miserableoldgit Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Radio Solent are reporting this morning that they "understand" that Leon Crouch will be invited onto the Board when the Pinnacle take-over is confirmed. They said that this could be controversial PR-wise with fans due to the in-fighting that occured when he was preiously Chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Quite right, and so he should be there....IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 I've no problem with Crouch. Mistokes or no mistakes in the past, he stood up and acted when we needed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 i would prefer a clean sweep but would be happy to see leon involved after he bank rolled the club in our hour of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 June, 2009 I've no problem with Crouch. Mistokes or no mistakes in the past, he stood up and acted when we needed him. ....ermmm;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 no no no no a fresh start is needed from that of the last few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Personally, I would prefer a complete clean sweep at the Club, but if it was to be one of the "protagonists" of the last few years that remained, then I suppose Crouch would be the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Happy for Crouch to be there in a non-exec capacity. After all, he at least lifted a finger to keep the club going in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Depends - To move forward we need progressive and experienced heads that unite TBH, and therefore should be avoiding making boardroom positions available as 'rewards' for the positives of the past - in effect, it could be seen as 'buying a seat'. So alot depends on the role and what contribution he makes in future, not on the past record... Leon contributed to the April wage bill and has help financially in the past so there is no denying he is passionate about Saints and is a genuine fan, but he is not without ego or a 'history' and that history does contain commmercial errors IMHO - so alot depend on who else is there and who has the say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 see the anti-crouchers are not up yet, will not be long before the sh*t hits the fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 I have no problem with him being on the board. He put his hand in his pocket when the Football Club needed it, unlike that failed businessman from Gloucester who only ever took money out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Personally, I would prefer a complete clean sweep at the Club, but if it was to be one of the "protagonists" of the last few years that remained, then I suppose Crouch would be the one. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 ....ermmm;) Freudian....I just miss Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Hmmm, not sure about that. Much kudos for him putting his money where his mouth is (or at least leaking stories that say he has paid the wages, even though it's bull) and I do agree that he loves the club, but I really feel we need a completely new start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 I have no problem with him being on the board. He put his hand in his pocket when the Football Club needed it, unlike that failed businessman from Gloucester who only ever took money out. Like what he done in the 11th hour for the club but think we would be better off without any of the last bunch being involved. It will only take 1 sniping comment from crouch about him still being there when the others are gone and it could keep the old battles going on and on. Its a shame really cause what he did for the club at the end is near enough worth getting his picture in the board room instead of the train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Only to be expected Leons a top man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 see the anti-crouchers are not up yet' date=' will not be long before the sh*t hits the fan[/quote'] Thats the problem on here, the obsessive need for labelling folk... and its often the bigger cause of division than the actual OPINIONS that folk have. I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone who 'hates' CRouch, even those strong pro lowers - BUt most dont see this as a battle of CRouch v Lowe as some do, Its simply not the case that if you question Crouch you must be a 'devil worshiper' from that dark side. CRouch has his good and bad points the same as all the players in that game, its merely a question of opinion as to how much emphasis you place on these aspects. A new role role for Crouch on teh board should be dependent on the SKILLS and experience he can bring to a progressive and passionate board that will support a long term strategy for success - If his skills and experience fit to one of the openings, great, if not so hard feelings - but it should not be as a 'reward' for helping the club at need for which everyone should be grateful - we simply dont ahve room for sentiment if we are looking for a new dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South City Si Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Would prefer clean sweep, but cheaper than paying him back!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 i would prefer a clean sweep but would be happy to see leon involved after he bank rolled the club in our hour of need. Agree with that. The only proviso I'd like to see added is that it is a seat on the board and that he is given a bit of a "gagging order" not to make 'official comments'.No matter how well intended he is,Crouch does sometimes seem a loose canon and his comments regarding the clubs structure on 5live were definitely 'foot in mouth' time,or spoken without fully engaging his brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 June, 2009 see the anti-crouchers are not up yet' date=' will not be long before the sh*t hits the fan[/quote'] Yes. I can`t wait for 19C to come on and spit his usual shandy consisting of feathers and bile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 see the anti-crouchers are not up yet' date=' will not be long before the sh*t hits the fan[/quote'] and it will be no different when our new owner is revealed and our manager for next season.....the majority on here appear pleased just to have a club, a minoirty will moan whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 This may explain the lower than expected deposit paid by Pinnacle with the balance being made up in part from LC's prior donation. Whether this indicates a shortage of funds on the Pinnacle side or a need to have an "experienced" face on the board remains to be seen. Personally I see it as a reassuring sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommi Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 The chance of a new dawn, a clean sweep, starting afresh.......... please, I hope Leon returns to being a fan, nothing more, nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Leon Crouch loaned the club a lot of money to keep it going. He is also because of it a major creditor. I wouldn't be at all surprised that the group would want him on the board and that maybe that would lead to him writing off his loans as a quid pro quo. There is no doubt that he is a real supporter of the Saints and I for one would welcome his involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 If Crouch bought Pinnacle more time then they are indebted to him, why this has been released now when we don't even know the identity of the potential owner/money man is suprising, just hope this is not more pandering to the fans, MLT now Crouch, lets just hope we hear of appointments of those with the kind of knowledge and experience to fufill the 5 year plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 an effective board needs a range of diverse opinions, but they all must be pulling in the right direction. We at least know that Crouch is a fan and wants the best for the club so that is a good start. Lets hope the other members feel the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Division South Days Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 (edited) How many will refuse to to go to matches if he's on the board? Not a lot I suspect. Would rather there was a complete sweep but like most others just happy we've probably still got a club. If the new powers want LC involved, for whatever reason, I suspect the majority of supporters will not be too bothered. Edited 8 June, 2009 by Third Division South Days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Well if the new owner wants Crouch on the board then thats up to him. Nothing wrong with Crouch at the end of the day as we would still be in the Championship if he was around last season. As for it being 'controversial' i do not see why. Whats it got to do with Radio Solent anyway stirring it up ? If pinnacle and new owner want him in then so be it. I would also say that about Lawrie Mac who again might well get on the board. Who gives a toss about a 'handful' of fans who whinge about everything 24/7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 How many will refuse to to go to matches if he's on tthe board? Not a lot I suspect. Would rather there was a complete sweep but like must others just happy we've probably still got a club. If the new powers want LC involved, for whatever reason, I suspect the majority of supporters will not be too bothered. sums up my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 If we have an individual as owner as seems to be the case then the board will be advisary and execute the wishes of the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 He deserves it after what he has done. No doubt some on here will throw their toys out the pram. Yes there is no doubting that he has made a few clangers but I have always believed that his heart is in the right place as far as saints is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Would be very disappointed in this, really hoped we could totally start afresh. Negative pr move and without knocking him it is not as if he has years of running football club experience that they are keen to hold onto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 I have no problem with him being on the board. He put his hand in his pocket when the Football Club needed it, unlike that failed businessman from Gloucester who only ever took money out. true and maybe deserves some honorary role and recognition but would rather new board as he was part of the problems in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Personally, I would prefer a complete clean sweep at the Club, but if it was to be one of the "protagonists" of the last few years that remained, then I suppose Crouch would be the one. Ditto. It's all about having a united board with the same goals and vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 This may explain the lower than expected deposit paid by Pinnacle with the balance being made up in part from LC's prior donation. Whether this indicates a shortage of funds on the Pinnacle side or a need to have an "experienced" face on the board remains to be seen. Personally I see it as a reassuring sign. substantial is the disclosed amount - unless you know different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Didn't doubt for one minute that he'd wheedle his way back into the boardroom. Perhaps he is the new owner,the mega rich publicity shy mystery man being just another smoke screen.Wouldn't surprise me,anyway as long as there are no more Gorman and Dodds.... what does it matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Any appointment to the board should be based solely on individuals ability to deliver success and stability, not the size of ones wallet or indeed their passion as a fan. To date Leon’s record, as a fan has been exemplary his board record however can be questioned, whether it is a good thing or not will depend on the portfolio he is given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 This may explain the lower than expected deposit paid by Pinnacle with the balance being made up in part from LC's prior donation. Whether this indicates a shortage of funds on the Pinnacle side or a need to have an "experienced" face on the board remains to be seen. Personally I see it as a reassuring sign. What 'lower than expected deposit'? Where has the figure been released? In any event, my personal view is I'd rather no one from the past few years were there, but at least Crouch seemed to be making his mistakes from the best of motives. So if the new owner wants to give him a place on the board, so be it, but please just don't let him make any major decisions! K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 If we have an individual as owner as seems to be the case then the board will be advisary and execute the wishes of the owner. Good point. In principle I'm in the "clean sweep" camp but Leon Crouch working for a single 'hands off' owner would be OK IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Crouch in a hands-off role is ok by me. Not as if he'll be making any decisions. Passionate fan and financer of such pieces as the new Ted Bates statue. I'm ok with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 8 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Crouch in a hands-off role is ok by me. Not as if he'll be making any decisions. Passionate fan and financer of such pieces as the new Ted Bates statue. I'm ok with this. And the new MLT one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 (edited) The new owner will decide and if that is the decision then it will be so. Leon Crouch will bring a lot of diverse experience to the club. I am still hoping that there is a top class Chairman for business...Anthony Salz type... and MLT for Football matters. Crouch would also represent the fans as a super fan....Remember he is always there in our hour of need.....There are some that just run to the hills and never gave a damn..except for themselves and their own pockets. Edited 8 June, 2009 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestSaint Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 I am Ok with this. He is a fan of the club and arguably there may have been no club but for him. It will feel good to have a board that backs the football and not the politics that went on before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Depends - To move forward we need progressive and experienced heads that unite TBH' date=' and therefore should be avoiding making boardroom positions available as 'rewards' for the positives of the past - in effect, it could be seen as 'buying a seat'. So alot depends on the role and what contribution he makes in future, not on the past record... Leon contributed to the April wage bill and has help financially in the past so there is no denying he is passionate about Saints and is a genuine fan, but he is not without ego or a 'history' and that history does contain commmercial errors IMHO - so alot depend on who else is there and who has the say.[/quote'] Depends if you know the history of Lymington Precision Engineering though Frank and how he turned that into a world player..... The man knows what he is doing, has achieved more that RL and MW combined - just 'cause he's from the Forest and doesn't have PR and TV coaching...doesn't make him the wrong candidate... Good on you if true Leon, from one Lymo bod to another !! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGF Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 People view Mary Cobbetts Dad with high regard for helping the club when it was in financial trouble in the 30s do they hold Crouch with the same regard? I doubt it. I think Crouch has done a lot of good recently and I for one would have no problem with him on the board just as long as he is not the spokesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Would be very disappointed in this, really hoped we could totally start afresh. Negative pr move and without knocking him it is not as if he has years of running football club experience that they are keen to hold onto. Which shows how little you know about the man then Nick...sorry but Crouch has been involved in football (Lymington Town, AFC Lymington, Bashley) for about 25 years or more...hmmmm admittedly almost now our level..but I would trust Leon more than I could throw the other two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Not a problem for me , I think it is the least that Leon deserves. Pity he wasn't left in place along with Pearson last year and we would be in a whole lot better place now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 (edited) I do not have an axe to grind with Leon, he has put his hand in his pocket on a number of occasions to help the club. If he was given a non exec place on the board I would not have a problem with that but I would prefer a cleansweep. Edited 8 June, 2009 by Toomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Depends - To move forward we need progressive and experienced heads that unite TBH' date=' and therefore should be avoiding making boardroom positions available as 'rewards' for the positives of the past[/quote'] So presumaby by your argument you would not expect MLT to be on the Board I would be shocked if leon were not on the Board. But I would also be shocked if he was Chairman or anything like. We do need good SUCCESSFUL business people on the board, and leon is certainly that (as opposed to the other jokers we have seen involved in recent times). In the end it is up to the people who take over who they appoint, as long as neither Lowe nor Wilde are involved I will be completely OK with their choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 June, 2009 Share Posted 8 June, 2009 Of the past protagonists he is perhaps the least offensive to be there. If he keeps out of things and has lost his desire to be chairman and mix up with politics then fine. To have a new beginning then I would have expected to see none of the past directors being included. If the directors box is filled with the same old faces next season that will start the divisions again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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