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Divin Mubama - Official: Signs on Loan

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The Kraken

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He may even get thrown in against Watford. The club are saying that Larin is still nursing himself back to fitness and they’ll only make a decision later in the week as to whether he can start.

The idea of going with Archer or BBD as starting lone striker was starting to be a concern.

Just hope this lad can step up. Def need some goals from him, but our system also needs him to be decent at hold up play too and that bit is a definite unknown for me at this point.

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SNSUN

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48 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

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Reads like it might be a straight loan?

Shame if so, because if he's a success it would be nice for us to have first option when Mubama will probably have limited chances there when Erling is around. 

On the flip side, if he does have a successful season, we'll have benefitted anyway. 

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hypochondriac

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17 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

Shame if so, because if he's a success it would be nice for us to have first option when Mubama will probably have limited chances there when Erling is around. 

On the flip side, if he does have a successful season, we'll have benefitted anyway. 

Would be a nice problem to have if we did manage to make it to the prem.

Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd

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Somewhat underwhelmed by this. It doesn't really hit as a signing of intent. It certainly doesn't feel like a signing that says "we want to win this league". 

I genuinely hope he scores 20+ goals and is a massive success but I can't help but feel that he'll be in and out of the first team and won't be a regular starter. 

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AlexLaw76

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4 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

Somewhat underwhelmed by this. It doesn't really hit as a signing of intent. It certainly doesn't feel like a signing that says "we want to win this league". 

I genuinely hope he scores 20+ goals and is a massive success but I can't help but feel that he'll be in and out of the first team and won't be a regular starter. 

interesting how he gets on compared to our top 2 alternatives (Stewart and the lad at Boro), at least in terms of games/goals.

Matthew Le God

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8 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

Somewhat underwhelmed by this. It doesn't really hit as a signing of intent. It certainly doesn't feel like a signing that says "we want to win this league". 

I genuinely hope he scores 20+ goals and is a massive success but I can't help but feel that he'll be in and out of the first team and won't be a regular starter. 

We play a system with only one striker. Only one of our strikers can be the regular starter and that'll be Larin. What we need are backups to Larin who pose a threat. Downs and Archer so far don't look like they will be, so we need someone else.

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hypochondriac

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7 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

Somewhat underwhelmed by this. It doesn't really hit as a signing of intent. It certainly doesn't feel like a signing that says "we want to win this league". 

I genuinely hope he scores 20+ goals and is a massive success but I can't help but feel that he'll be in and out of the first team and won't be a regular starter. 

I hope he isn't a starter because it will mean Larin is fit and performing well. He's not the signing I wanted but it doesn't mean it won't work. Larin was a revelation for example.

AlexLaw76

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

I hope he isn't a starter because it will mean Larin is fit and performing well. He's not the signing I wanted but it doesn't mean it won't work. Larin was a revelation for example.

he was well rotated with Stewart though, and doing so did not see a drop in quality.

hypochondriac

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3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

he was well rotated with Stewart though, and doing so did not see a drop in quality.

I'm hoping that Larin is fitter and therefore we won't need as much rotation. I agree though, on the face of it it does make us weaker.

The Kraken

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The Stewart/Larin rotation is arguably what made both of them look sharp and fresh. The level of competition between the two really helped.

Big Cyle is 31 now. We’ll see, but it’s likely his minutes will need to be managed over a 46 game league season. If we’ve only got a ‘backup offering a threat’ rather than the genuine level of competition we had with Stewart, then we’re down some on last season in the striking options.

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saintant

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21 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I hope he isn't a starter because it will mean Larin is fit and performing well. He's not the signing I wanted but it doesn't mean it won't work. Larin was a revelation for example.

Think he'll get plenty of minutes off the bench because Tonda tends to give the striker 60-70 minutes max. I'd keep Archer as an option mainly from the left as cover for Leo because he's shown he can do that job and presents a goal threat plus some decent pace.

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Badger

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2 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Welcome aboard. Play like you did against us last season and you’ll be good for us.

I had no recollection of his performance against us last year. For me their stand out player - apart from the GK - was the winger Thomas.

On looking up the match I see he was sent off for two yellow cards. The second described on the Saints website as for simulation. Don’t think that’s the sort of performance we need. 

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hypochondriac

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10 minutes ago, saintant said:

Think he'll get plenty of minutes off the bench because Tonda tends to give the striker 60-70 minutes max. I'd keep Archer as an option mainly from the left as cover for Leo because he's shown he can do that job and presents a goal threat plus some decent pace.

Agreed. Plus he can play up front if required. Combined with Dobbin that may be enough cover.

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Fabrice29

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1 hour ago, SNSUN said:

Shame if so, because if he's a success it would be nice for us to have first option when Mubama will probably have limited chances there when Erling is around. 

On the flip side, if he does have a successful season, we'll have benefitted anyway. 

I actually think the opposite. Shows how highly City rate him. He’s not seen as an easy profit and a trading player for them just yet.

43 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

Somewhat underwhelmed by this. It doesn't really hit as a signing of intent. It certainly doesn't feel like a signing that says "we want to win this league". 

I genuinely hope he scores 20+ goals and is a massive success but I can't help but feel that he'll be in and out of the first team and won't be a regular starter. 

He’s probably the best young English striker around right now. Not sure why that isn’t intent and is underwhelming. Given you’re on here suggesting Ballard should have stayed then criticism of this signing is an incredible position to take.

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Saint Pete

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1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

We play a system with only one striker. Only one of our strikers can be the regular starter and that'll be Larin. What we need are backups to Larin who pose a threat. Downs and Archer so far don't look like they will be, so we need someone else.

I disagree. What we had in 2nd half of last season was 2 more or less equal level strikers in Larin and Stewart and that worked incredibly well. Both provided physicality and a focal point for the team and were strong players at this level, which meant we could interchange them, keeping them fresh and fit and helping us maintain our intensity up front through the entire 90+ minutes of matches. I don't think either could be considered our "no.1 regular starter" and that was fine and actually an advantage for the team.

Larin is 31 years old and the lone striker role is tough physically over a long hard season so I think we still need someone on the same kind of level that can interchange and keep that intensity up for us like Stewart did, not just a backup for Larin. If we don't achieve that, the danger is we will move backwards from our form in 2nd half of last season. 

I don't know enough about this Man City lad to know if he can provide that for us, let's hope he can progress from his Stoke form last season. 

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Pilchards

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Yes we need another striker that can hold off a brick shithouse defender and bring others into play.

BBD’s first touch is like a ping pong ball.

Archer gets waved away like a fart in the wind.

 

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9 hours ago, Badger said:

I had no recollection of his performance against us last year. For me their stand out player - apart from the GK - was the winger Thomas.

On looking up the match I see he was sent off for two yellow cards. The second described on the Saints website as for simulation. Don’t think that’s the sort of performance we need. 

Ask THB if he’d rather play with or against him.

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UpweySaint

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I remember when we signed Larin being underwhelmed but I thought at least he added the type of physicality we needed. After seeing the difference when we were able to start with Stewart my hope was he worked well with those around him and contributed a few goals. My feelings around Mubama are much the same. He has physical presence and looks to have decent acceleration making him a handful for opponents and getting us up the pitch. I can see him creating space for others to play in. If he can manage a decent strike rate too it’s brilliant.
 

Adding the likes of Mubama and Dobbin also adds to our tactical flexibility. Plenty of games last season we were able to change and drag results from (post Still of course!) and it may be the same this year. With the squad as is we could arguably line up in a 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 5-3-2 all without having to shoehorn players. 

Saint86

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12 hours ago, SNSUN said:

Shame if so, because if he's a success it would be nice for us to have first option when Mubama will probably have limited chances there when Erling is around. 

Sets of a slight concern with me re some of the Stoke comments. He knew he wasn't staying there, and his effort dropped off. An uncommitted player is not something Saints can afford in the championship run in. Compare it to THB, who knew he was playing for a move should we get promoted. People can grumble about spending money to stand still, but i prefer players who have a bit of skin in the game.

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CSA96

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Not surprised by the lack of option. City seem to really believe in him, at least enough for him to have a really good season here and drive his price much higher in 12 months' time than it would be viewed right now

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Remember never to fall in love with a loan player, unless they're Peretz, Larin, Downes or THB. Hopefully this goes a similar way.

saintant

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2 minutes ago, egg said:

Nice.

Good bit of business is that. 

Yeah. Got a feeling this lad will do well for us. Think he'll get some minutes on Sunday.

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Football Special

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8 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

I like that he states good movement as his key attribute - if true he'll swap in and out with Larin very well.

And benefit from Azaz vision , nicely paired for his type of game. Hope he can pick up a bit from his Championship experience last season , hopefully more reliable fitness wise than Loch Ness Drogba , we'll need that with so many games to play 

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saintant

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15 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

I like that he states good movement as his key attribute - if true he'll swap in and out with Larin very well.

Yeah, with Leo and Fellows on the wings and Azaz threading inviting passes into dangerous areas his movement, speed and power could see him notching a few goals.

Midfield_General

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Quite excited by this signing. Looks to have all the attributes, been scoring in pre-season, looks like he'll suit the way we play, should have a point to prove, and Man City rate him enough that they want him back. That'll do for me. Hope he gets some minutes on Sunday. 

(And it sounds from that interview like his name's pronounced 'divine', so he should fit in well as a Saint.) 

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trousers

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1 minute ago, Midfield_General said:

Quite excited by this signing. Looks to have all the attributes, been scoring in pre-season, looks like he'll suit the way we play, should have a point to prove, and Man City rate him enough that they want him back. That'll do for me. Hope he gets some minutes on Sunday. 

(And it sounds from that interview like his name's pronounced 'divine', so he should fit in well as a Saint.) 

I'm glad the interviewer made that intervention....

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