Badger Posted October 4 Posted October 4 On 01/10/2025 at 20:44, saintant said: Not if Stewart manages to stay fit. Think you knew how this might turn out when you typed that didn’t you ? 2
stknowle Posted October 4 Posted October 4 On 30/09/2025 at 22:23, stknowle said: If he stays fit he’s our man. Big if. Really disappointed but not in the least bit surprised. Players that are out for as long as he was never properly return.
Lighthouse Posted October 4 Posted October 4 Just now, stknowle said: Really disappointed but not in the least bit surprised. Players that are out for as long as he was never properly return. Plenty do, we'll just have to hope this injury isn't too bad. Sadly a hammy will probably see him out until Christmas or so.
stknowle Posted October 4 Posted October 4 50 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Plenty do Genuinely interested to hear your examples.
Turkish Posted October 4 Posted October 4 It’s a real shame for us and for him. we’ve had a little glimpse of what might have been. He looks like he could have been an absolute beast in the championship and possibly half decent in the premier league. I didn’t realise until just now he’s only ever played more than 30 games ina season once and that was in league one for Sunderland. Didn’t check the reasons why but can only assume it’s injuries as ability wise he seems to have an awful lot in his locker 3
Lighthouse Posted October 4 Posted October 4 4 minutes ago, stknowle said: Genuinely interested to hear your examples. Shearer, RVN, Pires, Roy Keane, Del Piero, VVD…
Turkish Posted October 4 Posted October 4 6 minutes ago, stknowle said: Genuinely interested to hear your examples. Shearer and Van Dijk are the only ones I can think of that had a serious injury and got back to near their best. I can’t think of anyone else who’s had a serious injury and returned 1
CSA96 Posted October 4 Posted October 4 (edited) Thought he looked bloody good in the first 30 today and was bringing better performances out of those around him too. Fuck sake. Gutted for him but how we've let ourselves become so reliant on him is just a result of awful squad planning Edited October 4 by CSA96 8
Turkish Posted October 4 Posted October 4 2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Shearer, RVN, Pires, Roy Keane, Del Piero, VVD… All good calls, but still the exception rather than norm
saintant Posted October 4 Posted October 4 Well if he is injured long term we need to sign one of the free agents because relying on Downs is not an option. Emmanuel Dennis is available and he's played for Watford and Forest. He's not perfect but he'd be far more use than Downes. Not the tallest though at 5'9". Got to bite the bullet and find the best free agent we can if Stewart is going to be side-lined for long which is likely the case and we've seen how much time he takes to get back up to speed after injuries. A mess of the club's own making with Spors among the guilty parties.
Turkish Posted October 4 Posted October 4 (edited) 13 minutes ago, saintant said: Well if he is injured long term we need to sign one of the free agents because relying on Downs is not an option. Emmanuel Dennis is available and he's played for Watford and Forest. He's not perfect but he'd be far more use than Downes. Not the tallest though at 5'9". Got to bite the bullet and find the best free agent we can if Stewart is going to be side-lined for long which is likely the case and we've seen how much time he takes to get back up to speed after injuries. A mess of the club's own making with Spors among the guilty parties. Pointless signing him when we’ve got archer who is the same height and probably a better player btw I just checked their goal scoring history. Denis has scored 16 goals in 77 appearances in English football archer has 25 in 121 and is 4 years younger Denis isn’t the answer Edited October 4 by Turkish 1
danjosaint Posted October 4 Posted October 4 Another poster mentioned Taiwo Awoniyi , down the pecking order attend forest and could definitely do a job for us 3
CSA96 Posted October 4 Posted October 4 3 minutes ago, danjosaint said: Another poster mentioned Taiwo Awoniyi , down the pecking order attend forest and could definitely do a job for us Yes, very much the right profile 2
stknowle Posted October 5 Posted October 5 3 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Shearer, RVN, Pires, Roy Keane, Del Piero, VVD… Thanks, decent shouts (presumably, in the cases of RVN, Pires and Del Piero whose injury records I have absolutely zero recollection of). That said RS has effectively been injured for 3 entire seasons, Shearer, Keane, VVD not as long. TBH I’m just fucked off that after finally seeing him put in a good display and looking capable of being ‘the answer’ he’s back out again, however predictable that was. Hope he gets back quickly and permanently but, let’s face it, he almost certainly won’t.
bangkoksaint Posted October 5 Posted October 5 People talking about bringing players in is fine but if we wait until January our race I feel will very much have been run. But then it’s a case of whoever is a free agent is a free agent for a reason. Maybe a reset on our seasons expectations is what’s required. 1
Sheaf Saint Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Looking likely that we will end up looking back at his time here and saying "Well, we'll always have Bramall Lane and that goal". 2
Mboto Gorge Posted October 5 Posted October 5 54 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said: People talking about bringing players in is fine but if we wait until January our race I feel will very much have been run. But then it’s a case of whoever is a free agent is a free agent for a reason. Maybe a reset on our seasons expectations is what’s required. So what we are saying here is, yet again we should just accept and resign ourselves to a season of achieving far less than we’d have accepted before a ball was kicked in the summer, because yet again our owners have been negligent and incompetent in their recruitment? Brilliant. It’s the saints way now under these idiots. 4
benjii Posted October 5 Posted October 5 It's a big blow if he's out for a while, but let’s not use this to give Still and the coaches another excuse. If we can't regular wins from a squad that has Archer, Armstrong, Fellows, Scienza, Azaz, Robinson, Fraser, Aribo (?!?!), Edozie (?!?!) available, plus three very good Champ centre midfielders, then we are failing. 15
beatlesaint Posted October 5 Posted October 5 32 minutes ago, benjii said: It's a big blow if he's out for a while, but let’s not use this to give Still and the coaches another excuse. If we can't regular wins from a squad that has Archer, Armstrong, Fellows, Scienza, Azaz, Robinson, Fraser, Aribo (?!?!), Edozie (?!?!) available, plus three very good Champ centre midfielders, then we are failing. I'm no fan of Aribo BUT he has played up front for Rangers. He's got to offer more in the centre forward role than Downs ffs, if Ross is gonna be missing a while its got to be worth a shot. 16
Sheaf Saint Posted October 5 Posted October 5 1 minute ago, beatlesaint said: I'm no fan of Aribo BUT he has played up front for Rangers. He's got to offer more in the centre forward role than Downs ffs, if Ross is gonna be missing a while its got to be worth a shot. One of Aribo's great strengths has always been that he is hard to dispossess. If we're looking for someone to hold the ball up in the final third and bring others into play then JA is ideal for that role. 18
Harry_SFC Posted October 5 Posted October 5 8 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: I'm no fan of Aribo BUT he has played up front for Rangers. He's got to offer more in the centre forward role than Downs ffs, if Ross is gonna be missing a while its got to be worth a shot. It's probably the most logical thing to do, so it'll never happen. 4 2
Colinjb Posted October 5 Posted October 5 13 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: I'm no fan of Aribo BUT he has played up front for Rangers. He's got to offer more in the centre forward role than Downs ffs, if Ross is gonna be missing a while its got to be worth a shot. Started as a striker in a Europa League final, scoring the first goal. Why not at least try! Makes no sense. 3
saintant Posted October 5 Posted October 5 10 hours ago, danjosaint said: Another poster mentioned Taiwo Awoniyi , down the pecking order attend forest and could definitely do a job for us But if Stewart is out for a long period we need someone now which means the free agent market.
Lee On Solent Saint Posted October 5 Posted October 5 14 minutes ago, Colinjb said: Started as a striker in a Europa League final, scoring the first goal. Why not at least try! Makes no sense. I doubt will ever see Aribo in a Saints shirt again. 4 2
SotonianWill Posted October 5 Posted October 5 14 minutes ago, Colinjb said: Started as a striker in a Europa League final, scoring the first goal. Why not at least try! Makes no sense. Just stop, you’re all making too much sense. This type of logical decision-making means it will never happen. Downs it is. 1 1
S-Clarke Posted October 5 Posted October 5 On 01/10/2025 at 12:43, SW5 SAINT said: His contract ends next summer, if we wait until then he’s a free agent…. And this is exactly why we wait. He's now out for another prolonged period, without doubt. If I was the club I wouldn't ever contemplate offering him a new deal, I'd let him walk on a free and spend free wages on a striker we can actually rely on. (although the chances of SR scouting an adequate player are slim you'd have to say) 6
Miltonaggro Posted October 5 Posted October 5 16 hours ago, stknowle said: Genuinely interested to hear your examples. Danny Ings, most obvious for us after Liverpool, perhaps.
Miltonaggro Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Here’s the current Spors’ pay as you play option list, but he wont want to admit he fucked up on Downs.
saintant Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Anyone heard any news on the severity of Stewart's injury?
Badger Posted October 5 Posted October 5 6 minutes ago, saintant said: Anyone heard any news on the severity of Stewart's injury? Based on earlier reports, he’s two weeks away … 1 20
stknowle Posted October 5 Posted October 5 1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said: Here’s the current Spors’ pay as you play option list, but he wont want to admit he fucked up on Downs. Maybe we should take a punt on the ironically named Isaac Success.
Miltonaggro Posted October 5 Posted October 5 27 minutes ago, stknowle said: Maybe we should take a punt on the ironically named Isaac Success. Would make a change, knowing Spors it would be Assan Ceesay(s scoring ever again!)
M271 Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Is Oyekunle our u21 striker not considered promising enough to, if not start, then be in the match day squad as an option. I haven’t seen any u21 games so I don’t know how competent he is or ready for first team contention. 1
Football Special Posted October 5 Posted October 5 10 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: I doubt will ever see Aribo in a Saints shirt again. How come? Considering we're playing him , is it another ABK situation? If he's not in Nigeria squad then two weeks for Still to try him out in training again
captainchris Posted October 5 Posted October 5 2 hours ago, M271 said: Is Oyekunle our u21 striker not considered promising enough to, if not start, then be in the match day squad as an option. I haven’t seen any u21 games so I don’t know how competent he is or ready for first team contention. Yes, this guy has been scoring for fun over two seasons at least so why on earth are we not putting him in….
captainchris Posted October 5 Posted October 5 We do have options in attack all of which would be an improvement on Downs who needs to be in the under 18s for a while to coach him and evaluate whether he will ever make it. Have to say that continuing to play him is taking the piss out of supporters and the other players, he isn’t ready (or good enough) at the moment.
ally_uk Posted October 5 Posted October 5 https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/25145699.southampton-starlet-now-all-time-leading-scorer-u18-premier-league/ Could be worth a go ? Can't be any worse than downs....
Verbal Posted October 5 Posted October 5 5 hours ago, saintant said: Anyone heard any news on the severity of Stewart's injury? Saintsweb is truly a mine of lack of information 1 1
Lee On Solent Saint Posted October 5 Posted October 5 1 hour ago, Football Special said: How come? Considering we're playing him , is it another ABK situation? If he's not in Nigeria squad then two weeks for Still to try him out in training again it's been over a month since the transfer window shut, he's not even made a squad since then. Tells me he has no future here at all. 1
die Mannyschaft Posted October 7 Posted October 7 On 05/10/2025 at 15:57, saintant said: Anyone heard any news on the severity of Stewart's injury? I've just had a scan and got slight torn ligament in groin , thought was my hernia mesh. No walking football for few weeks so I'm ruled out for Swansea and Bristol City. NHS Winchester very good service. Perhaps Saints need to go there might be quicker !!
St. Ciervo Posted Wednesday at 02:09 Posted Wednesday at 02:09 Its a hamstring. He might feel like he is ready to come back soon, but that injury persists. He is out until Christmas... if he plays sooner, it will be limited and with zero impact.
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 09:09 Posted Wednesday at 09:09 On 05/10/2025 at 16:44, stknowle said: Maybe we should take a punt on the ironically named Isaac Success. We don't breed success we buy it. 3
Saint Matty 76 Posted Wednesday at 13:40 Posted Wednesday at 13:40 Don't need to keep beating the dead horse on the disaster of signing off on the deal in the first place, but it's even more of a shame to have seen a glimpse of his true quality for the first time before this has happened again. Desperately unlucky guy. 4 1
Osvaldorama Posted Wednesday at 13:43 Posted Wednesday at 13:43 Sad, but obvious. We’re in big trouble now tbh. Strikerless is not a good place to be. It was stupid to put this much faith in his fitness. 4
BARCELONASAINT Posted Wednesday at 13:51 Posted Wednesday at 13:51 It really is a very depressing time to be a Saints fan because there is absolutely no excuse from the club for being in this position. The whole bloody football world could see we were crying out for a striker last season. There was so much time to plan for this season in that department and not gamble on a player that has barely played a minute since he joined us and purchase a totally unproven American at this level. We are truly up shit creek without a paddle in regards to forwards and this is entirely down to absolutely mental recruitment in the striker position. 19
sockeye Posted Wednesday at 13:56 Posted Wednesday at 13:56 Greed has caused this situation. And I’m sorry to say but the greed starts with Solak. 2
Football Special Posted Wednesday at 13:57 Posted Wednesday at 13:57 2 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said: It really is a very depressing time to be a Saints fan because there is absolutely no excuse from the club for being in this position. The whole bloody football world could see we were crying out for a striker last season. There was so much time to plan for this season in that department and not gamble on a player that has barely played a minute since he joined us and purchase a totally unproven American at this level. We are truly up shit creek without a paddle in regards to forwards and this is entirely down to absolutely mental recruitment in the striker position. Disappointing but entirely predictable We already didn't look like we'd score enough goals to challenge 3
Obstacle1 Posted Wednesday at 15:53 Posted Wednesday at 15:53 1 hour ago, sockeye said: Greed has caused this situation. And I’m sorry to say but the greed starts with Solak. Seems more like incompetence than greed. I think they've shown they're willing to spend on players but haven't identified the right positions, striker being the most notable issue 6
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