Noodles34 Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Is to get back out there and win the next game. Norwich can't come quick enough, because no matter what these pathetic knee jerkers write tonight i think we are a good team, but we were beaten by a better one (on the day) today, it just seemed like a bad day in the office when nothing seemed to go right and we all get those, and so do the likes of Chelsea, Manure, Real Madrid. So if we can just carry on, put this behind us and get another 8 match unbeaten run then that will do for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Totally agree... the knee jerkers are beyond belief really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 We've put a good team together, but I still can't wait for the end of next summer (whichever league we are in) when I feel Pardew will have put together the squad he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Exactly, ppl need to understand that occasionally teams lose games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 Indeed, were people expecting us to never lose another game under Pardew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 15 November, 2009 Share Posted 15 November, 2009 5-5 would have been a fair result. Keep the Faith Norwich are SO in for it on Saturday. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Is to get back out there and win the next game. Norwich can't come quick enough, because no matter what these pathetic knee jerkers write tonight i think we are a good team, but we were beaten by a better one (on the day) today, it just seemed like a bad day in the office when nothing seemed to go right and we all get those, and so do the likes of Chelsea, Manure, Real Madrid. So if we can just carry on, put this behind us and get another 8 match unbeaten run then that will do for me. What that man said. We fell flat on our faces - it was going to happen one day. I really didn't see it coming against Brighton, but I'm sure Man Utd fans didn't expect to lose at Burnley. Nothing wrong with the players expecting to win as long as it doesn't mean they forget to turn up. I suspect a few Staplewood rollickings this week will blow those particular cobwebs away. We've had a losing mentality around this club for so long and it's bloody fantastic to have a winning one. Losing one game we should be winning is a right p1sser to start the week on. But it's not the end of the world FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigersaint Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Completely agree with all posts above, I'm sure we'll see the players pick themselves up after a disappointing defeat against what was a very lively Brighton side and let Norwich take the backlash next Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd_barrett_saint Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 yep, we'll do norwich in the next game. i think pardew might go back to 4-5-1/4-3-3, with connolly and antonio on the bench again, so that we have better options to change the game if needs be. with 4-4-2 and both of those on, we have no where to go if things don't go our way. although i don't like wotton, i would bring him back in again to protect the back 4, as it looks like it needs it. but then in january we'll need to buy a better replacement for that position. i'm not sure about moving james there, as i think it helps to have a "hard man" in that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Totally agree. I watched the game online and as soon as the final whistle went I was obviously disappointed but it didn't take long afterwards to realise it's just one small blip in a decent time for us. We'll be much better against Norwich and we will also lose other games this season - we're still on the up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Yes a small blip ,a week to refresh and kick on .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Indeed, were people expecting us to never lose another game under Pardew? I admit, on Sunday before the match I was thinking to myself 'imagine if we went the rest of the season not losing, like Manure/Arsenal in the past'. But yeah, I accept that teams lose and mentioned to Thorpie_the_sinner that the Brighton game would be a potential banana skin due to the simple fact that we could have been out of the relegation zone. Bring on Norwich p.s. I'd prefer seeing Connolly as a supersub for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 If we had beaten Brighton I think we would have come unstuck against Norwich. Now I`m convinced there will be a back lash and we will beat Norwich. So all in all nothing lost. Another 8 game unbeaten run coming up. Not including meaningless paint pot cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Indeed, were people expecting us to never lose another game under Pardew? I dont think anyone is/was expecting to never lose again - I think folk are simply venting because we lost against a poor L1 side. The result yesterday was not acceptable and that is why some (rightfully) will have a moan. Nothing more nothing less. Next week is now a BIG test - the longer we remain in the relegation zone the more I worry about players confidence and holding on to our better players in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 I dont think anyone is/was expecting to never lose again - I think folk are simply venting because we lost against a poor L1 side. The result yesterday was not acceptable and that is why some (rightfully) will have a moan. Nothing more nothing less. Next week is now a BIG test - the longer we remain in the relegation zone the more I worry about players confidence and holding on to our better players in Jan. I don't think they are that poor, i think they are in a false position. They have good players for this level (Forester, Elliott, Cox, El-Abd) etc..and spent just around £1m in the summer on new players. They were pre-season favourites for at least a top 6 spot - now they have a decent manager i expect them to move up the league quite quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Exactly, ppl need to understand that occasionally teams lose games... Of course they do, but it is the manner in which they lose them Playing hoof and run is NOT the Saints way, as has been demonstrated in a lot of previous matches, so WHY adopt that game v Brighton Their back line were in position to get every ball pumped forward NOT ideal Football tactics IMHO....... and it failed miserably Still, if most of you are satisfied in how we played, then so be it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Still, if most of you are satisfied in how we played, then so be it You mong. Teams have off days, we had one yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 You mong. Teams have off days, we had one yesterday. Cant people converse without the need for insults? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Cant people converse without the need for insults? Hey, he's nice and friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie2008 Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Is to get back out there and win the next game. Norwich can't come quick enough, because no matter what these pathetic knee jerkers write tonight i think we are a good team, but we were beaten by a better one (on the day) today, it just seemed like a bad day in the office when nothing seemed to go right and we all get those, and so do the likes of Chelsea, Manure, Real Madrid. So if we can just carry on, put this behind us and get another 8 match unbeaten run then that will do for me. Wholeheartedly agree. Another big crowd and a big atmosphere for Saturday and we'll be back on track (not that I think we're far off it). We're bound to lose a few games, but 1 in 9 is OK. Let's just win the next 8? :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 sign of a good team? Not losing to inferior teams at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 sign of a good team? Not losing to inferior teams at home Yes, but yesterday Brighton were not an inferior team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 sign of a good team? Not losing to inferior teams at home Abso-bloody-lutely. I see the Communist Party are out in force as usual, making sure the party line is toed and all criticism is stifled. We've been humilliated by a sh*te side, shown to have no depth, shown to be totally complaicent, and shown to be reasonably bereft of opponent preparation and tactics. But its only one defeat in 8 of course. Nothing to worry about despite how close Orient came, how we nearly gave the game away agaisnt Charlton in the last 15mins, etc, etc. There is a huge amount of work to be done at SMS still, including reducing our dependency on loans that can be disturbed or can p*ss off at the drop of a hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 (edited) Yes, but yesterday Brighton were not an inferior team! They should have been!! Brighton didnt play well imo - we played awful and made them look good. Edited 16 November, 2009 by Glasgow_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 sign of a good team? Not losing to inferior teams at home Man United VS Norwich, 2005. Man United were worse than Norwich that year. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 They should have been!! Brighton didnt play well imo - we played awful and made them look good. they played a great game IMO - well disaplined, had a fantastic defensive shape to them and knew the ballance between attacking and defending. They were possibly the most organised outfit i've seen us play this season. Poyett will be a hero for them IMO. He was the engine behind the success at Leeds/Swindon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Even a loss against Norwich wouldn't be time to panic - so long as we put in a better performance than last nights. Especially defensively, I'd keep faith with Jaidi but maybe start Thomas in Trotmans place, to try and solidify it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Even a loss against Norwich wouldn't be time to panic - so long as we put in a better performance than last nights. Especially defensively, I'd keep faith with Jaidi but maybe start Thomas in Trotmans place, to try and solidify it a bit. a defeat against Norwich could leave us as much as 7 points behind 5th bottom in L1. After 17 league games that has to be considered unacceptable. We have underachieved so far this season and cannot afford another defeat. If we are still in the bottom 4 come xmas (now sadly a real possibility) then some of our better players may want to jump ship in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 a defeat against Norwich could leave us as much as 7 points behind 5th bottom in L1. After 17 league games that has to be considered unacceptable. We have underachieved so far this season and cannot afford another defeat. If we are still in the bottom 4 come xmas (now sadly a real possibility) then some of our better players may want to jump ship in Jan. I don't think we will lose against Norwich but it is still a very real possibility. Our problems stem from having an unorganised team at the start of the season. Trotman, Jaidi, Hammond, Lambert, Antonio, Mellis were all new recruits either just before or after the season kicked off - they had to be just thrust into the action. Following the Bristol Rovers game, which we were mightily unlucky to lose, we had a sustained unbeaten period which was partly due to having a settled squad. We won't go down this season - I'd cut off my own testicles in public if we do - and there's still ages to go until the end of the season. As for players leaving, well I sincerely hope they can see that the rebuilding process is a lengthy one, and not a case of instant miracles.The board has given us two seasons to get back into the Championship - and I think if we don't scrape into the play-offs this season, then we'll accomplish it next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Of course they do, but it is the manner in which they lose them Playing hoof and run is NOT the Saints way, as has been demonstrated in a lot of previous matches, so WHY adopt that game v Brighton Their back line were in position to get every ball pumped forward NOT ideal Football tactics IMHO....... and it failed miserably Still, if most of you are satisfied in how we played, then so be it But since we didn't play 'hoof and run', your comments are not relevant. It was just one of those games. I was at the game but my son watched on Sky. He tells me the TV stats showed us to have had 69% of the possession in the second half and the commnetators spent time praising the Brighton keeper's role in keeping us out, which fits with how it looked to me. At times it was like a practice game, attack v defence. We'll be fine this season. This game was bit of a reality check ,that's all. You really can't win them all. K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 New manager factor and all that, never mind we'll get right next match. beaten by the better team on the day but I'm sure we'll redress the balance down at the Witherdean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 I've just consulted page 457 of the 'Boys Book of Football Cliches' and the sign of a good team is put down as Quote : 'winning when you are playing badly . Happy to help . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 New manager factor and all that, never mind we'll get right next match. beaten by the better team on the day but I'm sure we'll redress the balance down at the Witherdean. We had a new manager but it took ages for us to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Is this a thread for knee-jerkers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Quick, quick - panic!! We're rubbish! We're going to get relegated! No teams below, above or around us in the league should ever beat us! We can't defend! Pardew's rubbish! Our position is unnacceptable! All our players will leave! When you stand back and read the above, do you not get even slightly embarassed at how full full of hyperbole, how childishly petulant and how melodramatic you are being? Jesus, what is wrong with people? I have no problem with criticising but for the love of God GET SOME PERSPECTIVE. One defeat in 8 does not make us worldbeaters (yet) but nor does it make us relegation fodder. Honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&White Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Is this a thread for knee-jerkers? Makes you laugh eh ? COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Abso-bloody-lutely. I see the Communist Party are out in force as usual, making sure the party line is toed and all criticism is stifled. We've been humilliated by a sh*te side, shown to have no depth, shown to be totally complaicent, and shown to be reasonably bereft of opponent preparation and tactics. But its only one defeat in 8 of course. Nothing to worry about despite how close Orient came, how we nearly gave the game away agaisnt Charlton in the last 15mins, etc, etc. There is a huge amount of work to be done at SMS still, including reducing our dependency on loans that can be disturbed or can p*ss off at the drop of a hat. A good old Victor Meldrew is at it again! Not happy that we have lost one in 9 ( I make it) and that we have WON most of our games recently I see. Brighton were not sh*te. They defended well and were excellent on the break. Even the best sides that McMenemy put out occasinally lost to a so called poorer team. Only you could find a problem with the Charlton game which was an excellent performace apart from ONE sloppy moment. Still every sliver lining has a cloud eh Alpine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Norwich are a very good team and will exploit our weakness. Norwich win and they will do it comfortably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Is to get back out there and win the next game. Norwich can't come quick enough, because no matter what these pathetic knee jerkers write tonight i think we are a good team, but we were beaten by a better one (on the day) today, it just seemed like a bad day in the office when nothing seemed to go right and we all get those, and so do the likes of Chelsea, Manure, Real Madrid. So if we can just carry on, put this behind us and get another 8 match unbeaten run then that will do for me. + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Still, it's good to see our loss has brought some sunshine to the empty pathetic lives of some so called fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Abso-bloody-lutely. I see the Communist Party are out in force as usual, making sure the party line is toed and all criticism is stifled. We've been humilliated by a sh*te side, shown to have no depth, shown to be totally complaicent, and shown to be reasonably bereft of opponent preparation and tactics. But its only one defeat in 8 of course. Nothing to worry about despite how close Orient came, how we nearly gave the game away agaisnt Charlton in the last 15mins, etc, etc. There is a huge amount of work to be done at SMS still, including reducing our dependency on loans that can be disturbed or can p*ss off at the drop of a hat. The one result this season, which was closest to being different was the Bristol game - when we played very well and got lost out to a wonder goal when time was up. It happens. But to start undermining our points won by saying we nearly lost them is not logical. We are playing like one of the top sides in this division. If one defeat shows lack of depth, prep and tactics - the last 8 games before must mean we had world class depth, prep and tactics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Norwich are a very good team and will exploit our weakness. Norwich win and they will do it comfortably. Norwich to win? Possibly. Comfortably? No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 Abso-bloody-lutely. I see the Communist Party are out in force as usual, making sure the party line is toed and all criticism is stifled. We've been humilliated by a sh*te side, But its only one defeat in 8 of course. Nothing to worry about despite how close Orient came, how we nearly gave the game away agaisnt Charlton in the last 15mins, etc, etc. There is a huge amount of work to be done at SMS still, including reducing our dependency on loans that can be disturbed or can p*ss off at the drop of a hat. Fook me Alp's you really are one of a kind. I remember when Manchester United regularly got humiliated by a ****e Southampton side who were regularly shown to have no depth, shown to be totally complaicent, and shown to be reasonably bereft of opponent preparation and tactics. .....wise up. A win v Norwich will show this to be what it is, a freak result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 November, 2009 Share Posted 16 November, 2009 People are being totally disrespectful to Brighton. Their first goal was superb. Great movement, great cross, great finish. Anyone would have been proud of it. OK our positioning (well Trottman's) wasn't great, but it was a good goal that beat Harding and Jaidi all ends up. Whatever their position coming into the game, they played well and caught us on the hop. The manager warned against it, but we slipped up. Yes we were poor but how often had we said that about the opposition that we outplayed? Too many of our players had off days. The performance was nothing like that at Bristol Rovers a week before - a team far superior to Brighton. The mark of a good team is how you respond. So on Saturday we'll find out how good our team are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 17 November, 2009 Share Posted 17 November, 2009 sign of a good team? Not losing to inferior teams at home Sign of a good team is solid at the back! We are still a little weak/disorganised there, letting in 3 against Brighton Bristol and Huddersfield and 2 to the likes of Torquay and Orient. A bit of work still needs to be done on the solidity of the back 4 who need to get a few clean sheets behind them. Apart from that, which is work in progress, everything else is coming together! so onwards and upwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 17 November, 2009 Share Posted 17 November, 2009 Ok some perspective.. We are still in business. We have a better manager that we had last year We have a better chairman than we did last year We have a better ownership structure that we did last year We have a better balance sheet than we did last year We have better access to funds than we did last year We have a better attitude that we did last year We have (dare I say it) a better team than we did 3 months ago We are seeing better football than we did last year We are happier than we were last year I'd say that was improvement - we are getting there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 17 November, 2009 Share Posted 17 November, 2009 Ok some perspective.. We are still in business. We have a better manager that we had last year We have a better chairman than we did last year We have a better ownership structure that we did last year We have a better balance sheet than we did last year We have better access to funds than we did last year We have a better attitude that we did last year We have (dare I say it) a better team than we did 3 months ago We are seeing better football than we did last year We are happier than we were last year I'd say that was improvement - we are getting there Exactly but perhaps we will be in the same League next season but who really cares as for the first time for years we are winning lots of games for a change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 17 November, 2009 Share Posted 17 November, 2009 What that man said. We fell flat on our faces - it was going to happen one day. I really didn't see it coming against Brighton, but I'm sure Man Utd fans didn't expect to lose at Burnley. Nothing wrong with the players expecting to win as long as it doesn't mean they forget to turn up. I suspect a few Staplewood rollickings this week will blow those particular cobwebs away. We've had a losing mentality around this club for so long and it's bloody fantastic to have a winning one. Losing one game we should be winning is a right p1sser to start the week on. But it's not the end of the world FFS. good post - I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 17 November, 2009 Share Posted 17 November, 2009 Exactly but perhaps we will be in the same League next season but who really cares as for the first time for years we are winning lots of games for a change Most probably we will be in this league next season. Yesterday's match can serve as a reminder next season that we will have no easy games, even if we are doing well in the league. Lots of speculation there, I know, but I think it will come true... And yes, no matter the league it's great to win games more often than losing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 17 November, 2009 Share Posted 17 November, 2009 Abso-bloody-lutely. I see the Communist Party are out in force as usual, making sure the party line is toed and all criticism is stifled. We've been humilliated by a sh*te side, shown to have no depth, shown to be totally complaicent, and shown to be reasonably bereft of opponent preparation and tactics. But its only one defeat in 8 of course. Nothing to worry about despite how close Orient came, how we nearly gave the game away agaisnt Charlton in the last 15mins, etc, etc. There is a huge amount of work to be done at SMS still, including reducing our dependency on loans that can be disturbed or can p*ss off at the drop of a hat. Steady on Alpine ....... if you criticise and say a few Home Truths about the Team's performance/tactics/system, etc", you get slaughtered on here Far better to wear rosy coloured glasses and say that everything is fine:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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