Tyler Dibling

[Lighthouse]

On 27/10/2025 at 17:26, Weston Super Saint said:

It may be out of the box thinking, but if his family moved up North that would cure his homesickness wouldn't it?

Perhaps they could commission a large mural of the ALDI in Millbrook at their training ground, to make him feel more at home.

[Saint Fan CaM]

I’ve lost track of how he’s doing at Everton - is he actually getting first team appearances?

[beatlesaint]

5 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I’ve lost track of how he’s doing at Everton - is he actually getting first team appearances?

He's not playing many minutes. He started the other week at home to Palace and was hauled off at half time, not sure if he's got on the pitch since then tbh.

[Lighthouse]

18 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I’ve lost track of how he’s doing at Everton - is he actually getting first team appearances?

Neither him nor Alcaraz seem to be particularly in Moyes plans, they're usually late subs if things aren't going well.

[AlexLaw76]

He'll be out on loan to Bournemouth soon enough.

[SW11_Saint]

12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

He'll be out on loan to Bournemouth soon enough.

Be a bit odd, one of the bottom-feeders loaning to one of the CL chasers… 

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 hour ago, SW11_Saint said:

Be a bit odd, one of the bottom-feeders loaning to one of the CL chasers… 

Let that sink in! 😉

[ecuk268]

Tyler not living up to his £40m price tag.

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2025/10/28/tyler-dibling-handed-everton-warning-as-david-moyes-unimpressed-by-training/

[sockeye]

2 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Tyler not living up to his £40m price tag.

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2025/10/28/tyler-dibling-handed-everton-warning-as-david-moyes-unimpressed-by-training/

Well, the rest of them haven't exactly set the world alight...

[saintant]

41 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Tyler not living up to his £40m price tag.

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2025/10/28/tyler-dibling-handed-everton-warning-as-david-moyes-unimpressed-by-training/

Can't say I'm surprised.

[spyinthesky]

Arguably one of the things that the club has done right.
Tyler has got a lot of talent but only is currently able to show this occasionally.
Has been unable to show the dynamism that the Premiership and to a lesser extent the Championship game demands.
The way Saints are set up this season he would not be making the same impression as Leo Scienza, in my opinion, so the club is over £30m better off.

[hypochondriac]

Tyler Dibling is an idiot. I'm not saying he would have improved much here after this shit show of the past few weeks but for the sake of his own development he really should have given it another season. I'm glad we sold him though.

Edited yesterday at 16:21 by hypochondriac

[HarvSFC]

Said last season that there have been far more talented players than Dibling who haven't made in it the game due to mentality and I think Dibling's lacking that mentality and drive that the top athletes have. He's got this far on talent alone, and to be fair he is very talented, but athlete's need that something extra in their head to be consistent performers against others and there was plenty of noise here that Dibling wasn't the best trainer, Martin said it himself and he didn't do enough work off the ball in a time where you get punished for one player switching off.

Moyes doesn't trust him and to be honest I'm not saddened to see any of the players that left in the summer struggling again this season.

[ErwinK1961]

He’s still only 19, he’s got plenty of time to fulfil his potential. Clear he needs to adapt to the mentality of playing week in week out at the top level, but he’s working under the right manager currently to help with that.

I am sure he will play for England one day.

[Roo1976]

12 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

He’s still only 19, he’s got plenty of time to fulfil his potential. Clear he needs to adapt to the mentality of playing week in week out at the top level, but he’s working under the right manager currently to help with that.

I am sure he will play for England one day.

Only 19!!...................there are 15-16 yrs olds getting game recognition  and are more in the spotlight and being talked about ahead of him,still mes a millionaire whats to worry about?....................if you aint got the commitment you haven't got the mentality to go on.............Dele Ali.....................wheres he now?

[Willo of Whiteley]

He’ll be farmed out to a West Ham or Fulham down the line.

He downed tools last season.

[LiberalCommunist]

The Everton move was a dreadful decision. While here with us, he had a spot light on him, now he has the eye of Mordor as he struggles to adapt. People close to him should had been advising him on his football career, not ftse index profile. Its actually pretty sad, 

Edited 13 hours ago by LiberalCommunist

[S-Clarke]

16 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Tyler Dibling is an idiot. I'm not saying he would have improved much here after this shit show of the past few weeks but for the sake of his own development he really should have given it another season. I'm glad we sold him though.

He was advised for the wrong reasons, $$$$. At his age it should be about development and growth, but he traded that for a big lump of money. If that's what makes him happy then fair enough, but if those are his principles he'll never make it to the level he could.

[skintsaint]

38 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

At his age it should be about development and growth

He is training every day with Grealish who you would say is very similar in playstyle, so he has a great opportunity to study and learn from him this season, along being with a very. If he shows no improvement over the next 12-18 months then you would probably say he will be another in the long list of players moving too soon.

[Hoggins]

I thought he looked massively unfit last season - on a level I haven’t seen before in the EPL. And it’s incredible that Everton have coughed up £40m

[OldNick]

1 hour ago, LiberalCommunist said:

The Everton move was a dreadful decision. While here with us, he had a spot light on him, now he has the eye of Mordor as he struggles to adapt. People close to him should had been advising him on his football career, not ftse index profile. Its actually pretty sad, 

An impressional young kid being guided I assume by an agent whose eyes I feel were not looking at what was best for the young lad. We knew he had trouble coping at Chelsea and came back, sadly that door is closed as we wouldnt be in position to give £10m back for him plus his ridiculous wages

[Saint86]

Sad that he'll waste his potential, but equally he's a brilliant example to be used for the rest of the academy kids. He left saints rather than have a year starring in the championship learning how to carry a team and become the main man (Grealish did the opposite and got Villa promoted, earning his move). Dibling sadly looks like another of the recent academy batches that have had eyes on the money and fame first and foremost - without respecting the effort it takes to ultimately really earn it. I don't know if the club can do something to better educate them or shield them from bad agents? But either way, its no longer our problem in Tyler's case. I think most Saints fans knew it wasn't the best move, so it really is a case of him being very badly advised. The unfortunate part of it for Saints is that he may somewhat damage the perceived value of our "academy products".

Edited 11 hours ago by Saint86

[Fabrice29]

10 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said:

He’s still only 19, he’s got plenty of time to fulfil his potential. Clear he needs to adapt to the mentality of playing week in week out at the top level, but he’s working under the right manager currently to help with that.

I am sure he will play for England one day.

That manager is being criticised by Everton fans for not handling him and other youngsters very well. No idea of the merits of that but I said in the summer a Moyes team would not be good for him and also got laughed at for suggesting Dibling without Martins tactics would look a little lost, as he has done since he’s left. 

I do think talk of the kid being an idiot and ruining his own career is pretty fucking dumb though. Kids 19 ffs 🤣

Edited 11 hours ago by Fabrice29

[Fabrice29]

3 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Sad that he'll waste his potential, but equally he's a brilliant example to be used for the rest of the academy kids. He left saints rather than have a year starring in the championship learning how to carry a team and become the main man (Grealish did the opposite and got Villa promoted, earning his move). Dibling sadly looks like another of the recent academy batches that have had eyes on the money and fame first and foremost - without respecting the effort it takes to ultimately really earn it. I don't know if the club cand do something to better educated them or shield them from bad agents? But either way, its no longer our problem in Tyler's case. His parents no doubt had a hand in advising that move as well. The unfortunate part of it for Saints is that he may somewhat damage the perceived value of our "academy products".

Think it’s pretty dumb to suggest a team currently under performing, 20th in the Championship and going through another managerial change was the best place for a 19 year old with offers from various top division clubs on the table, to be. It’s genuinely insane logic. But hey, if criticising a kid makes you feel better about Saints then good for you.

[skintsaint]

4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

No idea of the merits of that but I said in the summer a Moyes team would not be good for him

Didn't Moyes bring in an even younger player through in the name of Rooney? Think Moyes has a decent record of developing players in the past, especially from the championship (Cahill, Jagelka, Baines etc).

[Fabrice29]

Just now, skintsaint said:

Didn't Moyes bring in an even younger player through in the name of Rooney? Think Moyes has a decent record of developing players in the past, especially from the championship (Cahill, Jagelka, Baines etc).

The Rooney that left as soon as he could? None of Cahill, Jagielka or Baines are comparable either.

[skintsaint]

4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

The Rooney that left as soon as he could? None of Cahill, Jagielka or Baines are comparable either.

Its ok to be wrong, another of the top of my head is i'm sure he guided Declan Rice through at West Ham in his debut season.

I'm sure thats not comparable either.

Edited 11 hours ago by skintsaint

[swannymere]

 The odds are against him but everyone including (saggy chops) wrote off Bale in his first season at Spurs, so who knows.

[BARCELONASAINT]

I said at the time he was making a huge mistake going to Everton and nothing i have seen so far makes me change my mind. It will be a massive waste of talent if he just disappears and that could easily happen, football is very unforgiving. The only plus right now for TD is the money.

[Saint86]

9 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Didn't Moyes bring in an even younger player through in the name of Rooney? Think Moyes has a decent record of developing players in the past, especially from the championship (Cahill, Jagelka, Baines etc).

Hah, yes exactly. Moyes is very well regarded for developing young players. For my sins, I'm good friends with a couple of Everton fans, to say that they think Dibling should be getting more game time (or that they blame Moyes for Dibling being shit) is just make believe. Fairy tale stuff in fact. They're extremely disappointed with him, think his attitude is off, and think we've mugged them right off 😄

Edited 11 hours ago by Saint86

[Fabrice29]

14 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Its ok to be wrong, another of the top of my head is i'm sure he guided Declan Rice through at West Ham in his debut season.

I'm sure thats not comparable either.

Jagielka and Cahill were mid 20’s when they signed for Everton. Baines 20/21 maybe? Like I said, not comparable. Rice I’ll give you and at no stage did I say Moyes hasn’t guided any youngster well, what I said was Everton fans are criticising him for his handling of Dibling and other youngsters they have now. I’m sure you know best though.

[BARCELONASAINT]

11 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Hah, yes exactly. Moyes is very well regarded for developing young players. For my sins, I'm good friends with a couple of Everton fans, to say that they think Dibling should be getting more game time (or that they blame Moyes for Dibling being shit) is just make believe. Fairy tale stuff in fact. They're extremely disappointed with him, think his attitude is off, and think we've mugged them right off 😄

My personal take on this having a friend quite close to the Dibling family is young TD was getting pulled one way and another and he was very conflicted in what to do for best. He felt a massive debt of gratitude to Saints for rescuing him from Chelsea and he certainly saw his future LONG term at Saints. Unfortunately he started getting people around him (not all) telling him to leave Saints and this effected him (huge drop off last season in form)

He's now back in a similar position to the one he found himself at Chelsea and mentally he is suffering. The small cameos i have seen of him this season he looks lost. It's a huge shame.

[Fabrice29]

15 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Hah, yes exactly. Moyes is very well regarded for developing young players. For my sins, I'm good friends with a couple of Everton fans, to say that they think Dibling should be getting more game time (or that they blame Moyes for Dibling being shit) is just make believe. Fairy tale stuff in fact. They're extremely disappointed with him, think his attitude is off, and think we've mugged them right off 😄

Make believe except for Carragher stating the messages he was receiving during the broadcast last night. Different fans have different opinions shock.

 

[Maggie May]

19 hours ago, ecuk268 said:

Tyler not living up to his £40m price tag.

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2025/10/28/tyler-dibling-handed-everton-warning-as-david-moyes-unimpressed-by-training/

Click bait article that says nothing of the sort.  It’s churned out from Michael Ball’s Liverpool Echo column in which he makes an assumption that he might need to do more in training. 

[AlexLaw76]

3 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

My personal take on this having a friend quite close to the Dibling family is young TD was getting pulled one way and another and he was very conflicted in what to do for best. He felt a massive debt of gratitude to Saints for rescuing him from Chelsea and he certainly saw his future LONG term at Saints. Unfortunately he started getting people around him (not all) telling him to leave Saints and this effected him (huge drop off last season in form)

He's now back in a similar position to the one he found himself at Chelsea and mentally he is suffering. The small cameos i have seen of him this season he looks lost. It's a huge shame.

Sad really. He would have been a star in the Championship (not under Still, mind)

[Saint86]

45 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

My personal take on this having a friend quite close to the Dibling family is young TD was getting pulled one way and another and he was very conflicted in what to do for best. He felt a massive debt of gratitude to Saints for rescuing him from Chelsea and he certainly saw his future LONG term at Saints. Unfortunately he started getting people around him (not all) telling him to leave Saints and this effected him (huge drop off last season in form)

He's now back in a similar position to the one he found himself at Chelsea and mentally he is suffering. The small cameos i have seen of him this season he looks lost. It's a huge shame.

Yeah, agree it's a shame (I thought he was a huge talent potentially), but from the club's side it's also done now - nothing more they can do and it's for Tyler and his family to sort out this out. As I said above, the club needs to find a way of educating these players or protecting them better.

Edited 10 hours ago by Saint86

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

He is training every day with Grealish who you would say is very similar in playstyle, so he has a great opportunity to study and learn from him this season, along being with a very. If he shows no improvement over the next 12-18 months then you would probably say he will be another in the long list of players moving too soon.

Not playing though is he. Look how much Lallana developed when we went down to league one. You can train with the best in the world but it's not going to replicate a game environment. 

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said:

Think it’s pretty dumb to suggest a team currently under performing, 20th in the Championship and going through another managerial change was the best place for a 19 year old with offers from various top division clubs on the table, to be. It’s genuinely insane logic. But hey, if criticising a kid makes you feel better about Saints then good for you.

Didn't do Lallana any harm when we got relegated to league one. In fact I believe he said it was the making of him. 

[East Kent Saint]

I think Dibling is “on the spectrum” an individual rather than a team player . MLT was similar but in his case he did his thing and the team supported his individuality

His reaction to Chelsea move shows that he was comfortable at Saints and any change would unbalance him . I would have thought Saints should have understood  him for what he was . He doesn’t like to be in the spotlight , singled out , shouted at etc but given specialist coaching to bring out his talent and protect him .

Edited 9 hours ago by East Kent Saint

[Fabrice29]

24 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Didn't do Lallana any harm when we got relegated to league one. In fact I believe he said it was the making of him. 

Was Lallana knocking back PL teams when we got relegated from the PL?
 

Can we just stop a) judging players based on 3 months. B) Sighting random players who fit narratives and pretending their path to success is the only way for other youngsters to make it? 

Maybe, just maybe, Tyler wants to play in the PL and I’m going to suggest signing for a PL club might give him a better crack at that than not. 

[OldNick]

4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Was Lallana knocking back PL teams when we got relegated from the PL?
 

Can we just stop a) judging players based on 3 months. B) Sighting random players who fit narratives and pretending their path to success is the only way for other youngsters to make it? 

Maybe, just maybe, Tyler wants to play in the PL and I’m going to suggest signing for a PL club might give him a better crack at that than not. 

well at present hes a long way from playing with the players in front of him in the pecking order. To me it seems pretty obvious that he is not cut out being away from his safe environment (my opinion) A young lad having many different opinions guiding for their own agendas. If im correct some of his best football was under Juric (Man Utd away, I think Juric was maanger then)

[hypochondriac]

10 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Was Lallana knocking back PL teams when we got relegated from the PL?
 

Can we just stop a) judging players based on 3 months. B) Sighting random players who fit narratives and pretending their path to success is the only way for other youngsters to make it? 

Maybe, just maybe, Tyler wants to play in the PL and I’m going to suggest signing for a PL club might give him a better crack at that than not. 

I did neither of those things. All I'm saying is that in my opinion sitting on the bench at Everton, getting criticism from their fans and hearing noises from people who know him that he isn't happy makes me believe that leaving at this point of his career was the wrong move. Of course he may burst through in the next few months and prove me wrong but that isn't looking likely at the moment.

[Lighthouse]

He’s a young lad who’s clearly having a stop-start beginning to his Everton career but that’s hardly surprising. Martin’s football clearly suited him a lot more than the more direct style of Juric and he lost his confidence considerably in the second half of the season. Whether he does eventually justify his price tag remains to be seen but I still think it was a decent move for him. Everton will just need to be patient, as Arsenal and Spurs were with Walcott, AOC and Bale.