Damion Downs

[SW5 SAINT]

10 hours ago, SouSaint said:

They made significant profit on Lavia and Fernandes, and a profit on Alcaraz but that's it as far as their signings go. Everyone else seems to have been sold at a loss but they managed to recoup good fees for Mara and Sulemana. 

Livramento…….!

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, SW5 SAINT said:

Livramento…….!

Was signed before the SR takeover.

[Patches O Houlihan]

Those buy and sell figures for players don’t include agent fees. Which would surely close that £12m gap

[Challenger]

Loan him out to Eastleigh, Sholing or somewhere for a month. If he can't score for them then cancel his contract.

[Willo of Whiteley]

4 hours ago, SW5 SAINT said:

Livramento…….!

He was signed before Sport Republic took over. The takeover went through in January, we signed him in the August four months or so before.

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, Challenger said:

Loan him out to Eastleigh, Sholing or somewhere for a month. If he can't score for them then cancel his contract.

How does that help? Saints would have to pay him a huge amount of money.

[Challenger]

46 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

How does that help? Saints would have to pay him a huge amount of money.

In case you haven't realised it yet, Saints will be paying him a huge amount of money in order to jog around the pitch doing sod all anyway. If you can somehow devise a method of getting a tune out of this dud, then for fucks sake have a word with someone at the club.

[BarberSaint]

29 minutes ago, Challenger said:

In case you haven't realised it yet, Saints will be paying him a huge amount of money in order to jog around the pitch doing sod all anyway. If you can somehow devise a method of getting a tune out of this dud, then for fucks sake have a word with someone at the club.

Can he play for the band?

 

Then we only have to see a minute or so each home match before the game starts.

[Osvaldorama]

6 hours ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

Those buy and sell figures for players don’t include agent fees. Which would surely close that £12m gap

Doesn’t count inflation either. In the 3 years they’ve been here £362mil is now worth £316mil or so.

They’d have needed to clear a lot more in today’s money to break even.

So yeah, whichever way you look at it they’ve been a disaster, on and off the pitch. 
 

At least we have mini golf now

[Andy Hill]

It would be nice to know why we signed him ?? Maybe he makes a nice cuppa !

[Patches O Houlihan]

7 hours ago, Andy Hill said:

It would be nice to know why we signed him ?? Maybe he makes a nice cuppa !

German Americans are not reknown for their ability to get a good brew on. Having seen him play I’m betting he’d put the milk in first, and pour the water in before the kettle had come to the boil.. there’s also the chance he’d add salt not sugar 😬

[Matthew Le God]

11 hours ago, Challenger said:

In case you haven't realised it yet, Saints will be paying him a huge amount of money in order to jog around the pitch doing sod all anyway. If you can somehow devise a method of getting a tune out of this dud, then for fucks sake have a word with someone at the club.

"Cancelling his contract" does not save money. He is due those wages, you cant just end his contract and not pay him. It also removes a means to get some of the money we spent on him back from selling him. 

[Lighthouse]

Cancelling his contract isn’t a silly enough reaction to his first two months, IMO. I think we should put him in the stocks in front of the Guildhall and shove Cadbury Mini Eggs up his bum.

[Challenger]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

"Cancelling his contract" does not save money. He is due those wages, you cant just end his contract and not pay him. It also removes a means to get some of the money we spent on him back from selling him. 

Indeed, however "saving money" was not mentioned in my posts, the financial damage has already occurred with regards to this particular wonder signing.

A loan out to a lower league club would still not be a bad Idea regardless of contracts, just to see how "good" he performs there.

[trousers]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

shove Cadbury Mini Eggs up his bum.

Whenever Lady Trousers does that to me, it's only ever as a reward rather than a punishment.

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, Challenger said:

Indeed, however "saving money" was not mentioned in my posts, the financial damage has already occurred with regards to this particular wonder signing.

Even though he currently doesn’t look to be a good signing, his value is not £0. Makes no sense to pay him the rest of his contract and leave for nothing, when he could be sold and some of the transfer fee recouped.

[ally_uk]

So you lads have written him off completely?

Come on surely it's early days....

[Lord Duckhunter]

4 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

Cancelling his contract" does not save money. He is due those wages, you cant just end his contract and not pay him.

It does, we won’t have to pay any add ons……..….. like his goal bonus…

[Whitey Grandad]

41 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

So you lads have written him off completely?

Come on surely it's early days....

It will take until the end of his contract just to teach him how to control a ball. 

[Lighthouse]

47 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

So you lads have written him off completely?

Come on surely it's early days....

You've changed your tune.

On 04/10/2025 at 18:50, ally_uk said:

Whoever scouted him is a twat...

 

End of discussion 

 

[Badger]

8 hours ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

German Americans are not reknown for their ability to get a good brew on. Having seen him play I’m betting he’d put the milk in first, and pour the water in before the kettle had come to the boil.. there’s also the chance he’d add salt not sugar 😬

Good point, but based on what we’ve seen over the last few months:

Not sure Still would motivate him to get into the kitchen to have a chance to make it.

And despite having a lengthy shopping list this summer Spors overlooked buying a kettle or cups. There was a kettle there already, (although hadn’t worked properly for 12 months). 

[Maggie May]

I’m all for giving new players the benefit of the doubt and more leeway in settling in to a new league.

Can anyone recall a player in our recent history that started poorly and managed to turn it around? Mane, perhaps?

[qwertyell]

30 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

I’m all for giving new players the benefit of the doubt and more leeway in settling in to a new league.

Can anyone recall a player in our recent history that started poorly and managed to turn it around? Mane, perhaps?

Che Adams didn't score his first goal for Saints until March (or the equivalent of March - it was actually July due to the Covid shutdown). 

He managed a respectable 9 goals the following season. 

Adam Armstrong scored on his debut but then only three times more across two seasons. And then he bagged 21 in the Championship.

[ally_uk]

20 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

You've changed your tune.

 

No he is still shite.... 🤣

[Disco Stu]

3 hours ago, qwertyell said:

Che Adams didn't score his first goal for Saints until March (or the equivalent of March - it was actually July due to the Covid shutdown). 

He managed a respectable 9 goals the following season. 

Adam Armstrong scored on his debut but then only three times more across two seasons. And then he bagged 21 in the Championship.

True but Che's ability in holding the ball and build up play was immediately evident.

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, Disco Stu said:

True but Che's ability in holding the ball and build up play was immediately evident.

Yeah and IIRC he was unlucky a few times before he broke his duck, hitting the post etc... Downs hasn't even come close to making a connection with a shot yet, let alone hit the woodwork. 

[spyinthesky]

With his stunning start to his Saints career, surprising to see he wasnt included in the squad to play Australia today.

[Badger]

14 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

With his stunning start to his Saints career, surprising to see he wasnt included in the squad to play Australia today.

Best kept under wraps, then unleashed at the World Cup on the unsuspecting world.

Damion will be in the White House and back slapping with Donald next July and make no mistake. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

On 12/10/2025 at 07:56, Maggie May said:

I’m all for giving new players the benefit of the doubt and more leeway in settling in to a new league.

Can anyone recall a player in our recent history that started poorly and managed to turn it around? Mane, perhaps?

Yes, that’s a good point. We’ll, it would be if it were not for the fact that Mane could trap a ball, run past several players and actually look like he had a chance of scoring. Downs appears to have none of that promise based on the times I’ve been unfortunate to see him play.

[leeham_69]

On 11/10/2025 at 06:38, BarberSaint said:

Can he play for the band?

 

Then we only have to see a minute or so each home match before the game starts.

wouldn't that be in an increase in visibility? 😆

[Disco Stu]

3 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Yes, that’s a good point. We’ll, it would be if it were not for the fact that Mane could trap a ball, run past several players and actually look like he had a chance of scoring. Downs appears to have none of that promise based on the times I’ve been unfortunate to see him play.

I've always found the "Mane started poorly for us" line grossly exaggerated.

[StrangelyBrown]

2 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

I've always found the "Mane started poorly for us" line grossly exaggerated.

Agreed. You could see he had something, just didn't click right away.

There us literally nothing about Downs. Is he related to George Weah by any chance?

Edited 15 hours ago by StrangelyBrown

[Ex Lion Tamer]

14 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said:

Agreed. You could see he had something, just didn't click right away.

To be fair, there were A LOT of people on here who couldn't see that. He was getting slaughtered

[Saint_clark]

On 12/10/2025 at 13:50, Sheaf Saint said:

Yeah and IIRC he was unlucky a few times before he broke his duck, hitting the post etc... Downs hasn't even come close to making a connection with a shot yet, let alone hit the woodwork. 

You mean in the whole 183 minutes he's played in the league for us? Seems a reasonable amount of time to give someone in a team that's finding it's feet.

[suewhistle]

He doesn't seem very good, but it's patently obvious that his confidence is shot, and we're not getting a  representation of what his true level is.  We need to put some team to the sword and then bring him on to hopefully get a goal as well, as scoring is the only thing I think will bring any improvement.

[trousers]

4 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

He doesn't seem very good, but it's patently obvious that his confidence is shot, and we're not getting a  representation of what his true level is.  We need to put some team to the sword and then bring him on to hopefully get a goal as well, as scoring is the only thing I think will bring any improvement.

Agreed, but I still think there's a case for playing him in the u21s for a few games as a confidence builder. That said, there's probably an opposite train of thought that says 'demoting' him could undermine his confidence even further... "Damned if you do...."

[Dman]

4 hours ago, StrangelyBrown said:

Agreed. You could see he had something, just didn't click right away.

There us literally nothing about Downs. Is he related to George Weah by any chance?

Is that true, I'm not sure it is. 

First game he played was Espanyol pre-season and he came on, looked lively and scored a decent, well taken goal. 

Since then, all of our forwards have looked poor, alal be it Downs the worst of them. 

I personally think the issue is deep rooted with the system

[James G]

If you read his scouting reports, he is regarded quite highly and has alot of assets. I think he just needs time to adapt. He has only played the equivalent of 2 full games so far in minutes this season

[Pamplemousse]

11 minutes ago, Dman said:

Is that true, I'm not sure it is. 

First game he played was Espanyol pre-season and he came on, looked lively and scored a decent, well taken goal. 

Since then, all of our forwards have looked poor, alal be it Downs the worst of them. 

I personally think the issue is deep rooted with the system

Pochettino sees something in him. What on earth does he know?

Having said that, for the money spent, it's a really, really poor signing. We could've signed a decent striker at this level for that sort of money.

[suewhistle]

40 minutes ago, trousers said:

Agreed, but I still think there's a case for playing him in the u21s for a few games as a confidence builder. That said, there's probably an opposite train of thought that says 'demoting' him could undermine his confidence even further... "Damned if you do...."

Quite. It would be easier if he'd been injured and we then had the excuse that he needed to get match fit.

[Saint Fan CaM]

56 minutes ago, trousers said:

Agreed, but I still think there's a case for playing him in the u21s for a few games as a confidence builder. That said, there's probably an opposite train of thought that says 'demoting' him could undermine his confidence even further... "Damned if you do...."

I think there’s a huge case for giving some time in the U-21’s - namely he’s not doing the basics well. Lack of pace and hard graft, can’t trap a ball, can’t get into the right positions in the box (too late or too early), can’t provide an assist and can’t shoot on target for toffee. The first team should be a place to exhibit what you’ve learnt and proven at Staplewood, not used as a training match to develop confidence.

£15m worth of striking talent? Someone’s ’avin a laff!

[qwertyell]

On 12/10/2025 at 12:14, Disco Stu said:

True but Che's ability in holding the ball and build up play was immediately evident.

Sure. But we paid £15m for him on account of having scored 21 goals the previous season. 

Going the first two thirds of the season without so much as a goal, no-one was suggesting "this has been a successful signing" on the basis of some solid hold up play. 

He was absolutely useless at the thing with signed him for. Initially. 

Sadly, a common trait with the majority of our attacking signings across the last decade. Downs is, so far, just a continuation of that trend.