washsaint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Very early days still but......... - RK looks like our best manager since Lawrie Mac already. Highly articulate, does not suffer fools gladly and has Saints fighting for everything - Just got only our 3rd ever win over Arsenal at Arsenal - We have now won 2 away games after coming from behind: I cannot remember another season when we have been able to do that - Team is still bedding in but we still look threatening and with pace and trickery from the wings - RK has a Plan B, C, D and E unlike Pochettino! - Incredible depth in defence with 2 quality players for every position. Good luck keeping them all happy! - Schneiderlin appears to be content and happy here again (for now) - When Mane gets up to speed and ROdriguez gets fit we will be frighteningly good up front and will scare teams to death - Spirit in the camp seems superb: from the Board all the way down - Money in the bank to spend if needed in January Truly a great time to be a Saints fan right now - particularly sweet after the start to the summer! Meltdown, what meltdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Now calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 This should wait until Feb 1/2015 or the end of the season. But so far so good hope it continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Very early days still but......... - RK looks like our best manager since Lawrie Mac already. Highly articulate, does not suffer fools gladly and has Saints fighting for everything - Just got only our 3rd ever win over Arsenal at Arsenal - We have now won 2 away games after coming from behind: I cannot remember another season when we have been able to do that - Team is still bedding in but we still look threatening and with pace and trickery from the wings - RK has a Plan B, C, D and E unlike Pochettino! - Incredible depth in defence with 2 quality players for every position. Good luck keeping them all happy! - Schneiderlin appears to be content and happy here again (for now) - When Mane gets up to speed and ROdriguez gets fit we will be frighteningly good up front and will scare teams to death - Spirit in the camp seems superb: from the Board all the way down - Money in the bank to spend if needed in January Truly a great time to be a Saints fan right now - particularly sweet after the start to the summer! Meltdown, what meltdown? You're getting carried away, still a long, long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Malvo Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 This has set it up nicely for a 1-0 loss to QPR then! :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 (edited) We're doing ok but were some way off a top 4 club. Edited 24 September, 2014 by Whitey Grandad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Were doing ok but were some way off a top 4 club. You are probably right, but right now we can't be sure. On the other hand, I am confident we are some way off a top 3 club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Were doing ok but were some way off a top 4 club. Agreed, but we're closer than we were last year, which was closer than we were the year before that, which was ... I'm pretty sure that Koeman sees some form of European qualification as the most important part of keeping this squad together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 us fans should learn from the club, lets do things quietly(except match days, not shout how good we are and just keep winning. football has a habit of smacking you between the eyes when least expected. so lets win the QPR game and move to the next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Keep it in the back of your mind and then in April 2015 you can say "told you so" with a quote from this post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Lets see how we get on in December first.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Very early to judge Koeman. Remember Laudrup had a whole season where he looked good before it all fell apart. Fairly easy to build on someone else's success, a different job to maintain it for several years. Agree he looks promising but his managerial record is fairly mixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 The depth in our squad now is very exciting however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Very early to judge Koeman. Remember Laudrup had a whole season where he looked good before it all fell apart. Fairly easy to build on someone else's success, a different job to maintain it for several years. Agree he looks promising but his managerial record is fairly mixed But he's not built on anyone's success, really. This is brand new, he's done it from almost scratch. He's not built on anything, just a blank canvas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 And to top all of that Clare Balding is a Saints fan!!! ....can life get any better. Like Washsaint, I am excited by the start we have had but, early days so I temper my excitement with a huge amount of caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 But he's not built on anyone's success, really. This is brand new, he's done it from almost scratch. He's not built on anything, just a blank canvas. There has been some player changes and he has modified the tactics a little, but he still joined a healthy club with a passing ethos embedded at all levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 It looks good, but as has been pointed out, we had more points from these matches last season. We're also partly judging the team on a match won against ten men and a win against a terrible Newcastle side. It's simply too early to tell much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Very early to judge Koeman. Remember Laudrup had a whole season where he looked good before it all fell apart. Fairly easy to build on someone else's success, a different job to maintain it for several years. Agree he looks promising but his managerial record is fairly mixed Whilst I don't disagree that Koeman can't be judged yet and this could all be a very successful case of "new manager syndrome", you really can't state that this success is built on the back of poch's team... Or did I miss the mass exodus and unsettling that went on over the summer? We know longer have Lallana, Lambert or Lovren, or Shaw!! And we sold Chambers who played half the games under him. Not sure if you are trolling with that comment? However you want to put it, Koeman/board have basically dismantled Poch's want-aways and Koeman has built his very own team from the ashes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 (edited) Whilst I don't disagree that Koeman can't be judged yet and this could all be a very successful case of "new manager syndrome", you really can't state that this success is built on the back of poch's team... Or did I miss the mass exodus and unsettling that went on over the summer? We know longer have Lallana, Lambert or Lovren, or Shaw!! And we sold Chambers who played half the games under him. Not sure if you are trolling with that comment? However you want to put it, Koeman/board have basically dismantled Poch's want-aways and Koeman has built his very own team from the ashes! I agree he's done a good job so far. But let's not compare him to Lawrie Mac is all I'm saying. You surely can't deny that there was an ethos of hard work and a slick passing game already in place? Yes there was work to be done to rebuild the squad and he plus the board did a good job of it. Edited 24 September, 2014 by Ex Lion Tamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Heart says yes, cos I wear rose tinted and striped specs. Head says top 7 will be the same as last year, and the year before that. Having said that, that might be overly pessimistic. Everton seem to not be shipping in a horrendous number of goals, so maybe that is a place up for grabs. Man Utd haven't started yet, and their defence seems to be looking very vulnerable. Liverpool's defence is also looking weak and they don't seem to be gelling very well. Spurs haven't got going yet, and maybe they never will take to MPs methods. We just need to plug on and avoid the injuries. I am of the school were you build your team from your defence first, and I think that this year it looks better. Gardos looks good. Toby looks good. Fonte looks good. Bertrand looks good. Clyne looks good. Targett looks good. Yoshi looks good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 I am of the school were you build your team from your defence first, and I think that this year it looks better. Gardos looks good. Toby looks good. Fonte looks good. Bertrand looks good. Clyne looks good. Targett looks good. Yoshi looks good enough. What? no mention of our goallie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 No doubting we've made a strong start but I wouldn't get too excited just yet. We haven't beaten anyone properly decent yet, Newcastle and West Ham were awful, Swansea had nothing when Bony got s/o and Arsenal had their preschool team in defence last night. Having said that, the though of this team with Mane and J Rod is making me a little bit moist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Very early days still but......... - Incredible depth in defence with 2 quality players for every position. Good luck keeping them all happy! We will not be on the verge of anything great while we have such a paper thin squad. We do not have 2 quality players in every position in defence. Backup RB? Assume that's Toby, which is great when he is injured. Backup LB is Targett, have to say that is probably better than last season, but I think you are depending a lot on a youngster there who is not fully proven (I think Bertrand is as good as Shaw was last season so no issues there). Then we have the GK situation (which is part of defence). Same lack of quality backup as last season now that Boruc has been shipped out. Unless we are incredibly incredibly lucky, we will not avoid an injury/suspension crisis at some point just like last season and once a few of our 1st XI are not available we will struggle. Just like last season that will most likely happen when the really hard games come along early mid season. JRod is out till Xmas at least, now JWP is also out to Xmas, Toby and Yoshi are both currently injured, though it looks short-term. Gallagher still nowhere to be seen. We have 6 players out on loan, our squad is no stronger in depth than last season. No doubt though that we have a great manager and great 1st XI (or 1st XV lets say). Exciting times, because the style of play is better than under Poch, but don't get carried away, there is still an elephant in the room, just like there was last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Granted it’s early days and football has a habit of kicking you in the balls when you’re least expecting it, nevertheless, right at this moment, I’m feeling extremely optimistic about the future of our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 We are on the verge, but then we were this time last season too. I think the real test now is whether we can win games against the top 6 or 7 sides, as our record against them last season was poor. Ultimately, we could end up hitting that glass ceiling again, would need to finish above say Everton and Spurs to try and break through it. Unlikely, but not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 The issue we had last year was that teams sussed out our game as the season went on, some were still unstuck by it...but ultimately a lot had ideas of how to stop it, and we didn't seen to have any alternative. We were also handcuffed by having to bring Jos and Gazaniga into the side during the November/December run (I think) and that did affect us. We obviously aren't going to stay in the top 4, but I feel we now have a stronger overall squad to avoid such a collapse as we had last December. We are obviously riding a wave at the mo, we will come crashing down at some point....but hopefully the strength of the squad this year ensures that the crash isn't too hard and we can recover quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 You are probably right, but right now we can't be sure. On the other hand, I am confident we are some way off a top 3 club. Technically we're closer to the team in 3rd than the one in 4th at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 But he's not built on anyone's success, really. This is brand new, he's done it from almost scratch. He's not built on anything, just a blank canvas. he really hasn't though, has he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 he really hasn't though, has he Why the condescending retort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Why the condescending retort? ok, fair point. but lets not get carried away. remember our place and what the previous chairman thought we could do that was utterly poo poo'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 When we look back on this era, I mean from some point in the distant future when it's gone a bit pear shaped and we end up back in the Championship or whatever, I want at least a cup win to show for it pls! Is that too much to ask? One cup win pls & brief European jaunt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stug76 Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 When we look back on this era, I mean from some point in the distant future when it's gone a bit pear shaped and we end up back in the Championship or whatever, I want at least a cup win to show for it pls! Is that too much to ask? One cup win pls & brief European jaunt! Yeah, a cup win and another cup final and I'd like to play a big Italian team in Europe, someone like Milan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Yeah, a cup win and another cup final and I'd like to play a big Italian team in Europe, someone like Milan. Lol I would take almost anything if that happened! I mean even if we ended up in league 2 with tesco owning the ground and everyone had to stump up £1000 just to cover Shane Longs back-pay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 I have a good feeling about Keoman, he's a winner. He's gonna want something in the trophy cabinet unlike that Italian dwarf and his rat eyed Argie mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 We have made a very good start and have 10 points, only 30 for the golden 40 point mark and probable survival. That is all that matters, anything else is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Very early to judge Koeman. Remember Laudrup had a whole season where he looked good before it all fell apart. Fairly easy to build on someone else's success, a different job to maintain it for several years. Agree he looks promising but his managerial record is fairly mixed Except in this case the house of success he had inherited had had it's foundations stolen......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 We have made a very good start and have 10 points, only 30 for the golden 40 point mark and probable survival. That is all that matters, anything else is a bonus. It only gets more and more funny every time you post this stuff. Don't ever stop, will you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 It only gets more and more funny every time you post this stuff. Don't ever stop, will you? Actually brings a smile to my face and I'm a miserable git. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 us fans should learn from the club, lets do things quietly(except match days, not shout how good we are and just keep winning. football has a habit of smacking you between the eyes when least expected. so lets win the QPR game and move to the next Well said. Anyone getting carried away is either a complete din or a glutton for punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stug76 Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Well said. Anyone getting carried away is either a complete din or a glutton for punishment. Are you kidding me???? If you can't get carried away now, you probably never will. We're second in the league with the best team in a generation, paying great football. It might not last forever but that's probably more of a reason to enjoy the ride because when/if we go on a bad run and have a few injuries it's not going to be anywhere near as much fun looking at the table. If it's realism you want, go read an encyclopedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 We have made a very good start and have 10 points, only 30 for the golden 40 point mark and probable survival. That is all that matters, anything else is a bonus. Like the promising start to the season. The football/soccer bit. Going quite well at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Given the changes, Koeman seems to be pulling things together better than I could have hoped for. I'd say we're looking very good indeed. Very, very good. Great to be a Saints fan right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Well said. Anyone getting carried away is either a complete din or a glutton for punishment. I know what you're saying but for me it's the highs and lows. Don't think I fully appreciated some of our short term achievement's in the past and just waited for the fall. Through the last decade there's been a fair share of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 24 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 24 September, 2014 If you can't enjoy the good times and are just waiting for the down times to occur then I feel sorry for you. Life is way too short and enjoy every minute - you never know if it will be your last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 If you can't enjoy the good times and are just waiting for the down times to occur then I feel sorry for you. Life is way too short and enjoy every minute - you never know if it will be your last. Who isn't enjoying the good times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 If you can't enjoy the good times and are just waiting for the down times to occur then I feel sorry for you. Life is way too short and enjoy every minute - you never know if it will be your last. Pretty sure everyone is made up at our start and is loving every minute. I certainly am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Neel Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 Great start, and i do agree that we have a better squad than last season, but its way too early to get a couple of vertebrae removed. I also dont really know if Koeman has a plan B, let alone Plan C,D or E. We seem to be playing plan A all the time, but with different levels of competency. Plan A comprises get the ball in midfield, get it out wide, and stick in a cross. Its working very well, but i dont think its rocket science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 24 September, 2014 Share Posted 24 September, 2014 I have a good feeling about Keoman, he's a winner. He's gonna want something in the trophy cabinet unlike that Italian dwarf and his rat eyed Argie mate. LOL just spat beer on the monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 25 September, 2014 Share Posted 25 September, 2014 Getting a bit carried away saying Koeman has a plan A, B, C, D etc etc. No evidence of that - nor is there ever any likely to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 25 September, 2014 Share Posted 25 September, 2014 Yes madly optimistic and already in love with Ronald although slightly worried QPR at home seems too good to be true. Oh and Swansea first half but part from that has been superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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