Thedelldays Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 will you support it..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 i won't be overjoyed to say the least,but at least we will have a club to support next season. I will have faith in the new regime and their decisions until it becomes blindingly obvious they are making monumental balls ups. I truly hope he gets either moved to another position,such as the Academy,or his P45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I think we would have to back their judgement, the days of petty squabbling have to be over!! saying that, I don't there's a cat in hells chance that wotte will be manager, his contract reverts to academy on July 1st anyway!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I'd be happier to see a manager with English, lower league experience appointed. With all respect to Mark Wotte I don't think he has what it takes. I will support them though, like most of us I was chosen, I just can't walk away over a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 As many of us didn't like the Dutch revolution but still supported the team what makes you think we wouldn't again? Many of us just want a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 will you support it..?? Are you saying you wouldn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 Lets hope the new owner has more intelligence than to employ the dutch nonentity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 He won't be manager they have their own man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 He won't be manager they have their own man. spot on....apart from he will have his own manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 will you support it..?? YES, 'simples' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 Pointless question, it will be one of dowie,tisdale, ince or cotteril. Wotte will be the academy director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 will you support it..?? Of course I will.. I voted on the Manager thread to support " Whoever the new regime deem as right to manage our club".. After the last 5 or 6 years of turmoil and crap, I'm just happy to have the opportunity of a fresh start with new leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I'll support whoever the manager is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 Will not be Manager or Coach and should not be given any other position. He has failed. There are better qualified people to run Saints Academy and Reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 will you support it..?? TBH, this is a bit of a daft question. A couple of weeks ago we were all crying into our beers because it looked likely that we wouldn`t even have a team to support. It now looks (hopefully) as if not only will we be taken over by a team with constructive plans, but it also includes Le God, possibly as Chairman. What more could we have asked for? IF the new people running the club choose to keep Wotte, then I for one will give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I think he will probably stick around but not as manager, I don't think he was ever considered for the managers job by Pinnacle TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 No, because Wotte is a rubbish manager and within a few weeks he'd be sacked anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 will you support it..?? Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 The football we have played in the last three years has been awful. It culminated in Wotte's awful diamond formation. The systems we employed last year played a major part in our relegation. This was down to the two coaches. Wotte is a smart ass coach that doesn't do "simple". What we need is a "manager" first and foremost that believes in keeping it simple. Play a wide 4-4-2 with a high tempo and we will do well. Wotte is not the man to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonko Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 You never know, without all the backroom handbags going on and a little bit of support from the board he might even prove himself to be a decent manager. We'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I'd be happier to see a manager with English, lower league experience appointed. With all respect to Mark Wotte I don't think he has what it takes. I will support them though, like most of us I was chosen, I just can't walk away over a manager. Nicely put. I think Pinnacle will get one opportunity to convince the fans to come and watch League 1 football and I think that will be best achieved by starting with a clean slate. We will be more inclined to "believe again" if there is no baggage from previous regimes - both above and below stairs. However, Wotte will get my support if he is the manager come the start of the season but it will be difficult to be as enthusiastic because I already think that I know what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 If that is the decision then I will support it/him. Personally tho' i'd prefer a clean sweep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 The football we have played in the last three years has been awful. It culminated in Wotte's awful diamond formation. The systems we employed last year played a major part in our relegation. This was down to the two coaches. Wotte is a smart ass coach that doesn't do "simple". What we need is a "manager" first and foremost that believes in keeping it simple. Play a wide 4-4-2 with a high tempo and we will do well. Wotte is not the man to do this. You've said all I wanted to - thanks...good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nutkins Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I would support the new "team" on what they decide, but confess to be feeling a little disapointed that we do not show a positive intent, to change what has clearly not worked.I do not see anything different happening with Mark Wotte still in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 (edited) will you support it..?? IMHO, it is pretty obvious that Wotte WILL be Saints Manager this season. In every utterance to the media, it is "We must" this, and "We must" that In fact, he has said that it is nice to talk to someone who understands Football, (MLT ) ..... as opposed to a Chairman who knew NOTHING about the game (RL ) ...... that says it all really If Stability IS the keyword, then I can't see any New "Owner" causing yet more disturbance so close to the season's start, in what will be the end of a Very traumatic period in SFC's History ..... Wotte does everyone else think ???? Edited 12 June, 2009 by SaintRichmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 will you support it..?? They won't. No doubts about it, they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 will you support it..?? How are you defining 'support'? Conditionally or unconditionally? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I think we should have three managers a season. It's proved to work very nicely in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 IMHO, it is pretty obvious that Wotte WILL be Saints Manager this season. In every utterance to the media, it is "We must" this, and "We must" that When I left my previous job it took me several weeks/months to stop saying "we" when talking about my ex-company, so I wouldn't read too much into it personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 When I left my previous job it took me several weeks/months to stop saying "we" when talking about my ex-company, so I wouldn't read too much into it personally. I accept what you say, but it does come across that any "utterance" from the SFC playing side comes from Wotte ........ I would have thought that if he were NOT to be the designated Manager for this season ...... his comments would at least be "vetted" in some way ..... He does not say "If I were in charge ... " he says " We must ... " etc Different take altogether. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I can't believe the new owners will not want to emply their own manager. Having spent Millions aquiring the club it would strike me as odd if they didn't have a plan of action. To simply stick with a manager that doesn't work would be getting off to a bad start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I was no fan but we might find that free of idiotic background interference and with players of some quality who care, Wotte might be a decent manager. He might not, but we don't really know, all we have established thus far is that he couldn't motivate the worst team in Saints' history. So if our club is saved and the saviour who has piled millions of pounds into Saints makes a decision, I for one am happy to go with it, it would be ungrateful not to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 No, because Wotte is a rubbish manager and within a few weeks he'd be sacked anyway. Stanly in not supporting the saints shocker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 Nicely put. I think Pinnacle will get one opportunity to convince the fans to come and watch League 1 football and I think that will be best achieved by starting with a clean slate. We will be more inclined to "believe again" if there is no baggage from previous regimes - both above and below stairs. However, Wotte will get my support if he is the manager come the start of the season but it will be difficult to be as enthusiastic because I already think that I know what he can do. Cant argue with any of that. Whoever gets the nod next season will have a target of making us safe and anything else will be a bonus. So as long as that is being achieved then who ever is in the job should get our support. The season after we will expect to kick on and if Wotte is still there then I dont think he has what it takes to get us pushing on so I expect a change to be made then if not before this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 IMHO, it is pretty obvious that Wotte WILL be Saints Manager this season. In every utterance to the media, it is "We must" this, and "We must" that In fact, he has said that it is nice to talk to someone who understands Football, (MLT ) ..... as opposed to a Chairman who knew NOTHING about the game (RL ) ...... that says it all really If Stability IS the keyword, then I can't see any New "Owner" causing yet more disturbance so close to the season's start, in what will be the end of a Very traumatic period in SFC's History ..... Wotte does everyone else think ???? Right now he is still the boss and untill he gets told to move over or be gone then talking about "we" when refering to the team next season is the right thing to do. If he said they or I he would get a slating for not preparing in a professional manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I have never heard so much crap. The only reason Wotte will be manager is if they cannot get in the / or a candidate they want. What possibly could happen is because of the very late timing, Wotte may be in charge for the short term waiting for a suitable candidate to be available. If for any reason Wotte gets an extended run and does well I imagine his chances of retaining the job would become a lot higher. So at the present time it looks as though the only way Wotte would be here in the long term is if he were successful, now there would be a terrible dilemma for the muppets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 Its up to the new owners but I would be surprised if they keep Wotte on as manager. He was part of a failed experiment that went badly wrong. If we want to move on surely it is wise to bring in someone with some experience in the lower leagues and some success stories. I mean no disrespect to Wotte as he seems a nice bloke, but we need winners now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I like Wotte as a bloke and i do hope he sticks around in some capacity - but in all honesty as a manager he was pretty clueless. If he is still manager next season (which is VERY unlikely IMO) then of course I for one will right behind him and the team. Until we lose to Wycombe at home - MLT AND WOTTE OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 i will get behind our manager whoever he maybe, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 will you support it..?? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 Yes because the new owners will have saved the club. I think he may take a short-term post with the club in another capacity before being offered something overseas. The guy has conducted himself fairly well in an awful time but I don't think he'll be offered a new deal as first team boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 yes, I would hope that means that they have heard/seen enough to convince them that with a stable boardroom, cash and sole control he is worth a shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 yes, I would hope that means that they have heard/seen enough to convince them that with a stable boardroom, cash and sole control he is worth a shout. would be nice to think that but its probably more likly that they decide its too late in the day once they take over to change the top man. they might line someone up for a change should Wotte do carp or give him 6 months to get the new squad up and running. sooner they take over the better all round. last thing we need will be to still be in limbo a week before the 1st game. the players that are out of contract will be gone by then and the likes of surman and co will want to know what they are doing so may even push for a move themselves. we could be starting league 1 on -10 points and about the same in squad size with a brand new last minute manager. not the ideal start IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 Stanly in not supporting the saints shocker! I'll support the club 100% next year, I just don't think having Wotte is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 yes, I would hope that means that they have heard/seen enough to convince them that with a stable boardroom, cash and sole control he is worth a shout. are you championing Wotte ahead of PT now Nick????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I'll support the club 100% next year, I just don't think having Wotte is a good idea. I wasnt having a pop but your answer to the OP was that you wouldnt yet now you say you would? If the question was "did Wotte do enough last year to earn the right to keep his job next year?" I doubt there would be many that said yes. But if the new owners decide to give him the job then there shouldnt really be many that wont support there decission. even if its seen as a temperary one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFKA South Woodford Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 Stanly in not supporting the saints shocker! Indeed in a few months he'll be patting himself on the back for his boycott that got rid of 'the Dutch experiment' I don't care if we have a new manager or Mark Wotte in charge, all I want is to see a Saints team playing at St Marys come the start of the new season. It would be nice though if it included some new players that will make a difference at League 1 level, so that we can all have more joy than sorrow in a season for the first time since 2002/03. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I wasnt having a pop but your answer to the OP was that you wouldnt yet now you say you would? If the question was "did Wotte do enough last year to earn the right to keep his job next year?" I doubt there would be many that said yes. But if the new owners decide to give him the job then there shouldnt really be many that wont support there decission. even if its seen as a temperary one. I'll get behind the team at games but how can I say i 'd support a decision that i believe is wrong? If Wotte does stay on and does a good job i'll change my tune though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 it's an academic arguement.If Pinnacle come through, Wotte won't be first team manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 12 June, 2009 Share Posted 12 June, 2009 I'll get behind the team at games but how can I say i 'd support a decision that i believe is wrong? If Wotte does stay on and does a good job i'll change my tune though. Fair enough. Ive said before that IF he does get the job, the only way he will keep it will be if he does fantastically well and if that happens im pretty sure most that have any doubts will change there tune. More likly will be he is replaced by xmas though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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