washsaint Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago WAC - he simply can not let it go with Spygate. Pontificating from his ivory tower about how this was one of the darkest days in Saints history and even today telling 5 live the episode will haunt Eckert for years and seeming to indicate that he wasn't punished enough. I would think Eckert will have put this behind him the moment the FA told him his punishment. Equally, despite what Blackkmore thinks, this was really a nothing burger but a kangaroo court by the EFL and Gibson made it a far bigger deal than it really was. 16
Gloucester Saint Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Who cares, just beat the St John’s ambulance stealing fish shaggers. 4
SaintNewForest Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Well, hes right ... It was a dark day in our history. It will haunt Tonda. He was lucky with his punishment. 1 2 1
CB Fry Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 55 minutes ago, washsaint said: WAC - he simply can not let it go with Spygate. Pontificating from his ivory tower about how this was one of the darkest days in Saints history and even today telling 5 live the episode will haunt Eckert for years and seeming to indicate that he wasn't punished enough. I would think Eckert will have put this behind him the moment the FA told him his punishment. Equally, despite what Blackkmore thinks, this was really a nothing burger but a kangaroo court by the EFL and Gibson made it a far bigger deal than it really was. It was a dark day in our history. It will haunt Tonda for years. In 50 years time it will very likely be on the first paragraph of his obituary. I don't want our journalists to cover up that stuff. They're not fans and they don't need to be. How about you stop whining on about Steve Gibson and kangaroo courts because jesus christ no one gives a fuck now. 4 1
Saint_clark Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago It's unlikely to haunt Tonda. Does everyone splutter over their words to mention spying whenever Bielsas name comes up? Nope. 5
Disco Stu Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago None of that especially bothers me but on the topic of Adam Blackmore, the standard of commentary on Solent has really struggled since he lost the support of the excellent Dave Merrington. When I watch games with Blackmore's commentary, I realise just how much of what he's saying isn't actually what's happening on the pitch. Also, Alfie House has really shown up Adam Blackmore as a journalist. 7 1
CB Fry Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: It's unlikely to haunt Tonda. Does everyone splutter over their words to mention spying whenever Bielsas name comes up? Nope. Possibly related to the thirty year management career he had before he even got to Leeds but yeah great point genius.
Saint_clark Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: It will haunt Tonda for years. In 50 years time it will very likely be on the first paragraph of his obituary. 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: Possibly related to the thirty year management career he had before he even got to Leeds but yeah great point genius. So at the end of one person's career it will be the first paragraph of their obituary, but at the end of the other person's career it will be forgotten? Even on a day like today you can't help but be a contrarian, argumentative, sanctimonious cunt can you. 6 1
Farmer Saint Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago I see we still have a lot of pussies on this forum! Dark day in our history 😂 It was a bit shit but fucking hell, who died? Acting like it's Heysel. 6
Cuddles Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago What was it Clattenburg said? "You've changed, Adam" Marriage has ruined the poor guy 😭
CB Fry Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Saint_clark said: So at the end of one person's career it will be the first paragraph of their obituary, but at the end of the other person's career it will be forgotten? Even on a day like today you can't help but be a contrarian, argumentative, sanctimonious cunt can you. Well, yeah, because everything he does from here will be a response to him causing us to be kicked out of the richest football match in the world. The thing that led us to being on the national bloody news. If we get promoted in May do you reckon it might just get a mention? I'm going to wager it will. If he leads Germany to winning the world cup in 20 years it will be the still be the starting point of any profile of him. Bielsa didn't get Leeds kicked out of anything, and until we started going on about it it was only Derby fans that ever cared. No one gives a fuck apart from people on this forum. Do you see how different things can be different? Edited 13 hours ago by CB Fry 2
Zorba Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago My darkest days were us being stuffed 9-0. I couldn’t give a toss that our manager sent someone to watch another club train to give us the upper hand. It shows how much he wants to win and we’ve been a better side since Eckert’s been in charge. I’ve already forgotten about it! We’ve had some right shit in charge since Hassenhuttl, now it’s time to enjoy watching a side and a manager that are right up for it and winning games. COYS! FOP! 9
Fabrice29 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 9 hours ago, Disco Stu said: None of that especially bothers me but on the topic of Adam Blackmore, the standard of commentary on Solent has really struggled since he lost the support of the excellent Dave Merrington. When I watch games with Blackmore's commentary, I realise just how much of what he's saying isn't actually what's happening on the pitch. Also, Alfie House has really shown up Adam Blackmore as a journalist. This is what I came on here to say. Really does get shown up by the actual footage 😂 1
Football Special Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said: This is what I came on here to say. Really does get shown up by the actual footage 😂 He waffles so much and is the worst interviewer ive ever heard. Nice to hear a rendition of Adam Blackmore what a wanker what a wanker yesterday
OldNick Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 11 hours ago, CB Fry said: Well, yeah, because everything he does from here will be a response to him causing us to be kicked out of the richest football match in the world. The thing that led us to being on the national bloody news. If we get promoted in May do you reckon it might just get a mention? I'm going to wager it will. If he leads Germany to winning the world cup in 20 years it will be the still be the starting point of any profile of him. Bielsa didn't get Leeds kicked out of anything, and until we started going on about it it was only Derby fans that ever cared. No one gives a fuck apart from people on this forum. Do you see how different things can be different? Well perhaps if Leeds were kicked out as we were then the media may mention it all the time. Leeds got treated lightly and we got treated heavily. It didnt help that the Northern journos got their say and ours couldnt, add to that Gibsons influence was important. Turns out that after the report by the FA it was not such a big thing and the EFL acted quickly and broke their own rules re 14 days, so to keep the Play off final and all the money in place. Edited 2 hours ago by OldNick 1
OldNick Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Football Special said: He waffles so much and is the worst interviewer ive ever heard. Nice to hear a rendition of Adam Blackmore what a wanker what a wanker yesterday I didnt hear that!! Personally I feel hes a brilliant commentator, but I dont like how he is not defending our club on the media, but he's got to give an unbiased position, shame others dont. As for a stain on Saints reputation, I dont give a flying as I'm tired of being the club that rolls over to have its tummy tickled, opposition fans dont really give a jot about us, they just want to come to SMS have a great day 3 points and leave, well now its not like that anymore and long may it be. And our club has many other more shameful things, as do all others, Bob Higgins being the biggest stain of all
explorer saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 15 hours ago, Disco Stu said: None of that especially bothers me but on the topic of Adam Blackmore, the standard of commentary on Solent has really struggled since he lost the support of the excellent Dave Merrington. When I watch games with Blackmore's commentary, I realise just how much of what he's saying isn't actually what's happening on the pitch. Also, Alfie House has really shown up Adam Blackmore as a journalist. When I watch games with him commenting he doesn't seem to actually comment on the game and keep up with play, he's waffling on about something irrelevant most of the time
Farmer Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 hours ago, CB Fry said: Well, yeah, because everything he does from here will be a response to him causing us to be kicked out of the richest football match in the world. The thing that led us to being on the national bloody news. If we get promoted in May do you reckon it might just get a mention? I'm going to wager it will. If he leads Germany to winning the world cup in 20 years it will be the still be the starting point of any profile of him. Bielsa didn't get Leeds kicked out of anything, and until we started going on about it it was only Derby fans that ever cared. No one gives a fuck apart from people on this forum. Do you see how different things can be different? No-one will give a fuck now anyway as the Man City cheating scandal will massively overshadow this going forward. Stop worrying about it, it'll be fine. 2
CB Fry Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 26 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: No-one will give a fuck now anyway as the Man City cheating scandal will massively overshadow this going forward. Stop worrying about it, it'll be fine. I’m not worrying about anything. You’re the weirdo making Heysel references. It’s a thing that is going to define his career whether he likes it or we like it or whether it’s fair or not.
Ted Bates Statue Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 57 minutes ago, explorer saint said: When I watch games with him commenting he doesn't seem to actually comment on the game and keep up with play, he's waffling on about something irrelevant most of the time Moving on from discussing Tonda's obituary...! Think Blackmore's decent enough but I've not really noticed this issue personally and sometimes I manage to listen to the Solent commentary in the ground as well (if it's not that noisy). If anything I think it's worse with other broadcasters. Case in point - the 2024 playoff final's commentary build-up to the goal consisted of nearly a minute of Martinball possession. This was ignored by Talksport, Sky and Solent (Ian Wilding with Dean Hammond) who were unanimously talking about Leeds instead until the defence-splitting pass that put AA through on goal. For me, that is intolerable. I think while he can get things wrong, the energy he brings to the commentary makes up for it and there's a good chance he's actually talking about us instead of getting all excited about how wonderful the opposition are. On Spygate, I think although he and Jo went over the top in the aftermath calling for Eckert's sacking, they should be allowed to express their own views. I get the argument for circling the wagons but think it's worse if a commentator can't express their own opinion, for fear of being shut out by the club that they're covering. I don't need to hear a happy-clappy commentator that just spouts the party line. 16 hours ago, Disco Stu said: None of that especially bothers me but on the topic of Adam Blackmore, the standard of commentary on Solent has really struggled since he lost the support of the excellent Dave Merrington. I am very fond of Dave Merrington and his commentary but I think he had his own faults and came in for a lot of stick when he was working. We all know we don't want to concede a goal! Edited 1 hour ago by Ted Bates Statue 1
CB Fry Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago 1 hour ago, OldNick said: Well perhaps if Leeds were kicked out as we were then the media may mention it all the time. Leeds got treated lightly and we got treated heavily. It didnt help that the Northern journos got their say and ours couldnt, add to that Gibsons influence was important. Turns out that after the report by the FA it was not such a big thing and the EFL acted quickly and broke their own rules re 14 days, so to keep the Play off final and all the money in place. Yeah if things were completely different then it would all be completely different. Great point.
revolution saint Posted 53 minutes ago Posted 53 minutes ago Always feel it's a difficult wire to balance on with local journalists. On the one hand we want them to be supportive of the club and back them, and on the other hand we also want them asking the difficult uncomfortable questions. In terms of Blackmore, for a radio commentator I think he does a decent job of conveying excitement but I've also noticed that during games he quite often gets things wrong.
Farmer Saint Posted 52 minutes ago Posted 52 minutes ago 33 minutes ago, CB Fry said: I’m not worrying about anything. You’re the weirdo making Heysel references. It’s a thing that is going to define his career whether he likes it or we like it or whether it’s fair or not. Every time I wander onto this board you seem to be crying about it though. Goes against your attempts to be the hard man of the forum. We'll have to agree to disagree - I think he's young enough and the infraction moderate enough that people will forget about it though.
Toussaint Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago I really like the bloke. Going home with Adam and Joe is a “must listen” for me. 1
revolution saint Posted 36 minutes ago Posted 36 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: We'll have to agree to disagree - I think he's young enough and the infraction moderate enough that people will forget about it though. Tend to agree but ultimately it'll be dependent on the rest of his career and how well he does. No one really talks about Bielsa and spying because there's so much other stuff about him to talk about and I'd actually forgotten the whole thing with Bielsa spying until this all blew up. It'll be the same with Tonda if he goes on to become a success.
gallaghert366@yahoo.com Posted 28 minutes ago Posted 28 minutes ago 14 hours ago, Cuddles said: Marriage has ruined the poor guy 😭 I know the feeling!
beatlesaint Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago I dont dislike him, as has been stated I think his reluctance to defend the club, or at least try to present their side over Spygate put me off him a bit. I just hope he lets it go now and concentrates on the football.
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