Coventry v Saints - Saturday 1230

[LegalEagle]

If anyone has a couple of tickets they want to sell please could you let me know. Happy to pay a small premium…..

[benjii]

Best inadvertent match thread ever.

 

How about:

Usual GK and back 4

 -------Downes------

---Charles---Jander--

Fellows-----------Edozie

----------Larin--------

Get a really solid platform out of possession but allowing Charles and Jander to get into the box and feed off crosses into Larin.

Azaz in reserve if we need more in the middle.

[LegalEagle]

20 minutes ago, benjii said:

Best inadvertent match thread ever.

 

How about:

Usual GK and back 4

 -------Downes------

---Charles---Jander--

Fellows-----------Edozie

----------Larin--------

Get a really solid platform out of possession but allowing Charles and Jander to get into the box and feed off crosses into Larin.

Azaz in reserve if we need more in the middle.

Best inadvertent match thread ever
 

indeed - apologies!

[saintant]

26 minutes ago, benjii said:

Best inadvertent match thread ever.

 

How about:

Usual GK and back 4

 -------Downes------

---Charles---Jander--

Fellows-----------Edozie

----------Larin--------

Get a really solid platform out of possession but allowing Charles and Jander to get into the box and feed off crosses into Larin.

Azaz in reserve if we need more in the middle.

Wouldn't play Charles after he was so poor yesterday. Rather give Bragg a start.

[OneMrsWallace]

Larin in for Stewart

Edozie starts 

Fellows only used if desperate, he's been really poor for some time now

We should get more space as Coventry will attack us, so I'd keep Azaz in. 

Anyone heard when Wellington is due back. He gets us up the pitch at pace, which is crucial with Scienza missing. 

[Obstacle1]

38 minutes ago, benjii said:

Best inadvertent match thread ever.

 

How about:

Usual GK and back 4

 -------Downes------

---Charles---Jander--

Fellows-----------Edozie

----------Larin--------

Get a really solid platform out of possession but allowing Charles and Jander to get into the box and feed off crosses into Larin.

Azaz in reserve if we need more in the middle.

I would play Azaz when the opposition arent going to play a low block. And Charles was really poor last night

[Saint_Jonny]

I think this will play out like the Leicester game towards the end of 23/24. Running out of steam after a run of tough games and griding out good results, only to come up against a much better side and getting absolutely bummed. 

Of course I hope I am wrong, but I reckon 4-0 Cov.

[Mattio]

At least OP will keep his request bumped 😂

[Turkish]

221 posts in 10 years Are we sure this isn’t @Noodles34 trying to entrap people?

@franniesTache can we do a forensic exam on this posting style 

Remember the FAB are watching. 

[BARCELONASAINT]

Got a Coventry supporting mate in the office, he will be unbearable on Saturday. I can't say i'm confident we will  come away with anything but a loss.

[Pamplemousse]

Treat them like a Prem team because that's what they are. Sit back and hit them on the counter.

[benjii]

1 hour ago, saintant said:

Wouldn't play Charles after he was so poor yesterday. Rather give Bragg a start.

He's one of the best midfielders in the division and should be relatively fresh at this stage of the season. I wouldn't drop him on the back of one ropey match.

[benjii]

1 hour ago, Obstacle1 said:

I would play Azaz when the opposition arent going to play a low block. And Charles was really poor last night

Good point re Azaz.

[franniesTache]

25 minutes ago, Turkish said:

221 posts in 10 years Are we sure this isn’t @Noodles34 trying to entrap people?

@franniesTache can we do a forensic exam on this posting style 

Remember the FAB are watching. 

I am supposed to be meeting him at Coventry station on Saturday, I am now concerned that when i step off the rattler instead of being greeted by  @Noodles34 I shall instead be met by The FAB's armed Stazi wing ready to bundle me into a re-education gulag.

Scary times

[Saint86]

2 hours ago, benjii said:

Best inadvertent match thread ever.

 

How about:

Usual GK and back 4

 -------Downes------

---Charles---Jander--

Fellows-----------Edozie

----------Larin--------

Get a really solid platform out of possession but allowing Charles and Jander to get into the box and feed off crosses into Larin.

Azaz in reserve if we need more in the middle.

We will miss Downes if that is the line up (although i think he will be partially rested). Will have to repeat the Fulham game plan (minus leo).

[Doctoroncall]

21 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Treat them like a Prem team because that's what they are. Sit back and hit them on the counter.

They have a nine point advantage over third so have one foot there already I’d say. 

Certainly need to up our game. 

[benjii]

30 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

We will miss Downes if that is the line up (although i think he will be partially rested). Will have to repeat the Fulham game plan (minus leo).

Look closer.

[saintant]

2 hours ago, benjii said:

He's one of the best midfielders in the division and should be relatively fresh at this stage of the season. I wouldn't drop him on the back of one ropey match.

He really isn't.

[Zorba]

FFL is a tosser! I hope we beat them.

[Harry_SFC]

13 minutes ago, saintant said:

He really isn't.

He was very good until he got injured. Hasn't been the same since. 

[VectisSaint]

42 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

He was very good until he got injured. Hasn't been the same since. 

Apart from last night he has actually. Like everyone else he seemed to be way off last night. The whole team and the performance stunk.

[Toadhall Saint]

Draw

[bpsaint]

Can’t see us getting anything out of this to be honest, they seem to have found another gear this last month and are in the home stretch.

Perform like we did last night and it’ll be a hammering, they don’t fuck about in front of goal.

[LGTL]

No Scienza is the worst possible outcome against this lot. We do have the squad capable of getting a result but it depends which version of us turns up.

Peretz

Bree

THB

Stephens

Manning

Charles

Downes

Edozie

Azaz

Fellows

Larin

There’s a couple in there who don’t deserve a start, but the way Coventry play should hopefully help the likes of Azaz. We’re always better against teams who don’t just sit in a low block the whole game. 

Edited 22 hours ago by LGTL

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

28 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Can’t see us getting anything out of this to be honest,

We seem to have a real problem with clubs that put players behind the ball. Coventry won't so providing Tonda doesn't do a brain fart and revert to 5 at the back, we've got a real chance to get something from this match. The danger is he forced to rest too many potential match winning players

No mention from the club about Scienza's fitness. Given we play Norwich next Wednesday, there's a chance he might even be rested. Similarly, Stewart's 'tightness' might mean he's also rested. Middlesbro fans said Azaz goes missing in key games. He need to find some of those threaded passes in this match.

[die Mannyschaft]

I think Saints are a very good 8th place team and that's were we will be end next season. There are some positives from the wasted first half of season and have played some brilliant football  but;

Too slow

Take too long on the ball in all areas

Not enough creative play

Can't play good football in both halves generally 

Can't defend corners 

Still obsessed with risky passing back

No prolific scorer.

Any of the teams above us will take advantage of Saints weaknesses the worry is that teams below us also play much better than expected. Scienza and Ross out will be a big hit. Coventry win 4-0. It will be a miracle if we win almost the same v Arsenal.

Can't we get a proven goal scorer on loan? Even someone from Deby, Watford,  Stoke, Wolves, Spurs there must be someone who has 15 goals wanting a play off chance. 

[die Mannyschaft]

1 hour ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

We seem to have a real problem with clubs that put players behind the ball. Coventry won't so providing Tonda doesn't do a brain fart and revert to 5 at the back, we've got a real chance to get something from this match. The danger is he forced to rest too many potential match winning players

No mention from the club about Scienza's fitness. Given we play Norwich next Wednesday, there's a chance he might even be rested. Similarly, Stewart's 'tightness' might mean he's also rested. Middlesbro fans said Azaz goes missing in key games. He need to find some of those threaded passes in this match.

We don't have a creative team. Take Scienza out and its RM robotics football. The tactics doesn't allow for any skill to get passed players

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Larin starts for me over Stewart. Going to need more of a physical presence up top to hold the ball up. 

[Roo1976]

17 hours ago, saintant said:

Wouldn't play Charles after he was so poor yesterday. Rather give Bragg a start.

TBH bragg wasnt that much better either...imo. BTW whats happened to Robinson?

[Charlie Wayman]

Without Downes and Scienza, might as well stay at home. The midfield battle is so crucial in this type of match and a preferred midfield of Bragg and Jander will struggle to dominate.

Up front it has to be Larin irrespectie of Stewart's availability. 

Let's hope that Wednesday evening was a low energy blip; a similar showing tomorrow will sink any ambition of a play-off place. Unfortunately it is a must win game that we must win which seems unlikely.

Edited 11 hours ago by Charlie Wayman

[Charlie Wayman]

17 minutes ago, Roo1976 said:

TBH bragg wasnt that much better either...imo. BTW whats happened to Robinson?

He's a young lad in his first season at this level, we should not expect too much of him however good his potential.

[Turkish]

If we defend in a low block, win most turnovers, get it quickly into the red zone, use our pivots effectively whilst maintaining an effective use or our false 9s so we can over achieve against our XG I can’t see anything other than a 2-0 win.  

[Noodles34]

16 hours ago, franniesTache said:

I am supposed to be meeting him at Coventry station on Saturday, I am now concerned that when i step off the rattler instead of being greeted by  @Noodles34 I shall instead be met by The FAB's armed Stazi wing ready to bundle me into a re-education gulag.

Scary times

Your round 

[Noodles34]

25 minutes ago, Turkish said:

If we defend in a low block, win most turnovers, get it quickly into the red zone, use our pivots effectively whilst maintaining an effective use or our false 9s so we can over achieve against our XG I can’t see anything other than a 2-0 win.  

What matchday week is this please? 

[Patrick Bateman]

42 minutes ago, Turkish said:

If we defend in a low block, win most turnovers, get it quickly into the red zone, use our pivots effectively whilst maintaining an effective use or our false 9s so we can over achieve against our XG I can’t see anything other than a 2-0 win.  

Genuine question - from what I can understand, this new 'low block' term is simply parking the bus, yes?  Why is football such a load of bollocks now ... 

[skintsaint]

2 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

from what I can understand, this new 'low block' term is simply parking the bus, yes? 

Pretty much, sitting back, defending deep etc etc.

[Willo of Whiteley]

Coventry 2-0 Saints

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Genuine question - from what I can understand, this new 'low block' term is simply parking the bus, yes?  Why is football such a load of bollocks now ... 

it is FAR more complex than that. You’re simply highlighting how little you know 🙄

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

Pretty much, sitting back, defending deep etc etc.

Get out 

[egg]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Genuine question - from what I can understand, this new 'low block' term is simply parking the bus, yes?  Why is football such a load of bollocks now ... 

Yep. Park the bus. Loads of the new terms are changes for the sake of it.

'Double pivot' was a midfield 2 or pair once,  we don't have sweepers anymore either as they've become a ball playing centre back, the midfield general is now a single pivot, a box to box midfielder is apparently a number 8 now, an attacking midfielder a number 10, etc. 

All nonsense to excite the kids. 

[Turkish]

22 minutes ago, egg said:

Yep. Park the bus. Loads of the new terms are changes for the sake of it.

'Double pivot' was a midfield 2 or pair once,  we don't have sweepers anymore either as they've become a ball playing centre back, the midfield general is now a single pivot, a box to box midfielder is apparently a number 8 now, an attacking midfielder a number 10, etc. 

All nonsense to excite the kids. 

It’s highly amusing listening to parents in their 40s and 50s talking this way. A few ago I was subjected to a tactical analysis of our teams performance by a dad in his 50s who has never kicked a ball in his life he only started watching football a few years ago when his boys started playing. We won 3-2 against a team who hadn’t lost for 2 years. Apparently for the last 10 minutes we were too negative, the midfield double pivot was unnecessary, we should have gone to a mid block and our CAM faded out of the game second half. He then went onto tell me that his son is a perfect number 10 because he has a good shot and despite playing CB or centre mid for us, his school and Harrogate Towns u13s we’d all got it wrong so hes not able to show his skills higher up the pitch 

Edited 9 hours ago by Turkish

[Charlie Wayman]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Genuine question - from what I can understand, this new 'low block' term is simply parking the bus, yes?  Why is football such a load of bollocks now ... 

It's what happens when everything becomes gentrified. Football is such an enigma

[Patrick Bateman]

34 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s highly amusing listening to parents in their 40s and 50s talking this way. A few ago I was subjected to a tactical analysis of our teams performance by a dad in his 50s who has never kicked a ball in his life he only started watching football a few years ago when his boys started playing. We won 3-2 against a team who hadn’t lost for 2 years. Apparently for the last 10 minutes we were too negative, the midfield double pivot was unnecessary, we should have gone to a mid block and our CAM faded out of the game second half. He then went onto tell me that his son is a perfect number 10 because he has a good shot and despite playing CB or centre mid for us, his school and Harrogate Towns u13s we’d all got it wrong so hes not able to show his skills higher up the pitch 

I can picture this really clearly. I had a similar 'chat' with a school Dad (who doesn't support 1 team, he likes many), I couldn't take it, I just turned around and walked away. Never spoke to him again. 

[Turkish]

29 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

I can picture this really clearly. I had a similar 'chat' with a school Dad (who doesn't support 1 team, he likes many), I couldn't take it, I just turned around and walked away. Never spoke to him again. 

The funny thing is with these people is when you ask them questions on why they think this they can never answer. Like silly bollocks who thinks his son should be CAM because he’s got a good shot even something simple like what other qualities do you think he has that make him a good CAM they can never answer. The line that he doesn’t get a chance to show how good he is was hilarious, my reply was he does hes a good defensive player which is why me with 42 years experience of playing, coaching and watching football, his school coach and coaches at a professional club play him there, not as a CAM. Ergo STFU you clueless prick.

Edited 8 hours ago by Turkish

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

23 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

I can picture this really clearly. I had a similar 'chat' with a school Dad (who doesn't support 1 team, he likes many), I couldn't take it, I just turned around and walked away. Never spoke to him again. 

Bet he loves Champions League football. Despite it being rammed down our throats, I couldn't even tell you who was in it, and this week watched the Wrexham game on TV.

Might be something to do with the fact that those games aren't on Sky but you get the drift....

[Nordic Saint]

15 hours ago, LGTL said:

No Scienza is the worst possible outcome against this lot. We do have the squad capable of getting a result but it depends which version of us turns up.

Peretz

Bree

THB

Stephens

Manning

Charles

Downes

Edozie

Azaz

Fellows

Larin

There’s a couple in there who don’t deserve a start, but the way Coventry play should hopefully help the likes of Azaz. We’re always better against teams who don’t just sit in a low block the whole game. 

When you see that, you realize how much stronger Coventry's squad is. They have better players than us in nearly every position. Rushworth, van Ewjck, Rudoni...Their attack is so full of goal scorers, it's ridiculous: Wright, Thomas-Assante, Mason-Clark, Simms.... We have 2 players who might get into their team: Harwood-Bellis and Scienza.

[franniesTache]

3 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Genuine question - from what I can understand, this new 'low block' term is simply parking the bus, yes?  Why is football such a load of bollocks now ... 

My favourite bullshit term is "aerial duals" as if we've got a fucking spitfire and messerschmitt hovering over the pitch. I'm honestly convinced that the rise of this MBA speak in football is so posh folk can justify liking the game and getting to make out it's "actually intelligent and complex", instead of just 22 blokes kicking a ball around.

3 hours ago, Noodles34 said:

Your round 

Bit fucking hurtful that mush, i'll have to report you to the FAB grass line for being sizeist, another period in the gulags it is for you 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

4 hours ago, Roo1976 said:

TBH bragg wasnt that much better either...imo. BTW whats happened to Robinson?

Roving reporters, and Saints fans, Simon & Garfunkel managed to ask his mum.

Where's your son, Mrs. Robinson?
The fans loves him more than you will know, wo wo wo
Ah, c'mon please , Mrs. Robinson
Heaven holds a place for those who say, hey hey hey
Hey hey hey

We'd like to know a little bit about him for our files
We'd like to help him learn to help himself
Look around you, all you see are sympathetic eyes
Stroll around St Mary's until you feel at home

Cup tied, you say, Mrs. Robinson?
Or out for two weeks from a blow, wo wo wo
Is he dropped, Mrs. Robinson?
Heaven holds a place for those who train, yeah, it's a pain
It's a pain...

[Saint NL]

On that topic, my kids team is coached by an ex-Pro, he played for Arsenal in the PL. When he explains to the kids what to do/not do, he explains it so clearly it just seems so simple. 

No word salad, no jargon, just simple instructions that are immediately understood by everyone. 

Maybe if you have real world credentials you don't need to make up bullshit to sound smart? 🤷

[trousers]

Saints U21s currently in action vs Man Utd....Oyekunle not in the squad... Assume he's poised to replace Ross "Tightness" Stewart in tomorrow's squad...?