azaz further forward doesn’t work. I think he still wants a second, back-up or rotational target man for/with Cyle. Where that leaves Dobbin other than a more direct style lw to sub on for Leo is a separate point. But as I see it Tonda wants options for 3 of the front 4 to go with a proper number 9. He has all the options now, but (other than Damion Downs) doesn’t have a replacement number 9. we don’t have unlimited funds, so it will depend on shifting Downs and Archer but if both (and possibly just one) are moved on I reckon we’ll see another number 9 style forward come in. Everything else now depends on who we lose. A gk if Ramsdale goes, a cb if THB, a cm if Jander, a winger if Edozie. And a rb if we lose both Sugawara and Roerslev. We can shift Larios and one of the right backs without needing to replace so I expect that to happen too. As I said, I could be miles off but I think that’s the logic 3
Cuddles Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Oisin said: Tonda showed quite a lot of tactical adaptability across his front line last season. I think (but of course could well be wrong) that DM is for when he wants a traditional 2 forwards, whether from the start or as a game adapts. Azaz further forward doesn’t work. I think he still wants a second, back-up or rotational target man for/with Cyle. Where that leaves Dobbin other than a more direct style lw to sub on for Leo is a separate point. But as I see it Tonda wants options for 3 of the front 4 to go with a proper number 9. He has all the options now, but (other than Damion Downs) doesn’t have a replacement number 9. we don’t have unlimited funds, so it will depend on shifting Downs and Archer but if both (and possibly just one) are moved on I reckon we’ll see another number 9 style forward come in. Everything else now depends on who we lose. A gk if Ramsdale goes, a cb if THB, a cm if Jander, a winger if Edozie. And a rb if we lose both Sugawara and Roerslev. We can shift Larios and one of the right backs without needing to replace so I expect that to happen too. As I said, I could be miles off but I think that’s the logic Agree, based on my rather sketchy streams, Mubama doesn't hold the ball up like Larin. We need another big guy up top. 5
saintant Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Are we still thinking 4 more signings before Wednesday? GK CB Winger Striker Can't see it myself.
saintant Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 46 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Preston will offer 3 shirt buttons and an out of date luncheon voucher. 1 1
saintant Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Oisin said: Tonda showed quite a lot of tactical adaptability across his front line last season. I think (but of course could well be wrong) that DM is for when he wants a traditional 2 forwards, whether from the start or as a game adapts. Azaz further forward doesn’t work. I think he still wants a second, back-up or rotational target man for/with Cyle. Where that leaves Dobbin other than a more direct style lw to sub on for Leo is a separate point. But as I see it Tonda wants options for 3 of the front 4 to go with a proper number 9. He has all the options now, but (other than Damion Downs) doesn’t have a replacement number 9. we don’t have unlimited funds, so it will depend on shifting Downs and Archer but if both (and possibly just one) are moved on I reckon we’ll see another number 9 style forward come in. Everything else now depends on who we lose. A gk if Ramsdale goes, a cb if THB, a cm if Jander, a winger if Edozie. And a rb if we lose both Sugawara and Roerslev. We can shift Larios and one of the right backs without needing to replace so I expect that to happen too. As I said, I could be miles off but I think that’s the logic Dobbin is poor on the left. His best work is in the middle. 3
Badger Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 15 hours ago, Baird of the land said: Is dobbin not already effectively the archer replacement? As for downs, not sure what sort of player we’d be looking to bring in to be 3rd choice striker and play very few minutes. I thought when he was first mentioned he was Archer MkII. Certainly not the CF we needed at the time. From the very limited game time I’ve not seen a lot to get excited about.
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago When you think about how Tonda got Archer performing (to a degree) towards the end of last season, there's every chance that Dobbin will start showing more if he's given time 6
hypochondriac Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 38 minutes ago, saintant said: Can't see it myself. Why? As a minimum we will be getting a backup gk, THB replacement and you would think a striker almost certainly if Archer and Downs goes. If we let Edozie go surely we replace him. Maybe a loan. Edited 9 hours ago by hypochondriac
Turkish Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 33 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Why? As a minimum we will be getting a backup gk, THB replacement and you would think a striker almost certainly if Archer and Downs goes. If we let Edozie go surely we replace him. Maybe a loan. Solly March you’d think would replace Edozie. Weird how every window seems to be loads of links but he never leaves. He needs new start. For us March, Fellows, Matsuki and Scienza are 4 good wingers Downs and Sugawara both meant to have offers on the table so hopefully they’ll go. the concern is Ramsdale no one seems to be interested we really can’t be having him hanging around on a big wage Edited 8 hours ago by Turkish 3
Football Special Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Oisin said: Tonda showed quite a lot of tactical adaptability across his front line last season. I think (but of course could well be wrong) that DM is for when he wants a traditional 2 forwards, whether from the start or as a game adapts. Azaz further forward doesn’t work. I think he still wants a second, back-up or rotational target man for/with Cyle. Where that leaves Dobbin other than a more direct style lw to sub on for Leo is a separate point. But as I see it Tonda wants options for 3 of the front 4 to go with a proper number 9. He has all the options now, but (other than Damion Downs) doesn’t have a replacement number 9. we don’t have unlimited funds, so it will depend on shifting Downs and Archer but if both (and possibly just one) are moved on I reckon we’ll see another number 9 style forward come in. Everything else now depends on who we lose. A gk if Ramsdale goes, a cb if THB, a cm if Jander, a winger if Edozie. And a rb if we lose both Sugawara and Roerslev. We can shift Larios and one of the right backs without needing to replace so I expect that to happen too. As I said, I could be miles off but I think that’s the logic Tuesday could be a mad day with all that business to do and Tonda preparing the team for Birmingham away
Football Special Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: Solly March you’d think would replace Edozie. Weird how every window seems to be loads of links but he never leaves. He needs new start. For us March, Fellows, Matsuki and Scienza are 4 good wingers the concern is Ramsdale no one seems to be interested we really can’t be having him hanging around on a big wage Its always confusing when windows in other leagues close at a later date, can see us still trying to offload Ramsdale, maybe he'd fancy a year earning tax free out in Saudi on loan, I'm sure their transfer window stays open for a few more weeks
skintsaint Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Badger said: From the very limited game time I’ve not seen a lot to get excited about. In his 10mins yesterday, he played a big role in the 5th goal with a quick 1/2 to get behind the defence. So not sure what else he has to do to impress people in such a short space of time. Hit 2 goals or something from 30 yards?
Obstacle1 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 7 minutes ago, skintsaint said: In his 10mins yesterday, he played a big role in the 5th goal with a quick 1/2 to get behind the defence. So not sure what else he has to do to impress people in such a short space of time. Hit 2 goals or something from 30 yards? I wont settle for anything less than a goal a minute. But seriously i think he has shown glimpses of being a decent player, hes not a Damion Downs write off 2 2
Turkish Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Football Special said: Its always confusing when windows in other leagues close at a later date, can see us still trying to offload Ramsdale, maybe he'd fancy a year earning tax free out in Saudi on loan, I'm sure their transfer window stays open for a few more weeks I’ve no idea when any of them close. I’ve also never understood how you can have months to make a signing yet there are always ones that go right to the deadline, of course clubs and players hold out for the best moves but it just seems all so unnecessary 4
spyinthesky Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Obstacle1 said: I wont settle for anything less than a goal a minute. But seriously i think he has shown glimpses of being a decent player, hes not a Damion Downs write off I hope so too. He showed some potential pre season and it may be just a case of bedding in. I was amongst those who thought Larin was an unfit and ungainly striker when he was first brought it but realise now how wrong I was. 1
Dan Johnson Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: of course clubs and players hold out for the best moves That’s the very reason, add to that most moves are a deck of cards held up by other moves for selling teams replacements etc. just look at the players on free transfers at the moment, it’s crazy some of those players haven’t found a club. 1
jrobsbigshorts Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) Fair play to the club , it seemed obvious Stephens had to be replaced but clubs don't always do the obvious, early days but Schlotterbeck looks a bargain and just what we needed , I thought it was a great show of character that he remained composed after that early costly error and went on to have a very impressive debut I wasn't that convinced about re signing JWP but watching him yesterday I realised I'd underestimated that actually a player with that many top flight minutes behind him is a huge asset to a club in our position Couple more good signings and the autos are on COYR Edited 8 hours ago by jrobsbigshorts 4
East Kent Saint Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Just now, jrobsbigshorts said: Fair play to the club , it seemed obvious Stephens had to be replaced but clubs don't always do the obvious, early days but Schlotterbeck looks a bargain and just what we needed , I thought it was a great show of character that he remained composed after that early costly error and went on to have a very impressive debut On wasn't that convinced about re signing JWP but watching him yesterday I realised I'd underestimated that actually a player with that many top flight minutes behind him is a huge asset to a club in our position Couple more good signings and the autos are on COYR I wouldn't classify his deflection as a costly error , it could have gone anywhere! 2
Harry_SFC Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said: I wouldn't classify his deflection as a costly error , it could have gone anywhere! Wasn't his fault at all. Manning was basically walking out to the bloke who hit it. 3
Midfield_General Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Turkish said: the concern is Ramsdale no one seems to be interested we really can’t be having him hanging around on a big wage Personally I'd be straight on the phone to Spurs. They've got all that money they're desperate to throw around and at the moment their keeper options are Vicario who has been proven appalling and Kinsky who is a raw kid. If they're serious about re-establishing themselves as top six side they need a 'proper' keeper, and given their shocking start they'll probably be doing more panic spending before Tuesday night. At the very least you'd think they might consider a loan. Also, if he went to Spurs he could link up with Matty Fernandes to form an unparalleled relegation specialist double act. Edited 6 hours ago by Midfield_General 2
Wade Garrett Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 13 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said: I wouldn't classify his deflection as a costly error , it could have gone anywhere! He gave the ball away earlier than that. Had a decent game though. 1
Wade Garrett Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Wasn't his fault at all. Manning was basically walking out to the bloke who hit it. He is good going forward but really winds me up when he defends. Never gets close enough to the winger or forward to block a cross or shot. Went mad at him when they scored yesterday. 2
East Kent Saint Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: He gave the ball away earlier than that. Had a decent game though. Quite, flew in signed up and started all in a few days , nothing like previous signings , then had a good match. 1
skintsaint Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Midfield_General said: Personally I'd be straight on the phone to Spurs. They've got all that money they're desperate to throw around and at the moment their keeper options are Vicario who has been proven appalling and Kinsky who is a raw kid. If they're serious about re-establishing themselves as top six side they need a 'proper' keeper, and given their shocking start they'll probably be doing more panic spending before Tuesday night. At the very least you'd think they'd consider a loan. Arsenal connection might ruin that one for him, especially if he started badly 😅 1
Midfield_General Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 10 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Arsenal connection might ruin that one for him, especially if he started badly 😅 Yeah I did think about that but is he really 'Arsenal' enough for it to make a difference? Born in Stoke and has played for eight clubs of which Arsenal are one. Only played there for two seasons and didn't really win anything with them (the charity shield doesn't count). Honestly don't know how rabid it is these days given that players like Campbell, Bentley, Gallas, Adebayor etc have all played for both. You could be right though.
Badger Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, Midfield_General said: Yeah I did think about that but is he really 'Arsenal' enough for it to make a difference? Born in Stoke and has played for eight clubs of which Arsenal are one. Only played there for two seasons and didn't really win anything with them (the charity shield doesn't count). Honestly don't know how rabid it is these days given that players like Campbell, Bentley, Gallas, Adebayor etc have all played for both. You could be right though. Think a Spurs fan attacked him at one of their matches a few seasons agp. 2
hypochondriac Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, Turkish said: Solly March you’d think would replace Edozie. Weird how every window seems to be loads of links but he never leaves. He needs new start. For us March, Fellows, Matsuki and Scienza are 4 good wingers Downs and Sugawara both meant to have offers on the table so hopefully they’ll go. the concern is Ramsdale no one seems to be interested we really can’t be having him hanging around on a big wage He wouldn't have to do much to be more effective than Edozie. He's like he's been in suspended animation from when he was 19. Just hasn't moved on at all. 4 1
Appy Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 18 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: He wouldn't have to do much to be more effective than Edozie. He's like he's been in suspended animation from when he was 19. Just hasn't moved on at all. He hit some form for a bit under Martin in 23/24 until that Jack Stacey challenge on him, but other than that he’s been pretty useless. 1
macca155 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago As others have mentioned Ramsdale could end up being a problem. Nobody wants to buy him, like a 2nd hand car too many previous owners, and a Jonah to boot No doubt it will be a late loan, but if not he needs to compete with Perez. Very expensive problem to have, almost certainly put pay to a 2nd striker. We all want the squad improved but I reckon it's all about getting rid of players now.
sockeye Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 20 minutes ago, macca155 said: As others have mentioned Ramsdale could end up being a problem. Nobody wants to buy him, like a 2nd hand car too many previous owners, and a Jonah to boot No doubt it will be a late loan, but if not he needs to compete with Perez. Very expensive problem to have, almost certainly put pay to a 2nd striker. We all want the squad improved but I reckon it's all about getting rid of players now. can we put him in as CB ahead of Stephens?
East Kent Saint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 27 minutes ago, macca155 said: As others have mentioned Ramsdale could end up being a problem. Nobody wants to buy him, like a 2nd hand car too many previous owners, and a Jonah to boot No doubt it will be a late loan, but if not he needs to compete with Perez. Very expensive problem to have, almost certainly put pay to a 2nd striker. We all want the squad improved but I reckon it's all about getting rid of players now. I'm pretty sure he would be snapped up before the window closes even as 3rd choice at a Prem club !
Football Special Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, hypochondriac said: I think it's clear that we are only letting archer go if we are getting another striker in. I think we do need another, bound to be a spell when Larin is out at some point, plus he will be off in North America playing for Canada during international breaks , worries me he'll be playing against USA on 7th Oct a few days before we play the Skates
BarberSaint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 14 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said: I'm pretty sure he would be snapped up before the window closes even as 3rd choice at a Prem club ! Well: 1/ Why hasn't he by now then? 2/ Wages 3/ Would he go? There is absolutely nothing to support your opinion. 1
CB Fry Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 21 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said: I'm pretty sure he would be snapped up before the window closes even as 3rd choice at a Prem club ! He's not going to join a Prem club to be 3rd choice. And he's been available since May and it's now August 30th. He hasn't been "snapped up". He will go somewhere and probably before the window shuts. But its fair to say suitors are not queuing round the block for him. Edited 5 hours ago by CB Fry 1 1
Badger Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago The biggest question is probably whether Falchener wants the move. As we've found out with Ratkov. 2
goodymatt Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Badger said: The biggest question is probably whether Falchener wants the move. As we've found out with Ratkov. With Ratkov it’s been clear all along he would need persuading and that it seemed unlikely. This guy has been linked with a move to the champ this summer and Viking are selling another one of their players to WHU. You’d hope with a pending THB sale that we wouldn’t be trying to sign players that aren’t interested in joining, that would leave us empty handed.
East Kent Saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 51 minutes ago, BarberSaint said: Well: 1/ Why hasn't he by now then? 2/ Wages 3/ Would he go? There is absolutely nothing to support your opinion. True but I think he would get a move , just my opinion which may be wrong 😄
trousers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Something something hovercraft, something something eels...? 8
O_Lord_Marian Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Decent fee, and if they get Falchener over the line as a replacement, don't hate this at all. 1
Matthew Le God Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, trousers said: Something something hovercraft, something something eels...? Have you lost your Hungarian phrase book?
SuperSAINT Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Hopper said: Hopefully it frees up a little more capital for any 'Luxury' signings before the close of the window ala Scienza last year. “Market opportunity” as the hipsters call it. 1
Harry_SFC Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) So now THB has gone, Archer/Downs both likely to leave along with Ramsdale, surely we will see a CB, CF and a GK arrive by Wednesday. Edited 4 hours ago by Harry_SFC
hypochondriac Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Hopper said: THB was always going to be the one to leave this window. He was our biggest asset, regardless of Shea going earlier. JWP for less than a mill is a steal and If we can get Falchner in for less than £10M then the team have done a cracking job of min/maxing their fees. Hopefully it frees up a little more capital for any 'Luxury' signings before the close of the window ala Scienza last year. Either that or gives us more freedom to go big after promotion...
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