The Spygate Saga

[Turkish]

6 hours ago, JSpeake said:

Look closer and make of it what you WILL

And you call me up again just to break me like a promise
So casually cruel in the name of being honest

Has Will Salt been dragged back into it, and more allegations made ?

 

Maybe there were certain promises made in exchange for being honest but these are now causally cruel with the outcome 

maybe Tonda and Saints was a masterpiece untIl They tore it up

not saying this is FACT by maybe someone now feels like a crumpled up piece of paper 

Edited 23 hours ago by Turkish

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

I just hope my sources haven’t seen my posts as they might cut me off and that would ruin it for you all

What happened to loose lips sink ships? 

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, Football Special said:

What happened to loose lips sink ships? 

If you were the slightest bit ITK you would understand that I’d rather be in a group of 10  and have some facts than a group of 100 and talk about them 

[Willo of Whiteley]

2 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

I suspect we'd sack him for gross misconduct if he received a massive ban and we wouldn't need to pay him off

Can’t see that holding up given the club publicly backed him 😅

[Fabrice29]

On 01/08/2026 at 18:38, MB said:

My understanding is the club are aware of said punishment but are considering options for appeal. Its not as harsh though as people fear. All I really know. 

 

 

1 hour ago, MB said:

Appeal lodged 

That’s a long appeal window

[MB]

Expect news early next week when players are due back. Club to provide briefing.

Talks held with RE

[HKsaint]

25 minutes ago, MB said:

Expect news early next week when players are due back. Club to provide briefing.

Talks held with RE

Appeal allowed?

[CB Fry]

3 hours ago, MB said:

Expect news early next week when players are due back. Club to provide briefing.

Talks held with RE

If you keep saying "something will happen next week" every single week then eventually you will get your moment of "look I told you so".

Unfortunately for you most of us aren't as thick as you seem to think we are.

Rob Edwards has been reported in the Telegraph for some time as well.

Honestly it is fucking pathetic.

[Lighthouse]

I think if someone flipped a coin, MB’s sources would confirm it was either going to be heads or tails, then when it actually landed it’d be the ace of spades.

[Weston Super Saint]

8 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

I suspect we'd sack him for gross misconduct if he received a massive ban and we wouldn't need to pay him off

'Sack' someone for gross misconduct six months after it happened?  Were the club not aware it was gross misconduct in May?  I think even the dumbest solicitor would have a field day if that were to happen.

[Weston Super Saint]

3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I think if someone flipped a coin, MB’s sources would confirm it was either going to be heads or tails, then when it actually landed it’d be the ace of spades.

If it was MB's coin it would never land, just disappear into thin air.

[LiberalCommunist]

I think the constant ridiculing of MB has gone far enough. Perhaps just ignore his posts if you don't think they are legitimate. 

[Midfield_General]

10 hours ago, cambsaint said:

I have completely lost confidence in the FA and consider that they must now completely review their entire disciplinary process , a belief greatly enhanced by the Man City fiasco, which I now hope they lose.

Man City’s case is between them and the Premier League. The FA have nothing to do with that, they’re a completely separate body with a different remit. 

[Fabrice29]

11 minutes ago, LiberalCommunist said:

I think the constant ridiculing of MB has gone far enough. Perhaps just ignore his posts if you don't think they are legitimate. 

Bore off 😂

[trousers]

2 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

I think if someone flipped a coin, MB’s sources would confirm it was either going to be heads or tails, then when it actually landed it’d be the ace of spades.

Would that be a Scottish coin...?

[Sunnyside Saint]

1 hour ago, Midfield_General said:

Man City’s case is between them and the Premier League. The FA have nothing to do with that, they’re a completely separate body with a different remit. 

 City could, and probably should, be subsequently charged by the FA under the same rule Tonda is charged under, bringing the game into disrepute.

[trousers]

Just now, Sunnyside Saint said:

 City could, and probably should, be subsequently charged by the FA under the same rule Tonda is charged under, bringing the game into disrepute.

 

[sadoldgit]

3 minutes ago, Sunnyside Saint said:

 City could, and probably should, be subsequently charged by the FA under the same rule Tonda is charged under, bringing the game into disrepute.

I think I read somewhere that the FA said that they would be taking a look. Nothing to look at properly until the appeal process has concluded, which could take years of course.

[Sheaf Saint]

4 minutes ago, Sunnyside Saint said:

 City could, and probably should, be subsequently charged by the FA under the same rule Tonda is charged under, bringing the game into disrepute.

I don't think they can charge an entire club with that, just individuals.

I could be wrong though.

[Midfield_General]

18 minutes ago, Sunnyside Saint said:

 City could, and probably should, be subsequently charged by the FA under the same rule Tonda is charged under, bringing the game into disrepute.

The FA aren’t involved in the Man City case at the moment though. So saying ‘I hope they lose’ doesn’t make sense. 

\MLG 

[gio1saints]

1 hour ago, LiberalCommunist said:

I think the constant ridiculing of MB has gone far enough. Perhaps just ignore his posts if you don't think they are legitimate. 

I totally agree. It’s simply nastiness.
 

As a general rule most users understand that the veracity - or otherwise - of anything posted on this forum has always ( and probably will always) be conditional. Opinions are personal. Respect them or don’t respect them but attacking the individual for daring to express them? I think that’s not Saintly. 
 

It’s also commonly accepted that announcements on the OFFICIAL SFC SITE  is the ultimate truth test.  Until then all SFC related posts here on this chat forum are opinions suppositions and, quite often thankfully, light hearted entertainment. Even the posts abusing other posters can be regarded by some as, apparently, “ entertainment “ - unless you are the one being abused that is. It’s distasteful entertainment but there’s always an audience for it. 
 

So- MB do write whatever you like. My view on the veracity is secondary frankly. You are a content creator here. 

[Thereisonlyonemickychannon]

Repeat......

Outcome will be revealed on Wednesday onwards. It was stated right at the beginning that it will be announced sometime after the International break.

And as for Rob Edwards taking over our young manager....FUCK THAT.

 

[hypochondriac]

2 hours ago, LiberalCommunist said:

I think the constant ridiculing of MB has gone far enough. Perhaps just ignore his posts if you don't think they are legitimate. 

By ridiculing do you mean bringing up his previous posts and holding him to account for what he has said?

[sfc4prem]

11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

By ridiculing do you mean bringing up his previous posts and holding him to account for what he has said?

We don't do that here

[bpsaint]

8 hours ago, MB said:

Expect news early next week when players are due back. Club to provide briefing.

Talks held with RE

 

[Harry_SFC]

1 hour ago, gio1saints said:

I totally agree. It’s simply nastiness.
 

As a general rule most users understand that the veracity - or otherwise - of anything posted on this forum has always ( and probably will always) be conditional. Opinions are personal. Respect them or don’t respect them but attacking the individual for daring to express them? I think that’s not Saintly. 
 

It’s also commonly accepted that announcements on the OFFICIAL SFC SITE  is the ultimate truth test.  Until then all SFC related posts here on this chat forum are opinions suppositions and, quite often thankfully, light hearted entertainment. Even the posts abusing other posters can be regarded by some as, apparently, “ entertainment “ - unless you are the one being abused that is. It’s distasteful entertainment but there’s always an audience for it. 
 

So- MB do write whatever you like. My view on the veracity is secondary frankly. You are a content creator here. 

He is not posting an opinion though. He's pretending to be ITK when clearly he knows fuck all. 

[hypochondriac]

Just to be clear. If -as expected -Tonda is banned next week and we appoint Rob Edwards then that in no way makes MB itk.

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Just to be clear. If -as expected -Tonda is banned next week and we appoint Rob Edwards then that in no way makes MB itk.

Why?

[CB Fry]

40 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

 

NONCE

[CB Fry]

2 hours ago, gio1saints said:

I totally agree. It’s simply nastiness.
 

As a general rule most users understand that the veracity - or otherwise - of anything posted on this forum has always ( and probably will always) be conditional. Opinions are personal. Respect them or don’t respect them but attacking the individual for daring to express them? I think that’s not Saintly. 
 

It’s also commonly accepted that announcements on the OFFICIAL SFC SITE  is the ultimate truth test.  Until then all SFC related posts here on this chat forum are opinions suppositions and, quite often thankfully, light hearted entertainment. Even the posts abusing other posters can be regarded by some as, apparently, “ entertainment “ - unless you are the one being abused that is. It’s distasteful entertainment but there’s always an audience for it. 
 

So- MB do write whatever you like. My view on the veracity is secondary frankly. You are a content creator here. 

Why are you deciding who gets to "write whatever they like"?

We all can. And personally I am not stopping anyone writing anything. Crack on, chaps.

But if some are utterly full of shit and pretending to be informed by "predicting" obvious (and widely reported) things to happen at obvious times then the rest of us can call that out.

Edited 10 hours ago by CB Fry

[Sheaf Saint]

30 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Why are you deciding who gets to "write whatever they like"?

We all can. And personally I am not stopping anyone writing anything. Crack on, chaps.

But if some are utterly full of shit and pretending to be informed by "predicting" obvious (and widely reported) things to happen at obvious times then the rest of us can call that out.

But what makes you so certain MB isn't passing on what he's been told in good faith? 

Just because the info correlates with what has already been rumoured doesn't prove he's just making it up, so why do you have to be such a cunt to him about it? Why can't you just ignore him if you don't believe it's legit?

It's no wonder many of the previous ITK posters don't bother anymore if they're just gonna get abused for it.

[Fabrice29]

17 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

But what makes you so certain MB isn't passing on what he's been told in good faith? 

Just because the info correlates with what has already been rumoured doesn't prove he's just making it up, so why do you have to be such a cunt to him about it? Why can't you just ignore him if you don't believe it's legit?

It's no wonder many of the previous ITK posters don't bother anymore if they're just gonna get abused for it.

Because he’s consistently wrong and therefore if he’s genuinely being passed on info it’s not in good faith, it’s on a windup. 

[The Kraken]

All the good old posters don’t post here any more, and you can see why.

[Nordic Saint]

5 hours ago, Midfield_General said:

Man City’s case is between them and the Premier League. The FA have nothing to do with that, they’re a completely separate body with a different remit. 

The same could be said of the FA's relationship with the EFL. The EFL have already dealt with a disciplinary case regarding an obscure rule which only applies in the EFL. 

Tonda is being charged with an FA rule for bringing the game into disrepute, which was exactly the same for Bielsa. That is the only relevant legal precedent for the FA. Bielsa received no punishment and was even given the FIFA Fair Play Award at the end of that season

The breach of that EFL rule, which doesn't apply to any other leagues, the FA Cup or international games under the jurisdiction of the FA, has already been dealt with by the EFL.

If, for example, another league in this country decided to introduce a 1-week rule instead of a 72-hour one and someone in that league broke the rule, I think it would be very unlikely that the FA would give their manager a long ban from the game, because it would just be an internal matter for that league.

As for moral considerations, many would argue that everything in sport should be done openly and honestly and that nothing should be done secretively. FIFA took this view in the World Cup finals and made a rule that final training sessions had to be open to the public. Any team holding their final training session in secret would have been punished. For that reason England had to change their flight plans to Mexico. So, you could argue that Middlesbrough were trying to hide something, which is not being open and honest. FIFA would take that view.

Edited 8 hours ago by Nordic Saint

[hypochondriac]

45 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

But what makes you so certain MB isn't passing on what he's been told in good faith? 

Just because the info correlates with what has already been rumoured doesn't prove he's just making it up, so why do you have to be such a cunt to him about it? Why can't you just ignore him if you don't believe it's legit?

It's no wonder many of the previous ITK posters don't bother anymore if they're just gonna get abused for it.

Because he had a track record of bring consistently wrong and posts a lot of vague predictions without specific thst could prove he knows something 

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

Why are you deciding who gets to "write whatever they like"?

We all can. And personally I am not stopping anyone writing anything. Crack on, chaps.

But if some are utterly full of shit and pretending to be informed by "predicting" obvious (and widely reported) things to happen at obvious times then the rest of us can call that out.

Not to mention he said it wasn't as bad as we thought and we were appealing, when that was wrong he said it was a long ban and we would hear on the Friday or next week (wrong) and has now moved goalposts to next week. It's hardly indicative of someone who has a clue.

[CB Fry]

46 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

But what makes you so certain MB isn't passing on what he's been told in good faith? 

Just because the info correlates with what has already been rumoured doesn't prove he's just making it up, so why do you have to be such a cunt to him about it? Why can't you just ignore him if you don't believe it's legit?

It's no wonder many of the previous ITK posters don't bother anymore if they're just gonna get abused for it.

Forum gold.

The "why dont you just ignore it" routine. Well, I'm not forcing you to reply to me sunshine. Feel free to take your own advice.

The pearl clutching at "abuse" in the same post as calling me a cunt. Classy, do tell us more about how terrible abuse is.

If you think "Tonda is going to get banned" is "good faith inside information" then god help us all. I could have told you he's getting banned the day after the play off decision. But knock yourself out on the hero worship.

Lastly, we have had some great ITKs in the past - Guan and K Billy and others. They were brilliant and funnily enough not needy bullshitters. They were fantastic contributors to the forum.

Others, not so much.

[The Wyvern]

Fantastic work from MB on here, imagine he’s got exactly what he was after. 

[bpsaint]

25 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Forum gold.

The "why dont you just ignore it" routine. Well, I'm not forcing you to reply to me sunshine. Feel free to take your own advice.

The pearl clutching at "abuse" in the same post as calling me a cunt. Classy, do tell us more about how terrible abuse is.

If you think "Tonda is going to get banned" is "good faith inside information" then god help us all. I could have told you he's getting banned the day after the play off decision. But knock yourself out on the hero worship.

Lastly, we have had some great ITKs in the past - Guan and K Billy and others. They were brilliant and funnily enough not needy bullshitters. They were fantastic contributors to the forum.

Others, not so much.

Remember THEVMAN, who may or may not have been Adam Lallana. Are there any genuine ITKers left?

[Gloucester Saint]

10 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Remember THEVMAN, who may or may not have been Adam Lallana. Are there any genuine ITKers left?

@LeG

[Yorkshire Saint]

33 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

@LeG

@View From The Top & @Guan 2.0 ?

[Yorkshire Saint]

45 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Remember THEVMAN, who may or may not have been Adam Lallana. Are there any genuine ITKers left?

What a Twat. 

[Pamplemousse]

Speaking of Twats, Middlesbrough have given another interview about us in the Athletic 

 

[hypochondriac]

23 minutes ago, Yorkshire Saint said:

@View From The Top & @Guan 2.0 ?

@HelpMeRhonda? @Lifelongsaint83? @saintdavid?

[Toussaint]

3 hours ago, Harry_SFC said:

He is not posting an opinion though. He's pretending to be ITK when clearly he knows fuck all. 

The bottom line though Harry, is it’s completely harmless. Just don’t engage. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Toussaint

[egg]

Just now, Toussaint said:

Bottom line though Harry, it’s completely harmless. 

And that is the bottom line. The constant posts from people getting wound up about it are tragic and funny in equal measure. 

[Toussaint]

2 hours ago, The Kraken said:

All the good old posters don’t post here any more, and you can see why.

I still post, but I can’t repeat what I know, which is everything, as Dragan said… 

“listen to me you fat fuck, you repeat what I tell you, you know what happens, you go in deep freeze, then wood chipper, then I feed you to pigs” 

So I hope and trust that you understand and forgive my reticence?

 

 

[Turkish]

@franniesTache get some good info at times. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

8 hours ago, LiberalCommunist said:

I think the constant ridiculing of MB has gone far enough. Perhaps just ignore his posts if you don't think they are legitimate. 

I disagree, I think it should carry on 😂

[Willo of Whiteley]

1 hour ago, Pamplemousse said:

Speaking of Twats, Middlesbrough have given another interview about us in the Athletic 

 

They really are desperate for some attention aren’t they