Boro 0-0 Saints - Match Thread

[benjii]

4 minutes ago, kraftwerk26 said:

Its a unwanted distraction this...might give the boro lads a boost

I dunno, if anything it will hopefully make them second guess what they're up to.

Either way, our lot just need to play their game.

[saintant]

2 hours ago, Teamsaint1 said:

Apologies if this has been covered , but if Boro really found a “ spy “ with footage why  would they force him to delete the  actual evidence ?  
 

I asked the same quetion.

[kraftwerk26]

1 minute ago, benjii said:

I dunno, if anything it will hopefully make them second guess what they're up to.

Either way, our lot just need to play their game.

I honestly cant believe Tonda had anything to do with this if its true

[Willo of Whiteley]

The EFL have now got to be so careful with their next actions.

They HAVE to be sure Saints have done wrong in order to go ahead with any form of sanction; and by the sounds of it there is no evidence.

Realistically they could rush it but that could backfire on them.
Saints have gained no advantage to this.

You can’t sanction someone for having a mobile phone up north - then again if anyone up north does have a mobile it’s likely been stolen.
It’s probably actually a Boro fan. 🤣

Edited yesterday at 20:05 by Willo of Whiteley

[sfc4prem]

8 minutes ago, miltonroad said:

Nauseating chat from them. Who’s the bloke in the back who’s now asking “how long have they been cheating”. Tessem aside, hardly in our corner. Their excitement over the “scandal” is bizarre. 

Classic vulturistic, voyeuristic gossip-mongering journalists. They fucking love it. The sort that bitch and moan about other people at work behind their back. The sort that fan the flames of rumour into a frenzy with limited evidence. They can suck a dick and piss off.

[sfc4prem]

16 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

Aside from the actual match I can see it being pretty dodgy around the ground post game, especially if we get a result.

Really? I thought Boro fans were a bunch of apathetic wet lettuces?

[Saint86]

2 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said:

BBC report which does seem to see the funny side of events https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1725d15p0ko

So lets be clear. Now its a random guy stood on a hill on the adajcent golf course with his mobile phone taking a video... Can't imagine how much of that he was able to see. And the Boro staff are the ones that just happened to have high powered cameras on hand to snap this guy... and the hotel / golf course where this is all allegedly took place on is owner by the boro owner? No wonder we haven't replied, they're making right fools of themselves with this one.

Edited yesterday at 20:27 by Saint86

[Saint NL]

Boro fans DDos-ing the forum because the 502 Bad Gateway errors are back

[trousers]

 

 

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

2 hours ago, Saint NL said:

https://archive.ph/Chmcp

 

There it is. I won't paste the whole article in here because it's really long.

Thanks.

Wow, multiple different accounts.

WTF is going on?!

Even Saintsweb is coming under DDOS attacks as the bad gateways are back. Is that Boros counter espionage?

[Willo of Whiteley]

7 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Boro fans DDos-ing the forum because the 502 Bad Gateway errors are back

The northern lot on Twitter are absolute rattled by a rumour.

Can you imagine if they actually had to fathom the possibility of any other conspiracy?!

[Jimmy_D]

1 hour ago, benjii said:

So standing in a field outside the training ground that overlooks the training ground, with a mobile phone.

Can that really be sanctioned?

If it has actually happened as described, and if it did get as far as lawyers, I’d imagine that free public access implicitly counting as permission would be one possible line of defence, or at least mitigation.

[Lard]

Anyone else think this  ‘spygate’ saga is going be detrimental to the semi final for us?

I do. 
either way,proven or otherwise, it’s distracted from the game itself. 
Boro now have something to rally behind even more. 
we on the other hand appear on the back foot having to refute the allegations. 
if we have been underhand,we are deserving of any punishment dished out by the EFL. 
I will fucking hate the club for this. 
it’s unforgivable,and will tarnish the amazing achievements from Ekhart,as they will forever be seen as cheating. 

[SaintN14]

Let’s be honest: the EFL isn’t about to do anything that puts the playoffs at risk by kicking us out. Im surprised Blackmore/Alfie haven’t put that to bed. The playoffs are the EFL’s absolute cash cow—think of the TV money, the gate receipts, and all that "richest game in football" hype they love to milk and they’re extending to 6 teams next year for that reason.

If we are found to have overstepped the mark with the filming, a chunky fine or a points deduction for the start of next season is far more likely.

[kraftwerk26]

2 minutes ago, Lard said:

Anyone else think this  ‘spygate’ saga is going be detrimental to the semi final for us?

I do. 
either way,proven or otherwise, it’s distracted from the game itself. 
Boro now have something to rally behind even more. 
we on the other hand appear on the back foot having to refute the allegations. 
if we have been underhand,we are deserving of any punishment dished out by the EFL. 
I will fucking hate the club for this. 
it’s unforgivable,and will tarnish the amazing achievements from Ekhart,as they will forever be seen as cheating. 

Absolutely spot on

[Harry_SFC]

6 minutes ago, SaintN14 said:

 

Let’s be honest: the EFL isn’t about to do anything that puts the playoffs at risk by kicking us out. Im surprised Blackmore/Alfie haven’t put that to bed. The playoffs are the EFL’s absolute cash cow—think of the TV money, the gate receipts, and all that "richest game in football" hype they love to milk and they’re extending to 6 teams next year for that reason.

If we are found to have overstepped the mark with the filming, a chunky fine or a points deduction for the start of next season is far more likely.

I don't think we could get a points deduction if we got promoted as the PL is a totally different entity. Obviously a different matter if we didn't. 

[Andy Hill]

This will only go one way now. What a mess up.

[LGTL]

5 minutes ago, Andy Hill said:

This will only go one way now. What a mess up.

Why will it? So a few of their mutants are riled up now. It’s hardly going to be Galatasaray. 

I’m probably more confident of winning now than ever. 

[macca155]

20 minutes ago, SaintN14 said:

 

Let’s be honest: the EFL isn’t about to do anything that puts the playoffs at risk by kicking us out. Im surprised Blackmore/Alfie haven’t put that to bed. The playoffs are the EFL’s absolute cash cow—think of the TV money, the gate receipts, and all that "richest game in football" hype they love to milk and they’re extending to 6 teams next year for that reason.

If we are found to have overstepped the mark with the filming, a chunky fine or a points deduction for the start of next season is far more likely.

If they chuck out Saints, it let's in Wrexham ...... whose players are on holiday right now. If they give Boro a bye they'll be a meltdown from the other two teams. They won't want that mess.

Could be a whopping fine though

Edited yesterday at 20:53 by macca155

[stevematthews635]

Meanwhile, man city and Chelsea flout major financial and ethical boundaries and nothing happens to them.

[SNSUN]

18 minutes ago, Lard said:

Anyone else think this  ‘spygate’ saga is going be detrimental to the semi final for us?

 

No beneficial. The EFL will now want us to become a Premier League club to get rid of us and be able to wash their hands of the whole sordid affair, and so will bribe all the refs we face to make it as easy for us to win as possible. 

Then, hopefully in a year's time when relegation is confirmed, everyone will have forgotten about it. 

[Football Special]

From a fairly reliable source it sounds like there is some truth to all this. Bit of a shambles from the club, got to crack on with it, hardly like we've gained an advantage,  do our talking on the pitch 

[Disco Stu]

8 minutes ago, Andy Hill said:

This will only go one way now. What a mess up.

I'm confident the players have more backbone than you do.

[Osvaldorama]

12 minutes ago, Andy Hill said:

This will only go one way now. What a mess up.

😂 don’t be such a melt. Sound like a boro fan 

[Saint NL]

Other game ended 0-0.

Millwall look the better team, but neither are anything to be scared of based on that game

[Willo of Whiteley]

Let me pose some questions to all the ones throwing their toys out the pram and saying it’s over:

Do you think the players give a toss?

Do you think this is going to make Taylor Harwood-Bellis misplace a pass?

Do you think this is going to make Cyle Larin miss an open goal?

Do you think in any way, shape or form the players are going to be affected by tabloid gossip given they put up with this waffle every day of their lives?

Do you have any idea the kind of bubble players are protected in nowadays?

[Pilchards]

Our spy probably just wants to know if Hayden has been in full training these last few weeks.

It’s a mystery to some Boro fans as they think he’s lining up for some mega deal to join a premiership team and might have one more game left in him.

Have you noticed we have not featured Stephen’s and Matsuki in any videos this week? Both fit said Eckert.

I would love both back as Stephen’s offers us a tighter defence while Matsuki works better with Bree than Fellows does.

 

[EssEffCee]

EFL charge came in quick!

Clearly some compelling evidence. Never seemed likely it was completely made up.

Edited yesterday at 21:04 by EssEffCee

[bolo]

Then release the compelling evidence....

[SNSUN]

Southampton charged by the EFLpublished at 22:02 BST

22:02 BSTBreaking

FT: Hull CIty 0-0 Millwall

Southampton have been charged by the EFL over allegations of spying on Middlesbrough's training sessions ahead of the first leg of their Championship play-off semi-final tomorrow.

The EFL have released this statement:

Southampton Football Club has today been charged with a breach of EFL Regulations, and the matter will be referred to an Independent Disciplinary Commission.

This follows a request from the EFL for the Club’s observations after a complaint from Middlesbrough relating to alleged unauthorised filming on private property ahead of the two Clubs meeting in Saturday’s Sky Bet Championship Play-Off Semi-Final First Leg.

The charges relate to the following Regulations:

1. EFL Regulation 3.4, which requires Clubs to act towards each other with the utmost good faith; and

1. EFL Regulation 127, which prohibits any Club from observing, or attempting to observe, another Club’s training session within 72 hours of a scheduled match between the two Clubs.

 

Under EFL Regulations, Southampton would ordinarily have 14 days to respond to the charges. However, given the nature of the matter, the EFL will ask the Independent Disciplinary Commission to shorten the response period and to list a hearing at the earliest opportunity.

The League will make no further comment whilst proceedings are ongoing.

[Saint Fan CaM]

As always with stuff like this, if found guilty the EFL will need to be seen to punish Saints. Not great to be honest if true.

As for the Hull vs Millwall match - a complete bore fest. Nothing to fear if we beat Boro.

[Maggie May]

34 minutes ago, SaintN14 said:

 

Let’s be honest: the EFL isn’t about to do anything that puts the playoffs at risk by kicking us out. Im surprised Blackmore/Alfie haven’t put that to bed. The playoffs are the EFL’s absolute cash cow—think of the TV money, the gate receipts, and all that "richest game in football" hype they love to milk and they’re extending to 6 teams next year for that reason.

If we are found to have overstepped the mark with the filming, a chunky fine or a points deduction for the start of next season is far more likely.

This. We’ve absolutely f***ed it.

[Soton7]

Embarrassing from us. We’re playing Middlesbrough not PSG ffs. 

[Lard]

Yep. We have been charged by the EFL 

so some truth in the matter it seems. 
fucking disgraceful by Southampton FC. 
foolish shit. 
Casts a shadow over the season. 

[SNSUN]

Sounds like they want a quick resolution.

Whether that's a "we don't want to drag this out over the play-offs so we want to fine Southampton as quick as possible" resolution 

or a 

"We want this resolved quickly so we can decide to eliminate Southampton from the competition" resolution

remains to be seen.

 

Personally I can't see us being eliminated - we're plenty Saintsy enough to do that by ourselves. 

[die Mannyschaft]

5 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

EFL charge came in quick!

Southampton charged by the EFLpublished at 22:02 BST

22:02 BSTBreaking

FT: Hull CIty 0-0 Millwall

Southampton have been charged by the EFL over allegations of spying on Middlesbrough's training sessions ahead of the first leg of their Championship play-off semi-final tomorrow.

The EFL have released this statement:

Southampton Football Club has today been charged with a breach of EFL Regulations, and the matter will be referred to an Independent Disciplinary Commission.

This follows a request from the EFL for the Club’s observations after a complaint from Middlesbrough relating to alleged unauthorised filming on private property ahead of the two Clubs meeting in Saturday’s Sky Bet Championship Play-Off Semi-Final First Leg.

The charges relate to the following Regulations:

1. EFL Regulation 3.4, which requires Clubs to act towards each other with the utmost good faith; and

1. EFL Regulation 127, which prohibits any Club from observing, or attempting to observe, another Club’s training session within 72 hours of a scheduled match between the two Clubs.

 

Under EFL Regulations, Southampton would ordinarily have 14 days to respond to the charges. However, given the nature of the matter, the EFL will ask the Independent Disciplinary Commission to shorten the response period and to list a hearing at the earliest opportunity.

The League will make no further comment whilst proceedings are ongoing.

[hypochondriac]

They won't be able to do anything about the playoffs either way as we have a right to appeal. Still shit though and a distraction we don't need.

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

12 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Other game ended 0-0.

Millwall look the better team, but neither are anything to be scared of based on that game

I reserve judgement on that until we've watched what they get up to in training.

[saintant]

2 hours ago, Saint NL said:

https://archive.ph/Chmcp

 

There it is. I won't paste the whole article in here because it's really long.

There are two glaring inaccuracies in this report. Firstly original claims say the spy went into a hotel to change whereas this states he went into the golf clubhouse.

The second says that a whistle blower has claimed this is not the first time Southampton FC have spied on other teams. Several fans on Boro's own forum dispute this and claim the guy making the claims is a well known fruit cake.

There are so many contradictions surrounding this whole episode that it cannot be taken seriously.

[Dr Who?]

2 hours ago, woksaintly said:

But why does the club not issue a statement refuting these allegations if they are not true?

They have got something more important on their minds!

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, SNSUN said:

Sounds like they want a quick resolution.

Whether that's a "we don't want to drag this out over the play-offs so we want to fine Southampton as quick as possible" resolution 

or a 

"We want this resolved quickly so we can decide to eliminate Southampton from the competition" resolution

remains to be seen.

 

Personally I can't see us being eliminated - we're plenty Saintsy enough to do that by ourselves. 

It's an independent disciplinary. Not sure how they could legitimately kick us out because we'd be able to appeal and no chance they'd be able to do all that before Tuesday.

[Harry_SFC]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

They won't be able to do anything about the playoffs either way as we have a right to appeal. Still shit though and a distraction we don't need.

Agreed. As much as Middlesbrough/EFL will want this dealt with, we've got to drag it out. 

[ChrisPY]

With Hull, Middlesbrough AND Millwall in the play offs… are we the bad guys?

[SfcPhil]

Why oh why Saints.. just why. Makes you wonder, is this why we're on an 19 game unbeaten run? 😂 

Jokes aside, shocking decision from the club. We need to get promoted even more so now, as we'll have a hefty fine and a points deduction next season if not you'd imagine.

[SouSaint]

Whoever authorised this deserves the sack. 

[SNSUN]

2 minutes ago, ChrisPY said:

With Hull, Middlesbrough AND Millwall in the play offs… are we the bad guys?

[VectisSaint]

3 minutes ago, saintant said:

There are two glaring inaccuracies in this report. Firstly original claims say the spy went into a hotel to change whereas this states he went into the golf clubhouse.

The second says that a whistle blower has claimed this is not the first time Southampton FC have spied on other teams. Several fans on Boro's own forum dispute this and claim the guy making the claims is a well known fruit cake.

There are so many contradictions surrounding this whole episode that it cannot be taken seriously.

It's a hotel and golf 'complex'.

[RedArmy]

Who gives a fuck. 
 

Straight into them tomorrow. 

[hypochondriac]

It will be a big fine I reckon. A million quid or something or a couple of points deducted next year if we are still in the championship.

[SambaMaverick]

We'll be very vulnerable to legal action if we go up, even if the EFL do give us a slap on the wrist