25/26 - Non Saints Games

[StrangelyBrown]

If that was the best that football can do I'll stick with the Championship. That was an utterly shite and boring game of football.

[Turkish]

Feel for Arsenal they battled hard.  Much as everyone doesn’t want to like PSG I enjoy watching them and I love Kvaratskhelia hes a wonderful footballer who doesn’t rely on speed and strength like so many do, used to see him At Napoli and think he was a rolls Royce destined for the very top. 
that said a club owned by an oil industry win again, decisions went their way, probably deserved it on the balance of the game 

[Willo of Whiteley]

What ever happened to a player sprinting up to the ball and leathering it?

Pathetic stuttering runs.

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Players that do those stupid stuttered run ups in penalty shootouts and miss deserve the pain of losing. Letting your fans down by being a complete bellend.

Rashford in the Euro final springs to mind.

I’d love to see a stat for them they seem to miss more than they score. Just pick your spot and hit it

[saintant]

What an abysmal final, poor from both sides. Arsenal bottled it and didn't give their stars like Saka the chance to shine - went all the way to the final then didn't turn up and were too afraid to go for it. They must be regretting now that they didn't have a real go.

[James]

Not sure the TNT Sport commentators watched the same game as I did. Full of praise for the Arsenal performance but they did nothing after they scored? 

[Saint_clark]

16 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

What ever happened to a player sprinting up to the ball and leathering it?

Pathetic stuttering runs.

I don't remember ever seeing a stuttering run up being scored. I remember plenty of them being missed though. I think I'd go to prison for beating a player to death if I ever managed a team who lost a penalty shootout because of a penalty like that. 

[Football Special]

18 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Feel for Arsenal they battled hard.  Much as everyone doesn’t want to like PSG I enjoy watching them and I love Kvaratskhelia hes a wonderful footballer who doesn’t rely on speed and strength like so many do, used to see him At Napoli and think he was a rolls Royce destined for the very top. 
that said a club owned by an oil industry win again, decisions went their way, probably deserved it on the balance of the game 

PSG are a young side without some of the big personalities,  I enjoy watching them more now than when they had Mbappe, Messi etc , impressive to win back to back 

[Football Special]

14 minutes ago, saintant said:

What an abysmal final, poor from both sides. Arsenal bottled it and didn't give their stars like Saka the chance to shine - went all the way to the final then didn't turn up and were too afraid to go for it. They must be regretting now that they didn't have a real go.

Going to be weird on their Premier league trophy parade tomorrow, already most of their 'loyal' fanbase will miss it as still travelling back from Budapest,  bound to put a downer on it losing today like that. 

Been a great season for them though, winning the league first time in a generation, came so close in Champions league, fell short in the final of the Carabao and just came up against a better side in the FA Cup 

[Convict Colony]

First time this season Ive had the misfortune to witness the arsenal play style I'd heard alot about and the favourable ref calls.

[ChristopheVAFC]

I’ve seen Arsenal lose twice this season – the first time at St Mary’s in the FA Cup and the second time tonight on TV. 😅😅

[James]

41 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

I don't remember ever seeing a stuttering run up being scored. I remember plenty of them being missed though. I think I'd go to prison for beating a player to death if I ever managed a team who lost a penalty shootout because of a penalty like that. 

Only one who does it well is Toney. If you’re going to send the keeper you’ve got to hit the target.

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

Arsenal sat back too much. I think they could have given PSG if they were a little more confident. 

The two penalty misses against an awful goalkeeper. That's just poor. Not sure why Eze did the stupid run up. As for getting a cb to take the 5th penalty...

[Lighthouse]

46 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

I don't remember ever seeing a stuttering run up being scored. I remember plenty of them being missed though. I think I'd go to prison for beating a player to death if I ever managed a team who lost a penalty shootout because of a penalty like that. 

Players wouldn't do it if there wasn’t a decent rate of success. They do it to get the keeper to move first, so that they can put it the other way. Missing from a stuttering run up is no worse than running up and wellying it into the car park.

[bpsaint]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

Players wouldn't do it if there wasn’t a decent rate of success. They do it to get the keeper to move first, so that they can put it the other way. Missing from a stuttering run up is no worse than running up and wellying it into the car park.

Agree to disagree on that one. If your plan in a penalty shootout is to try and out psych the keeper by making him move first then you’re asking for trouble.

Give me the Le Tissier and later Beattie method of pick a spot, don’t change your mind, and twat it.

Never saw Rickie Lambert fucking around with stuttered run ups like some kind of cunt.

Edited 19 hours ago by bpsaint

[Willo of Whiteley]

Some weird flex’s from other clubs on social media.

Chelsea showing off the trophy cabinet tour with the CL trophy being front and centre.

Djed Spence of Spurs seemingly reposting and cumming in his pants of the fact that he once successfully played ok against Arsenal. Weird flex from a not very good footballer against a team that won the league when you only just survived relegation.

[Teamsaint1]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

I’d love to see a stat for them they seem to miss more than they score. Just pick your spot and hit it

If a coach had told Eze to do what he did, Eze would probably have told him not to be so daft.

Rightly.

[Dark Munster]

Rule number with penalties: hit the bloody target. Even an embarrassing Panenka penalty which a goalkeeper gently catches is better than hitting row Z. If you miss the target you won't score against anyone, including my Gran who passed away decades ago.

[SNSUN]

2 hours ago, bpsaint said:

Players that do those stupid stuttered run ups in penalty shootouts and miss deserve the pain of losing. Letting your fans down by being a complete bellend.

Rashford in the Euro final springs to mind.

And a Panenka. Just pick a spot and thump it. If the keeper saves it then they save it. Rickie was my favourite penalty taker.

[SNSUN]

2 hours ago, StrangelyBrown said:

If that was the best that football can do I'll stick with the Championship. That was an utterly shite and boring game of football.

Arsenal played it exactly how people expected they'd play it, they just got lucky that they scored first. PSG have had better games though. Doesn't matter though, the trophy is all that matters whether you're Arsenal, Palace, Villa or, erm, Hull. 😝

[SNSUN]

45 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Some weird flex’s from other clubs on social media.

Chelsea showing off the trophy cabinet tour with the CL trophy being front and centre.

Djed Spence of Spurs seemingly reposting and cumming in his pants of the fact that he once successfully played ok against Arsenal. Weird flex from a not very good footballer against a team that won the league when you only just survived relegation.

You've done it now, Spence to score the winner in the World Cup final. 

[Toussaint]

49 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Some weird flex’s from other clubs on social media.

Chelsea showing off the trophy cabinet tour with the CL trophy being front and centre.

Djed Spence of Spurs seemingly reposting and cumming in his pants of the fact that he once successfully played ok against Arsenal. Weird flex from a not very good footballer against a team that won the league when you only just survived relegation.

Classless 

[Southner]

3 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

What ever happened to a player sprinting up to the ball and leathering it?

Pathetic stuttering runs.

Le Tiss, Lambert etc. They step up for a pen, you have complete confidence in it being converted. 

[Lighthouse]

8 hours ago, bpsaint said:

Agree to disagree on that one. If your plan in a penalty shootout is to try and out psych the keeper by making him move first then you’re asking for trouble.

Give me the Le Tissier and later Beattie method of pick a spot, don’t change your mind, and twat it.

Never saw Rickie Lambert fucking around with stuttered run ups like some kind of cunt.

The big clubs especially will have teams of analysts studying penalty data in enormous detail. Quite simply, players wouldn’t be doing it if it didn’t work.

[East Kent Saint]

I still feel a penalty shoot out is a poor way to decide a cup final , surely a replay is better ? Wasn't that the case with the FA Cup back in the day ?

[revolution saint]

I don’t really like panenkas or the stuttering run ups either and if you miss you look a right tit but statistically it does seem as if they are slightly more successful than conventional techniques. There’s loads of articles on the web about it but here’s https://totalfootballanalysis.com/set-piece-analysis/penalty-kick-set-piece-analysis-tactics

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

20 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said:

I still feel a penalty shoot out is a poor way to decide a cup final , surely a replay is better ? Wasn't that the case with the FA Cup back in the day ?

Logisitics - time, cost, travel, accommodation. Penalties is the only way.

[Window Cleaner]

11 hours ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Arsenal sat back too much. I think they could have given PSG if they were a little more confident. 

The two penalty misses against an awful goalkeeper. That's just poor. Not sure why Eze did the stupid run up. As for getting a cb to take the 5th penalty...

Arsenal's team sélection was already bizarre and then Odeberg did nothing whatsoever. Arteta tried to be too clever. 

[saintant]

2 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

The big clubs especially will have teams of analysts studying penalty data in enormous detail. Quite simply, players wouldn’t be doing it if it didn’t work.

Doubt we'll see Eze doing it again 🙂

[AlexLaw76]

10 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said:

Arsenal's team sélection was already bizarre and then Odeberg did nothing whatsoever. Arteta tried to be too clever. 

I thought Havertz, although scored early, was pretty ineffective (as usual)

Arsenal just seemed to defend far too deep, well, until PSG scored. Saka had about 4 completed passes in 85 minutes. Essentially, Arsenal tried to shit-house their way to the win, but came just short.

[Window Cleaner]

12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I thought Havertz, although scored early, was pretty ineffective (as usual)

Arsenal just seemed to defend far too deep, well, until PSG scored. Saka had about 4 completed passes in 85 minutes. Essentially, Arsenal tried to shit-house their way to the win, but came just short.

I thought they'd be a lot better than they were. Just seemed not to be interested in playing good football.

The bloke at left back wasn't anyway near good enough so they had to play Miles Skelly to help him with Kvara.

Season just too long for Arsenal perhaps, 63 games plus internationals for most of their players. PSG only 57 I think and some of their games are just kick abouts, Auxerre, Lorient, Metz etc wouldn't survive in the Championship.

[StrangelyBrown]

56 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said:

Arsenal's team sélection was already bizarre and then Odeberg did nothing whatsoever. Arteta tried to be too clever. 

To be fair the first half was a tactical masterclass in killing the game - dull as ditchwater to watch, but impressive all the same seeing the Arsenal team so effective as a unit stopping PSG from doing anything.

Second half was just poor from both teams - Arsenal didn't defend with the same quality and PSG had nothing in the final third.

Tuchel ought to be concerned - looks like he's made a mistake picking Eze and Madueke - neither of them had the balls to turn up in the big game and that pen from Eze was just embarrassing.

[BARCELONASAINT]

I was due to work a late shift yesterday but managed to change to do an early shift so i could watch the final....boy do i regret that decision now. What an awful final. I really wanted an English side to win the final as i can't stand PSG but Arsenal once they scored had no ambition and just tried to kill the game with defend defend defend and time wasting. They really can have no complaints this morning and Arteta is embarrassing claiming they should have had a penalty in extra time. They were lucky a penalty wasn't given against Saka in the first half for his double handball and lucky they were not down to 10 players when they conceded the penalty. Best team won on the night but no one will remember this final it was so poor!

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

Logisitics - time, cost, travel, accommodation. Penalties is the only way.

I still think it should be next goal wins like we used to play over the park as kids 

[Whitey Grandad]

24 minutes ago, Football Special said:

I still think it should be next goal wins like we used to play over the park as kids 

TV companies don't like that.

[S-Clarke]

I thought Arsenal were horrendously bad, would have been a travesty had they won. All they did was hoof it long, at least PSG tried to play.

I don't think PSG played particularly well either, as Arsenal pretty much closed them down all game, but you could tell that they had miles more quality.

Not a great final though, one of the worst ever from a pure spectacle point of view. 

[Saint86]

15 hours ago, James said:

Not sure the TNT Sport commentators watched the same game as I did. Full of praise for the Arsenal performance but they did nothing after they scored? 

Reminiscent of Southgate Vs Italy. Fully bottled it. Failed to step up second half when psg were tiring, yielded the entire pitch and possession to psg. If arsenal had won it would have been a travesty.

Edited 6 hours ago by Saint86

[Saint86]

13 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I thought Arsenal were horrendously bad, would have been a travesty had they won. All they did was hoof it long, at least PSG tried to play.

I don't think PSG played particularly well either, as Arsenal pretty much closed them down all game, but you could tell that they had miles more quality.

Not a great final though, one of the worst ever from a pure spectacle point of view. 

Great minds... 😆😅

[Window Cleaner]

1 hour ago, StrangelyBrown said:

To be fair the first half was a tactical masterclass in killing the game - dull as ditchwater to watch, but impressive all the same seeing the Arsenal team so effective as a unit stopping PSG from doing anything.

Second half was just poor from both teams - Arsenal didn't defend with the same quality and PSG had nothing in the final third.

Tuchel ought to be concerned - looks like he's made a mistake picking Eze and Madueke - neither of them had the balls to turn up in the big game and that pen from Eze was just embarrassing.

They were only subs though. Just can't see why he started Trossard instead of either of them. Perhaps just to piss off a PSG player enough for them to get sent off.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Football Special said:

I still think it should be next goal wins like we used to play over the park as kids 

What's the current UEFA ruling for when one set of mums calls their side in for tea. 🙂

[Saint NL]

33 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Reminiscent of Southgate Vs Italy. Fully bottled it. Fairs to step up second half when psg were tiring, yielded the entire pitch and possession to psg. If arsenal had won it would have been a travesty.

Yeah it was very similar.

Saka stunk up both games as well.

[Midfield_General]

1 hour ago, Football Special said:

I still think it should be next goal wins like we used to play over the park as kids 

They did actually try that if you remember - the Golden Goal in extra time. Trezeguet won Euro 2000 for France like that. 

[Football Special]

14 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

They did actually try that if you remember - the Golden Goal in extra time. Trezeguet won Euro 2000 for France like that. 

I do , was also at the Euro 96 final at Wembley when Germany won it with a Golden Goal,  just keep playing until someone scores in a final even if it takes four hours 

[EssEffCee]

31 minutes ago, Football Special said:

I do , was also at the Euro 96 final at Wembley when Germany won it with a Golden Goal,  just keep playing until someone scores in a final even if it takes four hours 

Could probably speed it up by removing two players from each team every 5-10 minutes until you end up with 5 a side. 

Not entirely serious but do think it'd become harder to not concede in that situation.

 

[EssEffCee]

Does anyone remember that 'silver goal' rubbish they tried out? If a team was winning at HT in ET then the game ended there.

[Football Special]

4 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

Does anyone remember that 'silver goal' rubbish they tried out? If a team was winning at HT in ET then the game ended there.

Yes I think they thought it would encourage teams to attack but had the opposite effect 

[Football Special]

7 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

Could probably speed it up by removing two players from each team every 5-10 minutes until you end up with 5 a side. 

Not entirely serious but do think it'd become harder to not concede in that situation.

 

I'd support that, or modern technology could allow us to make the goals increase in size every 5-10 mins 

[East Kent Saint]

Better to have a replay on Tuesday if Saturday has no result , a different game but I think PSG would have won a replay but who knows ?

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Another option I’d like to see is corners instead of penalties to decide the match.
 

5 each to begin with. It ends when a goal is scored or the ball goes out of play or past the halfway line. Then after 5, sudden death.
 

It means it’s still a team game, unlike penalties and is still more true to the game than deciding on penalties. If a foul does occur in the box against the attacking team, then people that like to see penalties will still get to see them often. 

[Window Cleaner]

1 hour ago, East Kent Saint said:

Better to have a replay on Tuesday if Saturday has no result , a different game but I think PSG would have won a replay but who knows ?

But as they all have to trot off on WC duty from this afternoon onwards that's not an option this year.

Perhaps the UEFA should think about bringing this final forward a couple of weeks.