Unbelievable Jeff Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 For those that haven't watched him much, Gabbiadini is much better than the stats suggest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 25 January, 2017 For those that haven't watched him much, Gabbiadini is much better than the stats suggest... Some reading for you: http://readsouthampton.com/2017/01/17/scouting-report-manolo-gabbiadini/ Plus.... A few interesting articles on him. Certainly the goal record is a bit of a red herring because he is often used as a sub by Napoli. He goal return when starting is very good albeit with a smaller sample. http://www.italianfootballdaily.com/manolo-gabbiadini-solution-striking-problems/ http://www.thesirenssong.com/platform/amp/calciomercato-napoli-transfer-rumors/2015/1/6/7498409/transfer-scouting-manolo-gabbiadini-forward-new-signing-sampdoria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 Not sure I want him....he's not as good looking as Pelle or Austin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 Update: Lol if that's the case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 Update: Lol if that's the case... I think someone writing that has mixed up Euro and & along the way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 25 January, 2017 SSN: Mauro Zárate has joined Watford on a two-and-a-half year deal from Fiorentina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 Update: Lol if that's the case... That tweet is totally different to what's in the actual article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 I wonder if Martial is on his way out at Man U. Maybe he needs rescuing to a club were he gets to play and develop... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4149464/Anthony-Martial-upset-omission-Stoke-draw.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 Feel for Marco Silva, gone into a club, made a decent impression already and the clubs being asset stripped right in front of him. Yes but if he holds himself well he'll find another (better) job here soon enough. No-one will pin Hull's relegation on him I still can't quite get over the fact we lost to that shower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 tariq panja @tariqpanja 7m Feeling at Inter is that defender Andrea Ranocchia will be a Southampton player for about €10m by end of month. Let's see what happens Looks like this could be the fonte replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 tariq panja @tariqpanja 7m Feeling at Inter is that defender Andrea Ranocchia will be a Southampton player for about €10m by end of month. Let's see what happens Looks like this could be the fonte replacement In the Inter home game, wasn't he the fella who got away with wrestling VVD at every corner kick? Proper old school Italian, we could do worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 (edited) In Les we trust Edited 25 January, 2017 by pangy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 tariq panja @tariqpanja 7m Feeling at Inter is that defender Andrea Ranocchia will be a Southampton player for about €10m by end of month. Let's see what happens Looks like this could be the fonte replacement Interesting linked with several PL clubs (though not us) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4151536/Swansea-enquiry-Inter-Milan-defender-Andrea-Ranocchia.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 tariq panja @tariqpanja 7m Feeling at Inter is that defender Andrea Ranocchia will be a Southampton player for about €10m by end of month. Let's see what happens Looks like this could be the fonte replacement That has total panic buy written all over it - hoping this is just agent talk Hes been offered to all Premier league clubs and Hull and Swansea were interested at £5m Agent then tried to get some Spurs hype/ hope once Vertonghen was injured This guy was loaned out to Sampdoria and now cant get anywhere near the Inter starting 11 despite injuries. Think hes been on the bench for last 20 odd games and got on once or twice in last 5 minutes Let Hull take him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 That has total panic buy written all over it - hoping this is just agent talk Hes been offered to all Premier league clubs and Hull and Swansea were interested at £5m Agent then tried to get some Spurs hype/ hope once Vertonghen was injured This guy was loaned out to Sampdoria and now cant get anywhere near the Inter starting 11 despite injuries. Think hes been on the bench for last 20 odd games and got on once or twice in last 5 minutes Let Hull take him http://www.espn.co.uk/football/club/internazionale/110/blog/post/2910101/inter-milan-must-learn-from-falls-of-andrea-ranocchia-and-juan-jesus Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpedro Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 Would rather have Jeison Murillo of the Inter defenders. Another decent bet would be the other Colombian centre back Yerry Mina. Good player, expect him to come to Europe soon in one of the big leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 Hahaha Gaston has put in a transfer request!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 Would rather have Jeison Murillo of the Inter defenders. Another decent bet would be the other Colombian centre back Yerry Mina. Good player, expect him to come to Europe soon in one of the big leagues. listened to talkSPORT with Phil Vickery earlier eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 25 January, 2017 Hahaha Gaston has put in a transfer request!!!! Wtf?! He's only just joined?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 He's smelling the money on offer from Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 Haven't we moved forward with any deals this evening? It's not like we had anything else on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 25 January, 2017 Share Posted 25 January, 2017 Much prefer us to be spending money this summer when better deals are available. Players showed tonight we can cope with the injuries. Boufal is back soon and charlie is a month away. Only doubt for me would be center back with Virgil probably out for a while. Let s get a loan and give the opportunity to Jack to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Hahaha Gaston has put in a transfer request!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Why wouldn't he? I imagine that even the tea lady and car park attendants are looking for a little more job security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Anthony Martial has apparently told Man U he'd like to go out on loan for the rest of the season. Might be a good way to add a bit more to the squad, upfront, for the rest of the season without a massive cash layout http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/anthony-martial-rift-with-jose-mourinho-and-other-manchester-united-transfer-rumours/ar-AAmakMe?ocid=spartandhp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Anthony Martial has apparently told Man U he'd like to go out on loan for the rest of the season. Might be a good way to add a bit more to the squad, upfront, for the rest of the season without a massive cash layout http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/anthony-martial-rift-with-jose-mourinho-and-other-manchester-united-transfer-rumours/ar-AAmakMe?ocid=spartandhp That would be a massive coup, but if Utd do go for it I expect they'd send him abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Martial get it done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 26 January, 2017 JESE TO BORO? They might be losing Gaston Ramirez, but Middlesbrough are reportedly set to sign Jese. According to French newspaper L'Equipe, Goncalo Guedes' arrival at PSG has paved the way for former Real Madrid winger Jese to join Boro on loan until the end of the season. It is reported that Jese preferred Las Palmas, but they were only able to pay 20% of his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Supposedly we have upped our offer for Gabbiadini to £17.5m. (14 +3.5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Supposedly we have upped our offer for Gabbiadini to £17.5m. (14 +3.5) The Times this morning says £13m + £3m (close enough) but it also says that we 'have been given the green light to sign Mariano Diaz, the striker, from Real Madrid'. Who he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downthe36 Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Martial to us would be great on loan, would make sense for United as well surely... Better chance of us taking points of their rivals? For that reason it definitely won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Its interesting the number of "we need a new striker" quotes out there. I wouldnt mind an upgrade on Jrod or Long but am realistic about gettng one in Jan. The main thing is that id like to see the stats on which position has missed our main chances this season. When you look at the likes of the liverpool games they fell more to the attacking midfielders (Tadic / redmond / davis) than the main striker i thought. Is this why we are looking for a wider type fwd? That said he doesnt score lots anyway so what do i know! So hard about a CB. The rib crunching to Maya shows how precarious our position is at CB and it would likely be foolhardy not to sign someone with half a season to go but not someonewho pushes Stephens further down the pecking order. To that end the Jag link is actually a decent one - he may not play, pick up a few quid but is there if needed. We'll get hammered if we sign him but maybe its the level we need. Or if VVD is off in teh summer teh somone awesome please!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Its interesting the number of "we need a new striker" quotes out there. I wouldnt mind an upgrade on Jrod or Long but am realistic about gettng one in Jan. The main thing is that id like to see the stats on which position has missed our main chances this season. When you look at the likes of the liverpool games they fell more to the attacking midfielders (Tadic / redmond / davis) than the main striker i thought. Is this why we are looking for a wider type fwd? That said he doesnt score lots anyway so what do i know! So hard about a CB. The rib crunching to Maya shows how precarious our position is at CB and it would likely be foolhardy not to sign someone with half a season to go but not someonewho pushes Stephens further down the pecking order. To that end the Jag link is actually a decent one - he may not play, pick up a few quid but is there if needed. We'll get hammered if we sign him but maybe its the level we need. Or if VVD is off in teh summer teh somone awesome please!! This. I'm not convinced its a CF we need. Look at Liverpool... Mane, Coutinho and Firmino aren't out and out strikers, but they're (especially Mane) vital to Liverpool scoring goals. I wouldn't mind a target man for us to hit for a plan B, but for me, we're lacking creativity / composure (in front of goal) in midfield. This is why I think Gabbiadini would be a cleaver move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintgeorge8 Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Seen a report saying we've agreed terms with Gabbiadini but I can't remember where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 If we want to genuinely adopt the Dortmund/Atletico approach, we probably should be looking to bring in Gabbiadini and Diaz - developing one promising player at a time per position isn't really a scalable solution, as you can see by Dortmund's attempts to buy every promising youngster in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Seen a report saying we've agreed terms with Gabbiadini but I can't remember where I saw that also. Interesting as I thought the protocol was to agree a fee with the club and then talk to the player - but who knows, its probably agree a fee with the agent first and take it from there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Just seen this on Hoybjergs Twitter :-) What the ****, @SouthamptonFC you should be all over this Middlesbrough moving closer to making a signing.They are in talks to sign Jese Rodriguez from PSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 If we want to genuinely adopt the Dortmund/Atletico approach, we probably should be looking to bring in Gabbiadini and Diaz - developing one promising player at a time per position isn't really a scalable solution, as you can see by Dortmund's attempts to buy every promising youngster in Europe. The difficulty of this is that Dortmund and Atletico are generally massive clubs who have previously won European trophies and pretty much secure European football every year. The model works for them as they are able to attract the best youngsters in the world and have the status to command an exceptional fee and they can attract the top players from their respective league to complement their youngsters. Unfortunately we just don't have that kind of pulling power so for us, it is much more of a gamble. That being said it appears to be working, just on a much lesser scale! My concern is when that gamble The Dortmund/Atletico approach would work well for someone like Spurs or Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Ignore that - I just realised that its some sort of parody account. However, Jese Rodriguez anyone? Just seen this on Hoybjergs Twitter :-) What the ****, @SouthamptonFC you should be all over this Middlesbrough moving closer to making a signing.They are in talks to sign Jese Rodriguez from PSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Ignore that - I just realised that its some sort of parody account. However' date=' Jese Rodriguez anyone?[/quote'] yes yes yes and yes. Massive coup for Middlesbrough who have done very well in the transfer market imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Martial to us would be great on loan, would make sense for United as well surely... Better chance of us taking points of their rivals? For that reason it definitely won't happen. Two more goals for them and they'd have topay another €10m http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2017/01/09/31306252/martial-two-goals-away-from-costing-manchester-united-10m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Martial on a 6 month loan is an interesting one, usually I'm anti loans unless there is a buy clause if they work out because they just block first team opportunities for our youngsters and are not a long term solution. In this case though we are short a striker and our top prospect is out on loan so he wouldn't really be blocking anyones progress and would be great competition/cover in the meantime. Sadly it won't happen though! I'm not convinced on the Jesse thing either, there is a reason he is looking likely to land up at Boro and that's not because he's a world beater on current form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 According to this, Saints have reached an agreement with Gabbiadini, but not yet with Napoli: http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-reach-agreement-player-january-transfer-want-wrap-deal-asap/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 Martial to us would be great on loan, would make sense for United as well surely... Better chance of us taking points of their rivals? For that reason it definitely won't happen. He'd be spying for Utd ahead of the cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 With Southampton pushing for Manolo Gabbiadini, their official offer to Napoli is already on the table: 16 million Euro plus an extra four million based on goal-related bonuses in the Premier League. The first of the four bonus million would apparently come in to play after Gabbiadini’s eventual 10th goal in the league, and the second million by the 15th goal. In addition, Napoli may get the guarantee of receiving 10% of an eventual future sale of Gabbiadini: Another clause used by Southampton in hopes of convincing Napoli and president De Laurentiis to reach an agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 26 January, 2017 SSN: Watford have announced the signing of AC Milan forward M'Baye Niang. The 22-year-old has signed on loan until the end of the 2016/17 season, and the Hornets also have the option of making the move permanent in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 The difficulty of this is that Dortmund and Atletico are generally massive clubs who have previously won European trophies and pretty much secure European football every year. The model works for them as they are able to attract the best youngsters in the world and have the status to command an exceptional fee and they can attract the top players from their respective league to complement their youngsters. Unfortunately we just don't have that kind of pulling power so for us, it is much more of a gamble. That being said it appears to be working, just on a much lesser scale! My concern is when that gamble The Dortmund/Atletico approach would work well for someone like Spurs or Liverpool. Spurs and Liverpool already kinda do do it- it's just there is 4 clubs better than them already here in England Dortmund also poach from smaller clubs in Germany let us not forget, with their last two managers coming from Mainz I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 I don't think we are that interested in loans where there is not a realistic chance of signing the player later. With loan-fees and wages for players like Jese and Martial there's a very high cost without the chance of making a profit if they do well. Its not really how we do business. JESE TO BORO? They might be losing Gaston Ramirez, but Middlesbrough are reportedly set to sign Jese. According to French newspaper L'Equipe, Goncalo Guedes' arrival at PSG has paved the way for former Real Madrid winger Jese to join Boro on loan until the end of the season. It is reported that Jese preferred Las Palmas, but they were only able to pay 20% of his wages. Who wouldn't prefer Las Palmas to Middlesbrough if you're getting paid the same amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 26 January, 2017 Share Posted 26 January, 2017 It looks like we're seriously trying for Gabbiadini, but any news on a CB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stedje Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 Yes. A german guy playing for Spartac Moscow, according to the Sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 27 January, 2017 Share Posted 27 January, 2017 It looks like we're seriously trying for Gabbiadini, but any news on a CB? We're keeping the CB signing well off the radar. Stealth mode. Keep an eye on the Potters Heron bookings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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