Saints 2-1 Wrexham - Match Thread

[SaintBobby]

Well, that was boring.

[stknowle]

3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Will post match

• Could not have a better intro than that
• Deserved 3 points
• their goal was frustrating, we messed it up, poor throw
• It was a silly penalty. Took a while to find our bearings
• We created enough chances to get back in the game
• We showed a bit of grit/determination to come from behind
• Pitch seemed a bit sticky, it was early season syndrome
• It crossed my mind we may not score, but we have to find a way 
• we got there in the end
• We know Ryan has a great left foot. 
• We just got to have a go, and we did
• Whether we won or lost, it would not have set the season, but good to get more people onside
• We needed to show character, energy and desire..we did that
• It is a million dollar question if Matty stays, he is a good player. Matty was not quite ready to start
• Time will tell if he stays
• Tyler not able to play, it was better for the team, and we will see
• I hope not this Drama every week, but as they say, welcome to the championship

Do you still type these out yourself Alex or is AI your effort saving friend these days?

[Saint_clark]

2 minutes ago, Chez said:

 

A new right back would be nice, but unlikely.

I think we have other areas that need attention more to be honest.

[aintforever]

The performance was poor but what a great ending, makes a nice change.

We need to ditch the 5 at the back, just leaves us a man light in midfield when we are chasing the game. With Armo/Archer alongside Stewart/Downs surely we are set up better squad wise for a 4-4-2. 

[Chez]

43 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I don't think we were anywhere as near as bad as a lot of people are making us out to be. After about half an hour we absolutely dominated. Yes, we were poor defensively, but we have been poor defensively since Puel left.

I've been watching Soccer Saturday and flicking between the Championship games on Sky, and fuck me this league is utter horseshit. Wrexham will be a top 8 team this year, and we had nearly 30 shots on goal.

We need to sort the defence (although that will come with time and coaching) and we need some more creativity. But apart from that, I think we've got more than enough, and I think it'll be good when we're a bit more settled with the squad come September - uncertainty is good for no-one.

I was watching with a Villa supporting mate, and he thought apart from Armstrong we were strong in general.

I also thought we weren't too bad. I didn't see a title winning side, but we did at least move the ball quite well in periods.  Defensively, we have some serious deficiencies that have to be resolved quickly. 

Ipswich got promoted looking much worse, but having a never say die spirit. Maybe we can have that.

[Chez]

3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

I think we have other areas that need attention more to be honest.

Do we? It's such a crucial position in modern football. Settling for Bree can totally undermine the positives of a 532. 

[Sir Ralph]

Will still has installed character- when was the last time we did that. Chap has guts and determination looking forward to this season 

[Andrew Watson]

A come back win with 2 late goals,well done for that Saints,probably just about deserved but we should have been 3 down before we woke up.  [ Cody missed a sitter and a couple of inches lower and Windass scores ].

[Lighthouse]

12 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

I think we have other areas that need attention more to be honest.

It’s second only to AM if you ask me, I don’t rate either of our current options, especially in a four.

[S-Clarke]

As soon as I saw that line-up I had a bit of a sinking feeling. I never enjoy us with 3 at the back as I feel it confuses us, and the lack of presence up top (Armstrong through the middle) was a worry. I doubt we'll ever see Armstrong through the middle again t hough.

The first half played out as many of us expected. No presence up top, ball not sticking, no real efforts, and a very confused and disjointed back 3. I thought Edwards was awful, he didn't seem to know his position too well and he was somewhat uncomfortable I felt. The two full backs were 'OK', but not as expressive as I felt they'd be - certainly not on the Suguwara side.

Midfield struggled. Charles individually was good, but I'm not sure if it's just me but it doesn't feel like this proactive/high press style really suits Downes. I don't think he has the mobility for it, it'll be interesting to see how he adapts as the season goes on - but I wouldn't say no if Ipswich came knocking with a £15m bid tomorrow if I'm honest.

The penalty was the result of a break and a very confused backline pressing up too high. Edwards was clumsy as I think Stephens would have got there - maybe there was a lack of communication in that moment. Pen was a pen and that was that. The rest of the half followed the same theme with us really lacking any threat or quality in the final third.

The second half started much the same way, as expected without any subs. But once we switched to 4, removing Armstrong and Suguwara we looked much better. We had more of a presence (although Downs didn't do much), but it felt like we had some mobility in that attacking third with Fernandes - but he can be much better than that.

We pretty much penned them in after that point, and we really should have scored before we did, but we still gave up so much space on the break - only thanks to a last ditch from Stephens and a great save from Bazunu did we get anything from that.

When we signed Manning I read that he was good at Free Kicks, but I didn't realise he was JWP levels good - that was on par with anything JWP stuck in for us, totally out of the blue! It felt like it was going to be something like that which would get our goal though! 

The winner was unexpected, we did pen them in and we really did wear them down, but I didn't expect us to win it. Great ball by Charles and then Manning does well to control and play the ball across, that wasn't an easy finish for Stephens by the way - he could have shanked that!

Overall, I thought it showed some positives in terms of mentality, desire and fitness in the closing stages - those are big positives for me. But negatively, the quality needs lifting in the attack - you can't deny that, especially not after the first half. We need 2 or 3 additions in that final 3. We can't rely on Archer in a wide position or Armstrong through the middle and expect to compete.

MOTM is a tough one as I felt it was all a bit sluggish, but I'd give it to Charles. I thought he was good on the ball and progressive with his passing through the line (forward passing I'd add). 

Good to start with a win, but not getting too excited just yet - there's a lot of work to do if we are to be competitive in the top end this year.

[BranfootsLoveChild]

Just heard Parkinson on Talkshite. He reckons the ref got a few decisions wrong for them. Fuck off, he was against us all game. Jason Cundy has just said Edwards should have been sent off for a foul on K Moore. The Wrexham love in is in full effect now.

[Sir Ralph]

3 minutes ago, BranfootsLoveChild said:

Just heard Parkinson on Talkshite. He reckons the ref got a few decisions wrong for them. Fuck off, he was against us all game. Jason Cundy has just said Edwards should have been sent off for a foul on K Moore. The Wrexham love in is in full effect now.

But we won who cares

[Wsaint]

Just now, Sir Ralph said:

But we won who cares

Exactly, let them cry about it until the return fixture and we'll beat them "properly".

[S-Clarke]

5 minutes ago, BranfootsLoveChild said:

Just heard Parkinson on Talkshite. He reckons the ref got a few decisions wrong for them. Fuck off, he was against us all game. Jason Cundy has just said Edwards should have been sent off for a foul on K Moore. The Wrexham love in is in full effect now.

How the fuck can he say that? The ref was all for them. I didn't mention the ref above as it would have been too much of a rant, but it was like he'd been promised a role in a Hollywood film if he'd favoured them. I've not seen such a one-sided ref performance in such a long time, it felt blatant.

[BarberSaint]

Back from the game.

First half we were nothing.  A better team but no desire, invention, anything.

Second half better and glad we got the win. Deserved overall. They were nothing with Moore on and less with him off.  He is quite canny and very dirty. We were a poor side until MF came on though.

Baz. Still doesn't hold himself like a goalie but the fingertip save was excellent. 5

Suga   - oh well. A generous 4.

Edwards.  In some ways good, did cope with KM quite well apart from being about 18 inches shorter than him and very slow - why didn't Quarshie take him? 5 (just)

JS - couple of moments where you could see the farts forming. Same old. Good for the goal. 5

Quarshie. Ok at this level. Didn't see the electric pace. Thought nothing of the long throws. Can't see him stepping up. Falls asleep a bit too. Not especially convincing defensively. 5

Welington - looked alright. Continuously ignored when he went on the overlap. 5

Downes. Ok. Not much of anything. Did nobble one of their players which was nice. 5

Charles. Ok. Very right footed, doesn't look like he'll score many in his career. 5 - maybe  5.5.

Fraser. Busy. Not much use really, even at the end when he did get crosses in. I'd use him as a sub. 4.

Robinson. His first touch is a second touch, no power, head down.  Quite unimpressive despite what people here are saying. Did try to and occasionally did make things happen though so he was effective. Don't see him as a PL player ever though. 5

AA - same as, but less busy.

Subs:

MF - lifted everyone and the team played better. 

Manning. Did well. Is quite slow at getting his head up; most of us are.

RS - looks very frail and fragile. Might develop into a footballer, but based on that he was poor.

DD - looked quite good and made a couple of good, clever runs that were missed.

CA - didn't do much. 

Can't see Wrexham doing anything other than struggling based on that.

[Andrew Watson]

Having watched the brief highlights on  online Sky [ Plus watched whole game on tv ] ,Downs was nudged in the back by Cody and I reckon thats why he did not score before Stephens put it in.

[OttawaSaint]

I'll take the credit for this one. Had to go out at the 80 minute mark. Got to my destination and discovered we'd won it.

I am really pleased we got 3 points, just watched the goals and Manning's was a beauty.

Our fitness seems to be better. 

But hopefully, Will and the boys will have learned what worked well and ay needs changing/worked on.

In the past we've had days like this but then dined out on it and learned nothing.

[stknowle]

2 hours ago, beatlesaint said:

The only thing I couldn’t understand was why, given Still likes crosses into the box as much as possible we had two of Snow White’s seven dwarfs in Fraser and Armstrong through the middle. No height whatsoever.

I did think in fairness to Fraser he had a good game

Indeed. Stewart in his limited minutes looked far more suited to the role. Mildly worrying that is not obvious in the first place to the dude picking the team but we’ll see going forward I guess.

[saintant]

47 minutes ago, Chez said:

Three shit throws in a row at neck height. How Downes is meant to control them I don't know.

Yeah, that was crazy. Will Still mentioned the one that led to the penalty so hopefully he will address that in no uncertain terms because it was just bonkers.

[VectisSaint]

32 minutes ago, Chez said:

Do we? It's such a crucial position in modern football. Settling for Bree can totally undermine the positives of a 532. 

The #2 is vacant in the squad list. 

[Fabrice29]

 

Some very odd takes on here. We were dominant throughout and add some creativity and crisp passes/quality/shots in the final third and it would have been a lot easier.

[macca155]

We deserved that win after last year. Good to see a fit team for once.

Quarshie was really nervous and unsure at the start, but he grew into the game, and looked more confident by the end.

I thought Charles was very good, which is great to see, but he was really blowing before Downes went off. Looked a bit dejected tbh. He slotted in a bit deeper and seemed to perk up. A few others on here have observed that he wasn't comfortable playing the initial system, which is probably right.

I wouldn't underestimate how cathartic that win will be for the players. They'll have tougher tests but the monkey has been lifted a little.

[spyinthesky]

My random view of the 'experience'.
* Our sponsors P&O were offering up free ice cream before the game. Well done.
* The pre match fireworks were a waste of time in the sunny Southampton weather.
* The Referee was poor. Why disnt he send Maclean off for the brutal foul on the wee man and then shoving
    Fernandes?
* Give Wrexham fans their due, they keep up their support throughout the game.
* Our fitness levels have improved significantly under Will Still.

* Bazunu     8/10......could not be faulted and deserved credit for the crucial save near the end.
* Sugawara 6/10...a middling performance.
* Welington 6/10...got forward a bit more than Sugawara.
* Edwards    5/10... I think we have the making of a decent there but struggled against the robustness of
                                 Keiffer Moore and gave away a silly pen.
 * Capt Jack 8/10....One of his best games for us. A couple of important clearances and the winning goal. A
                                 proper Captains performance.
* Quarsie  7/10........Still a bit raw but a committed performance and his pace and long throws could be
                                 beneficial.  
* Robinson 7/10.....Did well after his move up from the U21's. If we had bought him in for a couple of million
                               I would have thought this represented good value. He will have dips in form but a star in
                                the making (hopefully)
* Charles 7/10.......A steady performance with more to come (hopefully)
* Downes 6/10......Didnt reach the high standard as previously in the Championship. Lucky not to get a
                               booking for a number of fouls early on. More to come (hopefully)
* Armstrong 5/10.. Plenty of effort but a bit unfortunate with a couple of chances. Not a central striker
                                unfortunately.
* Wee Man 7/10......I was concerned about his selection in the middle of the park. He did OK when moved to
                                the flanks and put in a decent shift.
Subs
* Manning 8/10.....Fantastic free kick and cross for the second goal deserves a top mark.
* Downs    5/10....Yet to see anything of note from him from the Brighton game or his cameo today. Hope for
                              better.
* Stewart   5/10....Too little time to make an impression. Like to see him lead the line and provide more aerial
                             presence.
* Fernandes 5/10. Similar remark. But we all know what a good player he is and hope he stays.
* Archer       5/10.. Yet to impress me. Hope I'm wrong.

Just so nice to win a home game but the trip to Portman Road will be a decent test.

[LoyalSaintSO50]

Get in there!! On hols for this one but colours out and on the fkin tables for the winner 👌

Plenty of positives… particularly delighted for the likes of Jack and Baz who answered a few critics and just generally for all Saints fans who needed a bit of that let’s be honest. 

Negatives.. Didn’t get Armstrong starting centrally. Still bemused by the starting lineup forward wise.

Knew O’Brien would have been a quality signing for us. 

Sugawara lobbing it at Downes throat from another under 10 throw in from him, in lead up to their penalty 

 

Enjoy 😇

 

[BarberSaint]

2 hours ago, Nolan said:

Yep, we did.

Nope. We most certainly did not.

[macca155]

3 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

Charles was our best player, lose the lecturing 

Stephens did very little first half but was far better 2nd

It's all about opinions isn't it, be boring otherwise. However I do concur Charles had a cracking game. Clearly I saw more in Stephens but not much between them.

[saintant]

19 minutes ago, BarberSaint said:

Back from the game.

First half we were nothing.  A better team but no desire, invention, anything.

Second half better and glad we got the win. Deserved overall. They were nothing with Moore on and less with him off.  He is quite canny and very dirty. We were a poor side until MF came on though.

Baz. Still doesn't hold himself like a goalie but the fingertip save was excellent. 5

Suga   - oh well. A generous 4.

Edwards.  In some ways good, did cope with KM quite well apart from being about 18 inches shorter than him and very slow - why didn't Quarshie take him? 5 (just)

JS - couple of moments where you could see the farts forming. Same old. Good for the goal. 5

Quarshie. Ok at this level. Didn't see the electric pace. Thought nothing of the long throws. Can't see him stepping up. Falls asleep a bit too. Not especially convincing defensively. 5

Welington - looked alright. Continuously ignored when he went on the overlap. 5

Downes. Ok. Not much of anything. Did nobble one of their players which was nice. 5

Charles. Ok. Very right footed, doesn't look like he'll score many in his career. 5 - maybe  5.5.

Fraser. Busy. Not much use really, even at the end when he did get crosses in. I'd use him as a sub. 4.

Robinson. His first touch is a second touch, no power, head down.  Quite unimpressive despite what people here are saying. Did try to and occasionally did make things happen though so he was effective. Don't see him as a PL player ever though. 5

AA - same as, but less busy.

Subs:

MF - lifted everyone and the team played better. 

Manning. Did well. Is quite slow at getting his head up; most of us are.

RS - looks very frail and fragile. Might develop into a footballer, but based on that he was poor.

DD - looked quite good and made a couple of good, clever runs that were missed.

CA - didn't do much. 

Can't see Wrexham doing anything other than struggling based on that.

Blimey, looks like we're certs for relegation judging by these marks and comments.

[LuckyNumber7]

Didn't think we played well over all, but we did create a lot of chances. Probably deserved the win in the end but plenty to work on.

Wrexham won't pull up any trees this season but they should comfortably have enough to survive.

[Nolan]

5 minutes ago, BarberSaint said:

Nope. We most certainly did not.

 

🤔

[saintant]

1 minute ago, Nolan said:

 

🤔

Stats say it all and that's what I saw.

[Football Special]

38 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

As soon as I saw that line-up I had a bit of a sinking feeling. I never enjoy us with 3 at the back as I feel it confuses us, and the lack of presence up top (Armstrong through the middle) was a worry. I doubt we'll ever see Armstrong through the middle again t hough.

The first half played out as many of us expected. No presence up top, ball not sticking, no real efforts, and a very confused and disjointed back 3. I thought Edwards was awful, he didn't seem to know his position too well and he was somewhat uncomfortable I felt. The two full backs were 'OK', but not as expressive as I felt they'd be - certainly not on the Suguwara side.

Midfield struggled. Charles individually was good, but I'm not sure if it's just me but it doesn't feel like this proactive/high press style really suits Downes. I don't think he has the mobility for it, it'll be interesting to see how he adapts as the season goes on - but I wouldn't say no if Ipswich came knocking with a £15m bid tomorrow if I'm honest.

The penalty was the result of a break and a very confused backline pressing up too high. Edwards was clumsy as I think Stephens would have got there - maybe there was a lack of communication in that moment. Pen was a pen and that was that. The rest of the half followed the same theme with us really lacking any threat or quality in the final third.

The second half started much the same way, as expected without any subs. But once we switched to 4, removing Armstrong and Suguwara we looked much better. We had more of a presence (although Downs didn't do much), but it felt like we had some mobility in that attacking third with Fernandes - but he can be much better than that.

We pretty much penned them in after that point, and we really should have scored before we did, but we still gave up so much space on the break - only thanks to a last ditch from Stephens and a great save from Bazunu did we get anything from that.

When we signed Manning I read that he was good at Free Kicks, but I didn't realise he was JWP levels good - that was on par with anything JWP stuck in for us, totally out of the blue! It felt like it was going to be something like that which would get our goal though! 

The winner was unexpected, we did pen them in and we really did wear them down, but I didn't expect us to win it. Great ball by Charles and then Manning does well to control and play the ball across, that wasn't an easy finish for Stephens by the way - he could have shanked that!

Overall, I thought it showed some positives in terms of mentality, desire and fitness in the closing stages - those are big positives for me. But negatively, the quality needs lifting in the attack - you can't deny that, especially not after the first half. We need 2 or 3 additions in that final 3. We can't rely on Archer in a wide position or Armstrong through the middle and expect to compete.

MOTM is a tough one as I felt it was all a bit sluggish, but I'd give it to Charles. I thought he was good on the ball and progressive with his passing through the line (forward passing I'd add). 

Good to start with a win, but not getting too excited just yet - there's a lot of work to do if we are to be competitive in the top end this year.

Agree, we did have some good chances first half and really should have scored , but overall we were far too easy to defend against 

[Wsaint]

23 minutes ago, BarberSaint said:

Back from the game.

First half we were nothing.  A better team but no desire, invention, anything.

Second half better and glad we got the win. Deserved overall. They were nothing with Moore on and less with him off.  He is quite canny and very dirty. We were a poor side until MF came on though.

Baz. Still doesn't hold himself like a goalie but the fingertip save was excellent. 5

Suga   - oh well. A generous 4.

Edwards.  In some ways good, did cope with KM quite well apart from being about 18 inches shorter than him and very slow - why didn't Quarshie take him? 5 (just)

JS - couple of moments where you could see the farts forming. Same old. Good for the goal. 5

Quarshie. Ok at this level. Didn't see the electric pace. Thought nothing of the long throws. Can't see him stepping up. Falls asleep a bit too. Not especially convincing defensively. 5

Welington - looked alright. Continuously ignored when he went on the overlap. 5

Downes. Ok. Not much of anything. Did nobble one of their players which was nice. 5

Charles. Ok. Very right footed, doesn't look like he'll score many in his career. 5 - maybe  5.5.

Fraser. Busy. Not much use really, even at the end when he did get crosses in. I'd use him as a sub. 4.

Robinson. His first touch is a second touch, no power, head down.  Quite unimpressive despite what people here are saying. Did try to and occasionally did make things happen though so he was effective. Don't see him as a PL player ever though. 5

AA - same as, but less busy.

Subs:

MF - lifted everyone and the team played better. 

Manning. Did well. Is quite slow at getting his head up; most of us are.

RS - looks very frail and fragile. Might develop into a footballer, but based on that he was poor.

DD - looked quite good and made a couple of good, clever runs that were missed.

CA - didn't do much. 

Can't see Wrexham doing anything other than struggling based on that.

Wrexham will be fine, they won't be winning the league or playoff's, but I think they'll stay up. They've recruited well and will give teams a hard time. Your ratings show you're being a negative nelly. The first half was sub par but I'd say the team and subs stepped it up in the second half considerably.

[Nolan]

If we didn't have the frustration from getting so much from so many attempts, we don't have that intensity at the end.

[BarberSaint]

6 minutes ago, saintant said:

Blimey, looks like we're certs for relegation judging by these marks and comments.

Nope, but I'd 've thought so after the first half.  We weren't very good and I'm not going to be over-elated because we won in extra time (Fucking get in there! Well deserved!) because we really weren't very good and were playing a 'team' that were plainly awful.   There are many, much better teams and we'll have to do better to get promoted automatically and we'll have to be consistent and have a much more potent attack. There is clearly a huge lack of creativity in the side and if we had a few players who could 'make things happen' it would change that side of the game immensely.  I looked at the game as a whole and we were often outright pedestrian. 

[Markyruk]

Ffs, I can’t believe the negativity on here. We’ve just won a tough game where the opponents were really up for it. Let’s just celebrate 3 points and move on.

[ErwinK1961]

2 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

I still hold out hope for Sugawara but based on what we've seen from both of them, Bree should be first choice every time down the right. 

Sums up exactly why we want another RB

[SWLondon Saint]

3 minutes ago, Markyruk said:

Ffs, I can’t believe the negativity on here. We’ve just won a tough game where the opponents were really up for it. Let’s just celebrate 3 points and move on.

Absolutely agree, sometimes playing shit and winning is all that matters. For anyone wishing we were someone else, the supercomputer's choice for champions Sheffield Utd currently 4-1 down AT HOME. 

[Matthew Le God]

 

[Football Special]

1 minute ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Absolutely agree, sometimes playing shit and winning is all that matters. For anyone wishing we were someone else, the supercomputer's choice for champions Sheffield Utd currently 4-1 down AT HOME. 

I think it was a huge psychological importance to win today,  so so long since we've experienced that feeling,  for once a feelgood factor coming out of the ground,  being an early kick off and sunny day loads still out in the pubs several hours later. 

Lots of weaknesses today though that I'm sure Still will want addressing 

[Pamplemousse]

Left the game on 89 mins, fed up of this club. Utter dross. I was done when we brought Manning on, waste of a sub

[Sir Ralph]

14 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Love the guy. It’s not by chance we scored 2 goals in the last few minutes- that’s winning mentality. I would want to play under him cause he is an authentic human being

Edited yesterday at 18:22 by Sir Ralph

[Sheaf Saint]

11 minutes ago, Markyruk said:

Ffs, I can’t believe the negativity on here. We’ve just won a tough game where the opponents were really up for it. Let’s just celebrate 3 points and move on.

I don't think there's a single person here who isn't delighted that we won, but it's totally fair to also point out the flaws in our performance. It was the first competitive game under a new manager, and there were plenty of learning points to take from it. Wrexham really weren't very good and we made it a lot harder than it should have been with a very ineffective forward line in the first half. One or two players were very poor so it's perfectly reasonable to discuss that while still celebrating the three points.

[S-Clarke]

18 minutes ago, Markyruk said:

Ffs, I can’t believe the negativity on here. We’ve just won a tough game where the opponents were really up for it. Let’s just celebrate 3 points and move on.

Not really seeing any negativity, there's nothing better than a last min win. There needs to be realism with it though, it wasn't perfect. It would be daft to stand there and proclaim it was all unicorns and rainbows, it really wasn't.

Great feeling today, long time coming, but there's a lot of work to be done.

[The Kraken]

15 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Scar tissue has been replaced by trauma.

[Give it to Ron]

18 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Absolutely agree, sometimes playing shit and winning is all that matters. For anyone wishing we were someone else, the supercomputer's choice for champions Sheffield Utd currently 4-1 down AT HOME. 

Reuben Selles first home game too 

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

12 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Love the guy

Will have to watch that again. Haven’t really watched him being interviewed before but he seemed tired and low energy?

[SNSUN]

Not that it will happen, but I'd love Tyler to see Jay's contribution and suddenly realise playing week in week out at this level beats spending a season coming off the bench at the HillDick whilst watching Dwight McNeil do next to nothing instead.

Instead... pay up Everton so we can add someone else.

[lhammondo]

4 hours ago, Monk said:

Do not underestimate that save from Gav and the recovery from Jack (wasn’t sure if it was him or Ronnie).
 

There’s a mistake or two in Quarshie but he’s gonna be a fan favourite. 

Big fan of not returning the ball back to Wrexham, who by the way are utter dross without Kieffer Moore. 

I enjoyed Quarshie giving a shoulder to whichever Wrexham player tried to pull his shirt off when the penalty wasn't given. Some needed aggression 

[Give it to Ron]

8 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

Will have to watch that again. Haven’t really watched him being interviewed before but he seemed tired and low energy?

Think that’s him to be fair he isn’t a Nathan Jones - thankfully!

Was so good to see us go for it in the end my only issue today was not playing Downs or Stewart from the start we had no physical or height outlet. Still etc changed it and was so glad to see him do that.

Edited yesterday at 18:35 by Give it to Ron

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, BarberSaint said:

Back from the game.

First half we were nothing.  A better team but no desire, invention, anything.

Second half better and glad we got the win. Deserved overall. They were nothing with Moore on and less with him off.  He is quite canny and very dirty. We were a poor side until MF came on though.

Baz. Still doesn't hold himself like a goalie but the fingertip save was excellent. 5

Suga   - oh well. A generous 4.

Edwards.  In some ways good, did cope with KM quite well apart from being about 18 inches shorter than him and very slow - why didn't Quarshie take him? 5 (just)

JS - couple of moments where you could see the farts forming. Same old. Good for the goal. 5

Quarshie. Ok at this level. Didn't see the electric pace. Thought nothing of the long throws. Can't see him stepping up. Falls asleep a bit too. Not especially convincing defensively. 5

Welington - looked alright. Continuously ignored when he went on the overlap. 5

Downes. Ok. Not much of anything. Did nobble one of their players which was nice. 5

Charles. Ok. Very right footed, doesn't look like he'll score many in his career. 5 - maybe  5.5.

Fraser. Busy. Not much use really, even at the end when he did get crosses in. I'd use him as a sub. 4.

Robinson. His first touch is a second touch, no power, head down.  Quite unimpressive despite what people here are saying. Did try to and occasionally did make things happen though so he was effective. Don't see him as a PL player ever though. 5

AA - same as, but less busy.

Subs:

MF - lifted everyone and the team played better. 

Manning. Did well. Is quite slow at getting his head up; most of us are.

RS - looks very frail and fragile. Might develop into a footballer, but based on that he was poor.

DD - looked quite good and made a couple of good, clever runs that were missed.

CA - didn't do much. 

Can't see Wrexham doing anything other than struggling based on that.

Are those scores out of 10? If so you're in for a fucking disappointing season mate.