Jason Wilcox

[stevematthews635]

Looks like we dodged a bullet with him.  Spors appears, on the whole, to be a massive upgrade on Wilcox and he and Tonda appear joined at the hip.

Contrast that with how united fans feel about Wilcox.. . 

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, stevematthews635 said:

Looks like we dodged a bullet with him.  Spors appears, on the whole, to be a massive upgrade on Wilcox and he and Tonda appear joined at the hip.

Contrast that with how united fans feel about Wilcox.. . 

All well and good saying this, but we got promoted with him being the main football man, right? 
 

 

[trousers]

4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

All well and good saying this, but we got promoted with him being the main football man, right? 
 

 

Yes, right?

[Lighthouse]

In the eleven years between Fergie’s retirement and Wilcox being appointed they’ve got through Moyes, LVG, Ole, Mourinho, Rangnick, ETH and RVN. Let’s not pretend it all went wrong when JW took over, that club as been rudderless for thirteen years. Egos with instagram followers control the dressing room.

[Saint_clark]

13 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

In the eleven years between Fergie’s retirement and Wilcox being appointed they’ve got through Moyes, LVG, Ole, Mourinho, Rangnick, ETH and RVN. Let’s not pretend it all went wrong when JW took over, that club as been rudderless for thirteen years. Egos with instagram followers control the dressing room.

One of the best things they could do is get rid of Fernandes. The bloke is a poison at the heart of the squad.

[The Kraken]

1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

One of the best things they could do is get rid of Fernandes. The bloke is a poison at the heart of the squad.

The problem is, he is their only player who is genuinely any good. Their lineup today was shocking, just an utter eleven of averageness with a what looks to be a defeated attitude flowing through the players.

[Saint_clark]

3 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

The problem is, he is their only player who is genuinely any good. Their lineup today was shocking, just an utter eleven of averageness with a what looks to be a defeated attitude flowing through the players.

That's exactly what he wants though. He wants to be seen as the only good player in the team. He sprints around to no real effect so he looks like the hardest worker when what he's actually doing is costing the team their shape. What sort of a captain flops around on the floor, throws their arms up in the air at their own teammates and the ref multiple times a game. That defeated attitude in the rest of the team comes from somewhere. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

All well and good saying this, but we got promoted with him being the main football man, right? 
 

 

Yes. A bit like we got promoted in spite of Russell Martin.

How many of Jason Wilcox’s signings worked out? Shea Charles? Is that it?

[Lighthouse]

10 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Yes. A bit like we got promoted in spite of Russell Martin.

How many of Jason Wilcox’s signings worked out? Shea Charles? Is that it?

Downes, THB, Manning and I suspect he did a lot of the background work on Fernandes.

[beatlesaint]

1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

That's exactly what he wants though. He wants to be seen as the only good player in the team. He sprints around to no real effect so he looks like the hardest worker when what he's actually doing is costing the team their shape. What sort of a captain flops around on the floor, throws their arms up in the air at their own teammates and the ref multiple times a game. That defeated attitude in the rest of the team comes from somewhere. 

Look at his stats from last season. He’s a nasty little sod but he did/does a bit more than “sprint around with no real effect”.

[Willo of Whiteley]

11 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Downes, THB, Manning and I suspect he did a lot of the background work on Fernandes.

Good shouts.

Probably still easier to discuss the ones that weren’t so good that we spent money on that season. Edozie, Bazunu..

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

In the eleven years between Fergie’s retirement and Wilcox being appointed they’ve got through Moyes, LVG, Ole, Mourinho, Rangnick, ETH and RVN. Let’s not pretend it all went wrong when JW took over, that club as been rudderless for thirteen years. Egos with instagram followers control the dressing room.

And he was brought in to fix that, arguably it’s got worse 

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

The problem is, he is their only player who is genuinely any good. Their lineup today was shocking, just an utter eleven of averageness with a what looks to be a defeated attitude flowing through the players.

Absolutely their team is shit in relation to how much they’ve spent. 2nd highest net spend last five years, wasted on average players 

Edited Sunday at 21:17 by Turkish

[Dan Johnson]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

The problem is, he is their only player who is genuinely any good. Their lineup today was shocking, just an utter eleven of averageness with a what looks to be a defeated attitude flowing through the players.

Was speaking to my Utd Supporting mates this afternoon, genuinely, which players in that starting 11 today, and subs who came on, would you take here?

Mbeumo and Cunha of course, but how many wouldn’t you take, not Lammens, Dalot, Yoro, Heaven, Diallo, Santos, Zirkzee, Tielemens, Mount, Lacey, Martinez. As someone who grew up with Utd Dominating, it’s such a damning indictment of where they are, when as a fan of a team 6th in the league below Utd, you look at their squad and see at best, only a handful of players you’d debate about wanting in your own squad, let alone in our starting 11.

 

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

Downes, THB, Manning and I suspect he did a lot of the background work on Fernandes.

Credit where it’s due but Downes and Manning were no doubt players Martin identified and attracted. Doubt Wilcox would spend time looking at Championship players. 
 

Darren Mowbray was also part of the scouting set up at the time. 

[Kenilworthy1959]

28 minutes ago, Dan Johnson said:

Was speaking to my Utd Supporting mates this afternoon, genuinely, which players in that starting 11 today, and subs who came on, would you take here?

Mbeumo and Cunha of course, but how many wouldn’t you take, not Lammens, Dalot, Yoro, Heaven, Diallo, Santos, Zirkzee, Tielemens, Mount, Lacey, Martinez. As someone who grew up with Utd Dominating, it’s such a damning indictment of where they are, when as a fan of a team 6th in the league below Utd, you look at their squad and see at best, only a handful of players you’d debate about wanting in your own squad, let alone in our starting 11.

 

Yoro is one of the worst players I have ever seen in a United shirt. Beaten only perhaps by William Prunier

[Fabrice29]

1 hour ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Yes. A bit like we got promoted in spite of Russell Martin.

How many of Jason Wilcox’s signings worked out? Shea Charles? Is that it?

Incredible the success we had that season given the handicaps we had at this rate. Who did get us promoted out of interest? 

[suewhistle]

Until today I hadn't seen any of Manchester United's games, but took the opportunity this evening to watch the highlights. My goodness, what an awful sloppy lackadaisical team. No cohesion, no effort, no defence.

[Patrick Bateman]

1 hour ago, suewhistle said:

Until today I hadn't seen any of Manchester United's games, but took the opportunity this evening to watch the highlights. My goodness, what an awful sloppy lackadaisical team. No cohesion, no effort, no defence.

I watched that whole match, they really are awful, the players just don't give a shit - new manager will get them a win or 2, then the same will happen. They remind me of 2005 relegation Saints. 

[Dman]

11 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Downes, THB, Manning and I suspect he did a lot of the background work on Fernandes.

Brooks was a good signing as well, to be fair. 
 

Wlicox woefully out of his depth at United though. 

[RedArmy]

11 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Downes, THB, Manning and I suspect he did a lot of the background work on Fernandes.

Downes and Manning were Russell Martin signings. Not sure Wilcox gets the credit for those. 
 

 

[Mr Saints]

Alex Crook giving it large on Talksport this morning slating Wilcox, using Wilcox's signing of Bazunu for 25mil as an example. Great example to use, considering the below:

1) Bazunu cost 12mil

2) Bazunu signed in 2022, Wilcox joined Saints in 2023.

 

Nice work Crooky, maybe Wilcox is not the only one that is inept!

[Saint NL]

This season might be the only chance we see both Manchester clubs get relegated. Ok it's a slim chance, but I have faith

[Doctoroncall]

18 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

This season might be the only chance we see both Manchester clubs get relegated. Ok it's a slim chance, but I have faith

If both get relegated, will they end up in the same division?

so many possibilities for City’s punishment. 

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

2 hours ago, Mr Saints said:

Alex Crook giving it large on Talksport this morning slating Wilcox, using Wilcox's signing of Bazunu for 25mil as an example. Great example to use, considering the below:

1) Bazunu cost 12mil

2) Bazunu signed in 2022, Wilcox joined Saints in 2023.

 

Nice work Crooky, maybe Wilcox is not the only one that is inept!

I really do think it's a load of bull when him and others always say, "my sources tell me".

[Saintinnot]

Didn’t Wilcox agree to join us in December 2022 then had to wait until the summer to join us? His fingers were all over the Bazunu transfer 

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

I really do think it's a load of bull when him and others always say, "my sources tell me".

He is an absolute clown, he's a joke figure.

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, Saintinnot said:

Didn’t Wilcox agree to join us in December 2022 then had to wait until the summer to join us? His fingers were all over the Bazunu transfer 

It was Joe Shields that brought in Bazunu in the summer of 2022, along with Lavia, Edozie and Larios from the Man City academy. Long before Wilcox joined or had any background influence.

[Ex Lion Tamer]

Bottom line: Wilcox came during our period of signing anyone from Man City in the belief they must be good, and we know the results were extremely mixed

[redkeith]

22 hours ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Bottom line: Wilcox came during our period of signing anyone from Man City in the belief they must be good, and we know the results were extremely mixed

No he didn't . Bazunu, Larios and Edozie  were all signed under Joe Shield. 

Wilcox did sign THB and Charles from City , both of whom were succesful on the pitch and made a profit. He did, however sign Holgate and Fraser.  

[Matthew Le God]

22 hours ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Bottom line: Wilcox came during our period of signing anyone from Man City in the belief they must be good, and we know the results were extremely mixed

Which Man City players signed during Wilcox's time are you unhappy with? Only 2 to choose from... Harwood-Bellis and Charles (the others are Joe Shields signings from before Wilcox joined)

Edited 5 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[Matthew Le God]

On 26/10/2026 at 11:32, Saintinnot said:

 His fingers were all over the Bazunu transfer 

No. Bazunu joined us over a year before Wilcox did.

Edited 4 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 hours ago, redkeith said:

No he didn't . Bazunu, Larios and Edozie  were all signed under Joe Shield. 

Wilcox did sign THB and Charles from City , both of whom were succesful on the pitch and made a profit. He did, however sign Holgate and Fraser.  

Fraser did make a good impact at the start of his loan. He was a low cost squad player, so I can see why they brought him back.

Holgate had been told in no uncertain terms to play RussBall from the moment he arrived. Without a 5 yard passing option, his mind crumbled and he got caught out more than once. Had he hoofed it, Martin would have probably dropped him, just when he was trying to make a good impression. 🙂

[Badger]

13 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Fraser did make a good impact at the start of his loan. He was a low cost squad player, so I can see why they brought him back.

Holgate had been told in no uncertain terms to play RussBall from the moment he arrived. Without a 5 yard passing option, his mind crumbled and he got caught out more than once. Had he hoofed it, Martin would have probably dropped him, just when he was trying to make a good impression. 🙂

Fraser was very good in the championship, scored some important goals. Hull away provided a memorable last minute celebration.

Holgate on the other hand…. Many said he was crap on signing, and he lived up to expectations, possibly exceeding them. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

5 minutes ago, Badger said:

Fraser was very good in the championship, scored some important goals. Hull away provided a memorable last minute celebration.

Holgate on the other hand…. Many said he was crap on signing, and he lived up to expectations, possibly exceeding them. 

Yeah. He was no Maitland-Niles 🙂

[Badger]

51 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Yeah. He was no Maitland-Niles 🙂

Fucking hell …. forgotten him. 
 

His time at Saints is most certainly “scar tissue” 

[Ex Lion Tamer]

4 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

Which Man City players signed during Wilcox's time are you unhappy with? Only 2 to choose from... Harwood-Bellis and Charles (the others are Joe Shields signings from before Wilcox joined)

That's got nothing to do with what I said. There was a period of time which spanned more than one DOF where we signed multiple players and a staff member from Man City. Some of them were good but several were not. There seemed to be a club level belief that recruiting from Man City was a good strategy in and of itself.

We can potentially put Wilcox in the same bucket as Bazunu and Larios as poor City recruits, depending on how we rate his performance here and at United

Edited 19 minutes ago by Ex Lion Tamer