Russell Martin

[Midfield_General]

5 hours ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

I like it. Interested in the process working and the rising of Leichester City.

Leichampton, surely. 

Someone somewhere else pointed out that over time they've now recruited almost a quarter of the squad that they beat 9-0 (Bertrand, Vestergaard, Ings and McCarthy) plus the Head of Recruitment who helped build that squad (Glover), as well as the manager who they beat 9-1 on aggregate over the course of a season (Martin) and one of his players (Aribo). 

If you were a Leicester fan you would be within your rights to wonder quite what the appeal is. 

[AlexLaw76]

 

[coalman]

7 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

That's a relief. For a while I was worried that Martin was going to beat himself up over how he did at Saints.

[beatlesaint]

2 minutes ago, coalman said:

That's a relief. For a while I was worried that Martin was going to beat himself up over how he did at Saints.

No danger of that 🤣

[Farmer Saint]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

As I told you all this was our strategy 2 years ago - I'll await my apology from yourself and @CB Fry:

“We made the decision there and then to sign some young players who could develop and, if we got relegated, would really help us the following year. So it was similar to Ipswich in terms of sticking with it and having continuity. “In all the probabilities and data, the club was going to get relegated, but the club would have a right go.”

Edited 17 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[Challenger]

Can't be arsed to read what he said, it would probably bore me as much as his brand of football.

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

Me, me, me, I, I, I ...

[ChrisPY]

Would hate to have seen us not having ‘a right go’.

[Wade Garrett]

He'll turn out to be one of those useless twats who makes a living out of getting sacked.

[tdmickey3]

2 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

He'll turn out to be one of those useless twats who makes a living out of getting sacked.

He already is and does

[westmidlandsaint]

Yes Russ the likelihood was strong that we would go straight back down but it was the manner of it. You didn't/wouldn't adapt your suicidal way of playing and we were practically cannon fodder every week. If we'd gone down fighting and been in with a chance of staying up all season then he may have earned the right to give it another go but we were done for by December. Take some responsibility man!!

[Colinjb]

That was us giving it a right go?

What a delusional fuckwit. Totally incapable of reflection.

Edited 14 hours ago by Colinjb

[Toussaint]

3 hours ago, Challenger said:

Can't be arsed to read what he said, it would probably bore me as much as his brand of football.

It’s not boring, it’s nauseating. 

[Midfield_General]

Good to see that he still genuinely believes that nothing in that humiliation of a season was his fault  then 🤣

It was the club, it was the lack of DoF, it was the strategy, it was the signings… never his tactics or anything to do with him is it 

[HarvSFC]

He thought he was going to do a Vincent Kompany, get a move to an elite club despite relegation because of his possession football. Why he was happy to watch us lose every week and change nothing. Only, Russell Martin didn't have the playing career, nor reputation that Kompany has. Meaning two years later, he's managing in League One.

The Luton squad on paper was worse than ours, hence they got relegated again in the Championship, and they finished 18th. Martin started the season with 13 losses in 16, 1 win and a 5-0 down at half time final game. No manager survives that in the modern game. Not even a two time automatic promotion winning manager in Nigel Adkins could have had that record and not had fans calling for his sacking.

Also, if I recall, Martin had more of a say on who we signed that summer because we didn't have a director of football. He was part of a committee with Mowbray and Kraft/Ankersen? Of course, we didn't get Matt O'Riley, who has since proven to be a waste of money that we fortunately dodged anyway.

[franniesTache]

19 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Good to see that he still genuinely believes that nothing in that humiliation of a season was his fault  then 🤣

It was the club, it was the lack of DoF, it was the strategy, it was the signings… never his tactics or anything to do with him is it 

It was the fans fault for not believing enough, if we'd all just BELIEVED, and TRUSTED THE PROCESS we would've been celebrating with him by drinking the definitely not poisoned in anyway kool aid

[CB Fry]

4 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

As I told you all this was our strategy 2 years ago - I'll await my apology from yourself and @CB Fry:

“We made the decision there and then to sign some young players who could develop and, if we got relegated, would really help us the following year. So it was similar to Ipswich in terms of sticking with it and having continuity. “In all the probabilities and data, the club was going to get relegated, but the club would have a right go.”

Of course "we were going to get relegated anyway, if anything we were planning for it" is absolutely no way post rationalising self justification, no siree.

[kitch]

I'm actually relieved, because for a minute I thought he might take some accountability and change his ways, and that Leicester would prove not to be the impending binfire we all want to laugh at.
He'll win L1, of course, but he'll get worse and worse the higher they get, and eventually it'll turn into a comedy show all over again, only without us as the butt of the joke.

Edited 13 hours ago by kitch

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, Colinjb said:

Totally incapable of reflection.

Unless it’s his in a mirror. 

People wonder this thread keeps going = answer Russell Martin keeps stoking it (I said stoking…).

[AlexLaw76]

Guess the club let him down by not tapping up Rodri and Donnaruma

[Miltonaggro]

7 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

Leicester Lego getting his excuses in early in an attempt to see out the contract, pre-season early. Highly fucking impressive when you think about delusional consistency.

[Southner]

At least he had his way at Rangers.

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

Of course "we were going to get relegated anyway, if anything we were planning for it" is absolutely no way post rationalising self justification, no siree.

Nope, this was the bit you criticised me for and you said we'd never do:

“We made the decision there and then to sign some young players who could develop and, if we got relegated, would really help us the following year."

There were many, many posts. 

Own it. You were wrong.

Edited 11 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[AlexLaw76]

1 hour ago, Southner said:

At least he had his way at Rangers.

🫠

[BarberSaint]

3 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

He thought he was going to do a Vincent Kompany, get a move to an elite club despite relegation because of his possession football. Why he was happy to watch us lose every week and change nothing. Only, Russell Martin didn't have the playing career, nor reputation that Kompany has. Meaning two years later, he's managing in League One.

The Luton squad on paper was worse than ours, hence they got relegated again in the Championship, and they finished 18th. Martin started the season with 13 losses in 16, 1 win and a 5-0 down at half time final game. No manager survives that in the modern game. Not even a two time automatic promotion winning manager in Nigel Adkins could have had that record and not had fans calling for his sacking.

Also, if I recall, Martin had more of a say on who we signed that summer because we didn't have a director of football. He was part of a committee with Mowbray and Kraft/Ankersen? Of course, we didn't get Matt O'Riley, who has since proven to be a waste of money that we fortunately dodged anyway.

But he did blag the Rangers gig, and for him that was the equivalent of a top top top top club.

[Midfield_General]

All these signed that summer, on his watch:

 

Adam Lallana (36)

Charlie Taylor (30)

Ryan Fraser (30)

Maxwel Cornet (27)

Aaron Ramsdale (26)

Flynn Downes (25)

Ben Brereton Diaz (25)

Yuki Sugawara (24)

 

Yeah, he really got stitched up with a team full of kids who were brought in for the future. 

The fact is that he signed off on poor quality players coming in because he totally underestimated the required level of the Premier League, then compounded it by sending them out to get slaughtered every week playing his suicidal tactics. 

Two of the young players he did have - Dibling and Fernandes - were two of our best players that season. They were let down by having to play in a team which was full of dross and poorly managed. 

He is just pathologically incapable of accepting he is ever at fault. 

 

Edited 8 hours ago by Midfield_General

[Saint Keef]

6 hours ago, BarberSaint said:

But he did blag the Rangers gig, and for him that was the equivalent of a top top top top club.

Yeah, I agree and that went well for him....NOT. When we got promoted I really think it was despite him, not because of him. Unfortunately for him he has over acheived in the buisness of bullshit and seriously under acheived in the business of football management.

[Miltonaggro]

3 hours ago, Saint Keef said:

Yeah, I agree and that went well for him....NOT. When we got promoted I really think it was despite him, not because of him. Unfortunately for him he has over acheived in the buisness of bullshit and seriously under acheived in the business of football management.

I said at the time that the highlight and peak of his managerial career would likely be the play off win with Saints. Stand by this.