VectisSaint Posted 24 October, 2015 Share Posted 24 October, 2015 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20151024-lloyd-isgrove-southampton-barnsley-loan-2761736.aspx Guess it was always on the cards once we were knocked out of Europe. Good luck with the Tykes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 24 October, 2015 Share Posted 24 October, 2015 Good luck to him but can't help thinking he could do with finding a permanent club at that level. He's 22 now and I can't see him featuring in the PL any time soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 24 October, 2015 Share Posted 24 October, 2015 Another player who you makes you wonder why on earth they were given a new contract . Never going to be good enough for the premier league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 24 October, 2015 Share Posted 24 October, 2015 Good luck Lloyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 24 October, 2015 Share Posted 24 October, 2015 Needs game time Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 October, 2015 Share Posted 24 October, 2015 Could be that with Gallagher not featuring for MK they wanted to guarantee he'd get games - with Barnsley in the L1 bottom 4 I think there's every chance he'll play every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 October, 2015 Share Posted 25 October, 2015 (edited) Another player who you makes you wonder why on earth they were given a new contract. Never going to be good enough for the premier league I think this is a P.C. thing on the club's agenda. Many of these players have been with the club since their junior school days, and then to suddenly put them on the "scrapheap" of Free Transfers- because just when they get past the U21 stage...and (in Isgrove's case) he isn't as good as Sadio Mane ...is really cruel, and harmful to the players confidence. He deserves a chance to get real game time and IF he eventually moves on " big time "- we'll get development costs from the deal - if no sell-on fee. If he doesn't improve and come back as a contender, he will at least have a good CV for the Championship / L1 level ...and be able to kick-start his career. Edited 25 October, 2015 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 4 February, 2016 Share Posted 4 February, 2016 Starting for Barnsley in the jpt semi on ss5 now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 February, 2016 Share Posted 4 February, 2016 Starting for Barnsley in the jpt semi on ss5 now! Cheers. Looking good so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 February, 2016 Share Posted 4 February, 2016 "Being without Adam Hammill was like Real Madrid being without Ronaldo". Re Isgrove, glad he's getting matches and doing OK. He should have a fair career in League One and maybe the odd season in the Champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 February, 2016 Share Posted 5 February, 2016 Never understood the way we treat him. I rate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 February, 2016 Share Posted 5 February, 2016 I think this is a P.C. thing on the club's agenda. Many of these players have been with the club since their junior school days, and then to suddenly put them on the "scrapheap" of Free Transfers- because just when they get past the U21 stage...and (in Isgrove's case) he isn't as good as Sadio Mane ...is really cruel, and harmful to the players confidence. He deserves a chance to get real game time and IF he eventually moves on " big time "- we'll get development costs from the deal - if no sell-on fee. If he doesn't improve and come back as a contender, he will at least have a good CV for the Championship / L1 level ...and be able to kick-start his career. In which case it's got sod all to do with "P.C." and everything to do with ensuring we profit from our training outlay if the player is sold in the future. Plus they're probably relatively cheap to retain and they know their chances of breaking into the Prem somewhere are better staying with us and maybe getting a break, than if they drop down permanently and have to work their way back up. It's interesting to see how Klopp has immediately committed to playing Liverpool kids in the FA Cup to get a decent look at them and seems to be persisting with the likes of Ibe and Texeira on a more regular basis. They're still basically where we are in the table, but without us progressing our kids through the first team at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 February, 2016 Share Posted 5 February, 2016 Never understood the way we treat him. I rate him. He's not good enough to start consistently in the Premier League for a Saints team that would finish in the top half on anything he's done so far. Should have a decent career at Championship level though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 5 February, 2016 Share Posted 5 February, 2016 Never understood the way we treat him. I rate him. He was nothing special against Fleetwood last night when Barnsley bottled it meaning I didn't win £60 in the process. Definitely not close to Prem standard and he's really getting too old to make it there with us now (not discounting a Vardy/Austin-esque rise from the lower leagues in the future)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 5 February, 2016 Share Posted 5 February, 2016 Was doomed to anonymity the day I saw him and said ' he'll make it' See also Leandre Griffit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 18 March, 2016 Share Posted 18 March, 2016 Just got called into Welsh squad i see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 March, 2016 Share Posted 18 March, 2016 Just got called into Welsh squad i see Seeing as they're missing Bale, Ramsey, James Collins, Paul Dummett, Dave Edwards and Andy King and have named a 26-man squad, he makes it pretty much by virtue of existing at a League One or above standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 18 March, 2016 Share Posted 18 March, 2016 Seeing as they're missing Bale, Ramsey, James Collins, Paul Dummett, Dave Edwards and Andy King and have named a 26-man squad, he makes it pretty much by virtue of existing at a League One or above standard. Or by being Welsh? Heard anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpanmatt Posted 18 March, 2016 Share Posted 18 March, 2016 Going to the JPT final in two weeks- look forward to seeing him score a last minute winner for The Tykes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 18 March, 2016 Author Share Posted 18 March, 2016 Or by being Welsh? Heard anything? Born in Yeovil. Last time I checked Yeovil was in England. Guess one or more of his parents or grandparents are Welsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 March, 2016 Share Posted 18 March, 2016 Or by being Welsh? Heard anything? Not from Coleman or Hodgson... though I did retire from International Football in about 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 March, 2016 Share Posted 19 March, 2016 Born in Yeovil. Last time I checked Yeovil was in England. Guess one or more of his parents or grandparents are Welsh. Hasn't he always identified as Welsh though, playing for their youth sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Seems to get regular starts and do well ..at Barnsley. .. which if not geographically ...then quality-wise... is light years away from the required Prem. standard. Those rare games I've seen him in ..at least you see he's on the pitch, but the real question for Lloyd, and players like Turnbull (second season at Swindon) is .... .....Do I want to go back to SMS, and hope to get an occasional place on the bench?...or get regular football at a lower level ....and hope to become " a late developer ". IF ....he were still at SMS..and we had another major injury crisis, he'd get a chance to show his form...otherwise Barnsley may become his next permanent address. If he isn't OOC in the summer (?)......then he could go for a modest sum and (hopefully) a juicy sell-on fee - in case he does come good in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 24 March, 2016 Share Posted 24 March, 2016 Thought Isgrove was quite bright on his international debut tonight. Probably needs a couple of injuries to make the 23 though. Davis played well tonight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 March, 2016 Share Posted 24 March, 2016 Thought Isgrove was quite bright on his international debut tonight. Probably needs a couple of injuries to make the 23 though. Davis played well tonight too. Strangely I just watched the entire thing and didn't even notice he'd come on. He's barely in the top 30. Must have been weird for Davis and Joe Allen to play against each other again so soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 March, 2016 Share Posted 24 March, 2016 Hasn't he always identified as Welsh though, playing for their youth sides? He was in the U21s, yeah. I'm still waiting for someone to clarify how he qualifies online, the FAW are usually pretty quick on that sort of thing in their match programme so it might get onto their website in the next few months.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 March, 2016 Share Posted 25 March, 2016 He was in the U21s, yeah. I'm still waiting for someone to clarify how he qualifies online, the FAW are usually pretty quick on that sort of thing in their match programme so it might get onto their website in the next few months.... no explanations yet, I see , but if he wasn't actually born in the principality... he probably has a parent, or grandparent who was. .but knowing how difficult it is for Wales to get a quality squad (the likes of Giggs and Bale excepted)...a day trip to Porthcawl might also qualify someone for the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 March, 2016 Share Posted 27 March, 2016 no explanations yet, I see , but if he wasn't actually born in the principality... he probably has a parent, or grandparent who was. Well if he doesn't it might be a bit of a problem (Cascarino aside). PS people in Wales get very narky about calling it a principality since they got some Assembly powers (which is one of the reasons the renaming of the Millennium Stadium after the biggest welsh building society is funny). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 Isgrove played today as Barnsley booked a League One play-off spot. Coupled with winning the JPT, it's been a good move for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Isgrove played today as Barnsley booked a League One play-off spot. Coupled with winning the JPT, it's been a good move for him. Blimey, bit of a turn around for Barnsley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Isgrove played today as Barnsley booked a League One play-off spot. Coupled with winning the JPT, it's been a good move for him. Pleased for him, but he's over age for the U21 's and won't get much of a look-in for our first team. If Barnsley get the extra Championship spot, they might persuade him to sign for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?55357-Gay-Premier-Leauge-players&p=2333061#post2333061 :scared: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 14 May, 2016 Author Share Posted 14 May, 2016 Looks like he is set for his 2nd Wembley appearance of the season, and his third in 3 years (2 winners medals in the JPT and Tykes 3-0 up after 1st leg of play-off SF). Wonder what will happen to him next season, if we qualify for Europe again will we keep him to bolster our home trained numbers? He didn't qualify as an u21 this season, so effectively will be an u23 next. 2 appearances for Saints so far, doesn't seem like he is ever going to break through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 May, 2016 Share Posted 14 May, 2016 Looks like he is set for his 2nd Wembley appearance of the season, and his third in 3 years (2 winners medals in the JPT and Tykes 3-0 up after 1st leg of play-off SF). Wonder what will happen to him next season, if we qualify for Europe again will we keep him to bolster our home trained numbers? He didn't qualify as an u21 this season, so effectively will be an u23 next. 2 appearances for Saints so far, doesn't seem like he is ever going to break through. we shouldnt need to bolster our trained numbers, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 May, 2016 Author Share Posted 15 May, 2016 we shouldnt need to bolster our trained numbers, surely? We only have jwp otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2016 Share Posted 15 May, 2016 (edited) We only have jwp otherwise. Forster Romeu (maybe) Bertrand Rodriguez Long (maybe not) Austin Gazzaniga (maybe) Reed Fonte (maybe) Targett Hesketh gallagher surely they are in the pot? Edited 15 May, 2016 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 15 May, 2016 Share Posted 15 May, 2016 (edited) We only have jwp otherwise. .... beaten to it Edited 15 May, 2016 by Faz beaten to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 May, 2016 Author Share Posted 15 May, 2016 Forster Romeu (maybe) Bertrand Rodriguez Long (maybe not) Austin Gazzaniga (maybe) Reed Fonte (maybe) Targett Hesketh gallagher surely they are in the pot? OK, so clearly you have no idea about home-trained rules for UEFA competitions. Having checked we do have Jack Stephens, Jordan Turnbull and Dom Gape who will not be u21 next season. So that would be 5, only 4 needed for UEFA, assuming we qualify of course, so guessing Issy will likely be on his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2016 Share Posted 15 May, 2016 (edited) OK, so clearly you have no idea about home-trained rules for UEFA competitions. Having checked we do have Jack Stephens, Jordan Turnbull and Dom Gape who will not be u21 next season. So that would be 5, only 4 needed for UEFA, assuming we qualify of course, so guessing Issy will likely be on his way. what are the rules then? 4 club trained 4 association trained? easily fill both Edited 15 May, 2016 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 29 May, 2016 Share Posted 29 May, 2016 Just scored a header in the League 1 play-off final. Good lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 May, 2016 Share Posted 29 May, 2016 An impressive Isgrove just scored a potential winner for Barnsley at Wembley. Good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 29 May, 2016 Share Posted 29 May, 2016 Chuffed for him, look how much it means to him! Whether or not he makes it with us he is the sort of player who really deserves a decent career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 May, 2016 Share Posted 29 May, 2016 Gooooooooaaaaallllllll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 29 May, 2016 Share Posted 29 May, 2016 Great goal watching it on live tv here got great height and perfect header for a small lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 May, 2016 Share Posted 29 May, 2016 Millwall fans in acting like arseholes shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintmike5 Posted 29 May, 2016 Share Posted 29 May, 2016 Nice one Isgrove and nice one Barnsley. From rock-bottom of the league after 20 games to promotion, they've had a better 2nd half of the season then even we did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 29 May, 2016 Share Posted 29 May, 2016 "Wembley" is his middle name. Just can't stay away from the place. Really proud of him and what he's achieving out on loan. Lloyd has aleady established himself as a legend and is a pride to Southampton Football Club. Hope Mister Coleman was watching and gives him a call. Well. done Lloyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 29 May, 2016 Share Posted 29 May, 2016 Fantastic for the lad. Loan him straight back there again next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Saint_G Posted 29 May, 2016 Share Posted 29 May, 2016 Think it would be good for all parties if he remained on loan there next season. Has done well in the lower leagues, but needs to good performance in the Championship with 20+ games under his belt in my opinion. That would be the next step in his progression and give the club a better idea if its worth continuing with him or look to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 29 May, 2016 Share Posted 29 May, 2016 Adam Hammill scored the 2nd as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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