Adam Blackmore

[washsaint]

While I quite like Blackmore his hysterical, and OTT, reaction to Spygate will likely cost him any access or goodwill to the club.

His reaction was astoundingly bad - calling it the darkest day in the clubs history (conveniently forgetting about Higgins).

Reckon he has really shot his bolt on this one - the fact he did not get the interview with SOlak is very telling.

Totally hysterical, pearl clutching reaction to what was a very minor infraction with a totally reprehensible and OTT reaction from the EFL and Boro which he was strangely silent on.

[Charlie Wayman]

5 minutes ago, washsaint said:

Totally hysterical, pearl clutching reaction to what was a very minor infraction with a totally reprehensible and OTT reaction 

The same might be said about your post!

Edited 6 hours ago by Charlie Wayman

[Nordic Saint]

5 minutes ago, washsaint said:

While I quite like Blackmore his hysterical, and OTT, reaction to Spygate will likely cost him any access or goodwill to the club.

His reaction was astoundingly bad - calling it the darkest day in the clubs history (conveniently forgetting about Higgins).

Reckon he has really shot his bolt on this one - the fact he did not get the interview with SOlak is very telling.

Totally hysterical, pearl clutching reaction to what was a very minor infraction with a totally reprehensible and OTT reaction from the EFL and Boro which he was strangely silent on.

I remember driving to the 2nd leg of the play-off semi-final and making the mistake of switching on BBC Radio Solent, expecting a positive pre-match build-up, only to hear Adam Blackmore talking, pretty much as you describe. Tw@t. I switched him off after less than a minute and really don't want to hear him ever again.

[Miltonaggro]

1 hour ago, washsaint said:

While I quite like Blackmore his hysterical, and OTT, reaction to Spygate will likely cost him any access or goodwill to the club.

His reaction was astoundingly bad - calling it the darkest day in the clubs history (conveniently forgetting about Higgins).

Reckon he has really shot his bolt on this one - the fact he did not get the interview with SOlak is very telling.

Totally hysterical, pearl clutching reaction to what was a very minor infraction with a totally reprehensible and OTT reaction from the EFL and Boro which he was strangely silent on.

Brownmore will be able to brown no more...

[Steeleye Saint]

While the Higgins scandal was abhorrent it didn't touch as many lives as this has. The fans and the players have been badly let down. I was angry, disappointed and shocked in equal measure when it all came out and it has put a stain on Saints' reputation in the football world which will take a long time to recover from. 

 

[stevematthews635]

42 minutes ago, Steeleye Saint said:

While the Higgins scandal was abhorrent it didn't touch as many lives as this has. The fans and the players have been badly let down. I was angry, disappointed and shocked in equal measure when it all came out and it has put a stain on Saints' reputation in the football world which will take a long time to recover from. 

 

Are you for real.  Didn't touch as many lives?

What happened was pedophilia and you think watching training sessions was worse?

[DrSuess1979]

46 minutes ago, Steeleye Saint said:

While the Higgins scandal was abhorrent it didn't touch as many lives as this has. The fans and the players have been badly let down. I was angry, disappointed and shocked in equal measure when it all came out and it has put a stain on Saints' reputation in the football world which will take a long time to recover from. 

 

You can’t be serious

The only reason spygate has been blown out of proportion is because of twats like Gibbo and his media puppets. 

[jrobsbigshorts]

I expected it of talksport etc but what got me was that Blackmore , Total Saints Podcast , Football Martin and alot of people on here went big on the whole we've been betrayed by the club , we need wholesale change narrative that Gibson has managed to create , I thought the clubs response yesterday and today of sorry not sorry, we've been stitched up and we'll do everything to keep Tonda was spot on 

[StrangelyBrown]

3 minutes ago, jrobsbigshorts said:

I expected it of talksport etc but what got me was that Blackmore , Total Saints Podcast , Football Martin and alot of people on here went big on the whole we've been betrayed by the club , we need wholesale change narrative that Gibson has managed to create , I thought the clubs response yesterday and today of sorry not sorry, we've been stitched up and we'll do everything to keep Tonda was spot on 

I don't know why anyone pays any attention to football Martin - he comes across as a clueless pillock

[tdmickey3]

Just now, StrangelyBrown said:

I don't know why anyone pays any attention to football Martin - he comes across as a clueless pillock

He`s just another attention seeker.

 

[Osvaldorama]

All of Boro’s journalists went mental and helped their club. 
 

All of our journalists went mental… and also helped Boro. 
 

Club needs to be a lot better at PR. Naive. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

8 minutes ago, jrobsbigshorts said:

I expected it of talksport etc but what got me was that Blackmore , Total Saints Podcast , Football Martin and alot of people on here went big on the whole we've been betrayed by the club , we need wholesale change narrative that Gibson has managed to create , I thought the clubs response yesterday and today of sorry not sorry, we've been stitched up and we'll do everything to keep Tonda was spot on 

None of the above were wrong.

🤷🏻‍♂️

The difficulty is moving forward how does the club unite fans, staff and the rest.

That will take time.

[OzzySaint]

Listened to Adam and Jo BBC podcast (we can get it even in Australia!!) - don't agree with much other than whoever responded initially made it easier for EFL to throw Saints out.

Re sacking Tonda and protecting what Saints stand for, well they are definitely out of touch. Most fans are looking at next season and saying what's our best chance of promotions and siding with players and management in choosing keep Tonda (Dragan's BBC /Echo interview). As Dragan said how can you be tried twice for same crime - why punish Saints twice with expulsion then managerial ban?

You can say all you like about what does the club stands for and why we should apologise and how we should act with dignity but as they point out this is big business. No global brand apologises for trying to meet their shareholders expectations - look at Google, Meta BP and many others - they just carry on doing what their doing and see out the bad publicity. The issue is not with Tonda and a bad decision, the issue is about 2 things - lack of governance / oversight in enabling spy gate to happen without identifying to Tonda the regulations prohibiting it and secondly about getting caught if you knew you were doing wrong. If you did know it was against the regulations then why not use a drone? 

I enjoy the live commentary from Jo and Adam but get off your moral high horse and smell the roses - we are Saints compared to many other unpunished sinners.

[hypochondriac]

49 minutes ago, jrobsbigshorts said:

I expected it of talksport etc but what got me was that Blackmore , Total Saints Podcast , Football Martin and alot of people on here went big on the whole we've been betrayed by the club , we need wholesale change narrative that Gibson has managed to create , I thought the clubs response yesterday and today of sorry not sorry, we've been stitched up and we'll do everything to keep Tonda was spot on 

Football Martin has been funny roaring out of the gate saying he needs sacking now doing a reverse ferret. I suppose lots of fans followed a similar trajectory but media personalities should always try to rise above it and be a touch more balanced than the average reactionary fan.

[hypochondriac]

42 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

All of Boro’s journalists went mental and helped their club. 
 

All of our journalists went mental… and also helped Boro. 
 

Club needs to be a lot better at PR. Naive. 

Not sure it helps that the main two reporters (Alfie and Adam.) Don't actually support the club. That can be an advantage at times of course.

[Willo of Whiteley]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Football Martin has been funny roaring out of the gate saying he needs sacking now doing a reverse ferret. I suppose lots of fans followed a similar trajectory but media personalities should always try to rise above it and be a touch more balanced than the average reactionary fan.

Only started listening recently. He is very reactionary.

All that said, I think all of us felt this way three weeks ago. If you wanted him to stay you were certainly in the minority.

The tide has turned now and actually certain journos/outlets have been found out for their agendas.

I think above everything else, today we got clarity. This is the way we’re going, get on board or get off.

I think there is still more to come out of this saga.

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Willo of Whiteley said:

Only started listening recently. He is very reactionary.

All that said, I think all of us felt this way three weeks ago. If you wanted him to stay you were certainly in the minority.

The tide has turned now and actually certain journos/outlets have been found out for their agendas.

I think above everything else, today we got clarity. This is the way we’re going, get on board or get off.

I think there is still more to come out of this saga.

In the initial aftermath definitely but I certainly didn't feel as strongly as he did a few days in. I hope that all of them get on board with a bit of the siege mentality. If the FA try to ban him I hope we go at them ful throttle with appeals and all manner of legal wranglings so they regret trying.

[Midfield_General]

51 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

The difficulty is moving forward how does the club unite fans, staff and the rest.

That will take time.

Will it though? 

From the reaction on here, it seems the overwhelming majority have already pretty much already forgiven and forgotten and can't wait to hand over their money for their season tickets. 

This place isn't 100% representative of the whole fanbase, but I think it's a pretty decent barometer. And on here the turnaround in sentiment in the last week or so has been remarkable. 

The Tonda thread is probably 90% supportive now. 

[EssEffCee]

1 hour ago, Steeleye Saint said:

While the Higgins scandal was abhorrent it didn't touch as many lives as this has. The fans and the players have been badly let down. I was angry, disappointed and shocked in equal measure when it all came out and it has put a stain on Saints' reputation in the football world which will take a long time to recover from. 

 

FFS. This might be the worst post I've ever seen on here.

This touched more lives because people couldn't attend a football match? Yeah that's much worse than a smaller number of children being sexually abused you utter dinlo.

[hypochondriac]

Just now, EssEffCee said:

FFS. This might be the worst post I've ever seen on here.

This touched more lives because people couldn't attend a football match? Yeah that's much worse than a smaller number of children being sexually abused you utter dinlo.

Tbf I think he probably means that this has affected a greater number of people. Badly worded though to be fair 

[Toussaint]

I really like Adam, always enjoy the podcasts. I took a position from the start that it was a massive overaction, which resulted in us being massively over punished for a minor transgression. Others clutched pearls and signalled their virtue to anyone who would listen. Others were genuinely shocked and horrified (better people than me), but I'd have to say those people must have lead very protected lives.

There are some posters I really like, but took the completely opposite position to me, there are others that changed position as the dust settled. I decided to just move on a start again with everyone starting with a clean sheet. I agree Blackmore should have stayed a bit more objective in his position, but he's an emotional man and that is part of his appeal.

I'd have to compliment Steve Grant ,of the TSP, for keeping balance and perspective throughout.

Edited 2 hours ago by Toussaint

[beatlesaint]

2 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I'd have to compliment Steve Grant ,of the TSP, for keeping balance and perspective throughout.

I agree, out of all the fans and local media who have had their say I found TSP to be the best and certainly Steve was the most balanced. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 hours ago, Steeleye Saint said:

While the Higgins scandal was abhorrent it didn't touch as many lives as this has. The fans and the players have been badly let down. I was angry, disappointed and shocked in equal measure when it all came out and it has put a stain on Saints' reputation in the football world which will take a long time to recover from. 

 

When this happened, I posted that if I still supported a club after the Higgins scandal, Spygate wasn't going to change a thing.

You might want to take a step back, and have a think about that post, and why you prioritised them in that order.

[Badger]

1 hour ago, StrangelyBrown said:

I don't know why anyone pays any attention to football Martin - he comes across as a clueless pillock

Bit unfair. I think he provides a good summary of talking points which is useful for us exiles to catch up on.
 

I don’t have to agree with all the views he presents to appreciate what he’s trying to do. 

Yes, there’s inevitably some ‘look at me..’ involved, he wouldn’t do it otherwise but comes across as inoffensive and not a bellend like some vloggers, podcasters,  or whatever they call themselves. 

[Doctoroncall]

9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Tbf I think he probably means that this has affected a greater number of people. Badly worded though to be fair 

The two are just not comparable!

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, Doctoroncall said:

The two are just not comparable!

Not on the severity no. Weird thing to talk about generally though

[Verbal]

2 hours ago, Steeleye Saint said:

While the Higgins scandal was abhorrent it didn't touch as many lives as this has. The fans and the players have been badly let down. I was angry, disappointed and shocked in equal measure when it all came out and it has put a stain on Saints' reputation in the football world which will take a long time to recover from. 

 

Finally, someone on saintsweb has given us a true scale by which to measure Tonda's offence: worse than pedophilia.  

[Winnersaint]

8 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I'd have to compliment Steve Grant ,of the TSP, for keeping balance and perspective throughout.

Also Fitzhugh Fella on here and particularly on X in the last few days

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, Winnersaint said:

Also Fitzhugh Fella on here and particularly on X in the last few days

Tbf it does help if you've personally spoken to the chief executive.

[Doctoroncall]

1 minute ago, Badger said:

Bit unfair. I think he provides a good summary of talking points which is useful for us exiles to catch up on.
 

I don’t have to agree with all the views he presents to appreciate what he’s trying to do. 

Yes, there’s inevitably some ‘look at me..’ involved, he wouldn’t do it otherwise but comes across as inoffensive and not a bellend like some vloggers, podcasters,  or whatever they call themselves. 

He’s ok, easier to agree with the narrative than fight against it when it came out, maybe he didn’t seem able or want to create a defence for the club, but was happy to appear on a few podcasts about it. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

When I reflect on what Blackmore or any other journalist says, the first question I have is…did they report news or did they speculate or did they provide a personal opinion? IMO their role is to deliver the first two and NEVER provide a personal opinion. Yes, utilise co-hosts from the sport to provide an insight into the games/business, but even then it should be made clear it’s a personal opinion of the guest(s).

Use of contentious phrases such as he’s used in this case (in public broadcasts) are completely unacceptable and potentially libellous IMO, especially when facts are not fully known. I would not be surprised atall if Solak is spitting feathers and not inclined to give him media time in the future.

Edited 2 hours ago by Saint Fan CaM

[Maggie May]

2 hours ago, Steeleye Saint said:

While the Higgins scandal was abhorrent it didn't touch as many lives as this has. The fans and the players have been badly let down. I was angry, disappointed and shocked in equal measure when it all came out and it has put a stain on Saints' reputation in the football world which will take a long time to recover from. 

 

Wow. Absolutely unhinged post. 

[whelk]

28 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Will it though? 

From the reaction on here, it seems the overwhelming majority have already pretty much already forgiven and forgotten and can't wait to hand over their money for their season tickets. 

This place isn't 100% representative of the whole fanbase, but I think it's a pretty decent barometer. And on here the turnaround in sentiment in the last week or so has been remarkable. 

The Tonda thread is probably 90% supportive now. 

Absolutely - anyone who doesn’t support Tonda is too meek for football andcan just fuck off. All these earnest sorts who make podcasts are not even close to how my Saints supporting mates view it all.

[RedArmy]

49 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Football Martin has been funny roaring out of the gate saying he needs sacking now doing a reverse ferret. I suppose lots of fans followed a similar trajectory but media personalities should always try to rise above it and be a touch more balanced than the average reactionary fan.

I don’t know why anyone watches or listens to these social media weirdos. 

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

I don’t know why anyone watches or listens to these social media weirdos. 

It's pretty harmless all things considered. Doesn't seem like a bad bloke.

[whelk]

23 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

I don’t know why anyone watches or listens to these social media weirdos. 

I have no idea why people want Joe publics opinion on anything. Do not see the appeal in seeking out no-marks opinions, and worse still listening to those that are keen to volunteer it

Edited 2 hours ago by whelk

[Scully]

I've long been a big fan of Adam Blackmore and enjoyed his commentary but I do think he has let himself down a bit and massively overreacted to this whole episode. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Scully

[OldNick]

Glen de la Cour has been giving it as well, didnt think twice of wearing a spys outfit when it broke. The only 2 people who have fought our corner are Granty, and Nick Illingsworth IMO

[Oldandtired]

54 minutes ago, whelk said:

I have no idea why people want Joe publics opinion on anything. Do not see the appeal in seeking out no-marks opinions, and worse still listening to those that are keen to volunteer it

Exactly. Opinions are like butt holes, we all have one and just like butt holes most of them stink.

edit... except for mine.

Edited 1 hour ago by Oldandtired

[RedArmy]

51 minutes ago, whelk said:

I have no idea why people want Joe publics opinion on anything. Do not see the appeal in seeking out no-marks opinions, and worse still listening to those that are keen to volunteer it

The only one worth listening to is Steve Grant and it’s a shame he doesn’t post more on here but i imagine it’s not good for business to disagree with and tell your paying customers they don’t know what they’re talking about. 
 

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

I don’t get what the benefit is in calling out various people on podcasts and media outlets for their opinions on the whole saga.

Absolute pathetic now.

Also worth bearing in mind that some of these thoughts were at a different time when it suggested that we were highly in the shit, so rightfully, people would have those opinions.

🤷🏻‍♂️

Some people on here love a narrative, and if it doesn’t fit then they twist it and make it fit.
See Henry Winter for example (Bielsa and Eckert).

[Saint86]

5 hours ago, washsaint said:

While I quite like Blackmore his hysterical, and OTT, reaction to Spygate will likely cost him any access or goodwill to the club.

His reaction was astoundingly bad - calling it the darkest day in the clubs history (conveniently forgetting about Higgins).

Reckon he has really shot his bolt on this one - the fact he did not get the interview with SOlak is very telling.

Totally hysterical, pearl clutching reaction to what was a very minor infraction with a totally reprehensible and OTT reaction from the EFL and Boro which he was strangely silent on.

I like him, he's very enthusiastic, he's a nice guy, but he's also shown a start lack of independent critical thinking. Let alone the basics of "innocent until proven guilty" re defending the club and fans he makes his living from.

Its possible to be both a fan of the club and hold the club to account, but fundamentally he isn't a saints fan, its shown these past couple of weeks, and he's failed the club/fans re spygate imo.

He swallowed the media hype and started acting like this was the crime of the century frankly, called the club morally repugnant all over social media and podcasts etc, and acted like Eckert had gone out and shot the pope or something. He completely lost perspective, and rather than do his part as a journalist (dig into facts/dates) or at least try to temper the media storm, he essentially went along with the herd / mob mentality and just started pouring gasoline on the fire.

Back in the real world, its fundamentally the same offence as Bielsa (who kept his job and won a fair play award), the club/fans/players/staff have collectively been egregiously punished (I.e., more than enough). And to date, there is still no evidence of Eckert bullying staff... despite Blackmore being incredibly negative about Eckert and basically saying he had to go / position was untenable etc. Maybe he was delirious with the whole Villa thing and took his eye of the ball, but his job relates to Southampton Football club and covering it for the fans. Throughout this time he's failed on journalistic integrity, and failed at impartially protecting the club and fans that deliver him his livelihood.

Should Blackmore acknowledge his erroneous handling of the whole affair? Everyone else is apologising and Blackmore has fundamentally jumped on the bandwagon - I do think he's damage his position with the club and with a portion of the fanbase.

Edited 47 minutes ago by Saint86

[obelisk]

5 hours ago, washsaint said:

While I quite like Blackmore his hysterical, and OTT, reaction to Spygate will likely cost him any access or goodwill to the club.

His reaction was astoundingly bad - calling it the darkest day in the clubs history (conveniently forgetting about Higgins).

Reckon he has really shot his bolt on this one - the fact he did not get the interview with SOlak is very telling.

Totally hysterical, pearl clutching reaction to what was a very minor infraction with a totally reprehensible and OTT reaction from the EFL and Boro which he was strangely silent on.

Totally agree. I like his analysis and support on the whole along with the "going home" thing but his reaction to what now appears to be an over-the-top media conspiracy on pretty much nothing does him no favours at all.

[obelisk]

4 hours ago, Steeleye Saint said:

While the Higgins scandal was abhorrent it didn't touch as many lives as this has. The fans and the players have been badly let down. I was angry, disappointed and shocked in equal measure when it all came out and it has put a stain on Saints' reputation in the football world which will take a long time to recover from. 

 

Get a grip.

[SaintsLoyal]

Nothing wrong with anything Adam Blackmore has said and clearly an external PR consultant set up the Dan Roan chat as they wanted national coverage. 

 

 

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, Verbal said:

Finally, someone on saintsweb has given us a true scale by which to measure Tonda's offence: worse than pedophilia.  

In which case perhaps Soggy was wrong (imagine!) and it actually was 'crime of the century'.

[egg]

4 hours ago, Steeleye Saint said:

While the Higgins scandal was abhorrent it didn't touch as many lives as this has. The fans and the players have been badly let down. I was angry, disappointed and shocked in equal measure when it all came out and it has put a stain on Saints' reputation in the football world which will take a long time to recover from. 

 

That's amongst the most stupid things I've ever seen on this forum, and there's a lot of competition. I know a Higgins victim, and that fella will never recover. I'm contrast, I'm already over us missing out on a football match and a decent chance of relegation from the PL next season. 

[Zorba]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

I have no idea why people want Joe publics opinion on anything. Do not see the appeal in seeking out no-marks opinions, and worse still listening to those that are keen to volunteer it

I liked this post.. and then realised exactly what I was doing!?

[Football Special]

3 hours ago, jrobsbigshorts said:

I expected it of talksport etc but what got me was that Blackmore , Total Saints Podcast , Football Martin and alot of people on here went big on the whole we've been betrayed by the club , we need wholesale change narrative that Gibson has managed to create , I thought the clubs response yesterday and today of sorry not sorry, we've been stitched up and we'll do everything to keep Tonda was spot on 

Yeah a lot of people digested far too much of the media hysteria and let it go to their heads. 

Adam Blackbore has been an annoying plonker for a while though, i count myself lucky going to games I dont have to listen to his commentary 

[Football Special]

44 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

The only one worth listening to is Steve Grant and it’s a shame he doesn’t post more on here but i imagine it’s not good for business to disagree with and tell your paying customers they don’t know what they’re talking about. 
 

 

Yep Stevie G is a top bloke who actually goes regularly home and away and talks with plenty of other fans so I feel he often has a good grasp of what the actual match going fan thinks rather than the keyboard warrior attention seekers. 

(If you read this Steve can I have a free SaintsWeb membership next season?)