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1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm still holding out hope for Richard kone from Wycombe. Can score goals in English football, big strong and pacy and won't cost much at all. To my mind that's a much safer bet than some others mentioned. 

Didn't he stop scoring the last few months?

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Tadic is not coming back to England, he could not wait to leave. He was sick and tired of the physical side of English football. Does anyone seriously think he would fair any better in the Championship. I've posted before about someone i know who knew Tadic very well during his stint at Saints and who Tadic personally told his reason for leaving Saints and the UK was the physicality of the league. That person on the day Tadic left the UK drove him to the airport in Tadics car and was given the keys and the car to keep!

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5 hours ago, revolution saint said:

Cool, the opening salvos of the annual summer, experience vs potential debate.

Personally think both sides have some merit but there’s some well shit experienced players out there as well as players with potential that will become, well, shit. Ultimately I think it comes down to the scouting and getting in the best affordable players regardless of age.

There doesn’t appear to be much of a window of opportunity for young players with potential; if Downes has a breakout season next time round then he’s out of our price range in the same way we missed the boat on players like Gakpo, Hojlund and Ramos. Risk is he’s not the next in that line but the next Mara.

Whenever I read posts saying we should sign "some seasoned pros who we know will add value at this level" or along those lines, I wonder who they are referring to? Who is this seasoned striker we are sure will be good at this level?  Piroe or Sargent I presume? 

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18 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

Tadic is not coming back to England, he could not wait to leave. He was sick and tired of the physical side of English football. Does anyone seriously think he would fair any better in the Championship. I've posted before about someone i know who knew Tadic very well during his stint at Saints and who Tadic personally told his reason for leaving Saints and the UK was the physicality of the league. That person on the day Tadic left the UK drove him to the airport in Tadics car and was given the keys and the car to keep!

Where can I find this sort of work?

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Posted
51 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Didn't he stop scoring the last few months?

Form is temporary and all that. Has all the attributes to make the step up. He's one I'd like to see given a go. 

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By all accounts Tadic was on something like €135k per week at Fenerbache. I appreciate he's a free agent now, but I would be surprised if he wanted or needed to accept a fraction of that sort of wage to get the shit kicked out of him in the Championship. I would have thought a final decent pay day in Saudi or somewhere would be more appealing at this point in his career. 

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58 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

That person on the day Tadic left the UK drove him to the airport in Tadics car and was given the keys and the car to keep!

Anyone know if Smallbone is recruiting?

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33 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

By all accounts Tadic was on something like €135k per week at Fenerbache. I appreciate he's a free agent now, but I would be surprised if he wanted or needed to accept a fraction of that sort of wage to get the shit kicked out of him in the Championship. I would have thought a final decent pay day in Saudi or somewhere would be more appealing at this point in his career. 

Tadic will be 37 in November (older than Lallana when he rejoined), he wouldn't last the season in the Champ, probably wouldn't even make it to his 37th birthday. I like Tadic, and clearly he made a hellofa impact for Ajax, but there are definitely some rose tinted specs being used when remembering his time at Saints. Along with Gaston was notorious for giving the ball away while we were attacking, leading to goals conceded.

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50 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

Tadic will be 37 in November (older than Lallana when he rejoined), he wouldn't last the season in the Champ, probably wouldn't even make it to his 37th birthday. I like Tadic, and clearly he made a hellofa impact for Ajax, but there are definitely some rose tinted specs being used when remembering his time at Saints. Along with Gaston was notorious for giving the ball away while we were attacking, leading to goals conceded.

Nostalgia may play a part but I don’t think it’s revisionist to say that he was technically one of the best players we have had in the past decade. He gave the ball away but also tried to, often successfully, make things happen that others couldn’t. 
 

I don’t necessarily think he’s the answer in the championship at his current age but it doesn’t diminish his ability.

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4 minutes ago, UpweySaint said:

Nostalgia may play a part but I don’t think it’s revisionist to say that he was technically one of the best players we have had in the past decade. He gave the ball away but also tried to, often successfully, make things happen that others couldn’t. 
 

I don’t necessarily think he’s the answer in the championship at his current age but it doesn’t diminish his ability.

Remember a game against Bournemouth under Hughes. Scored two goals to drag us to a huge win. Yes he could be infuriating but one of those players who could have you on the edge of your seat. As you say not the answer now, but a cut above anything we have had in recent years

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2 hours ago, Chez said:

Whenever I read posts saying we should sign "some seasoned pros who we know will add value at this level" or along those lines, I wonder who they are referring to? Who is this seasoned striker we are sure will be good at this level?  Piroe or Sargent I presume? 

Yeah, I guess Sargent although Norwich are looking for 15-20M for him and, even if that could be haggled down a bit, it's still a hefty wedge for a player who didn't do so well in the premier league and probably wouldn't again.  

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4 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Who knows. Maybe it's wrong 

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Tall player. Long stride. Slower first few metres, but I'm pretty sure the Bundesliga official site will be diligent with their figures.

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1 hour ago, UpweySaint said:

Nostalgia may play a part but I don’t think it’s revisionist to say that he was technically one of the best players we have had in the past decade. He gave the ball away but also tried to, often successfully, make things happen that others couldn’t. 
 

I don’t necessarily think he’s the answer in the championship at his current age but it doesn’t diminish his ability.

Really don't think he did it often enough to be thought of in the way some do. As I said I liked him but he was frustrating when he was with us, especially when you see what he did when he left. But that wasn't really the point of my post, he is 37, and would not suit in the Championship now.

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8 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

Really don't think he did it often enough to be thought of in the way some do. As I said I liked him but he was frustrating when he was with us, especially when you see what he did when he left. But that wasn't really the point of my post, he is 37, and would not suit in the Championship now.

Fair enough, game of opinions! There aren’t many players I’ve preferred watching for saints in the last decade or so but I get that he could infuriate. 
 

Your main point - Dusan at 37 isn’t right for the championship - yeah no arguments. I don’t think he would fancy it and I couldn’t see him being up for a 46 game slog. It would be fun to see him doing his thing back in a saints shirt against lower quality opposition but it doesn’t feel like a se sensible or realistic bit of squad building.

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In terms of Dusan, there's a lot of romance in wanting that to happen - but I don't think it's worth exploring from a pure footballing point of view.

We need to move on from looking to the past, and start building a new squad full of players for the future.

We went all romantic by re-signing Theo and Lallana and they were just pointless wage hoggers. I'm glad we dodged the AOC move as well, another one who should be left in the past.

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26 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

In terms of Dusan, there's a lot of romance in wanting that to happen - but I don't think it's worth exploring from a pure footballing point of view.

We need to move on from looking to the past, and start building a new squad full of players for the future.

We went all romantic by re-signing Theo and Lallana and they were just pointless wage hoggers. I'm glad we dodged the AOC move as well, another one who should be left in the past.

He scored 11 goals and got 13 assists in the league last year and was pretty much always available so different from Walcott or Lallana. From a footballing point of view he would be a class apart in the Championship.

The issue as others mentioned is that he will have absolutely no interest in it. Not sure why I have even wasted a post writing about it to be honest.

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2 hours ago, revolution saint said:

Yeah, I guess Sargent although Norwich are looking for 15-20M for him and, even if that could be haggled down a bit, it's still a hefty wedge for a player who didn't do so well in the premier league and probably wouldn't again.  

I don't know Sargent's game, so no idea if he might do ok at that level second time around, but if there are serious doubts,  let's take a punt on someone else that hasn't come up short. 

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It's nice to remember Tadic and his football but I think most would agree that even if he wanted to come we probably wouldn't  get our money's worth, which is something we've had to endure far too much recently.

Russell Martin is reportedly said to have been surprised by the pace and physicality of the Premier League, which suggests that the collective years experience of this board would have been worth consulting.. My hope is that the new recruit we have, and the prospective recruits, have the pace and a level of physicality that will bear them in good stead if we get promoted, with another year's experience under their belts.

Some of us remember VVD and the pace of his recovery runs in covering back, and we can only hope that Quarshie develops in the same way and that we actually pressure the opposition enough thatthe need to demonstre his abilities comes from a good place.

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Was this the guy that quite a few on here were demanding we sign a couple of seasons ago because something something Rickie Lambert?

Funny that even Wrexham don't want him in the Championship.

 

 

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On 21/06/2025 at 22:33, Badger said:

Certainly ranks highly on the De Ridder scale. 
 

And don’t see him coming to us. 

Sainz is a fantastic player, and no chance he would sign for us given Premier League clubs will be after him!

I live in Norwich, have seen him play a lot, he had a wonderful season (apart from getting banned for 6 weeks for gobbing at an opponent!) 

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3 minutes ago, Wilf said:

Sainz is a fantastic player, and no chance he would sign for us given Premier League clubs will be after him!

I live in Norwich, have seen him play a lot, he had a wonderful season (apart from getting banned for 6 weeks for gobbing at an opponent!) 

Tremendous first half the season. Loads of goals. Did he struggle a little for form in the second half? Are the Forrest links real? I agree, he isn't making a sideways move to us. 

 

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6 hours ago, Chez said:

I agree, he isn't making a sideways move to us. 

Moving to a club in the same division doesn't automatically mean a "sideways move". Was van Dijk moving from Saints to Liverpool a "sideways move"?

Saints should have a much better chance of being towards the top of the league and chance if promotion than Norwich. Much bigger income and a better squad, like Liverpool had over Saints for van Dijk. 

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10 hours ago, CB Fry said:

 

Was this the guy that quite a few on here were demanding we sign a couple of seasons ago because something something Rickie Lambert?

Funny that even Wrexham don't want him in the Championship.

 

 

2 seasons ago we were about to start our championship season and Wrexham were about to start their League 2 campaign.

Am gonna need to see some receipts about this claim.

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Reading Brentford's forum it is funny how completely opposite Ankersen is perceived compared to here. They affectionately refer to him as 'Ras', for us his name is more akin to some kind of slur.

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2 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

2 seasons ago we were about to start our championship season and Wrexham were about to start their League 2 campaign.

Am gonna need to see some receipts about this claim.

Looks like a standard CB Fry straw man argument, but I certainly can't be a**** to check..

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34 minutes ago, sockeye said:

Reading Brentford's forum it is funny how completely opposite Ankersen is perceived compared to here. They affectionately refer to him as 'Ras', for us his name is more akin to some kind of slur.

Probably because he didn't ruin Brentford but got lucky with his recruitment of Thomas Frank and then lived off that with us across a series of 'clever-clever 'I'm so ace I am rewiring football' appointments that made us a complete laughing stock and which will take years to unravel. Can't quite believe he's still with us.

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1 hour ago, sockeye said:

Reading Brentford's forum it is funny how completely opposite Ankersen is perceived compared to here. They affectionately refer to him as 'Ras', for us his name is more akin to some kind of slur.

I thought people used to cite his co-director Phil Giles as the primary brains behind the football operations at Brentford, with Ankersen riding on his coat tails? Or maybe that's some kind of urban myth that's arisen over the subsequent years?

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Just discovered that Rudi Skacel’s full first name is actually Rudolf. 

Which seems appropriate as he did go down in his-tor-y, and is only ever talked about for 3 weeks of the year. 

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Posted
18 hours ago, revolution saint said:

Yeah, I guess Sargent although Norwich are looking for 15-20M for him and, even if that could be haggled down a bit, it's still a hefty wedge for a player who didn't do so well in the premier league and probably wouldn't again.  

I've seen him a fair bit, Nd his game has improved season on season. Obviously, he does even better when he's got creativity of a Sainz or a Buendia around..

But he does well when given the chances.

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29 minutes ago, trousers said:

I thought people used to cite his co-director Phil Giles as the primary brains behind the football operations at Brentford, with Ankersen riding on his coat tails? Or maybe that's some kind of urban myth that's arisen over the subsequent years?

Urban myth. When his involvement with Sport Republic and their takeover at Saints became public it was seen as a coup due to his positive influence at Brentford.

Also has to be said he has done well with Goztepe. Clearly made mistakes here but also quite difficult to know exactly who has been directly responsible for what. Now that we are in the Spors era that clarity "I am responsible for all football matters" is helpful.

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With Mbeumo seemingly valued at around £60/65 m, I wonder if transfer fees may be at a bit of a ( possibly temporary) plateau.

I would have thought that he might have been valued somewhat higher ?

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15 minutes ago, Teamsaint1 said:

With Mbeumo seemingly valued at around £60/65 m, I wonder if transfer fees may be at a bit of a ( possibly temporary) plateau.

I would have thought that he might have been valued somewhat higher ?

Seems good money for a striker who has hit double figures in the top flight only once in his career. Pretty much what Solanke went for the season before. 

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2 hours ago, Teamsaint1 said:

With Mbeumo seemingly valued at around £60/65 m, I wonder if transfer fees may be at a bit of a ( possibly temporary) plateau.

I would have thought that he might have been valued somewhat higher ?

In his final year of contract (thought Brentfors could add a year), I think

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5 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I've seen him a fair bit, Nd his game has improved season on season. Obviously, he does even better when he's got creativity of a Sainz or a Buendia around..

But he does well when given the chances.

I agree, I think he's improved a lot since his last time in the PL. 

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7 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Lyon have just been relegated to Ligue 2 for financial reasons. 

Go and get Ale Rodriguez back?

Why would he rejoin? We are in a worse situation now than when he left.

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1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

Why would he rejoin?

One instance is that maybe there could be a Dibling type situation if he couldn't settle/gets homesick?

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3 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

One instance is that maybe there could be a Dibling type situation if he couldn't settle/gets homesick?

I think a lot of PL clubs would like him if he wanted a return to England. He'd also be quite expensive. He is on the fringes of their first team.

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13 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Why would he rejoin? We are in a worse situation now than when he left.

Because we have hundreds of millions to spend on a hotel?

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

I think a lot of PL clubs would like him if he wanted a return to England. He'd also be quite expensive. He is on the fringes of their first team.

There is no link at all with him so all a moot point, but a team in financial crisis enough to be relegated might have a fire sale so not as expensive as you might feel.

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44 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Lyon have just been relegated to Ligue 2 for financial reasons. 

Go and get Ale Rodriguez back?

This is Saints. We’ll probably end up with AMN back instead 

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Posted
6 hours ago, Teamsaint1 said:

With Mbeumo seemingly valued at around £60/65 m, I wonder if transfer fees may be at a bit of a ( possibly temporary) plateau.

I would have thought that he might have been valued somewhat higher ?

That would be a no......

Liverpool are celebrating a British-record transfer for Florian Wirtz, who arrives from Bayer Leverkusen on a fee that could reach £116m overall.

The British record signing of 22-year-old German ace Florian Wirtz from Bayer Leverkusen for a £116m sum, the signing of another Leverkusen player in right back Jeremie Frimpong for £29.6m, and the soon-to-be new left back of Milos Kerkez from Bournemouth for £40m means the club’s outlay so far this summer stands at £185.6m.

Liverpool could spend another £200m in the market this summer and still be PSR compliant

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Wonder how our striker negotiation is going, it is seemingly taking a while.

From the snippets I read we were close to a deal with the player and the club didn't think a transfer fee would be a problem.

All I can say is if they havent signed them by day 1 of preason then they better give us a video of smallbone v Quarshie 50m sprint.

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5 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Wonder how our striker negotiation is going, it is seemingly taking a while.

From the snippets I read we were close to a deal with the player and the club didn't think a transfer fee would be a problem.

All I can say is if they havent signed them by day 1 of preason then they better give us a video of smallbone v Quarshie 50m sprint.

Is this our main striker target?

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