forever a red and white Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Basically we need the crowd. Couldn't agree more. Yeah performacnes haven;t been great but come on, lets give it our ****ing all. sod the booing and negativity. There are going to be nervy points.and this may be one now. Norwich dropped 30 points last year and stil won the league. Lets stay bloody positive, we're in round two and have 40-odd leagie games left. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 I agree, great post, and I have 100% faith in the manager, team and club, Cortese included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Coywws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 I thought it was a bloody good interview if im honest. Very complimentary of Bournemouth too (Fans/manager/team) but was frank with our problems in the first half. we're safe with him in charge, i just hope everyone realises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 The clue for me is in the name. We are 'supporters'... a bit of support from us shouldn't be too much to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Coyrafosos !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 great interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 here are my contemporaneous notes from AP's interview: Pardew: crowd were jittery and negative...first 2 games this season unlike last year in terms of crowd...teams will raise their game against us this season as we're favourites.. If we are going to be negative in the stadium, it will spread to the team...our passes were jeered unless they were brilliant...we need the stadium right behind us or we're not going to be able to do it...as it happened, crowd got behind us from start of 2nd half, which helped my teamtalk. Lallana, Puncheon and Lambert are big, big players...like taking Gerrard and Torres out of Liverpool makes them very ordinary. Cliche that players need a good pre-season under their belt, one more game and Adam will be up to speed - players in this modern era just need to be toned. He's lacking a bit of that, as are Rickie and Punch. Oxlade-Chamberlain merited his place because he's shown pace and "Antonio isn't here" but I hope there will be competition for that soon. The Bournemouth supporters, team and manager were fantastic - Howe's tactics and players confused me. They can do well in League One. Didn't really want to put Lambert on, but felt he needed ten minutes to make it possible for him to play on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 What a fantastic interview. Absolutely right about the crowd. Fair play to everyone in Northam stand second half cos you pulled it out of the bag big style. Sounded great from itchen. Nice one pardew. Think I love you after that interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonsaint Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 I was typing as he was speaking live on Radio Solent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Agreed, hit every nail on the head and mullered many on here, very glad I stayed up the extra 30 mins to be able to hear that with IPlayer unavailable down here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 here are my contemporaneous notes from AP's interview: Pardew: crowd were jittery and negative...first 2 games this season unlike last year in terms of crowd...teams will raise their game against us this season as we're favourites.. If we are going to be negative in the stadium, it will spread to the team...our passes were jeered unless they were brilliant...we need the stadium right behind us or we're not going to be able to do it...as it happened, crowd got behind us from start of 2nd half, which helped my teamtalk. Lallana, Puncheon and Lambert are big, big players...like taking Gerrard and Torres out of Liverpool makes them very ordinary. Cliche that players need a good pre-season under their belt, one more game and Adam will be up to speed - players in this modern era just need to be toned. He's lacking a bit of that, as are Rickie and Punch. Oxlade-Chamberlain merited his place because he's shown pace and "Antonio isn't here" but I hope there will be competition for that soon. The Bournemouth supporters, team and manager were fantastic - Howe's tactics and players confused me. They can do well in League One. Didn't really want to put Lambert on, but felt he needed ten minutes to make it possible for him to play on Saturday. Sounds promising... Matt Phillips perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Second game at home and the manager has to make more a less a cap in hand appeal to the supporters. In all honesty, where many are concerned these days, we don't deserve a manager, or the best squad of players, and most of all don't deserve a club and the likes of Nicolas Cortese and Marcus Liebherr. It's all defies belief and after all we've been though, it's high time we got our act together as supporters and give the same input the above mentioned have put in to giving us this extraordinary lease of life, this rebirth and hope for the future. Such is the forum interest in that we no longer have a match thread, a post match reaction thread. It starts at the head and it's no wonder the remainder is rotten to the core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Second game at home and the manager has to make more a less a cap in hand appeal to the supporters. In all honesty, where many are concerned these days, we don't deserve a manager, or the best squad of players, and most of all don't deserve a club and the likes of Nicolas Cortese and Marcus Liebherr. It's all defies belief and after all we've been though, it's high time we got our act together as supporters and give the same input the above mentioned have put in to giving us this extraordinary lease of life, this rebirth and hope for the future. Such is the forum interest in that we no longer have a match thread, a post match reaction thread. It starts at the head and it's no wonder the remainder is rotten to the core. Absolutely bang on, ART. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has continued to maintain that our supporters are some of the biggest and most ungrateful whingers in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Funnily enough I said to the guys I went to the game with just what good support could lead to! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Idiot ... right what I meant to say was 10 mins of solid support and we scored doesnt take a brain surgeon to realise we back the players and they might just up their level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Spot on, I love St Mary's when it's positive and rocking, let's not let it become a negative ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Second game at home and the manager has to make more a less a cap in hand appeal to the supporters. In all honesty, where many are concerned these days, we don't deserve a manager, or the best squad of players, and most of all don't deserve a club and the likes of Nicolas Cortese and Marcus Liebherr. It's all defies belief and after all we've been though, it's high time we got our act together as supporters and give the same input the above mentioned have put in to giving us this extraordinary lease of life, this rebirth and hope for the future. Such is the forum interest in that we no longer have a match thread, a post match reaction thread. It starts at the head and it's no wonder the remainder is rotten to the core. :adore: No that isn't because of Ramadan, it's because you are spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Second game at home and the manager has to make more a less a cap in hand appeal to the supporters. In all honesty, where many are concerned these days, we don't deserve a manager, or the best squad of players, and most of all don't deserve a club and the likes of Nicolas Cortese and Marcus Liebherr. It's all defies belief and after all we've been though, it's high time we got our act together as supporters and give the same input the above mentioned have put in to giving us this extraordinary lease of life, this rebirth and hope for the future. Such is the forum interest in that we no longer have a match thread, a post match reaction thread. It starts at the head and it's no wonder the remainder is rotten to the core. Agree, 13 months ago we would have taken anything to save our club. Never understood people who pay to go to every game to simply moan. I go to work and get paid for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 What a fantastic interview. Absolutely right about the crowd. Fair play to everyone in Northam stand second half cos you pulled it out of the bag big style. Sounded great from itchen. Nice one pardew. Think I love you after that interview. 2nded. Well done guys. Sounded good from the kingsland where it spread the longer it went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttdcs Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Absolutely bang on, ART. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has continued to maintain that our supporters are some of the biggest and most ungrateful whingers in football. It does not help with the skate WUM on this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St BATman Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 wasin Kinsland corner today and the noise in the second half was great - especially leading to Lallanas very well taken goal! However, me and my mate both said 'nice to have a good long session of OWTS, ca't remember the last time we did that'. Thought the boos at the end of the first game were disgraceful. We're a good side with a manager who's pedigree is way above this league and 14 months ago we may not have had a club to support. Time to get St Marys rocking every game and turn it into a fortress! (just my thoughts, haven't heard the post match comments yet. Also good to see Lallana looking really sharp for the second game in a row and delighted for O-C to get his goal!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 here are my contemporaneous notes from AP's interview: Pardew: crowd were jittery and negative...first 2 games this season unlike last year in terms of crowd...teams will raise their game against us this season as we're favourites.. If we are going to be negative in the stadium, it will spread to the team...our passes were jeered unless they were brilliant...we need the stadium right behind us or we're not going to be able to do it...as it happened, crowd got behind us from start of 2nd half, which helped my teamtalk. Lallana, Puncheon and Lambert are big, big players...like taking Gerrard and Torres out of Liverpool makes them very ordinary. Cliche that players need a good pre-season under their belt, one more game and Adam will be up to speed - players in this modern era just need to be toned. He's lacking a bit of that, as are Rickie and Punch. Oxlade-Chamberlain merited his place because he's shown pace and "Antonio isn't here" but I hope there will be competition for that soon. The Bournemouth supporters, team and manager were fantastic - Howe's tactics and players confused me. They can do well in League One. Didn't really want to put Lambert on, but felt he needed ten minutes to make it possible for him to play on Saturday. spot on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 My first time in The Northam for quite some time and really enjoyed the singing and banter. The second half (OWTSGMI) was really infectious. Our stewards do seem to have ants in their pants though, constantly changing places and blocking the view for us short-arses! Was surprised to see such a good turn out by B'mouth fans also, met a nice bunch in th Giddy Bridge pre-match. That's what a local derby should be like imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Second game at home and the manager has to make more a less a cap in hand appeal to the supporters. In all honesty, where many are concerned these days, we don't deserve a manager, or the best squad of players, and most of all don't deserve a club and the likes of Nicolas Cortese and Marcus Liebherr. It's all defies belief and after all we've been though, it's high time we got our act together as supporters and give the same input the above mentioned have put in to giving us this extraordinary lease of life, this rebirth and hope for the future. Such is the forum interest in that we no longer have a match thread, a post match reaction thread. It starts at the head and it's no wonder the remainder is rotten to the core. Absolutely agree. Apart from the bit about Nicolas Cortese, who is a clearly a blank and not worthy of our great club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 It does not help with the skate WUM on this site And that person is...? :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Are we crap fans in general? Just look at some of the tossers on here who will turn anything against the club.... For once in our miserable saints supporting lives. Let's just support te team. Roar our way to promotion and for bloody once, ignore non playing stuff??? Is that so bloody hard? Even the manager already is saying he needs the crowd Dear god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Had a bit of a lol tonight when they were announcing the bit about Britannia Road being a public highway etc. on the PA system at the end. Some bloke behind me starts singing, "on the road, on the road, on the road!" The "Is there a fire drill?" chant made me lol too, have to admit I haven't heard that one before. Great atmosphere overall though, especially second half. I swear the volume didn't change when Adam scored. It just change from a very loud, "OWTS" to lots of cheering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 What a fantastic interview. Absolutely right about the crowd. Fair play to everyone in Northam stand second half cos you pulled it out of the bag big style. Sounded great from itchen. Nice one pardew. Think I love you after that interview. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 10 August, 2010 Share Posted 10 August, 2010 Spot on Art I can honestly say St Mary's has been the most negative sporting arena I've ever experienced in 'any' sport, 'anywhere', 'anytime' and that's for over 40 years The daily *****ing on this forum fits in well where Saints fans are concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 here are my contemporaneous notes from AP's interview: Pardew: crowd were jittery and negative...first 2 games this season unlike last year in terms of crowd...teams will raise their game against us this season as we're favourites.. If we are going to be negative in the stadium, it will spread to the team...our passes were jeered unless they were brilliant...we need the stadium right behind us or we're not going to be able to do it...as it happened, crowd got behind us from start of 2nd half, which helped my teamtalk. Lallana, Puncheon and Lambert are big, big players...like taking Gerrard and Torres out of Liverpool makes them very ordinary. Cliche that players need a good pre-season under their belt, one more game and Adam will be up to speed - players in this modern era just need to be toned. He's lacking a bit of that, as are Rickie and Punch. Oxlade-Chamberlain merited his place because he's shown pace and "Antonio isn't here" but I hope there will be competition for that soon. The Bournemouth supporters, team and manager were fantastic - Howe's tactics and players confused me. They can do well in League One. Didn't really want to put Lambert on, but felt he needed ten minutes to make it possible for him to play on Saturday. Sorry, I think its far too easy to blame the supporters. How were the supporters responsible for the team being totally sh*t against Plymouth in the 2nd half right from the start ? And if the team arent toned and there isnt enough competition for places, thats his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 Sorry, I think its far too easy to blame the supporters. How were the supporters responsible for the team being totally sh*t against Plymouth in the 2nd half right from the start ? And if the team arent toned and there isnt enough competition for places, thats his fault. He was referring to the fact Lallana and Lambert had not had a pre-season, but becuase of their high level of fitness anyway they just need to be toned rather than the usual pre-season fitness regime that a lot of players need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 Second game at home and the manager has to make more a less a cap in hand appeal to the supporters. In all honesty, where many are concerned these days, we don't deserve a manager, or the best squad of players, and most of all don't deserve a club and the likes of Nicolas Cortese and Marcus Liebherr. It's all defies belief and after all we've been though, it's high time we got our act together as supporters and give the same input the above mentioned have put in to giving us this extraordinary lease of life, this rebirth and hope for the future. Such is the forum interest in that we no longer have a match thread, a post match reaction thread. It starts at the head and it's no wonder the remainder is rotten to the core. 100% agreed ART. even though I'm not so regular these days, in over 50 years as a Saints fan, I can scarcely recall such a negative attitude from "fans" who really have little on which to base their criticism. In my day, you might boo ; dirty play by an opponent, or an incompetent ref. but seldom your own players. Perhaps a minority who are displeased we didn't win every practice game by 4 goals, despite having 5/6 regulars unfit, or those who expected " big money / big name" signings and haven't seen them yet. Dickson looks good, Butterfield cost nothing ...and Richardson (an excellent buy by all accounts) was the victim of a freak training accident, and a " re-signed " Connolly is a fearful prospect for many defences. So where's the problem? There are a few storms in teacups at the moment...media photos, £3 booking fees and a chairman who doesn't tremble at the writings of sarcastic journalism, etc ..which are all part of a changing picture. During my long time as a fan, I've seen many bad years and sometimes... really bad football, but we cheered to encourage the team not boo them.To anyone who thinks they need to pay money and then look to boo the first bad pass..my advice ..STAY AWAY . The team doesn't need you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 Basically we need the crowd. Couldn't agree more. Yeah performacnes haven;t been great but come on, lets give it our ****ing all. sod the booing and negativity. There are going to be nervy points.and this may be one now. Norwich dropped 30 points last year and stil won the league. Lets stay bloody positive, we're in round two and have 40-odd leagie games left. COYR Some of Spain's WC performances weren't all that great either, but they stayed solid at the back,rode their luck and eventually scored,same as we seemed to do last night,sign of a really good side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 It's easy to say this after a victory. Support is a two way thing, I thought we looked good 1st half vs Plymouth but 2nd half was not acceptable IMO. The team have to lift the fans & vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 100% agreed ART. even though I'm not so regular these days, in over 50 years as a Saints fan, I can scarcely recall such a negative attitude from "fans" who really have little on which to base their criticism. In my day, you might boo ; dirty play by an opponent, or an incompetent ref. but seldom your own players. Perhaps a minority who are displeased we didn't win every practice game by 4 goals, despite having 5/6 regulars unfit, or those who expected " big money / big name" signings and haven't seen them yet. Dickson looks good, Butterfield cost nothing ...and Richardson (an excellent buy by all accounts) was the victim of a freak training accident, and a " re-signed " Connolly is a fearful prospect for many defences. So where's the problem? There are a few storms in teacups at the moment...media photos, £3 booking fees and a chairman who doesn't tremble at the writings of sarcastic journalism, etc ..which are all part of a changing picture. During my long time as a fan, I've seen many bad years and sometimes... really bad football, but we cheered to encourage the team not boo them.To anyone who thinks they need to pay money and then look to boo the first bad pass..my advice ..STAY AWAY . The team doesn't need you ! Great post. And Art's too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 100% agreed ART. even though I'm not so regular these days, in over 50 years as a Saints fan, I can scarcely recall such a negative attitude from "fans" who really have little on which to base their criticism. In my day, you might boo ; dirty play by an opponent, or an incompetent ref. but seldom your own players. Perhaps a minority who are displeased we didn't win every practice game by 4 goals, despite having 5/6 regulars unfit, or those who expected " big money / big name" signings and haven't seen them yet. Dickson looks good, Butterfield cost nothing ...and Richardson (an excellent buy by all accounts) was the victim of a freak training accident, and a " re-signed " Connolly is a fearful prospect for many defences. So where's the problem? There are a few storms in teacups at the moment...media photos, £3 booking fees and a chairman who doesn't tremble at the writings of sarcastic journalism, etc ..which are all part of a changing picture. During my long time as a fan, I've seen many bad years and sometimes... really bad football, but we cheered to encourage the team not boo them.To anyone who thinks they need to pay money and then look to boo the first bad pass..my advice ..STAY AWAY . The team doesn't need you ! I agree with the stay away comments, BUT as I've posted many many times. Saints fans are NEVER happy unless they are moaning. I've heard abuse and boos shouted at John Sydenham, Terry Paine, Alan Ball, Steve Williams, Frankie Benali, and even MLT in my regular days at the Dell. Someone on a previous thread was talking about someone giving Lambert stick. For some reason, a small but vocal minority of Saints fans seem to get a kick out of being depressed or negative. It hasn't gone away after a great season and a cup win, and it hasn't gone away after we've been made favourites for the League. You don't have to be happy clappy and you don't need to be a MoG, for some people Life just isn't fun and we seem to attract a lot of the latter. Perhaps it's something in the water? Who knows, No amount of debating will change the mind-set, they'll still be moaning when we challenge for the Champions League, it's how they live their lives unfortunately. Such a waste. It's quite easy to be worried about the lack of signings and the potential implications OFF the pitch, I like others am. But when it comes to match day - FFS some people just won't be happy unless they can moan about us losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 100% agreed ART. even though I'm not so regular these days, in over 50 years as a Saints fan, I can scarcely recall such a negative attitude from "fans" who really have little on which to base their criticism. In my day, you might boo ; dirty play by an opponent, or an incompetent ref. but seldom your own players. Perhaps a minority who are displeased we didn't win every practice game by 4 goals, despite having 5/6 regulars unfit, or those who expected " big money / big name" signings and haven't seen them yet. Dickson looks good, Butterfield cost nothing ...and Richardson (an excellent buy by all accounts) was the victim of a freak training accident, and a " re-signed " Connolly is a fearful prospect for many defences. So where's the problem? There are a few storms in teacups at the moment...media photos, £3 booking fees and a chairman who doesn't tremble at the writings of sarcastic journalism, etc ..which are all part of a changing picture. During my long time as a fan, I've seen many bad years and sometimes... really bad football, but we cheered to encourage the team not boo them.To anyone who thinks they need to pay money and then look to boo the first bad pass..my advice ..STAY AWAY . The team doesn't need you ! David, a lot of people have had their noses put out of joint as their perks have been taken away. That has made them turn against the club. I saw on South Today when the installment plan was taken away a fan being interviewed and how bad it was. He was in his normal place saturday (am delighted about that) he obviously got off his a### and found another way to get his S/T. Whether he is anti NC I dont know but he got on with it. We have always had fans like myself who are basically club first and accept what has to be done and then another swathe who are looking for any reason to have a go. The fanbase is always going to be important to our success this season, last season we were superb as we were coming from adversity, this season the expectations are going to be a monkey on our backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 I agree with the stay away comments, BUT as I've posted many many times. Saints fans are NEVER happy unless they are moaning. I've heard abuse and boos shouted at John Sydenham, Terry Paine, Alan Ball, Steve Williams, Frankie Benali, and even MLT in my regular days at the Dell. Someone on a previous thread was talking about someone giving Lambert stick. For some reason, a small but vocal minority of Saints fans seem to get a kick out of being depressed or negative. It hasn't gone away after a great season and a cup win, and it hasn't gone away after we've been made favourites for the League. You don't have to be happy clappy and you don't need to be a MoG, for some people Life just isn't fun and we seem to attract a lot of the latter. Perhaps it's something in the water? Who knows, No amount of debating will change the mind-set, they'll still be moaning when we challenge for the Champions League, it's how they live their lives unfortunately. Such a waste. It's quite easy to be worried about the lack of signings and the potential implications OFF the pitch, I like others am. But when it comes to match day - FFS some people just won't be happy unless they can moan about us losing This...I couldn't inhabit the negative world of some posters. Whilst I'm sometimes in despair over performances, occasionally think I could have picked a better team than the one out there etc my fun is in supporting...if I knew how to underline I'd underline the words fun & supporting. End of sermon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 What a fantastic interview. Absolutely right about the crowd. Fair play to everyone in Northam stand second half cos you pulled it out of the bag big style. Sounded great from itchen. Nice one pardew. Think I love you after that interview. I think the Northam were excellent and, along with the Kingsland, moved the rest of the ground to start singing. Sitting in the Chapel I was really pleased that the group up in Block 21 (?) managed to get us going as well! A brilliant atmosphere and my son is still talking about it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindsorSaint Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 I've heard abuse and boos shouted at John Sydenham, Terry Paine, Alan Ball, Steve Williams, Frankie Benali, and even MLT in my regular days at the Dell. I don't believe that!!! Not Terry!!!! I remember one time when we were awful, and TP not having a good game (against West Ham, I think, and 3-0 down before half time), and Ted Bates was going to take TP off - and he headed the ball! We went on to draw 3-3... WS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 here are my contemporaneous notes from AP's interview: Pardew: crowd were jittery and negative...first 2 games this season unlike last year in terms of crowd...teams will raise their game against us this season as we're favourites.. If we are going to be negative in the stadium, it will spread to the team...our passes were jeered unless they were brilliant...we need the stadium right behind us or we're not going to be able to do it...as it happened, crowd got behind us from start of 2nd half, which helped my teamtalk. Lallana, Puncheon and Lambert are big, big players...like taking Gerrard and Torres out of Liverpool makes them very ordinary. Cliche that players need a good pre-season under their belt, one more game and Adam will be up to speed - players in this modern era just need to be toned. He's lacking a bit of that, as are Rickie and Punch. Oxlade-Chamberlain merited his place because he's shown pace and "Antonio isn't here" but I hope there will be competition for that soon. The Bournemouth supporters, team and manager were fantastic - Howe's tactics and players confused me. They can do well in League One. Didn't really want to put Lambert on, but felt he needed ten minutes to make it possible for him to play on Saturday. I'm going to go all Alpine here for a second, and I hope this is just a slip of the tongue as AP's trying to award some platitudes, but I'm a bit concerned if its apparently so easy for us to get bamboozled at home by the likes of Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 Some selective memories going on here. I can clearly remember choruses of "what a load of rubbish" ringing around The Dell as a nipper / teenager / young man. All I ever want from my team is effort. I'll forgive lack of ability and losing if the players make the effort, which isn't to much to ask. "Support" is a two way street and many a time our support has been let down by lack of effort/commitment by the players (Blackburn away in the relegation season springs readily to mind, not to mention fratton park) so it's no wonder so many are cynical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 I don't believe that!!! Not Terry!!!! I remember one time when we were awful, and TP not having a good game (against West Ham, I think, and 3-0 down before half time), and Ted Bates was going to take TP off - and he headed the ball! We went on to draw 3-3... WS Get off Paine you're past it you w*nker from Under the West Stand (Gawd knows when but towards the end of his career) Feck off Ball you're an embarrasment and a great deal more in the 5-5 draw with Coventry Get him off he's useless plus boos when he touched the ball - Benali - most matches after another pass went astray Williams - booed regularly when another mazy run and delay of the pass caused him to lose possession, and a round of cheers at the news he'd gone to Arsenil I could continue but... Meanwhile on the tactics & AP front... Merrington DID compliment AP words to the effect "made the change at Half time, tweaked the formation and we saw an instant improvement" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 Sitting in the Chapel I was really pleased that the group up in Block 21 (?) managed to get us going as well! No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 Sorry, I think its far too easy to blame the supporters. How were the supporters responsible for the team being totally sh*t against Plymouth in the 2nd half right from the start ? And if the team arent toned and there isnt enough competition for places, thats his fault. TBH Alps, I am not one of those who subscribe to the theory that you are just a troll or WUM. I always think of you as a miserableoldgit (!) - a glass half empty type, if you will, but I have to say the your post here sticks out like a sore thumb, on what is generally a positive and constructive thread - for a change. Can you REALLY see no positives at all in the the teams performances and AP`s management? Or is it REALLY all doom and gloom in your world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 It's easy to say this after a victory. Support is a two way thing, I thought we looked good 1st half vs Plymouth but 2nd half was not acceptable IMO. The team have to lift the fans & vice versa. Exactly what I was saying to the old man last night. We were saying how dead the atmosphere was and that the team needed to do something to get some songs going. When they started trying things and knocking the ball around, the confidence in the fans grew (like it did Saturday in the first half) and us fans responded to this with applause and singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 here are my contemporaneous notes from AP's interview: Pardew: crowd were jittery and negative...first 2 games this season unlike last year in terms of crowd...teams will raise their game against us this season as we're favourites.. If we are going to be negative in the stadium, it will spread to the team...our passes were jeered unless they were brilliant...we need the stadium right behind us or we're not going to be able to do it...as it happened, crowd got behind us from start of 2nd half, which helped my teamtalk. Lallana, Puncheon and Lambert are big, big players...like taking Gerrard and Torres out of Liverpool makes them very ordinary. Cliche that players need a good pre-season under their belt, one more game and Adam will be up to speed - players in this modern era just need to be toned. He's lacking a bit of that, as are Rickie and Punch. Oxlade-Chamberlain merited his place because he's shown pace and "Antonio isn't here" but I hope there will be competition for that soon. The Bournemouth supporters, team and manager were fantastic - Howe's tactics and players confused me. They can do well in League One. Didn't really want to put Lambert on, but felt he needed ten minutes to make it possible for him to play on Saturday. A good thread and post and so very true. It was pathetic the way we - as a crowd of supporters - fell silent after Plymouth's first goal. We on this site so often project ourselves (as a small sample of Saints supporters) as a bunch of faint-hearted whinging moaners who cannot stomach a challenge. We are above ourselves when we expect everything to go perfectly all the time. W,e together with the players, have got to grist away when we are behind if we want to claw out those vital points against frustrating teams that pack their goalmouth and play for lucky goals. There are many times when the players need our vocal support - not stunned silence. The most humiliating chant from opposition supporters is 'You're not singing any more!' Fair play to Northam who do their bit, but those of us in other parts of the ground need to be encouraging those around us to shout and chant more. As a body could we do more in the stands to rouse more noise from those around us? Well, done Pardue, keep saying it as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 11 August, 2010 Share Posted 11 August, 2010 Get off Paine you're past it you w*nker from Under the West Stand (Gawd knows when but towards the end of his career) Feck off Ball you're an embarrasment and a great deal more in the 5-5 draw with Coventry Get him off he's useless plus boos when he touched the ball - Benali - most matches after another pass went astray Williams - booed regularly when another mazy run and delay of the pass caused him to lose possession, and a round of cheers at the news he'd gone to Arsenil I could continue but... Meanwhile on the tactics & AP front... Merrington DID compliment AP words to the effect "made the change at Half time, tweaked the formation and we saw an instant improvement" To be fair, Benali was crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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