hypochondriac Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 I can't help but think of the pirates of penzance when discussing this chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 If this is true it will be another techically good, young International signed at a very good price.. Good work.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Good news, if true. Also sends a bit of a message to Clyne that he's not irreplaceable whether or not Cedric joins as a replacement or as competition. At the reported price, he could be either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/13337336.Southampton_close_in_on_second_summer_signing/?ref=fbpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Did he play in the Italy game last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Did he play in the Italy game last night? Came on in the 2nd half I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Did he play in the Italy game last night? No he didn't. Apparently you stand little chance of getting in the side unless you play for one of the EPL clubs. Their manager is virtually forcing him to come and play in the Premier League and with Jose tapping him up for us this should happen very soon. It should also be noted that the Portuguese manager is a sh*t dinasour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 No he didn't. Apparently you stand little chance of getting in the side unless you play for one of the EPL clubs. Their manager is virtually forcing him to come and play in the Premier League and with Jose tapping him up for us this should happen very soon. It should also be noted that the Portuguese manager is a sh*t dinasour. Yes he did, came on at half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Yes he did, came on at half time. I don't care whether he did or not mate, I had no idea either way. I was just attempting an ironic post although you would have had to have read my posts in the Hodgson/Clyne thread. Sounds like a good signing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 No he didn't. Apparently you stand little chance of getting in the side unless you play for one of the EPL clubs. Their manager is virtually forcing him to come and play in the Premier League and with Jose tapping him up for us this should happen very soon. It should also be noted that the Portuguese manager is a sh*t dinasour. Lol. It will be interesting though if he still gets picked for the national side once he isnt playing for Sporting Lisbon and instead is at the backwater of Southampton. It took Fonte ages to break in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Lol. It will be interesting though if he still gets picked for the national side once he isnt playing for Sporting Lisbon and instead is at the backwater of Southampton. It took Fonte ages to break in Did it take Fonte that long? How long had he been a regular starter for a Prem team before being picked? 18 months I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Did it take Fonte that long? How long had he been a regular starter for a Prem team before being picked? 18 months I think. *Please reset your sarcasm filter and reload page.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 When will we ever learn to do our transfer business early? Too early if you ask me. By the time the season comes around, the buzz of Ocean Village and the thrill of spotting your first New Forest pony has long worn off. Not to mention paying someone whilst they are on holiday. Appalling strategy all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Sporting Lisbon forum thread, for those who care: http://www.forumscp.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=42qps76t01a2891oosrhfsl9v7&topic=11909.msg3645895#new Some interesting discussions. They seem pretty certain its going to happen from various sources out there - lots of people wishing him success as if he's already gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Too early if you ask me. By the time the season comes around, the buzz of Ocean Village and the thrill of spotting your first New Forest pony has long worn off. Not to mention paying someone whilst they are on holiday. Appalling strategy all round. Also sign players too early and you only get to choose from the ones who aren't wanted by the bigger clubs, who are after the best available players. Wait until the big clubs have bought all their first choice players and then you can go after all the remaining good ones who have had their ambitions of playing for the glory teams thwarted and then we are the next level down in the PL. Once the glory teams are out of the equation, then the price will be lower too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 If you say so, Eds, it's all in Portuguese, so could be saying anything to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 If you say so, Eds, it's all in Portuguese, so could be saying anything to me. They're actually saying its a straight swap fonte for cedric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 But how good is he? Really? Is as good as Clyne, or back up what s the stitu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Did it take Fonte that long? How long had he been a regular starter for a Prem team before being picked? 18 months I think. 2 years. And he isn't first choice as he was on the bench for the qualifier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Sporting Lisbon forum thread, for those who care: http://www.forumscp.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=42qps76t01a2891oosrhfsl9v7&topic=11909.msg3645895#new Some interesting discussions. They seem pretty certain its going to happen from various sources out there - lots of people wishing him success as if he's already gone If it goes through and is "undisclosed", then I suspect that that would be at the request of Sorting and that it will be the lower end of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 If it goes through and is "undisclosed", then I suspect that that would be at the request of Sorting and that it will be the lower end of things. Undisclosed has been the Southampton standard for transfers since the takeover to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 If it goes through and is "undisclosed", then I suspect that that would be at the request of Sorting and that it will be the lower end of things. I don't think Saints have revealed the value of any transfer under Liebherr ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 (edited) I will take your word on that. It just seemed that we have with, for example, Gardos Pelle Tadic, but then again, it's more than likely a mistake on my part and just paper talk giving figures or maybe the other club. The other club can presumably release the figure if so desired, which in this case is more likely to be the source if a figure materialises given that SFC don't. Edited 17 June, 2015 by angelman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 2 years. And he isn't first choice as he was on the bench for the qualifier Fonte originally got called up for the Portuguese squad in October 2014. He hadn't been a Premier League regular for two years at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Fonte originally got called up for the Portuguese squad in October 2014. He hadn't been a Premier League regular for two years at that point. Well I think he kinda had, we started back in the PL in August 2012, he was always a regular in our side I think, first with Jos or Maya,then with Lovren and finally with Toby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 I don't think Saints have revealed the value of any transfer under Liebherr ownership. That's interesting. So any values quoted have always been just speculation? Never knew that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Well I think he kinda had, we started back in the PL in August 2012, he was always a regular in our side I think, first with Jos or Maya,then with Lovren and finally with Toby. No, he wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 That's interesting. So any values quoted have always been just speculation? Never knew that More or less but there are global figures in the accounts, for instance we know that our summer sales last year brought in a total of some 82 million euros of which 31.5 million came from Shaw and Lambert (because of the timing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 No, he wasn't. Wasn't what...or is this just the argument sketch all over again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Also sign players too early and you only get to choose from the ones who aren't wanted by the bigger clubs, who are after the best available players. Wait until the big clubs have bought all their first choice players and then you can go after all the remaining good ones who have had their ambitions of playing for the glory teams thwarted and then we are the next level down in the PL. Once the glory teams are out of the equation, then the price will be lower too. So.... you suggesting we wait until after Morgan and Clyne have left and the whole world know's we're sitting on circa £40m of dosh. Honestly our fans are totaly skitzo when viewed as a whole. Either we leave it to late, or we do it to early... I for one think we're doing some really nice business early. No reason to suggest we won't get some in later in the day. Unless people think we have a transfer budget of circa £15m-20m and we'll be banking the vast majority of the clyne/morgan transfers and tv money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Wasn't what...or is this just the argument sketch all over again... "Always a regular in our side". 26 starts out of 42 Saints games in season 12/13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 "Always a regular in our side". 26 starts out of 42 Saints games in season 12/13. I think he had some injuries mid season, first choice when available IIRC. Anyway it's sort of academic really. Can't think that Jos or Maya were ever preferred to Fonte if he was available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 They're actually saying its a straight swap fonte for cedric What?! They want Fonte in exchange for Cedric! Tell them no way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 I think he had some injuries mid season, first choice when available IIRC. Anyway it's sort of academic really. Can't think that Jos or Maya were ever preferred to Fonte if he was available. No, he was on the bench. Even on the bench replaced by Yoshida/Hooiveld a couple of times in the early parts of 13/14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 I expect Cédric will be a Saint tomorrow afternoon/evening then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There when Franny scored Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/17/southampton-sign-cedric-soares-sporting-lisbon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 I expect Cédric will be a Saint tomorrow afternoon/evening then. Because it hasn't been completed today or heard something from the club or some twitter musings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Because it hasn't been completed today or heard something from the club or some twitter musings? Obviously because I saw something on Twitter. (inb4 Turkish) The player isn't even in the country yet, AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanyamaisatank Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 sky saying deal agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Honestly our fans are totaly skitzo when viewed as a whole. Either we leave it to late, or we do it to early... It's almost like they're all individual people with different opinions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Breaking News on SSN: Southampton agree deal for Sporting Lisbon Right Back Cedric Soares for £3.5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Also sign players too early and you only get to choose from the ones who aren't wanted by the bigger clubs, who are after the best available players. Wait until the big clubs have bought all their first choice players and then you can go after all the remaining good ones who have had their ambitions of playing for the glory teams thwarted and then we are the next level down in the PL. Once the glory teams are out of the equation, then the price will be lower too. The most dumb way of doing it, ever. to be honest. Getting business done early, before you've sold anyone, is the best course of action. Leave it till last minuite.com, as you suggest, and you'll end up paying them stupid money because a) they know you have it, and b) it's them or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 So how do you pronounce his name? Sores? So-are-es (like Suarez)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 The most dumb way of doing it, ever. to be honest. Getting business done early, before you've sold anyone, is the best course of action. Leave it till last minuite.com, as you suggest, and you'll end up paying them stupid money because a) they know you have it, and b) it's them or bust. Like mane and Toby you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Sounds promising. I think we should go vintage punk ballad for a song, Frederick by Pattis Smith anyone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Like mane and Toby you mean? No, not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 No, not at all. Well they are an example of last minute deals that didn't cost a load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Well they are an example of last minute deals that didn't cost a load. Last summer was a little bit different as you well know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Last summer was a little bit different as you well know. Doing the right deals and not getting hung up on early and late is the correct thing to do. You can get some great deals throughout the transfer window if you know where to look- as we proved last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 June, 2015 Share Posted 17 June, 2015 Doing the right deals and not getting hung up on early and late is the correct thing to do. You can get some great deals throughout the transfer window if you know where to look- as we proved last summer. This is true, I was basically disagreeing with what I felt was a suggestion that we should not buy anyone until the end. That would be a tad dim. I still think you get better value earlier on though, and better results. Longer pre-season, more time for them to settle etc. Juanmi and Cedric are too examples of incredible value deals. 2 current Spanish and Portuguese internationals for less than £10m combined. Absolute top stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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