hypochondriac Posted May 23 Posted May 23 16 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: This is why I always hate the common get out clubs make in transfer windows. ''If they're not better than what we've got, then we will not panic'' If the scouts aren't finding better than the likes of Adam Armstrong, Smallbone, Fraser, Edozie etc then the problem is with them, not that there's no one better out there. It's a common get out clubs use, such as us, and it basically equates to them saying ''we are absolutley shit at scouting, we've picked a couple of good players, if we can't get them we have no where else to turn''. Indeed. I could even forgive us having weaknesses last year if lots of people did turn us down but the lack of strengthening over almost the entire team is utterly damming. The only places we actually strengthened were attacking midfield (even that's arguable without Stuart Armstrong) and goalkeeper. The fact we've had Bree, Smallbone, Onuachu and Manning playing a reasonable amount of games for us this year it's actually not surprising we've done as bad as we have done. Not a single team in Premier league history would have done that. Even Luton and Blackpool strengthened more when they got promoted. 3
Chez Posted May 23 Posted May 23 7 hours ago, Andrew Watson said: Shankland is not good enough, like Kris Boyd he has scored plenty of goals in Scotland and that is his limit. If he was any good Rangers or Celtic would have signed him. In the championship in England Boyd scored 1 every 3 games and was loaned out by Boro. If we sign Shankland it would more than likely be a total disaster,assuming the rumours are true,of course. after two good seasons, he only scored 8 goals this season. 1
Andrew Watson Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Michael Mandron scores goals in the scottish premier league Chez,the same player who was at Eastleigh and Hartlepool. If we cannot do better than Shankland we are in for a really poor season. [ Which we will any way,unless we get rid of the great piles of deadwood and get in some decent players who really want to be at the club. ] 3
Holmes_and_Watson Posted May 24 Posted May 24 A little early, but our annually linked Brandon Williams is available after getting a suspended prison sentence. Since he can play left back, no doubt he's somewhere on SR's radar. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cly36z3lep5o 3
Disco Stu Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: A little early, but our annually linked Brandon Williams is available after getting a suspended prison sentence. Since he can play left back, no doubt he's somewhere on SR's radar. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cly36z3lep5o He'd still be an upgrade on Manning in all fairness. Edited May 24 by Disco Stu 1
Miltonaggro Posted May 24 Posted May 24 Heard in the week that we’ve been having a close look at Patterson the Sunderland keeper as a possible replacement for Ramsdale. On today’s showing in the play off final, assuming Sunderland get beat, I hope that is the case.
ErwinK1961 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 26 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said: Heard in the week that we’ve been having a close look at Patterson the Sunderland keeper as a possible replacement for Ramsdale. On today’s showing in the play off final, assuming Sunderland get beat, I hope that is the case. Think we can forget that now. 2
Miltonaggro Posted May 24 Posted May 24 5 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Think we can forget that now. Yep.
bangkoksaint Posted May 24 Posted May 24 This what Blades fans think of BBD…….not that I thought they’d take him off our hands but he’ll be a difficult sell: BBD -1 - Jesus. One of the most laughable performances I've seen from the bench. Came on. Lost the ball. Got booked because he can't be arsed to run backwards. Lost the ball. Got injured. If he got the nod ahead of JRS then Wilder needs to look long and hard in a mirror.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted May 24 Posted May 24 3 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said: This what Blades fans think of BBD…….not that I thought they’d take him off our hands but he’ll be a difficult sell: BBD -1 - Jesus. One of the most laughable performances I've seen from the bench. Came on. Lost the ball. Got booked because he can't be arsed to run backwards. Lost the ball. Got injured. If he got the nod ahead of JRS then Wilder needs to look long and hard in a mirror. A spot on assessment of his day. 2
coalman Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) 13 hours ago, bangkoksaint said: This what Blades fans think of BBD…….not that I thought they’d take him off our hands but he’ll be a difficult sell: BBD -1 - Jesus. One of the most laughable performances I've seen from the bench. Came on. Lost the ball. Got booked because he can't be arsed to run backwards. Lost the ball. Got injured. If he got the nod ahead of JRS then Wilder needs to look long and hard in a mirror. And to think it only took Saints a few months to coach that into him. Imagine what we could have achieved if he'd been here the whole season. Edited May 25 by coalman 6
Lighthouse Posted May 24 Posted May 24 10 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: A little early, but our annually linked Brandon Williams is available after getting a suspended prison sentence. Since he can play left back, no doubt he's somewhere on SR's radar. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cly36z3lep5o Christ, you’ve got to feel sorry for the poor lad there, getting sent back to Man United instead of prison. 12
trousers Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, Miltonaggro said: Heard in the week that we’ve been having a close look at Patterson the Sunderland keeper as a possible replacement for Ramsdale. On today’s showing in the play off final, assuming Sunderland get beat, I hope that is the case. 2 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said: Think we can forget that now. Might that depend on whether Sunderland see him as a Premier League level keeper or not? In theory, them going up could make it more likely we'll sign him, rather than less... (McCarthy is a decent championship keeper, but not really good enough for the PL, for example) (Caveat: I've no idea how good he is so I could be talking bollocks, just for a change ) Edited May 24 by trousers 1
skintsaint Posted May 24 Posted May 24 2 hours ago, Miltonaggro said: Heard in the week that we’ve been having a close look at Patterson the Sunderland keeper as a possible replacement for Ramsdale. On today’s showing in the play off final, assuming Sunderland get beat, I hope that is the case. Loan swap Ramsdale for Patterson for a season. Everyones a winner. 2
Ekelund Posted May 24 Posted May 24 21 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Loan swap Ramsdale for Patterson for a season. Everyones a winner. Not sure Patterson, the Sunderland fan, would agree mind
Badger Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 hour ago, skintsaint said: Loan swap Ramsdale for Patterson for a season. Everyones a winner. Was hoping we might have had an exchange involving Cooper at Sheff Utd had they gone up ( with some £ coming out way as well, and not on a loan). Not to be.
Jaime Posted May 24 Posted May 24 If we are thinking of keepers, then Owen Goodman may be worth a shout (??) Whether Palace want to sell is one thing, but they will at least want to loan him out to a team in the Championship 1
Miltonaggro Posted May 24 Posted May 24 3 hours ago, skintsaint said: Loan swap Ramsdale for Patterson for a season. Everyones a winner. Far too sensible.
Saint Neil Posted May 24 Posted May 24 23 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Werder are interested in Kotchap....apparently. Sauce? 2
Holmes_and_Watson Posted May 24 Posted May 24 Just now, Saint Neil said: Sauce? No, Kotchap, not Ketchup. 🙂
Verbal Posted May 24 Posted May 24 7 hours ago, Miltonaggro said: Heard in the week that we’ve been having a close look at Patterson the Sunderland keeper as a possible replacement for Ramsdale. On today’s showing in the play off final, assuming Sunderland get beat, I hope that is the case. Well there goes that dream
Chez Posted May 25 Posted May 25 11 hours ago, skintsaint said: Werder are interested in Kotchap....apparently. Borussia Mönchengladbach too. 1
Saint Fan CaM Posted May 25 Posted May 25 8 minutes ago, Chez said: Borussia Mönchengladbach too. Until they conduct more than a half-arsed medical, then all bets are off!
Smirking_Saint Posted May 25 Posted May 25 11 hours ago, skintsaint said: Werder are interested in Kotchap....apparently. Id genuinely forgot he existed
Suhari Posted May 25 Posted May 25 11 hours ago, Saint Neil said: Sauce? He is somethign of a sour kraut.
Willo of Whiteley Posted May 25 Posted May 25 Bella-Kotchap is going to be linked with every German club going. It’s agent talk, but also probably the most likely. I imagine he’s on the “get rid at all costs” list 🤣 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted May 25 Posted May 25 It’s interesting seeing m everyone’s opinion on the squad for next season and who should stay and go, but also realistic who will still be here at the end of the window
Chez Posted May 25 Posted May 25 38 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: Bella-Kotchap is going to be linked with every German club going. It’s agent talk, but also probably the most likely. I imagine he’s on the “get rid at all costs” list 🤣 You are probably right. Both parties will want a move, again, but finding a home will be tough. Perhaps the reduction of wage on relegation (assuming he has one) will help facilitate it.
Danbert Posted May 25 Posted May 25 15 minutes ago, Chez said: You are probably right. Both parties will want a move, again, but finding a home will be tough. Perhaps the reduction of wage on relegation (assuming he has one) will help facilitate it. I was thinking he might be sent to Turkey
hypochondriac Posted May 25 Posted May 25 1 hour ago, Chez said: Borussia Mönchengladbach too. Does anyone remember from years back that penalty shooting game that we played trying to get saints to the top of the league and the biggest rivals on there were monchengladbach?
Holmes_and_Watson Posted May 25 Posted May 25 29 minutes ago, Master Bates said: We probably managed to put in a really low bid, ahead of haggling, and missed out getting a player from our own group. 🙂 2
Smirking_Saint Posted May 25 Posted May 25 15 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: We probably managed to put in a really low bid, ahead of haggling, and missed out getting a player from our own group. 🙂 He’s being linked to Champs league teams and we have 117 forwards Its dissapointing but unsurprising we havn’t got involved
Lee On Solent Saint Posted May 25 Posted May 25 37 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: He’s being linked to Champs league teams and we have 117 forwards Its dissapointing but unsurprising we havn’t got involved 117 forwards who can't score a goal between them 1
coalman Posted May 25 Posted May 25 11 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Why haven't we signed anyone yet FFS. I'm more interested in who we're shipping out. So many players who apparently "train well" and don't show up at the weekend that keep getting picked week by week.
Saint_clark Posted May 25 Posted May 25 8 minutes ago, coalman said: I'm more interested in who we're shipping out. So many players who apparently "train well" and don't show up at the weekend that keep getting picked week by week. Why haven't we sold anyone yet FFS. 1
coalman Posted May 25 Posted May 25 Just now, Saint_clark said: Why haven't we sold anyone yet FFS. Touche
St. Ciervo Posted May 25 Posted May 25 I'm sorry. We are signing players and beefing up Goztepe... What is the point if we don't get to sign their best? Seems a lopsided relationship. 1
Matthew Le God Posted May 25 Posted May 25 (edited) 15 minutes ago, St. Ciervo said: I'm sorry. We are signing players and beefing up Goztepe... What is the point if we don't get to sign their best? Seems a lopsided relationship. Juan and Matsuki are still our players. Them gaining experience in European football helps them develop and that benefits Saints. Romulo is seemingly interesting Champions League clubs, it is a hard sell for the player to prefer Saints in the Championship over that. Had we still been in the Premier League it may have been possible as we could compete on wages. Edited May 25 by Matthew Le God 1
Doctoroncall Posted May 25 Posted May 25 51 minutes ago, coalman said: I'm more interested in who we're shipping out. So many players who apparently "train well" and don't show up at the weekend that keep getting picked week by week. Yes, It will be interesting to see what happens now. I cannot help think not much will be spent, relying on WS nous as manager to get the best out of a collection of u21 graduates (like Robinson), those that remain from the large squad and a few unknowns and PL loans.
Göztepe Posted May 25 Posted May 25 2 hours ago, St. Ciervo said: Üzgünüm. Oyuncular transfer ediyoruz ve Göztepe'yi güçlendiriyoruz... En iyilerini transfer edemezsek bunun ne anlamı var? Tek taraflı bir ilişki gibi görünüyor. Your players have gained experience, if you were to sell Juan today, you would have transferred him for at least 3.5 million euros, 800 thousand euros, not a bad profit at all. He is an extremely hard-working striker. 1
CSA96 Posted May 25 Posted May 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, St. Ciervo said: I'm sorry. We are signing players and beefing up Goztepe... What is the point if we don't get to sign their best? Seems a lopsided relationship. 'Congratulations on an amazing season Romulo' 'Thanks boss - will I get my big move now?' 'Yes, congratulations on a great campaign and your Champions League offers for next season... but have you ever heard of Southampton? They're known as the second-worst Premier League team ever and they'll be playing in the second division in England. That's your prize' I think not. The player does have to actually want the move for the multi-club model to work - and why on earth would he want to come here ahead of his other options? Edited May 25 by CSA96
Gloucester Saint Posted May 25 Posted May 25 3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Anyone in here that we think would drop down and do a job? Keane, Coufal or Davies. Definitely not Holgate or Ings. 1
Give it to Ron Posted May 25 Posted May 25 2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Anyone in here that we think would drop down and do a job? Ben Mee, Fabianski, Tom Cairney, Wayne Hennessy, Tom Heaton. I would love Doucore but think he wouldn’t come here nor would Gueye. Not Mason Holgate😀 2
Harry_SFC Posted May 25 Posted May 25 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Ben Mee, Fabianski, Tom Cairney, Wayne Hennessy, Tom Heaton. I would love Doucore but think he wouldn’t come here nor would Gueye. Not Mason Holgate😀 Id deffo take Tom Cairney and Ben Mee on short term deals. Two leaders in the spine of the team that we desperately need. Edited May 25 by Harry_SFC
Disco Stu Posted May 25 Posted May 25 (edited) Heaton, Fabianski or Begovic could make for decent back up goalkeepers with useful experience but I think I'd prefer a goalkeeper that's closer to 30 than 40 as the first choice. Edited May 26 by Disco Stu
Gloucester Saint Posted May 25 Posted May 25 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Heaton, Fakianski or Begovic could make for decent back up goalkeepers with useful experience but I think I'd prefer a goalkeeper that's closer to 30 than 40 as the first choice. We need first choice. McCarthy is fine for Champ 2nd choice. Bazanu out on loan for the next 2 seasons to whoever will take him with us paying most of the wages. Edited May 25 by Gloucester Saint
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