Le Fondre - No Goal & J Rod Should Have Been Sent Off

[Gemmel]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2305490/Adam-Le-Fondre-says-Jay-Rodriguez-sent-off.html

 

I suppose we should be surprised about footballers coming out with daft comments, but this one has really got to me.

 

I'd assume he would have watched the replays, in which case he would know, it was a perfectly good goal and no foul.

 

I think the ref did a great job with it as there are plenty that would have blown up in favour of the goalie and over protecting them, but to whinge about it after the event, when the TV shows it as it was, makes him look like a knob

[Mowgli]

I don't think it is that daft a comment. The incident warranted some debate. Le Fondre must have seen it on TV as he was nowhere near the incident.

 

He's right in the sense that if you go studs up in the middle of the pitch then the intent warrants a red card irrespective of whether contact is made. The difference here was that he was using the sole of his boot to bring the ball down away from the keeper and he did that quite successfully before the goalkeeper got there. As others have said, the goal keeper looked very nervous coming out and so slow he was never really in danger from the studs. A perfectly time tackle IMO.

[Danish Saint]

Reading the comments section, there's absolutely no support for his claim.

 

Sour grapes and all that.

[saints-cris]

Embarrassing from him, none of the Reading players around the incident seemed to mind. Rodriguez wanted it more, case closed.

[sussexsaint]

Le Fondre is tit shocker

[Saint Martini]

If another player has possesion of. The ball and you go in like that you can expect to be booked. But Federici didn't have the ball, in fact he didn't get close until after Rodriguez played the ball with his studs. Federici was caught on the follow through by Jay-Rods legs. If Federici gets to the ball first and Jay-Rod flies in like that he can go for an early shower.

[LostBoys]

Who cares what he thinks - he was very poor on Saturday

[jjsaint]

Amazing player and football brain. Sign him up immediately (someone has to shine JRod's boots)

[Miltonaggro]

Not a foul, and if you watch their keeper, he bottles it and then briefly attempts to fein injury in an attempt to 'recover' the situation. Le Fondre what a class act at a class club...

[oldskoolsi]

Lawro did a good piece on comparing the keepers on MOTD. Their keeper bottled it and in a similar situation Boruc dived in to get the ball, knowing he might well get hurt.

[Andre]

Sent off?! I mean... it's not even a foul, but even if it is it's not worth a yellow let alone a red!

[Miltonaggro]

Lawro did a good piece on comparing the keepers on MOTD. Their keeper bottled it and in a similar situation Boruc dived in to get the ball, knowing he might well get hurt.

 

Boruc was on that like it was a bottle of vodka on a desert island. What a great keeper!...

[tajjuk]

Silly comment, keeper didn't have the ball so it's not a studs up challenge, pretty much every pundit I have seen has said that it's a good goal and Federici bottled it. Had he gone down with his hands then he might have got the foul but he stands up and is in no danger.

[AussieDog]

...and if that goal had been scored by LeFondre against Boruc would you have still thought the same way? lol

[Wurzel]

Keeper bottled it and never got close to the ball. As did the player (may have be Le Fondre) who allowed Boruc to get to his second "juggle" under no pressure when even a slight challenge may have won the ball or stopped him reaching it.. Lack of commitment like that from players is why they are going down.

[ericofarabia]

...and if that goal had been scored by LeFondre against Boruc would you have still thought the same way? lol

 

Le Fondler, or even J Rod wouldn't have scored if he'd been up against Boruc - FACT

 

Semi Freddo you soft tart watch at 0.36, 1.10, 1.17 and 1.40 to see how it should be done.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTAgcFbKoeM

[Turkish]

Lawro did a good piece on comparing the keepers on MOTD. Their keeper bottled it and in a similar situation Boruc dived in to get the ball, knowing he might well get hurt.

 

This cant be true. He's a dinosaur, a terrible pundit who doesn't know what he's on about.

[ericofarabia]

This cant be true. He's a dinosaur, a terrible pundit who doesn't know what he's on about.

 

A rare lucid moment ?

[Saint_clark]

What an idiot.

[KelvinsRightGlove]

Decent poacher, but makes himself look silly with this comment.

 

Said on the match thread at the time, Boruc made Federici look silly, and a bit of a coward.

 

MOTD2 basically said the same thing last night, and showed a comparison of the two. They both also agreed that it was no way even a foul, let alone sending off.

 

But then again, the Beeb do hate us, so it's probably irrelevant.

[Bearsy]

I've been tweeting Federici all weekend, being like "Yo, Federer... BWAAAARK!". He's blocked me now tho #bottlejob

[Appy]

Time for the scrote to **** off to the Championship.

[Kingsland Codger]

Alternatively, had a goal not been scored, Saint should have been awarded a penalty and Federici a red card for clattering into Jay Rod after Jay rod had played the ball.

[VectisSaint]

This cant be true. He's a dinosaur, a terrible pundit who doesn't know what he's on about.

Even dinosaurs have a small brain. It only needed a small brain to see this wasn't a foul, so even the slug balancer could see it.

[david in sweden]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2305490/Adam-Le-Fondre-says-Jay-Rodriguez-sent-off.html

 

I suppose we should be surprised about footballers coming out with daft comments, but this one has really got to me.

 

I'd assume he would have watched the replays, in which case he would know, it was a perfectly good goal and no foul.

 

I think the ref did a great job with it as there are plenty that would have blown up in favour of the goalie and over protecting them, but to whinge about it after the event, when the TV shows it as it was, makes him look like a knob

 

 

if he's seen the goal replayed a few times, as many of us have, he'll see that JayRod gets ball-contact before the goalie gets to him. He was very slow off the mark.

 

and as for Le Fondre...if he doesn't want to comment about the goal that he may have scored with his hand....or the one he scored even though he was offside.then he should keep quiet.

[SuperMikey]

Jay Rod went in high to the challenge, but as they showed on MOTD he corrected his feet when he made contact with the ball to ensure no foul. Like everyone else has said, he wanted it more than Federici did!

 

Le Fondre is a scrote anyway, he's just p!ssed off because he missed a sitter before we scored.

[Whitey Grandad]

He's just jealous.

[Viking Warrior]

Le Fondre what a ***** . There was next to no contact on the keeper . Oh didn't me Fondre miss a sitter ?

[saints-cris]

Would have thought as a striker he'd slightly understand, but no. Just bitter.

[Window Cleaner]

 

Le Fondre is a scrote anyway, he's just p!ssed off because he missed a sitter before we scored.

 

And that he'll be playing in the NPC again next season. Can't remember if it was ALF but there was virtually the same situation in the Saints goal in the second half,high foot and all except that Artur didn't give a f*ck and got the ball before the striker.

Edited 8 April, 2013 by Window Cleaner

[Restark19]

Anyone who thinks JRod should have been sent off is a f'king moron

[Bucks Saint]

And that he'll be playing in the NPC again next season. Can't remember if it was ALF but there was virtually the same situation in the Saints goal in the second half,high foot and all except that Artur didn't give a f*ck and got the ball before the striker.

 

Agreed, dont know which player it was, but Boruc was brave and focused, got there first, then got a kick in the head for his trouble, and still held onto the ball.

[skintsaint]

 

His foot isnt high when near the keeper, there is another angle from further round the side which shows its not studs up near the keeper.

 

If it was against Saints I would be ****ed about the keeper rather than the debatable tackling decision.

[danner]

I was square on and had a great view, i expected the ref to blow for a foul as normally the keeper gets protected and all that but when i looked at the replay thought it wasn't a foul.

[Whitey Grandad]

Why is the keeper going for the ball with his hands in that photo?

[lifeintheslowlane]

Not worthy of comment...ludicrous from a Reading team that bottled it.

[Window Cleaner]

Not worthy of comment...ludicrous from a Reading team that bottled it.

 

I don't think that they bottled it...they're just not very good.

[Bucks Saint]

Patrick Barclay in the Standard tonight - calling for a panel of former refs to consider controversial decisions after each weekend:

 

"Today, for example, they could look at Southampton's first goal at Reading. Allowing it, after Jay Rodriguez had stabbed his studs almost into Adam Federici's face, was an insult to the goalkeeper"

 

WTF?! This guy, who normally writes fairly sensible stuff, does not even have the defence of being part of the Reading team while coming out with this utter sh1te. Never , ever, write about football again pal

[Andre]

his studs were literally at knee level, and that was with federici bending down... f*cking moron journos just need to watch the tape

[RinNY]

Patrick Barclay in the Standard tonight - calling for a panel of former refs to consider controversial decisions after each weekend:

 

"Today, for example, they could look at Southampton's first goal at Reading. Allowing it, after Jay Rodriguez had stabbed his studs almost into Adam Federici's face, was an insult to the goalkeeper"

 

WTF?! This guy, who normally writes fairly sensible stuff, does not even have the defence of being part of the Reading team while coming out with this utter sh1te. Never , ever, write about football again pal

 

 

That really is appalling rubbish, isn't it? JRod's studs were never anywhere near Federici's face: he was holding his face after the collision because he took an elbow from the Reading defender running in, nothing to do with JRod. Basically, the attacker has just as much right to go for that ball as does the goalie. If anything, since JRod got to the ball first and knocked it past the goalie, it might have been a foul on Federici for taking JRod out after the ball was past him, if it hadn't gone into the goal that is. As for the studs up thing: JRod never had his foot much higher than knee level (which is hardly high), and if the studs were showing, that's inevitable when you raise your foot. As the pic posted above shows, his foot was back down, having made contact with the ball, before Federici got to him; his foot never made contact with Federici at all, and the three way collision -- between JRod, Federici, and a Reading defender -- was just the inevitable result of players going for the ball. Once JRod got to it first and put it through the goalie's legs, there was never any question of a foul. Sheer nonsense from those who argue that there was: if goalies cannot be bumped into at all without a foul being given, then half the goals scored in football would get chalked off!

[Bananaman]

I literally cannot believe this goal is up for debate, and I would feel that way if we had conceded it too.

[Picard]

Wasn't there a handball involved for one of his goals against Newcastle?

[lordswoodsaints]

The keeper wasn't brave enough and jay was......simple as that really

[Andy Durman]

Sorry but Le Fondre is not wrong. I recorded the game in Austria and we've looked at it many times. Jay had his studs up and using the letter of the law this is a red. I thought the goal should have been disallowed on seeing the replays. The thing is that when you see it in real time it looks a goal and the referee did not give a foul so history shows it was a goal. If the goalie had have done a Boruc I think he could have been injured. Therefore it was a dangerous tackle.

 

What goes around comes around. It was our turn to have a decision go for us.

 

If anybody watches the replay and is honest then they must have sympathy for Adkins.

Edited 8 April, 2013 by Andy Durman

[landford.saint]

Sorry but Le Fondre is not wrong. I recorded the game in Austria and we've looked at it many times. Jay had his studs up and using the letter of the law this is a red. I thought the goal should have been disallowed on seeing the replays. The thing is that when you see it in real time it looks a goal and the referee did not give a foul so history shows it was a goal. If the goalie had have done a Boruc I think he could have been injured. Therefore it was a dangerous tackle.

 

What goes around comes around. It was our turn to have a decision go for us.

 

If anybody watches the replay and is honest then they must have sympathy for Adkins.

 

Do they show a different version of the match in Austria. I know they have a different version of 20th century history, so perhaps they do in sport as well.

[Bucks Saint]

Sorry but Le Fondre is not wrong. I recorded the game in Austria and we've looked at it many times. Jay had his studs up and using the letter of the law this is a red. I thought the goal should have been disallowed on seeing the replays. The thing is that when you see it in real time it looks a goal and the referee did not give a foul so history shows it was a goal. If the goalie had have done a Boruc I think he could have been injured. Therefore it was a dangerous tackle.

 

What goes around comes around. It was our turn to have a decision go for us.

 

If anybody watches the replay and is honest then they must have sympathy for Adkins.

 

We? Reading have plastic fans in Cambridge? Utter tosh. As spelt out on here, on the website article comments, by the MOTD commentator, by Alan Shearer and by Mark Lawrenson, this was never a foul. His foot was never above knee height, he got the ball well before any connection with the stuttering keeper, only caught his legs and then Federici was caught by his own defender. Surprised that you managed to miss all that.

 

If he had done a Boruc (i.e. make a decent attempt to get to the ball first) he might have been injured, so that makes it a dangerous tackle? Wow. If Jay Rod had thrown himself into a diving header, he might have been hurt, so the keeper should have been sent off, right?

[L1Minus10]

Lets see... J-rod barely touched their keeper whereas le Fondre kicked Boruc full in the head. **** off back to the Championship where you belong you little scrote.

[paulwantsapint]

Saw the title & thought le fondre was being harsh on himself over the miss

 

Glad that jay rod was brave enough to go for the ball knowing he should have been clattered by the keeper

[Appy]

Sorry but Le Fondre is not wrong. I recorded the game in Austria and we've looked at it many times. Jay had his studs up and using the letter of the law this is a red. I thought the goal should have been disallowed on seeing the replays. The thing is that when you see it in real time it looks a goal and the referee did not give a foul so history shows it was a goal. If the goalie had have done a Boruc I think he could have been injured. Therefore it was a dangerous tackle.

 

What goes around comes around. It was our turn to have a decision go for us.

 

If anybody watches the replay and is honest then they must have sympathy for Adkins.

 

Sorry, you're wrong.

[Badger]

I remember the days when we were linked with signing Le Fondre (£350,000 eventually) rather than Rodriguez, England U21 for £6m.

Le Fondre probably remembers those days as well.

So, no reason to be bitter, other than losing.