Saint Without a Halo Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Hope his legs get snapped in half when he leaves. Let this club down for a 4th time this season. ****. Do you actually support Saints? that comment is disgraceful ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Just glad Clattenburg was also crap when it came to giving the absolutely bolted on penalty against Yoshida for tripping the West Ham striker near the goal-line in the first half. And also didn't give the penalty for handball they appealed for late on, too. Didn't think it was a red, stupid tackle, probably a yellow, the rolling over and 3 West Ham players running up to him caused it as much as the tackle. No way mate. That was never a pen. Valencia flung his foot into Yoshida and fell like he'd been shot. He was looking for it. Even the victim playing West Ham fans didn't think it was a penalty. Fair play to Clattenburg for that. I honestly don't think he like Saints and he could've quite easily used that as an excuse to take points from us but he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Yes but not when you've already been sent off twice this season, this is his 3rd red card. cEach one gets you an extra match, last time it was 4 this time it should be 5. So he would have missed nearly 1/3 of the season suspended Blimey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Needs to see a Sports Physico pdq. A good player but lets himself and the Team down too many times now. Chasing after an opponent simply to bring him down on the half way line is madness especially as Clattenburg had allowed him so leeway beforehand. Five games out now so could cost us our Europe place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Needs to see a Sports Physico pdq. A good player but lets himself and the Team down too many times now. Chasing after an opponent simply to bring him down on the half way line is madness especially as Clattenburg had allowed him so leeway beforehand. Five games out now so could cost us our Europe place. He's already done that once this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Maybe Wanyama reacted to the crowd groaning when he lost the ball, maybe they have to take some of the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Oh sure, it was our fault!! And also for the two other times he was sent off. And for ****ing up in the Europa League while agitating for a move. Yup, all our fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 (edited) No way mate. That was never a pen. Valencia flung his foot into Yoshida and fell like he'd been shot. He was looking for it. Even the victim playing West Ham fans didn't think it was a penalty. Fair play to Clattenburg for that. I honestly don't think he like Saints and he could've quite easily used that as an excuse to take points from us but he didn't. Throw in the games he missed because of his early season hissy fit and it's a huge chunk of the season he will my be unavailable for. He's probably a bit unlucky this time round as Clattenburg over reacted and allowed himself to be influenced by the reactions of their players, but his time with us is beginning to unravel. A stern talking to from RK, a new contract and a change in attitude required quickly or ship him out. Edited 7 February, 2016 by um pahars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Afraid to say that I have to agree. Missing potentially 1/3rd of the season through discipline is just not something you can afford to carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 West Ham get a yellow for worse tackle Forster for England no 1 Byram committed 5 or 6 fouls in his short spell on the pitch, more than one with an edge. Looks just like a product of "dirty Leeds" though is way too young to remember them. Perhaps they show them the films in the academy up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 He's also building an unwanted reputation and becoming a marked man amongst refs which doesn't help. He's a good player and players of his type are always going to pick up bookings but with all these suspensions he's tipping the balance into the 'liability' end of things. If someone could work on his head and teach him be able to pick and choose his on pitch battles he'd be a hell of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 If someone could work on his head and teach him be able to pick and choose his on pitch battles he'd be a hell of a player. Problem is that I think his head has not been in the right place all season. Could be a cracking player who destroys opponents attacking prowess, but he's been hot and cold all season, and seems distracted or somewhat piffed off. He needs someone with his real interests at heart to have a sit down and decent chat with him. Keep hearing that his current close confidants are perhaps not the most positive influence on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 It was only a foul. Never a red. Not that tackle no but Clattenburg was obviously getting pîssed off with his constant niggly fouling so he turned an ordinary yellow into an iffy red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Absolute liability! The same Wanyama who supplied the pass that Yoshida scored from? Without him we would not have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Do you actually support Saints? that comment is disgraceful ! You'll be booing him when he's a Spurs player next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Thought Vic was good. Was not a red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Theres a reason why Wanyama has played in the majority of games where Saints finished in a European place last season and look to be heading the same way this season...it's cos he's a damn fine player. I think we'd miss him more than some people on here think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Yes but not when you've already been sent off twice this season, this is his 3rd red card. cEach one gets you an extra match, last time it was 4 this time it should be 5. His first 2 were both for 2 yellow cards. This was his first straight red. His last suspension was therefore, only 2 games. Palace in the cup and Watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 You're a ****ing weirdo mate. Take a breath. I'd rather he didn't. Ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 I'd like to have seen the reaction had Fonte or Bertrand made that challenge last night. VW was brilliant until his dismissal, as he has been on this 5 game run, and the red looked ridiculously harsh from where I was sat and nothing I've seen on TV has made me change my mind. I feel like he's now paying the price for upsetting some of our fans and quick becoming a bit of a whipping boy when things don't go to plan. I get that it was an unnecessary tackle to make, and he 'shouldn't have given the ref the decision to make' but that is just excusing an extremely poor decision during an extremely pathetic refereeing performance (very much a performance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 It wasn't a dive, Yoshida clearly clipped him. He clearly did`nt, their feet were side by side and he fell over, neither a foul or a dive.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Yoshida clipped their forward. Would have been a harsh penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Thought Vic was good. Was not a red card. Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Wasn't a red, but Vic should never have given clattenburg the chance to make a poor judgement call. If I was koeman i'd appeal the red, but still go ballistic at a stupid attempt at a tackle, he was never going to win that ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Any top four club would now have to be questioning now whether Vic is worth taking a risk over. Don't think I would be too keen to splurge large amounts of cash on wages and transfer fees etc, on someone with such a reckless unreliable temperament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Byram.s foul on Betrand was much worse but Betrand didn't roll around the ground half a dozen times and our players didn't steam into him like Nobel did to Wanyama. 3 points, f*** off West Ham!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Yoshida clipped their forward. Would have been a harsh penalty You would have been beside yourself with glee if it had been given but not as much as you would have been had it been Pelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Manyama's tackle looked borderline yellow /red - could easily have got either - but it was a stupid tackle. Given that it is his third red card this season, all for similar tackles, he clearly doesn't learn. I was at the other two - we could have held on with 9 players against Bournemouth - they were never going to score, but he cost us three points at Norwich as we were well on top when he was sent off. On form he is brilliant, but we haven't seen too many of those this season. I think that he will go in the summer. Agree about Byram on Bertrand. That should also have been a red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 (edited) Yoshida clipped their forward. Would have been a harsh penalty Watch the replays - see how Valencia initially plants his foot sideways into Yoshida before he gets clipped. Both Gary Monk and Jamie Redknapp pointed this out and said it should have counted against Valencia - never mind the rights and wrongs of the clip. But hey, anything to salvage something from your dip**** sweepstake, right? Edited 7 February, 2016 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 I thought vic played well tbh. That was never a red card. He didn't tackle from behind and didn't even touch the guy. He shouldn't have made that tackle but it was a harsh red. There was a far worse tackle on Pelle from behind. And the one where Long got studs down his ankle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 I thought vic played well tbh. That was never a red card. He didn't tackle from behind and didn't even touch the guy. He shouldn't have made that tackle but it was a harsh red. There was a far worse tackle on Pelle from behind. And the one where Long got studs down his ankle. Wanyama played very well - Payet hardly got a sniff, though he didn't that much more after the sending off. The challenge was the proverbial "forward's tackle" - sloppy and ungainly perhaps but not violent and reckless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 If Clattenburg had made the correct decision and not allowed himself to be influenced by the whinging and play-acting from the WHU players, would we still have had this thread? ... and would we have won without ten men behind the goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 ... and would we have won without ten men behind the goal? Ten men behind the goal? We'd probably lose, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbysouth Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Wanyama would've got my motm yesterday if it weren't for the red card. Think he's an excellent player, always harder to see that after he tried to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 Seen it again now on tv, actually think a yellow would have been harsh. Thanks a lot ****tenburg you massive bell end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 I suspect the club will appeal. Although the FA will uphold the red card it may review the length of ban. On that basis I think he might get revised 3 games total, 1 for the red and 2 for the previous sending offs. Maybe be wishful thinking but let's every party 'exit with honour'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 5 games seems excessive, and their is precedent. http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/pdf/the%20fa%202014-15/written%20reasons/regulatory-commission-reasons---excessive-claim---matic.ashx?la=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 I'd like to have seen the reaction had Fonte or Bertrand made that challenge last night. VW was brilliant until his dismissal, as he has been on this 5 game run, and the red looked ridiculously harsh from where I was sat and nothing I've seen on TV has made me change my mind. I feel like he's now paying the price for upsetting some of our fans and quick becoming a bit of a whipping boy when things don't go to plan. I get that it was an unnecessary tackle to make, and he 'shouldn't have given the ref the decision to make' but that is just excusing an extremely poor decision during an extremely pathetic refereeing performance (very much a performance). Very well summed up. The Club really must appeal the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 7 February, 2016 Share Posted 7 February, 2016 5 games seems excessive, and their is precedent. http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/pdf/the%20fa%202014-15/written%20reasons/regulatory-commission-reasons---excessive-claim---matic.ashx?la=en Can we rely on the talented Mr Stuart "one-goal" Ripley helping us out though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 8 February, 2016 Share Posted 8 February, 2016 He tripped him in the box (ended up sliding off on all fours I think) when there was no reason to be anywhere near him as the ball was going off the pitch. Are we talking about the same incident? https://streamable.com/812m There was no reason to be anywhere near him?? The ball was going off?? Valencia had caught up with the ball already. He only didn't touch it because he planted his foot under Yoshida's (he clearly went out of his way to do it while Maya was running straight) and then fell to the floor. And "sliding off on all fours" is just another way of saying he fell over, so carries no importance. Defo no pen for me, and Maya was absolutely right to be covering the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 8 February, 2016 Share Posted 8 February, 2016 If we were total idiots, we could do that, and Man. United could have given away Roy Keane and Arsenal could have given away Patrick Vieira when they got far more red cards than Wanyama, but amazingly they weren't idiots so they didn't. As long as most of his games are not refereed by Clattenburg, Wanyama will get no more red cards than any other top defensive midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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