Charlie Wayman Posted 23 November, 2022 Share Posted 23 November, 2022 We're in it to win it... France v England Final, surely worth a bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 23 November, 2022 Share Posted 23 November, 2022 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: There's a lot of talk about our 'golden generation' of the mid 00's, but you have to say Belgium are totally wasting the chance they should have with theirs. Should have won something by now with the group they have imo. Lukaku, De Bryune, Hazard, Toby, Cortouis, Vertonghen, Kompany, Carrasco etc. Top players at their prime who'd have walked into any team in world football. Actually one could argue fairly that most are past their best and relying on reputations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 November, 2022 Share Posted 23 November, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: We're in it to win it... France v England Final, surely worth a bet. Being as we are in the same side of the draw as France then, no, I don’t think it’s worth a bet. Not impossible but I reckon unlikely. Edited 23 November, 2022 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 November, 2022 Share Posted 23 November, 2022 1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said: Actually one could argue fairly that most are past their best and relying on reputations. They are moving over the hill now yep, that's why the previous years have been a huge, wasted opportunity in my opinion. They've never really 'clicked' and Martinez overseeing their golden generation was a pretty bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 9 hours ago, Hatch said: Antti Niemi seems to have resurfaced and is playing in goal for costa rica ! Yes, I was thinking that, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keef Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Having watched Japan today, one of their defenders, Yoshida I think his name is, looked very useful. I'd take a punt on him. HCDAJFU. Being serious, I'm delighted for him. He was a good servant for the Saints and left with dignity. On the other hand, having watched Belgium, Toby looks like he's well past his sell by date. Canada bossed that game and were only let down by their finishing. I must admit I'm enjoying watching these so called "lesser" teams up against these "Big Boys". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 11 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: We're in it to win it... France v England Final, surely worth a bet. That's most likely our quarter final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 I think we'll lose to France in the quarter final, unless they get a few more injuries. I just can't see us containing Mbappe with our defence, we should score as I don't think France are good defensively either, Lloris is nowhere near the player he was and I don't think the likes Kunde, Upamecano or Fofana are in form. Australia probably have less talent than most championship teams but opened up France quite a few times and probably should have scored another. It does seem to me, on these initial games that its the younger players and teams with younger players who are generally shining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 25 minutes ago, tajjuk said: I think we'll lose to France in the quarter final, unless they get a few more injuries. I just can't see us containing Mbappe with our defence, we should score as I don't think France are good defensively either, Lloris is nowhere near the player he was and I don't think the likes Kunde, Upamecano or Fofana are in form. Australia probably have less talent than most championship teams but opened up France quite a few times and probably should have scored another. It does seem to me, on these initial games that its the younger players and teams with younger players who are generally shining. If we play France the outcome will depend on how brave Southgate is. If he reverts to his normal timid self and sets out to try to defend and contain them we will undoubtedly lose in a dour game. However, if he is brave enough to shake off the fear and take the game to them we will have a good chance. I suspect he'll succumb to the fear and we'll lose narrowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 France’s midfield is pretty average and I could see us easily see us overrunning and beating them. Although this is before I see us struggle against USA and go full pessimist again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 3 minutes ago, saintant said: If we play France the outcome will depend on how brave Southgate is. If he reverts to his normal timid self and sets out to try to defend and contain them we will undoubtedly lose in a dour game. However, if he is brave enough to shake off the fear and take the game to them we will have a good chance. I suspect he'll succumb to the fear and we'll lose narrowly. Might depend if Walker is fit, he's probably one of the few defenders in the world that can match Mbappe's pace. The problem with playing France on the front foot and being aggressive (which I agree I think with England's attacking talent and speed would trouble that France defence, especially without protection from Kante) is that you'll leave space in behind and Mbappe would thrive. With Walker as insurance as a covering RB or maybe even CB you might more be able to play that way. To be fair to Southgate I was pleasantly surprised by the tempo and attacking play we showed against Iran, yet it's only Iran but England have tended to always make heavy going of beating team's like Iran and have often played too safe but he played with only one DM and the fullbacks pushed really high and wide. But I do think the only way we will beat France is if we outscore them to be honest and manage to shackle Mbappe. I also think some sh*thousery would work well against France, just have a feeling there are a lot of egos in that team and that if you get about them a bit you might get some reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 1 hour ago, whelk said: France’s midfield is pretty average and I could see us easily see us overrunning and beating them. Although this is before I see us struggle against USA and go full pessimist again. I think France will show up our weaknesses if I'm honest. They have a very mobile attack with Dembele, Mbappe and Coman in there. Our weakness is getting caught in behind as our CB's are relatively slow, they could exploit that for fun if we’re not careful. I think being 'brave' and throwing all-out attack at them is the wrong way to approach it, the best way we can do anything against France is to defend deeper so the space to exploit in behind isn't there. I'd argue that our recent runs to the Final/Semi-final have coincided with us playing teams not blessed with that pace and mobility up top, so France would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: I think France will show up our weaknesses if I'm honest. They have a very mobile attack with Dembele, Mbappe and Coman in there. Our weakness is getting caught in behind as our CB's are relatively slow, they could exploit that for fun if we’re not careful. I think being 'brave' and throwing all-out attack at them is the wrong way to approach it, the best way we can do anything against France is to defend deeper so the space to exploit in behind isn't there. I'd argue that our recent runs to the Final/Semi-final have coincided with us playing teams not blessed with that pace and mobility up top, so France would If we try to shackle them there will be only one result because eventually France will break us down and score. We will not hold them out by playing a negative game. How many times do we have to see that tactic fail before we realise it doesn't work? It's what cost us the Euro final when we went into our shell after scoring despite Italy fielding two geriatric centre backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Saints legend Martin Caceras gets a start for Uruguay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 the crowd in this game sounds like a bunch of school kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 1 hour ago, The Cat said: Saints legend Martin Caceras gets a start for Uruguay. I'm not sure if you're joking. Any case decent player😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: the crowd in this game sounds like a bunch of school kids I've wondered how much piped sound we get to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 3 minutes ago, tpbury said: I'm not sure if you're joking. Any case decent player😀 I think he's a great player and find his time at the club to be very bizarre. There must have been something going on behind the scenes which meant he didn't get picked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 1 minute ago, The Cat said: I think he's a great player and find his time at the club to be very bizarre. There must have been something going on behind the scenes which meant he didn't get picked. Les thought Jack Stephens was the new Bobby Moore so insisted he play over Caceres. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 They're still banging on about Bale. He was pretty anonymous all game then scored a penalty FFS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Just listened to Jose Fonte being interviewed in the pre-Portugal build up. I do hope he becomes Saints manager one day. What a good guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnycS Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 (edited) Yes came here to say the same, but I think he might earn more $ and have less stress as a pundit! Edited 24 November, 2022 by HnycS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Salisu, Bella-Kotcha, Yoshida, Caceres, Van Dijk, Lovren, Alderwiereld, Bednarek. If you're in this world cup and haven't played centre back for Southampton you are no one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 One fucking goal today so far. Picked a good day to work hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 49 minutes ago, Turkish said: Salisu, Bella-Kotcha, Yoshida, Caceres, Van Dijk, Lovren, Alderwiereld, Bednarek. If you're in this world cup and haven't played centre back for Southampton you are no one. And Croatian Caleta-Car was unlucky to miss out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Pen or not v Salisu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixedkebab Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Looked like Salisu got the ball to me but very tough one to take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 1 minute ago, bangkoksaint said: Pen or not v Salisu? No pen. Absolute dive from the cheat and not even reviewed by VAR. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Ronaldo decided he was going down before the ball even reached him. Very Salisu tackle though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Classic Ronaldo dive over a classic Salisu clumsy challenge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Looked like Salisu got the ball to me. Typical Ronaldo. I don't care how many of his boots he gives away to disabled kids, he's still a **** 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 ITV do like their player love ins. Messi, Bale and now Ronaldo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Agree with y'all. Never a penalty. It's only cos its Ronaldo the ref is keen to give it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 It was soft, but a stupid challenge, got to be jockeying him there. He does have these rash decisions in him unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 So glad Peter Walton is on hand to liven up proceedings with constantly exciting delivery of his views on referee decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Portugal now falling over and getting everything. Has there ever been a more dislikeable nation in footballing context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Thought referees were being encouraged to let these minimal contacts go yet he gets a penalty for that. Very soft. Great, Ghana have just equalised - now go and win it against these cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 1 minute ago, The Cat said: So glad Peter Walton is on hand to liven up proceedings with constantly exciting delivery of his views on referee decisions. Has he ever disagreed with a referee's decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 1-1 GET IN!!!! Commentators absolutely gutted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 1 minute ago, Tamesaint said: ITV do like their player love ins. Messi, Bale and now Ronaldo. ITV appeal to the sort of people who watch shit like Good Morning Britain and Saturday night celebrity bollocks so they love the common narrative. Anyway, I think that Ghana goal is the most excited I've been about one in the World Cup so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, saintant said: Has he ever disagreed with a referee's decision? It's possible because most people fall asleep or zone out halfway through what he's saying so will never know. Edited 24 November, 2022 by The Cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Sorry, I may have misunderstood, is that commentator implying that Ghana didn't deserve that because they didn't attack from the start?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 1 hour ago, Turkish said: Salisu, Bella-Kotcha, Yoshida, Caceres, Van Dijk, Lovren, Alderwiereld, Bednarek. If you're in this world cup and haven't played centre back for Southampton you are no one. Hmmm…. Now do strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 It's a pity Ally McCoist has got himself involved with ITV because he's great and the rest of them are a bit of a shambles. Gutted, 2-1 Portugal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 1 minute ago, SaintTex said: Hmmm…. Now do strikers. It was once rumoured that Spurs were going to give us £15 million plus Harry Kane for Jay Rodriguez...Does that count? 2-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 3-1 ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Offside surely?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Salisu has given away a penalty, let Felix run past him and not tracked and played Leao onside you can take the boy out of Southampton… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 13 minutes ago, qwertyell said: Classic Ronaldo dive over a classic Salisu clumsy challenge. There was hardly any challenge there. Hardly clumsy. It's a contact sport. You can't just let the oppo run free. Poor referring that was not helped by a lack of VAR involvement. There's probably some quirky VAR law that says it cannot be reviewed if the player is left-handed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 24 November, 2022 Share Posted 24 November, 2022 Ghana shot themselves in the foot twice there. 2 very preventable goals. They'll be celebrating this in the streets of the traditional Portuguese towns and cities like Lisbon, Porto, Lagos, Braga and Wolverhampton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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