Pilchards Posted August 11 Posted August 11 THB is always the one that makes those crosses. Wood and Stephen’s are like putting a shirt in the box. MASSIVE LOSS IF HE GOES. 3
revolution saint Posted August 11 Posted August 11 What do we reckon on the Charles replacement then? Spors will have been well aware he was likely off for ages and the type of fee we’d get so he’s had plenty of time to eye up some targets. Another young with potential? Older experienced pro? Defensive Mid or more progressive? Personally I think Bragg and Downes can cover defensive positions between them so I’d like someone a bit more forward thinking. There’s not been a massive amount of links and off the top of my head there was Dan Neil, a lad from Palace and Josh Mulligan.
hypochondriac Posted August 11 Posted August 11 3 minutes ago, revolution saint said: What do we reckon on the Charles replacement then? Spors will have been well aware he was likely off for ages and the type of fee we’d get so he’s had plenty of time to eye up some targets. Another young with potential? Older experienced pro? Defensive Mid or more progressive? Personally I think Bragg and Downes can cover defensive positions between them so I’d like someone a bit more forward thinking. There’s not been a massive amount of links and off the top of my head there was Dan Neil, a lad from Palace and Josh Mulligan. Dan Neil was quite a defensive signing I thought. I agree with you, we need more of a goal threat. 2
revolution saint Posted August 11 Posted August 11 Just now, hypochondriac said: Dan Neil was quite a defensive signing I thought. I agree with you, we need more of a goal threat. Yeah I’m kind of hoping we can’t read too much into nearly getting Dan Neil in. Would have been cheap experience but I wonder whether we’ve decided to not go relatively big money on a striker and will instead spend it on midfield instead.
egg Posted August 11 Posted August 11 7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Dan Neil was quite a defensive signing I thought. I agree with you, we need more of a goal threat. I'm assuming Matsuki gets that gig, or Azaz drops deeper with Matsuki or Dobbin ahead.
hypochondriac Posted August 11 Posted August 11 55 minutes ago, egg said: I'm assuming Matsuki gets that gig, or Azaz drops deeper with Matsuki or Dobbin ahead. Azaz and Dobbin playing together could be interesting. I think we will replace Charles though.
Baird of the land Posted August 11 Posted August 11 1 hour ago, revolution saint said: What do we reckon on the Charles replacement then? Spors will have been well aware he was likely off for ages and the type of fee we’d get so he’s had plenty of time to eye up some targets. Another young with potential? Older experienced pro? Defensive Mid or more progressive? Personally I think Bragg and Downes can cover defensive positions between them so I’d like someone a bit more forward thinking. There’s not been a massive amount of links and off the top of my head there was Dan Neil, a lad from Palace and Josh Mulligan. Got to be a progressive player. jander/bragg/downes can all play the defensive role
Saint NL Posted August 11 Posted August 11 Kalvin Phillips going on loan to Sheffield United. He still has two years left on his Man City contract Could Tonda get a tune out of him? Or is he completely finished these days 1
Midfield_General Posted August 11 Posted August 11 A Stu Armstrong type who can carry the ball and get us up the pitch would be nice 7
Patrick Bateman Posted August 11 Posted August 11 9 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Got to be a progressive player. jander/bragg/downes can all play the defensive role What happened to Barnaby Williams? He looked decent, well, like he had potential?
Toadhall Saint Posted August 11 Posted August 11 15 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Azaz and Dobbin playing together could be interesting. I think we will replace Charles though. I’m not sure we will to be honest. Might be wrong but we are not hearing too much on time Charles replacement.
hypochondriac Posted August 11 Posted August 11 2 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: I’m not sure we will to be honest. Might be wrong but we are not hearing too much on time Charles replacement. He was only sold today! Maybe the replacement will be a Prem loan. 1
Badger Posted August 11 Posted August 11 3 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: Jordan James please Johan/Dragan🙏 What exactly would he bring? I don’t know much about him but he seems to be talked about a fair bit in the last couple of days. Strange how it goes, a few weeks ago Josh Mulligan seemed to be the ‘must have’ linked with several clubs. But still at Hibs.
Badger Posted August 11 Posted August 11 3 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: I’m not sure we will to be honest. Might be wrong but we are not hearing too much on time Charles replacement. How many weeks to the window ‘slams shut’?
MarkSFC Posted August 11 Posted August 11 1 minute ago, Badger said: What exactly would he bring? I don’t know much about him but he seems to be talked about a fair bit in the last couple of days. Strange how it goes, a few weeks ago Josh Mulligan seemed to be the ‘must have’ linked with several clubs. But still at Hibs. Well 11 goals and a few assists in a relegated team last year, and from what I can recall, lots of energy. At 22 could be a great addition. But seemingly in demand.
Badger Posted August 11 Posted August 11 Just now, MarkSFC said: Well 11 goals and a few assists in a relegated team last year, and from what I can recall, lots of energy. At 22 could be a great addition. But seemingly in demand. You’ve convinced me. 1
Badger Posted August 11 Posted August 11 1 minute ago, MarkSFC said: Well 11 goals and a few assists in a relegated team last year, and from what I can recall, lots of energy. At 22 could be a great addition. But seemingly in demand. Trouble is for us though that he’d expect and want to be a guaranteed starter. He might get that at one of the other clubs in for him, but at Saints he’ll arrive with Downes and Jander in front of him. 1
Turkish Posted August 11 Posted August 11 2 hours ago, Football Special said: I think we have generally moved on other than a few chants which are fair enough, Middlesbrough on the other hand are fucking mentally ill thinking they were in any way negatively impacted by us last season and are desperate to carry a victim complex into this season Such an insignificant club. The north east teams don’t care about them so they try to pretend they’re Yorkshire when it suits, the Yorkshire teams don’t care about them as they all more interested in hating Leeds. No one south of Leeds know they exist. They’re a bit like Bournemouth and Reading. No one cares about them enough to hate them, no one likes them and they’ve never been on anyone’s radars so got to enjoy the attention whilst it lasts 3
egg Posted August 11 Posted August 11 42 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Azaz and Dobbin playing together could be interesting. I think we will replace Charles though. I'd hope so, but if we do I think it'll be a free or loan.
SuperSAINT Posted August 11 Posted August 11 34 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: Jordan James please Johan/Dragan🙏 1
Saint Pete Posted August 11 Posted August 11 52 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Azaz and Dobbin playing together could be interesting. I think we will replace Charles though. The Dobbin signing was interesting, Azaz/Dobbin as the 2 options for the attacking midfielder is great, but seems a little bit of a luxury of if one of those 2 will be sat on the bench, so will be interesting to see how they are employed by Tonda when both are fully fit.
hypochondriac Posted August 11 Posted August 11 7 minutes ago, Saint Pete said: The Dobbin signing was interesting, Azaz/Dobbin as the 2 options for the attacking midfielder is great, but seems a little bit of a luxury of if one of those 2 will be sat on the bench, so will be interesting to see how they are employed by Tonda when both are fully fit. Is he? No more than Stewart was last year or Wellington is. Or one of Matsuki or fellows. You need a strong squad.
AlexLaw76 Posted August 11 Posted August 11 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Is he? No more than Stewart was last year or Wellington is. Or one of Matsuki or fellows. You need a strong squad. I am sure we were told Azaz, for many games, was playing through pain and/or with a niggle. He was great, but did go missing at times....
hypochondriac Posted August 11 Posted August 11 I'd mentally prepared myself to lose THB in this window and have been expecting it but replacing him at this stage would be almost impossible and would imo be a terrible blow to our chances of promotion, particularly with the minus points. Unless the fee really is ridiculous (35 million plus) I'd be telling him we just can't afford to lose him at this stage. I know it doesn't always work out like that but the likes of Leeds managed to only lose one big player when they failed to go up first year. 3
Chez Posted August 11 Posted August 11 17 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: I am sure we were told Azaz, for many games, was playing through pain and/or with a niggle. He was great, but did go missing at times.... when he struggled we struggled (or maybe it was vis versa, I don't know). We can't have our entire season resting on the form and fitness of one guy. Signing another creative player made total sense. The same applies to other positions.
Willo of Whiteley Posted August 11 Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said: I’m not sure we will to be honest. Might be wrong but we are not hearing too much on time Charles replacement. He was sold twelve hours ago. Don’t be a fanny. Signings will come in. This isn’t Football Manager or FIFA, ffs.
HarvSFC Posted August 11 Posted August 11 Benfica's record signings: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/benfica-lissabon/transferrekorde/verein/294 You'd like to think that they can't afford THB.
Chez Posted August 11 Posted August 11 9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I know it doesn't always work out like that but the likes of Leeds managed to only lose one big player when they failed to go up first year. did they? I thought the sold Ruttner, Gray and Summerville that summer...and Sinisterre. 1
Chez Posted August 11 Posted August 11 7 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: Benfica's record signings: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/benfica-lissabon/transferrekorde/verein/294 You'd like to think that they can't afford THB. They spent EUR116 last season on transfers, with about EUR100m coming in. So far they have spent about EUR53m with EUR86m coming in.
pimpin4rizeal Posted August 11 Posted August 11 To be honest I really think we are in the driving seat to win the league if we keep the core of last seasons team .. just pray to god we don’t go and fuck up by letting the likes of scienza and Jander go ..how are you guys feeling about these ? always get the feeling with saints that we kinda let the players decide if they wanna leave . But this is a massive season the relegated teams should have more transition then us with both squad and going from a losing to winning mentality.. whilst we should be in the position to hit the ground running as long as we keep the band together 2
SW11_Saint Posted August 11 Posted August 11 55 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: To be honest I really think we are in the driving seat to win the league if we keep the core of last seasons team .. just pray to god we don’t go and fuck up by letting the likes of scienza and Jander go ..how are you guys feeling about these ? always get the feeling with saints that we kinda let the players decide if they wanna leave . But this is a massive season the relegated teams should have more transition then us with both squad and going from a losing to winning mentality.. whilst we should be in the position to hit the ground running as long as we keep the band together We’re gonna smash it… feel it in my bones. 1
BARCELONASAINT Posted August 12 Posted August 12 5 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said: To be honest I really think we are in the driving seat to win the league if we keep the core of last seasons team .. just pray to god we don’t go and fuck up by letting the likes of scienza and Jander go ..how are you guys feeling about these ? always get the feeling with saints that we kinda let the players decide if they wanna leave . But this is a massive season the relegated teams should have more transition then us with both squad and going from a losing to winning mentality.. whilst we should be in the position to hit the ground running as long as we keep the band together I like your optimism and our game against Watford will be interesting to see if we really are READY for the start of the season. Watford are definately a side we should be beating, they are bang average. However my biggest fear is we are not ready for the start of the season. I really don't understand why we have played such bang average teams in pre-season and hardly any games to boot. We looked really rusty in the cup game and could easily have been behind at half time had it not been for Peretz. 1
Toadhall Saint Posted August 12 Posted August 12 9 hours ago, hypochondriac said: He was only sold today! Maybe the replacement will be a Prem loan. Yep (not sure how when he is sold relates to rumours mind esp as the world and his wife knew a few weeks ago he was going) and maybe, maybe not - no rumours on either front.
goodymatt Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) Taylor Harwood-Bellis has admirers at Benfica, but there is currently no offer from the Portuguese club & Southampton would not entertain a sale at the mooted €20m price point. Edited August 12 by goodymatt
hypochondriac Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said: Yep (not sure how when he is sold relates to rumours mind esp as the world and his wife knew a few weeks ago he was going) and maybe, maybe not - no rumours on either front. Right but until it's official we probably won't be able to get anyone else in. Always a small chance he could fail his medical or something else goes wrong somewhere. 1
Fabrice29 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said: Yep (not sure how when he is sold relates to rumours mind esp as the world and his wife knew a few weeks ago he was going) and maybe, maybe not - no rumours on either front. Rumours being people’s measuring stick on how our window is going will never not be funny
hypochondriac Posted August 12 Posted August 12 27 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Rumours being people’s measuring stick on how our window is going will never not be funny What are you talking about? Of course the window will be judged at its conclusion but obviously people are going to comment on rumours. What an odd fellow you are. 2
Fabrice29 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: What are you talking about? Of course the window will be judged at its conclusion but obviously people are going to comment on rumours. What an odd fellow you are. He’s doubting we’ll do anything to replace Charles because he hasn’t heard any rumours. That’s funny. 1
hypochondriac Posted August 12 Posted August 12 2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: He’s doubting we’ll do anything to replace Charles because he hasn’t heard any rumours. That’s funny. You really need to quote the correct people in your replies so it is clear what you mean. 2
trousers Posted August 12 Posted August 12 CB Fry's certainly going to have to up his game if he's going to retain the Saintsweb Smart Arse of the Year trophy... 4
Fabrice29 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 12 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said: I’m not sure we will to be honest. Might be wrong but we are not hearing too much on time Charles replacement. 2 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said: Yep (not sure how when he is sold relates to rumours mind esp as the world and his wife knew a few weeks ago he was going) and maybe, maybe not - no rumours on either front. 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: You really need to quote the correct people in your replies so it is clear what you mean. I did. 1
ally_uk Posted August 12 Posted August 12 20 million for THB? Start the opening bids at £40 million.... 1
Saint Pete Posted August 12 Posted August 12 11 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Is he? No more than Stewart was last year or Wellington is. Or one of Matsuki or fellows. You need a strong squad. Yes, absolutely. Wasn't saying we shouldn't have signed him, we did need more depth in that position and he looks a quality addition so far. The point I was trying to make about Azaz/Dobbin was that they are both high value signings and when both are fully fit, it will be interesting to see if both will be accommodated in the starting 11 and if so how. There is much more potential that both could play than the other 2 examples you give above due to their flexibility and I think Tonda and the club will be keen to use them both as much as possible given the outlay and that they are both quality players who can hurt the opposition.
ally_uk Posted August 12 Posted August 12 Some matey said Swansea have put a 20 million price tag on Viptonik. If we are serious about promotion, that's the calibre of striker we need.
CSA96 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 Just now, ally_uk said: Some matey said Swansea have put a 20 million price tag on Viptonik. If we are serious about promotion, that's the calibre of striker we need. It's not realistic to think we'd have Vipotnik, Larin and Mubama for one position 8
hypochondriac Posted August 12 Posted August 12 2 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Some matey said Swansea have put a 20 million price tag on Viptonik. If we are serious about promotion, that's the calibre of striker we need. We aren't signing another striker mate unless archer, bbd and downs goes. We certainly won't be spending any cash like that either. 1
Toadhall Saint Posted August 12 Posted August 12 43 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: He’s doubting we’ll do anything to replace Charles because he hasn’t heard any rumours. That’s funny. If you think that’s funny you really need to get out more.
MarkSFC Posted August 12 Posted August 12 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: We aren't signing another striker mate unless archer, bbd and downs goes. We certainly won't be spending any cash like that either. Sell those 3 and we might just about get half the Vipotnik fee so maybe...I think theres mor money than we think, its just whether its spent this season or next.
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