Yorkshire Saint Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) Looking forward to this one. Think that we are sold out again. My 2nd visit to Rotherham, different ground, different tournament. No Strachan or Delgado this time... In the spirit of keeping us competitive and not tempting fate.. 3-1 Rotherham. Bazuna KWP Manning THB Bednerak Downes Smallbone S Armstrong A Armstrong Che Frazer Saints still on for the double after we smash the scousers though.. Edited January 28 by Yorkshire Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Looking forward to it, we owe them one after the home game. Another ground ticked off too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Should be a routine away win. Has to be a routine away win. All of the top four away, ours is the easiest game Leicester away at stoke Ipswich away at Preston Leeds away at Bristol City we have to win this 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Turkish said: Should be a routine away win. Has to be a routine away win. All of the top four away, ours is the easiest game Leicester away at stoke Ipswich away at Preston Leeds away at Bristol City we have to win this We certainly owe them for their smash and grab draw at St Marys. Could see Leeds slipping up but the other two should win comfortably. Agree with the OP regarding the team. Pretty much picks itself at the moment. Edited January 28 by Harry_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Turkish said: Should be a routine away win. Has to be a routine away win. All of the top four away, ours is the easiest game Leicester away at stoke Ipswich away at Preston Leeds away at Bristol City we have to win this You'd think if we do win that at least one of them will drop points. Big game as always. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) Rotherham = bogey team , that draw earlier this season was ridiculous, Martin got upset being booed off. Too much to me to you no end product passing in that one. Not beaten them since 1964-65 season , 6 games since then. Saw us lose there in 2002 FA Cup, awful performance at Millmoor. 2008 again terrible in the league Cup, think that was Don Valley stadium in Sheffield. 2024 - nice to tick off another new ground , 2,444 sold out away end, good numbers, looks a nice compact little ground, 11k capacity so we'll have fair chunk of the crowd. Train strike on East Midlands Trains causing problems. Edited January 28 by JRM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Must win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Same team as Swansea i feel, Only additions to the bench hopefully of Kamaldeen and a new RW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 11 hours ago, JRM said: You can certainly see why they were so popular with the young lassies ….if you look closely once seen can’t be unseen… Edited January 29 by TheAlehouseBrawlers 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 (edited) 52 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: Same team as Swansea i feel, Only additions to the bench hopefully of Kamaldeen and a new RW. Benson for benches. Expecting blanket coverage on this one this week ... Edited January 29 by Yorkshire Saint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Revenge for that smash and grab at St Mary’s please. Don’t think I’ve ever seen us dominate a game so much and not win. Still annoys me now. Go full throttle like we did in the first 45 vs Swansea and they won’t be able to live with us. 0-4, 23 unbeaten. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Anything but a dominant victory will be very dissapointing. An early goal is key. We need to play with the intent and intensity we did at Swansea - do that, take our chances and we'll win comfortably. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 If it all goes our way, we could make the top two on genuine merit for the first time this season, rather than by a simple quirk of having played our fixture first. Here’s hoping we can turn in a few away goals and make it comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Anything other than a very comfortable win would be disappointing. If we play like we did against Swansea early doors, we could easily be 3-0 up at half time and cruise to three points. And tbh, if we play like we did aginst them at home, we will again win quite comfortably, we're better at putting teams to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 30 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: Anything other than a very comfortable win would be disappointing. If we play like we did against Swansea early doors, we could easily be 3-0 up at half time and cruise to three points. And tbh, if we play like we did aginst them at home, we will again win quite comfortably, we're better at putting teams to bed. Indeed. We were very dominant when we played them at SMS, but it was not long after our terrible September form and we were still adapting to RM's tactics and struggling to kill teams off. We've improved massively since then (if you ignore the poor performance of our reserves in the first half on Sunday), and have become much more ruthless. Rovrum are a very poor team, with much less quality than Swansea. They are bottom of the league with a GD of -27. I'll be very surprised if they manage to stop us scoring more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 39 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Indeed. We were very dominant when we played them at SMS, but it was not long after our terrible September form and we were still adapting to RM's tactics and struggling to kill teams off. We've improved massively since then (if you ignore the poor performance of our reserves in the first half on Sunday), and have become much more ruthless. Rovrum are a very poor team, with much less quality than Swansea. They are bottom of the league with a GD of -27. I'll be very surprised if they manage to stop us scoring more than once. Thing is, what you say is correct, but football works in funny ways. Leicester were lucky to win there, Ipswich drew, Leeds drew, so they have a system that has worked well at home against "top sides" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 16 minutes ago, JRM said: Thing is, what you say is correct, but football works in funny ways. Leicester were lucky to win there, Ipswich drew, Leeds drew, so they have a system that has worked well at home against "top sides" 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 They are such a limited team but despite their poor GD they do actually have a very good goalkeeper who will surely be snapped up next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said: Indeed. We were very dominant when we played them at SMS, Stuart Armstrong scored after 2 minutes and then it looked as though we would get a bucket load of goals before HT. Our 80% possession (was the highest against any side) and we had 22 shots to 4, and their late goal was a lucky punt from outside of the area. Their goalkeeper was outstanding on the day, and had his share of luck. We don't want a repeat of that performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 We were no better (or worse) than them at SMS. It was 50/50, almost like poetry in motion, absolute nats gonad between the sides...right? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 59 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: We were no better (or worse) than them at SMS. It was 50/50, almost like poetry in motion, absolute nats gonad between the sides...right? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 20 hours ago, JRM said: Rotherham = bogey team , that draw earlier this season was ridiculous, Martin got upset being booed off. Too much to me to you no end product passing in that one. Not beaten them since 1964-65 season , 6 games since then. Saw us lose there in 2002 FA Cup, awful performance at Millmoor. 2008 again terrible in the league Cup, think that was Don Valley stadium in Sheffield. 2024 - nice to tick off another new ground , 2,444 sold out away end, good numbers, looks a nice compact little ground, 11k capacity so we'll have fair chunk of the crowd. Train strike on East Midlands Trains causing problems. I wasn’t aware of the history and had forgotten some of those games. The match that sticks in my mind is 1983 League Cup tie at their place. Shilton was injured or ill so we started with Ally Sperring in goal. After about 5 minutes he came for a cross and clobbered our CB Mark Wright breaking his nose. Lost 2-1. Don’t think Sperring played for us again. So losing the match, and one of our best players the same match. I know that was their old ground but seems Rotherham is jinxed for us. Perhaps we should take the White Witch with the team on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I don’t believe in jinxes. They got lucky as fuck at st Mary’s, we owe them one. Barry and Paul, your boys are getting it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 (edited) 13 hours ago, gio1saints said: As some esteemed posters have made VERY saintly clear above, if we do not win this match against Rotherham and all the other teams win their away matches then it quite literally is THE END OF THE WORLD !!! If indeed it is the END OF THE WORLD I for one have got my bug out bag ready, just need to retreat to my bunker top up my water, sharpen my camping knife and sit out the breakdown of civilisation as we know it that will erupt should the unthinkable non massacre of Rotherham happen. And in years to come ancient historians may be able to trace the cataclysm back to a little web forum thing called “ Match day “ for saints fans v Rotherham that was the spark that set the whole world on fire and so began THE END OF THE WORLD. NB They might even make a film about it bit like Legend but with Russell Martin as the sole survivor living comfortably on shoots, berries, grass and plentiful (but contaminated) freshwater. 😄 ..and to think I was the one that started the thread that sparked it all off. I will be immortal. Hope the outlook for your day gets better 🙏 Edited January 30 by Yorkshire Saint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 51 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: I don’t believe in jinxes. They got lucky as fuck at st Mary’s, we owe them one. Barry and Paul, your boys are getting it Don't be daft. In a world where it is not possible to be the better team and lose a match or the worst team on the pitch and still win, there is no such thing as 'luck'. In a 1-1 draw, both teams were equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Weston Super Saint said: Don't be daft. In a world where it is not possible to be the better team and lose a match or the worst team on the pitch and still win, there is no such thing as 'luck'. In a 1-1 draw, both teams were equal. Bit early to be on the sauce isn’t it fella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Osvaldorama said: Bit early to be on the sauce isn’t it fella? I'm just repeating the conclusions of the forum great and good. Resistence is futile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 If Fraser is unfit will SAA get a start over Mara? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 28 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: If Fraser is unfit will SAA get a start over Mara? Neither of them will start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losgigantes Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 It really annoyed me how Rotherham time wasted from the first minute at our earlier encounter. They are not alone in this against us. Can't understand how referees are reluctant to book goalkeepers early on, so annoying that they don't. The real answer is for us to score two or more early goals but we seem reluctant to do that too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio1saints Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 2 hours ago, losgigantes said: It really annoyed me how Rotherham time wasted from the first minute at our earlier encounter. They are not alone in this against us. Can't understand how referees are reluctant to book goalkeepers early on, so annoying that they don't. The real answer is for us to score two or more early goals but we seem reluctant to do that too! It used to really annoy me as well. 👍. Still does. But then I found a way to turn that frustration into quiet acceptance and even content - because I realised what it actually ( usually) means: 1. We have intimidated the opponents - they are already happy to not lose or “ hold on” rather than proactively win. Psychologically speaking playing not to lose or hold onto a narrow lead is much weaker than playing to win. Suggests we have the upper hand / mental advantage - they have conceded this to us and we should take advantage of that mentality. 2. On this unbeaten run we have been ahead for the overwhelmingly vast majority of the time - so it’s actually their own time to equalise or somehow get back into the game that these teams have been wasting. Even before we are ahead. It seems counterintuitive when we are drawing ( or very rarely, behind) but overall this default time wasting that so many teams are doing v Saints is actually working in our favour. 3. Another factor also in our favour when opponents timewaste is the number of goals we score v conceded in the last quarter. Generally speaking, The longer the game goes on into injury time this season the greater chances we have to score more than we concede. 4. Our style of play means opponents are chasing the ball most or all game. By the last quarter some teams have been out on their feet physically. If the game is prolonged even further our better fitness / legs becomes even more potentially important. 5. The longer the game the more likely we will play all our substitutes - and probably the opponents will do too. On balance we have one of the best squads in this league ( if not the best!?) - so our subs are typically better than opponents subs. This also gives us advantage in the latter stages of prolonged by time wasting matches. Edited January 30 by gio1saints 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Time wasting doesn't annoy me because there's games in which we do it. You can't get pissed off with the other team for trying when we'd do exactly the same in that circumstance. It's up to refs to add more time on if it happens. Fair to get annoyed at the ref if he doesn't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5-0 to the Saints. Proper revenge for managing not to win the first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 We stride into the northern shithole and walk away with a 4-0 victory. Stick that in your till Arkwright, you Yorkshire cunt. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Bottom of the league... Obviously the end of our run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Rotherham have drawn a lot of home games - more than they have lost. This suggests a battle to unlock their defence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, waylander said: Rotherham have drawn a lot of home games - more than they have lost. This suggests a battle to unlock their defence. it should not be, they are pretty rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 18 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: it should not be, they are pretty rubbish Teams are always more difficult if they're setup for a 0-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Teams are always more difficult if they're setup for a 0-0. Rotherham are crap. They have lost the 3rd most games this season and sit bottom of the league. Whilst we have just signed the likes of David Brooks, anything other than a win is a terrible result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Rotherham are crap. They have lost the 3rd most games this season and sit bottom of the league. Whilst we have just signed the likes of David Brooks, anything other than a win is a terrible result I agree we should win but I'm almost certain there will still be some games this year that we will draw that we should really have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 43 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Rotherham are crap. They have lost the 3rd most games this season and sit bottom of the league. Whilst we have just signed the likes of David Brooks, anything other than a win is a terrible result Lets not forget both Leeds and Ipswich failed to win at their place this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Lets not forget both Leeds and Ipswich failed to win at their place this season. It's pointless mentioning that. Everything is so simple in Alex's world. I wonder if he still thinks our manager is a cretin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 43 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Lets not forget both Leeds and Ipswich failed to win at their place this season. Exactly. Exhibit A and B for why it is not an automatic three points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Banana skin. 3-1 Rotherham. Complacency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 We'll absolutely rinse them. 5-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east-stand-nic Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Slow start from us here as we will have lost our rhythm from the FA cup tinkering. We might even go a goal down from a mess up at the back early doors. However, I just cannot contemplate anything other than a win here. We will be strong in the end, as we often are and walk out 1-3 winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 If we do go a goal down this will be a very difficult match. An early goal is needed to draw Rotherham onto us. We should win and I think we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 If we can get an early goal and disrupt them hopefully it will be routine but if we don't they'll sit back and it could get a bit hairy. Got to take those chances when they come. Also Leeds may well be 2 points ahead of us going into this game albeit having played 2 more. They are all pressure games now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 30/01/2024 at 19:02, Wade Garrett said: We stride into the northern shithole and walk away with a 4-0 victory. Stick that in your till Arkwright, you Yorkshire cunt. Admirable constraint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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