david in sweden Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 going to sound very controversial, but I don't mean it to be .....but should fans choose a manager..and is the owner/board really forced to listen? After having only 2 managers in a 30 year period..we suddenly set an FL record for most managers in such a short time. So what have we learned..? First...coaches don't always make good managers.Chris Nicholl IMHO..an excellent former player / captain, willing to die for the cause...and he frequently did, was basically good. Everyone makes mistakes he made his share but I think he (CN) did well. Followed by a former coach Ian Branfoot (less said the better). Alan Ball former "everything " did OK before the lure of the bright lights in Manchester. Dave Merrington (probably best youth coach ever at SFC ..Wallaces, Shearer, MLT etc) but failed miserably only just avoiding relegation. Dave Jones situation was " a bit special " and then came Hoddle. No such success record either but..we did a bit better. Stuart Gray, a good coach, popular guy, but no manager. Gordon Strachan generally regarded as best since McMenemy was slated horribly by a section of the fan base when he came and mourned when he left, is now favourite to take over, but probably won't. Glenn Hoddle (so we hear) was ready to take the job back till he heard the fans protest and told RL - no thanks! Then Steve Wigley, another good youth coach.. but patently unsuitable. Sturrock (has managed to keep Plymouth in the CCC,) but was this time was victim of " player power ". Then came.. 'arry, and the curse of Fratton came with him..and afterwards Wise & Bassett...no better, and Burley was better but the Scotland job was too much to refuse. Gorman & Doddsy (no room for sentiment here) and then Nigel Pearson. We survived - really thought he had it, but Lowe sacks him for the " Dutch models " - no comment necessary...so the next question is : Do fans know better than the owner. will our former prejudices make selection harder? OK .. it won't be Keegan, looks unlikely to be Strachan, people are afraid it might be Shearer, and now terrified that it might be Tony Adams ! Surely the team must have confidence in the manager and it's not made easier when fans openly criticise the choice. I know all about democracy (I live in Sweden !), and we are all entitles to an opinion (hence polls), but Markus Liebherr has already put his money where no-one else was prepared to put it, and we must respect his choice - whoever it is. I'm concerned that a " hate campaign " on this board against individuals may create bad feelings within the club before a ball is even kicked and the team will take the blame. Perhaps, as in McMenemy's time we'll find that ..people like you when you win games - regardless of your past or who you worked for before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No, the fans should not choose the manager but it has to be someone that the majority will feel comfortable with and can instantly get behind and support. If it is someone who is disliked or not trusted, then they are fighting a loosing battle from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 And how many fans would have chosen WGS first time around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN MY DAY Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No, the fans chose not to re-appoint mr hoddle. Why else after our fresh start would we welcome another issue that will ultimately divide support for this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 I thought this was just forum fun...Hope no one is taking us seriously OR we could be in trouble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Yes definately. Just look how good Ebsfleet are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Yes definately. Just look how good Ebsfleet are doing. I understand they have some very good owners..:smt007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 The public as a whole is stupid, thus most fans are stupid (myself included no doubt ) and should not be involved. I trust Mr Liebherr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 We need some statistical precedents - are there any? I shall do some digging.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 We need some statistical precedents - are there any? Lost figures I saw showed 99% of fans are ..So that probably rules you and me our Ron:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Lost figures I saw showed 99% of fans are ..So that probably rules you and me our Ron:rolleyes: 'statistical precedents' Great band Got all their early stuff Saw them live once. Enduring image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No. Would you really want someone like Delldays having any influence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No. Would you really want someone like Delldays having any influence? To be fair he is The Captain in the Royal Navy and probably exerts a lot of influence over those poor little Wrens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No. Would you really want someone like Delldays having any influence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Completely and utterly NO WAY ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glkdcdes Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 going to sound very controversial, but I don't mean it to be .....but should fans choose a manager..and is the owner/board really forced to listen? After having only 2 managers in a 30 year period..we suddenly set an FL record for most managers in such a short time. So what have we learned..? First...coaches don't always make good managers.Chris Nicholl IMHO..an excellent former player / captain, willing to die for the cause...and he frequently did, was basically good. Everyone makes mistakes he made his share but I think he (CN) did well. Followed by a former coach Ian Branfoot (less said the better). Alan Ball former "everything " did OK before the lure of the bright lights in Manchester. Dave Merrington (probably best youth coach ever at SFC ..Wallaces, Shearer, MLT etc) but failed miserably only just avoiding relegation. Dave Jones situation was " a bit special " and then came Hoddle. No such success record either but..we did a bit better. Stuart Gray, a good coach, popular guy, but no manager. Gordon Strachan generally regarded as best since McMenemy was slated horribly by a section of the fan base when he came and mourned when he left, is now favourite to take over, but probably won't. Glenn Hoddle (so we hear) was ready to take the job back till he heard the fans protest and told RL - no thanks! Then Steve Wigley, another good youth coach.. but patently unsuitable. Sturrock (has managed to keep Plymouth in the CCC,) but was this time was victim of " player power ". Then came.. 'arry, and the curse of Fratton came with him..and afterwards Wise & Bassett...no better, and Burley was better but the Scotland job was too much to refuse. Gorman & Doddsy (no room for sentiment here) and then Nigel Pearson. We survived - really thought he had it, but Lowe sacks him for the " Dutch models " - no comment necessary...so the next question is : Do fans know better than the owner. will our former prejudices make selection harder? OK .. it won't be Keegan, looks unlikely to be Strachan, people are afraid it might be Shearer, and now terrified that it might be Tony Adams ! Surely the team must have confidence in the manager and it's not made easier when fans openly criticise the choice. I know all about democracy (I live in Sweden !), and we are all entitles to an opinion (hence polls), but Markus Liebherr has already put his money where no-one else was prepared to put it, and we must respect his choice - whoever it is. I'm concerned that a " hate campaign " on this board against individuals may create bad feelings within the club before a ball is even kicked and the team will take the blame. Perhaps, as in McMenemy's time we'll find that ..people like you when you win games - regardless of your past or who you worked for before. No................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 And how many fans would have chosen WGS first time around? Most fans were against WGS when he was first appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No as we lead with our hearts and not our heads. That being said whoever comes in as manager needs the majority of fans on side or they will have an even bigger uphill battle than they currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No, the fans shouldn't pick the manager. But yes, fan opinion is important. A manager who has "lost" the crowd is nearly as screwed as one who has lost the dressing room (e.g. Branfoot). And there can be less black and white consequences too. if we get a popular choice - such as WGS or Pearson - they are likely to be forgiven more easily than, say, Tony Adams who will be labelled as a useless skate b*stard unless he wins game after game. One area where i think a forum like this might have some influence is in managerial appointments. I find it laughable that some argued that negative comments on here could somehow derail a multi-million pound takeover. But it seems to me that this is as good a measure of "fan opinion" as you can find. The latest "next manager" poll has nearly 1,000 votes cast. If the appointments panel can't decide between, say, WGS and Adams, the statistical evidence on here might just help tip the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Most fans were against WGS when he was first appointed. My point exactly manji - I doubt that there is one fan here that could put hand on heart and say that they wanted WGS appointed as manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No, the fans should not choose the manager but it has to be someone that the majority will feel comfortable with and can instantly get behind and support. If it is someone who is disliked or not trusted, then they are fighting a loosing battle from the start. Quite. Remember the excitement when we were led to believe that Keegan was going to be manager? That excitement would have sold more season tickets and generated a high all round that would have given a real boost to the start of the season ...albeit with no guarantee it would last if results disappointed! On the other hand, apppointing someone like Adams would deflate the initial enthusiam, but he would soon win us over if he were succesful. The ideal is a popular keegan type who is then successful. No problem eh! K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 The question does not apply. The owner chooses. We do not have a rep on the Board (such as it was) now. Crouch was the last fan who could decide on a manager, and wasn't that controversial enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Done some digging. Further reading (although dated last year) ... http://www.cafebabel.com/eng/article/23754/football-fans-take-over-in-uk-france-and-germany.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 (edited) Do fans know better than the owner. will our former prejudices make selection harder? OK .. it won't be Keegan, looks unlikely to be Strachan, people are afraid it might be Shearer, and now terrified that it might be Tony Adams ! Surely the team must have confidence in the manager and it's not made easier when fans openly criticise the choice. You seem to be confusing fans debating before an appointment is made, and then the reaction once an appointment is made. People are being scathing about Adams now (and with good reason, ie he's proven to be incapable of running a club, NOTHING to do with his Portsmouh history BTW) but were he appointed then the general feeling would have to be "give him a chance". Noone will protest at the Millwall game. But fans are well within their rights to slate a potential manager. Why the hell not? Whoever is named will get a honeymoon/trial/probabtion period from the fans. The length of that will vary on the back of who the manager is and how well they do, but they will get some time to deliver. But its fair to say Adams will get less time than most. Edited 13 July, 2009 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 For the fans to choose a manager they would have to agree with each other. Have you read this board lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 It's really quite simple. The new owner has bought the club and can do what he damned well likes, within the remit of the rules and regulations of the Football League. However, as an astute businessman, I'm sure that nobody needs to teach him anything about the principles of good business practice. High up on the basics is the wisdom of treating your customers well, as without them, most businesses cannot function, let alone thrive. So far, all the signs indicate that our new owner is making all the right noises. He has quickly dismissed the former manager who he deemed not to be up to the job. STs have quickly gone on sale at a very good price. The offer of having a free seat at the Ajax match with every ST sold was again good business sense. The appointment of the new manager is possibly the most important decision he will make since he took us over. Naturally he will want to appoint the person most capable of gaining us promotion, but he will also be casting an eye on the reaction of the fanbase too, as he will want somebody deemed to be popular with them, as it will have an effect on ST and matchday sales. It is important that we quickly overturn that -10 deficit and a good turnout of support during those early matches could be crucial to the atmosphere. If we can get to level par with several other teams quickly, we can gain the momentum and belief to swell the crowds and propel us upwards. ML's primary objective is to gain as quick a return of his investment as possible by getting us to the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Obviously the board needs to appoint the manager they feel is best. The hoddle debacle shows how badly wrong it can go when you try and choose a compromise candidate. My only request is that if they come up with Adams at the top of their list they check they haven't got it sorted in descending order. There's many managers fans have been underwhelmed with but who turn out to be big successes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Should we not forget, the new owner (Mr. Liebherr Therefore, he is clearly no mug, and would not get there unless he was unable to make good decisions. He is clearly able to appoint the right people for the right jobs. As fans we need to support the man he chooses to appoint, or the man he chooses to appoint to appoint the manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bald_Si Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 I'd have said no - and i'd cite the example of Gordon Strachan. I remember the day when he was appointed and I groaned. But, turns out to be one of our best managers ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No, the fans shouldn't pick the manager. But yes, fan opinion is important. A manager who has "lost" the crowd is nearly as screwed as one who has lost the dressing room (e.g. Branfoot). And there can be less black and white consequences too. if we get a popular choice - such as WGS or Pearson - they are likely to be forgiven more easily than, say, Tony Adams who will be labelled as a useless skate b*stard unless he wins game after game. One area where i think a forum like this might have some influence is in managerial appointments. I find it laughable that some argued that negative comments on here could somehow derail a multi-million pound takeover. But it seems to me that this is as good a measure of "fan opinion" as you can find. The latest "next manager" poll has nearly 1,000 votes cast. If the appointments panel can't decide between, say, WGS and Adams, the statistical evidence on here might just help tip the balance. Good point. A sample of about 1000 would be considered more than statistically significant. On the other hand it merely shows people's first choices - mine was Strachan who if we're to believe what we read is unlikely to be the final choice. What it doesn't show is that I (I'm merely using my own opinions as an example) would be almost as happy with Coppell or Pearson but not at all happy with Adams or that thug Wise. A more useful poll might be to list orders of preference, coupled with another poll asking who we would least like as manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Should we not forget, the new owner (Mr. Liebherr Therefore, he is clearly no mug, and would not get there unless he was unable to make good decisions. He is clearly able to appoint the right people for the right jobs. As fans we need to support the man he chooses to appoint, or the man he chooses to appoint to appoint the manager! 2.5bn in the bank will not make tony adams a good appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 and Burley was better but the Scotland job was too much to refuse. The answer to your question is a resounding NO Agree with most of your assessment except the bit above, Burley was better than what (and I don't mean Wotte), a hole in the head? Burley was one of the worst choices ever made, yet most fans, me included welcomed his arrival. was made to look OK by the arrival of a top class Assistant Manager, Glyn Snodin. Thanks God Scotland came calling, we would probably be in Division 4 now, thanks to Burley's lack of preparation and the fattest, laziest, least fit squad of players ever assembled on a football pitch. Of course Burley is not the only one who looks better when he has a good team behind him, Hoddle is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 There are three types of managers: 1) The ones we'd love to have. 2) The ones we'd hate to have. 3) The ones we don't know or are lukewarm about. I think it's essential that the second category is avoided. I'm slightly worried that the choices are made by people who probably don't know that much about the game, and I hope that they take plenty of advice. If we can get a good appointment we'll support it and hopefully whoever it is stays a long time. If it's a terrible choice, like TA for instance, then it doesn't stand a chance. I, for instance, have delayed my purchase of season tickets. I couldn't endure that kind of appointment after everything we've been through, and I am probably fairly moderate in my views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 going to sound very controversial, but I don't mean it to be .....but should fans choose a manager..and is the owner/board really forced to listen? After having only 2 managers in a 30 year period..we suddenly set an FL record for most managers in such a short time. So what have we learned..? First...coaches don't always make good managers.Chris Nicholl IMHO..an excellent former player / captain, willing to die for the cause...and he frequently did, was basically good. Everyone makes mistakes he made his share but I think he (CN) did well. Followed by a former coach Ian Branfoot (less said the better). Alan Ball former "everything " did OK before the lure of the bright lights in Manchester. Dave Merrington (probably best youth coach ever at SFC ..Wallaces, Shearer, MLT etc) but failed miserably only just avoiding relegation. Dave Jones situation was " a bit special " and then came Hoddle. No such success record either but..we did a bit better. Stuart Gray, a good coach, popular guy, but no manager. Gordon Strachan generally regarded as best since McMenemy was slated horribly by a section of the fan base when he came and mourned when he left, is now favourite to take over, but probably won't. Glenn Hoddle (so we hear) was ready to take the job back till he heard the fans protest and told RL - no thanks! Then Steve Wigley, another good youth coach.. but patently unsuitable. Sturrock (has managed to keep Plymouth in the CCC,) but was this time was victim of " player power ". Then came.. 'arry, and the curse of Fratton came with him..and afterwards Wise & Bassett...no better, and Burley was better but the Scotland job was too much to refuse. Gorman & Doddsy (no room for sentiment here) and then Nigel Pearson. We survived - really thought he had it, but Lowe sacks him for the " Dutch models " - no comment necessary...so the next question is : Do fans know better than the owner. will our former prejudices make selection harder? OK .. it won't be Keegan, looks unlikely to be Strachan, people are afraid it might be Shearer, and now terrified that it might be Tony Adams ! Surely the team must have confidence in the manager and it's not made easier when fans openly criticise the choice. I know all about democracy (I live in Sweden !), and we are all entitles to an opinion (hence polls), but Markus Liebherr has already put his money where no-one else was prepared to put it, and we must respect his choice - whoever it is. I'm concerned that a " hate campaign " on this board against individuals may create bad feelings within the club before a ball is even kicked and the team will take the blame. Perhaps, as in McMenemy's time we'll find that ..people like you when you win games - regardless of your past or who you worked for before. no let the management chose who they think is the best long term choice for manager and not the fans . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 I'd have said no - and i'd cite the example of Gordon Strachan. I remember the day when he was appointed and I groaned. But, turns out to be one of our best managers ever. i think that was the commen view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Good point. A sample of about 1000 would be considered more than statistically significant. On the other hand it merely shows people's first choices - mine was Strachan who if we're to believe what we read is unlikely to be the final choice. What it doesn't show is that I (I'm merely using my own opinions as an example) would be almost as happy with Coppell or Pearson but not at all happy with Adams or that thug Wise. A more useful poll might be to list orders of preference, coupled with another poll asking who we would least like as manager? True enough - the polls aren't a vigorous mathematical analysis of opinion, but I'd have thought twenty minutes on this forum would lead the reader to the following (broadly accurate) analysis of the views of the fanbase. Namely; Very popular: Strachan Popular: Pearson, Keegan, Coppell Some honourable mentions: Boothroyd, Tisdale, Gross Some measurable resistance: Hoddle, Wotte (RIP) Monumentally unpopular: Tony Adams Of course, there are literally dozens of possible candidates not on this limited list of ten. But these are the ten who - at present - are "testable" in this curious court of public opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No, the 'fans' got us relegated by refusing to accept Hoddle back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 My point exactly manji - I doubt that there is one fan here that could put hand on heart and say that they wanted WGS appointed as manager. Me. I remember being on my way to football and thinking: 'good, he'll give them the kick up the arse they need' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No, the 'fans' got us relegated by refusing to accept Hoddle back. Well, that wasn't the only reason. Just because the fans "blocked" Hoddle, didn't mean we had to endure the Sturrock and Wigley fiasco. And even having done so, relegation was not inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 If it's a terrible choice, like TA for instance, then it doesn't stand a chance. ..... and if TA was appointed and went on to win the first 10 games then every supporter would be drooling over him. A lot of fans are very fickle. Of course it's up to the BoD to appoint the manager and they will go for whoever they think is the best choice, doesn't stop us having a little fun speculating though. Whoever it is I'll back them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 true enough - the polls aren't a vigorous mathematical analysis of opinion, but i'd have thought twenty minutes on this forum would lead the reader to the following (broadly accurate) analysis of the views of the fanbase. Namely; very popular: Strachan popular: Pearson, keegan, coppell some honourable mentions: Boothroyd, tisdale, gross some measurable resistance: Hoddle, wotte (rip) monumentally unpopular: Tony adams of course, there are literally dozens of possible candidates not on this limited list of ten. But these are the ten who - at present - are "testable" in this curious court of public opinion. +1 k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No - otherwise we'd had a Big Brother style vote like Luton held a few years ago. The fans should be considered and how they would react to certain appointments but WGS would not have been a fans' choice and look what a success he was. However, boardrooms do need to think about the messages they send out. Stuart Gray's appointment after a whole summer of dithering smacked of last resort and Wigley's just said "we as a board of directors accept 4th from bottom". Dowie at Charlton was never going to work, nor Graham at Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 He who pays the piper, etc, etc... I know the fans ultimately do the paying but the new owner is the man with his hand in his pocket at the moment, so we should respect his decision until it all goes wrong, of course!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 13 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Me. I remember being on my way to football and thinking: 'good, he'll give them the kick up the arse they need' I find myself agreeing with you AGAIN, Crab Lungs (that admission doesn't make me a prophet BTW- but I agree with your last comment - and it worked. Strachan was the sort of player I loved to hate (because he was so competative) and did well against us. I felt sorry for him when Coventry sacked him, especially as his CCFC chairman sold the team out from under him to balance the boooks and left him with dead-beats and boys! No wonder they went down. I though it was an inspired appointment at the time, and I loved his press conferences from Day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 13 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 July, 2009 True enough - the polls aren't a vigorous mathematical analysis of opinion, but I'd have thought twenty minutes on this forum would lead the reader to the following (broadly accurate) analysis of the views of the fanbase. Namely; Very popular: Strachan Popular: Pearson, Keegan, Coppell Some honourable mentions: Boothroyd, Tisdale, Gross Some measurable resistance: Hoddle, Wotte (RIP) Monumentally unpopular: Tony Adams Of course, there are literally dozens of possible candidates not on this limited list of ten. But these are the ten who - at present - are "testable" in this curious court of public opinion. Good accessment Saints Bobby, I agree. mind you ..there isn't a single foreign manager there (except Gross) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No. Owner's money = owner's decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcsfc Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Handing that responsibility to a bunch of half wits would be a monumental mistake! (some present company excluded some included) IMHO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Yes, I think the fans should choose the manager. A group of unemployed managers should be invited to the training ground to work with the resreves/youth team. They would stay there, maybe in some temporary accomodation that was specifically built. Camera's should be nstalled so we can watch their every movement and we can judge how well they are getting on with the players and whether their management approach is of any use to us. Each week we could ring a hotline and vote to get rid of one of the managers. This whole process should last about 10 weeks. At the end, the three remaining managers should then be put to the vote and the winner should be given the position. This idea makes perfect sense and is in no way at all completely ridiculous. Nor is the suggestion of fans choosing the manager completely stupid. It is not. It is a great idea. Oh yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 No, too many different opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Moliano Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Prime example of why this should never happen = Newcastle United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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