miserableoldgit Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Radio Solent reporting this morning that Saints Reserve team is to be pulled out of their Combination division and will instead play freindlies at home and abroad, and in doing so will strenthen realtions with teams in Europe. Interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Too right! It never happens often that first team players get in involved in reserve matches anymore, which suggests they have these closed door games already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Radio Solent reporting this morning that Saints Reserve team is to be pulled out of their Combination division and will instead play freindlies at home and abroad, and in doing so will strenthen realtions with teams in Europe. Interesting! I haven't been a huge fan of Cortese lately, but I have to say, if true, this is a top draw decision IMO. Players and fans might more enthused, and certainly more should be learned. The organisation of reserve team football in our professional leages is downright pathetic. Chelsea "reserves" for example are multi-million pound players who play pointless lacklustre games at places like Aldershot Rec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 I haven't been a huge fan of Cortese lately, but I have to say, if true, this is a top draw decision IMO. Players and fans might more enthused, and certainly more should be learned. The organisation of reserve team football in our professional leages is downright pathetic. Chelsea "reserves" for example are multi-million pound players who play pointless lacklustre games at places like Aldershot Rec. Whats he dont to upset you then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Sounds a much better option than playing away to Forest Green Rovers et al on a cold and wet January night in front of 4 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 I think this is a great idea, it allows you to have greater control over when and who you play. Our youger players could benefit from playing against foreign teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Sounds a much better option than playing away to Forest Green Rovers et al on a cold and wet January night in front of 4 people. I didn't know their ground could hold 4 ???:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Not really surprised, what benefit is there for players playing against the likes of Forrest Green Rovers Reserves? Arranging friendly games against Premier League clubs or foreign teams will be of more use to the development of the younger players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Whats he dont to upset you then? I think he's been childish and arrogant over his relations with the Echo and dissing of other people expressing their views. However I don't then try to interpret everything else he does in the same way. So I'll give him credit if he does something good, and the appointment of a talent identification head honcho, and the reserve team games ideas are IMO both very good moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Radio Solent reporting this morning that Saints Reserve team is to be pulled out of their Combination division and will instead play freindlies at home and abroad, and in doing so will strenthen realtions with teams in Europe. Interesting! Excellent news. I am going to give the first team a miss this year and follow the reserves across the continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Another excellent initiative from NC, hope the likes of SOGGY can give credit where its due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Excellent news. I am going to give the first team a miss this year and follow the reserves across the continent. It means I might be able to get the odd game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Seems a very sensible decision. Given that a lot of sides in the lower leagues struggle to find enough players to fill the first team subs bench, it stands to reason that games against their "reserve" teams aren't going to provide any benefit to us other than perhaps injury recuperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 I haven't been a huge fan of Cortese lately, but I have to say, if true, this is a top draw decision IMO. Players and fans might more enthused, and certainly more should be learned. The organisation of reserve team football in our professional leages is downright pathetic. Chelsea "reserves" for example are multi-million pound players who play pointless lacklustre games at places like Aldershot Rec. I thought the PL sides were playing each other and it's only those clubs in the FL that have the reserve leagues localised. Besides, we don't know if this is NCs great idea or that of the development team (Reed et al) rubber stamped by NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 28 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 28 May, 2010 I thought the PL sides were playing each other and it's only those clubs in the FL that have the reserve leagues localised. Besides, we don't know if this is NCs great idea or that of the development team (Reed et al) rubber stamped by NC. TBF the club haven`t confirmed or commented on this yet, but Solent sounded pretty confident that it was going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Besides, we don't know if this is NCs great idea or that of the development team (Reed et al) rubber stamped by NC. There's no i in team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 This is probably all part of the bigger picture and NC getting ready for when we are playing in the Champions League after successfully completing the clubs 5 year plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Not really surprised, what benefit is there for players playing against the likes of Forrest Green Rovers Reserves? Arranging friendly games against Premier League clubs or foreign teams will be of more use to the development of the younger players. If you think about it in reverse Forest Green's reserves probably play against better players than their first team do bizzare:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Good idea, reserve football in this country is rubbish nowadays. Still, I can't help thinking that these European teams will be running scared at the prospect of facing young Pulis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Nick Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Good news. The reserves should be about developing young players, not trying to win the Combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 I'm still peed off about us getting booted from the Premier League reserve league when the first team got relegated - we were one of the best sides in that with all the academy players getting useful run outs against decent opponents every match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Not really surprised, what benefit is there for players playing against the likes of Forrest Green Rovers Reserves? Arranging friendly games against Premier League clubs or foreign teams will be of more use to the development of the younger players. Tend to agree with this. Can't for the life of me imagine why Germany did this: http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/story/0,27032,12023_6174582,00.html prior to the WC, don't understand the benefit of it at all...??!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Tend to agree with this. Can't for the life of me imagine why Germany did this: http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/story/0,27032,12023_6174582,00.html prior to the WC, don't understand the benefit of it at all...??!!! Noted the headline : "Germany enjoy warm-up romp". If you saw the same headline about England you would expect it to involve something more sordid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 I'm still peed off about us getting booted from the Premier League reserve league when the first team got relegated - we were one of the best sides in that with all the academy players getting useful run outs against decent opponents every match. Quite right. We should have stayed there on merit and to relegate us from it just because we were relegated was a farcical situation. These two initiatives, the appointment of David Burke from Manchester City's scouting organisation and the opportunity of our reserves to play matches arranged to suit us at home and abroad, is a clear statement of intent of the club's ambitions. I think that we are in for an exciting summer with some more good news to come if we are able to sign players of the calibre of those touted on here, but the infrastructure of the actual club, with improvements to the training ground, catering and hospitality and now further tweaking of the backroom staff is symptomatic of Cortese putting into place pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. When that is complete, we ought to have everything in place to get to the Premiership and to stay there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Quite right. We should have stayed there on merit and to relegate us from it just because we were relegated was a farcical situation. These two initiatives, the appointment of David Burke from Manchester City's scouting organisation and the opportunity of our reserves to play matches arranged to suit us at home and abroad, is a clear statement of intent of the club's ambitions. I think that we are in for an exciting summer with some more good news to come if we are able to sign players of the calibre of those touted on here, but the infrastructure of the actual club, with improvements to the training ground, catering and hospitality and now further tweaking of the backroom staff is symptomatic of Cortese putting into place pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. When that is complete, we ought to have everything in place to get to the Premiership and to stay there. And to get into real Euro competitions too, seeing as most of the PL will be ineligible by the time we get back there... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1282136/Manchester-City-United-Chelsea-Liverpool-maybe-Europe-Real-Madrid-Just-UEFAs-new-finance-rules-mean.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Expect plenty of matches against Glenn Hoddles academy side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Expect a Saints reserve team on your easyjet flight (or probably Flybe from Southampton I suppose) soon. It could be a reasonably cheap way of travelling, interesting for the players for the different environments and playing styles, and broaden their horizons a bit. No doubt some of us far-flung types would take the chance to go and watch and confirm that Saints fans are everywhere! Oh yes, and if we have home matches have them at SMS and don't do them behind closed doors. Continentals are well-impressed with the crowds we get in the third division (eg: here in Italy or look at Morgan's Facebook page) so why not impress them with our reserve team attendances. You never know, it might persuade a future young star to sign for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Expect a Saints reserve team on your easyjet flight (or probably Flybe from Southampton I suppose) soon. It could be a reasonably cheap way of travelling, interesting for the players for the different environments and playing styles, and broaden their horizons a bit. No doubt some of us far-flung types would take the chance to go and watch and confirm that Saints fans are everywhere! Oh yes, and if we have home matches have them at SMS and don't do them behind closed doors. Continentals are well-impressed with the crowds we get in the third division (eg: here in Italy or look at Morgan's Facebook page) so why not impress them with our reserve team attendances. You never know, it might persuade a future young star to sign for us. A great idea. I remember there was a free to enter friendly vs West Ham back in April 2002 around Easter time, there must have been a crowd of a few thousand there for it, had a great time. (We lost 3-0 from what I remember, but nontheless it was a good way to spend the evening. Bairdy played.) Even if it's only a few hundred paying 3 pounds or so to get in it would make for great experience for the lads, and if it's against someone actually rather good (Barca or AC Milan Reserves) then we could no doubt get a decent crowd for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Seems a very sensible decision. Given that a lot of sides in the lower leagues struggle to find enough players to fill the first team subs bench, it stands to reason that games against their "reserve" teams aren't going to provide any benefit to us other than perhaps injury recuperation. Agreed. It also demonstrates ambition yet again. It's a statement that basically says we are not a combination league club. I hope our reserves are playing CCC and Premier League Reserve sides for experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 so, saints takeover at home and we send the reserves to takeover europe tip top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsub Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 I can only assume that SFC can generate sufficent quality friendly matches to bring on the talent within the academy. This is a brave move but one I support provided it can deliver better football for our up and coming and fringe players (or those returning from injury). I cannot imagine that this was entered in to lightly and the pros and cons will have been fully discussed. I would suspect that some of the Chamionship and even Prem clubs would relish the chance of having a run out against us given the good name the SFC academy has for generating high quality players. It actually also provides the coaching staff the oppoirutnity to experiment and put more players on and off during match since they will not be tied to league match substitute rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 I can only assume that SFC can generate sufficent quality friendly matches to bring on the talent within the academy. This is a brave move but one I support provided it can deliver better football for our up and coming and fringe players (or those returning from injury). I cannot imagine that this was entered in to lightly and the pros and cons will have been fully discussed. I would suspect that some of the Chamionship and even Prem clubs would relish the chance of having a run out against us given the good name the SFC academy has for generating high quality players. It actually also provides the coaching staff the oppoirutnity to experiment and put more players on and off during match since they will not be tied to league match substitute rules. A very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 It actually also provides the coaching staff the oppoirutnity to experiment and put more players on and off during match since they will not be tied to league match substitute rules. We might even get Pulis on the pitch for ten minutes at the end of a game ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Tend to agree with this. Can't for the life of me imagine why Germany did this: http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/story/0,27032,12023_6174582,00.html prior to the WC, don't understand the benefit of it at all...??!!! Think England did something similar prior to Euro 88. Beardsley scored 4. Didn't do us much good. We lost every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/8190446.Saints_to_axe_reserve_side_from_league/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 I can only assume that SFC can generate sufficent quality friendly matches to bring on the talent within the academy. Don't think we have pulled out of the Academy league have we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Don't think we have pulled out of the Academy league have we? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven on the wing Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 It would also give us the chance to play against & have a sneeky look at players we might be interested in from specific other clubs rather than a set league programme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 There's no i in team. No but there is a me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 There's no i in team. No, but "team" is an anagram of "meat", as in "meat pie" and of course "pi" and the other prominent transcendental "e" both feature in the famous equation "e^(pi*i) = -1", which relates unity on the real number line to - you guessed it: i! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 No, but "team" is an anagram of "meat", as in "meat pie" and of course "pi" and the other prominent transcendental "e" both feature in the famous equation "e^(pi*i) = -1", which relates unity on the real number line to - you guessed it: i! Yes, 'i' as in - !!!!!!!!!!!!!!VOTE FOR RICKIE!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Even if the reserves play non league 1st teams it has got to be a good thing But if we can get a couple of high profile reserve game it must be played at SMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy windham Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Think England did something similar prior to Euro 88. Beardsley scored 4. Didn't do us much good. We lost every game. one of my favourite phoenix from the flames, this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Sounds a much better option than playing away to Forest Green Rovers et al on a cold and wet January night in front of 4 people. There was more than four people there and it was n't januarylol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 28 May, 2010 Share Posted 28 May, 2010 Has to be the best way forward, as the quality of the opposition does not seem to be too much of a challenge, and looking at the results it seems the team approached the games last season with a laissez faire attitude. Getting better games especially overseas might inspire better performances that can be carried forwards into the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 29 May, 2010 Share Posted 29 May, 2010 And it might improve the attitude problems that have been mentioned - a few heavy defeats and they'll realise they aren't as good as they thought they were and need to work hard to succeed at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South City Si Posted 29 May, 2010 Share Posted 29 May, 2010 this sounds like a great idea. Used to go to the odd ressie game but stopped when we got kciked out the Prem res game as didn't really wish to see Aldershot let alone their reserve teams! How they pull this one off and may start going down to Staplewood again to watch games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 29 May, 2010 Share Posted 29 May, 2010 Brilliant sounding idea but how many games will we get to play every season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 May, 2010 Share Posted 29 May, 2010 Brilliant sounding idea but how many games will we get to play every season. As many or as little as they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 29 May, 2010 Share Posted 29 May, 2010 If only it was that easy. There will be times when a game will be hard to arrange or will need to be re-arranged due to aanother game being cancelled or added through drawing a cup game for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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