Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Not too sure what changed towards the end of the game. Our possession of the ball for much of the game tiring them out towards the end? Think we made more changes overall, so would have had fresher legs? Mayuka and Lambert were a more threatening combination than Lallana and Rodriguez who tried hard, but lack any cutting edge of killer instinct around goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 3-1? Really? Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Good god their fans are awesome They're doing my head in, they make exactly the same noise no matter what's happening, if they score, if we score, if someone chins the ref it's just continual woah-woah-woah-woah-woah-wooooah clap clap clap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 I think our new kit played awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 My stream was so far behind I didn't see the last goal before it stopped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 haha I´m not stupid. I´m just unlucky sometimes when I try to think..... So why is it lighter there then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Just played better when Lambert added a focal point to the attack and Punch and Isgrove injected some movement and energy out wide. In the first half JWP and Guly didn't look capable of creating a chance. Decent win against a good side but overall performance patchy. Would imagine Besiktas wouldn't have been too happy with their own performance either based on the standard their supposed to be at. Thought we were worth the win over the full 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Ive always said I prefer watching MP's team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Funny how we played better after Lallana went off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 They're doing my head in, they make exactly the same noise no matter what's happening, if they score, if we score, if someone chins the ref it's just continual woah-woah-woah-woah-woah-wooooah clap clap clap. Yeah, why I hate foreign support/ultras etc, same repetitive, monotonous droning sound regardless if they're 4-0 up or 4 down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 COYS World Champions:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Just a pre-season game so not worthwhile commenting on individuals in my opinion but a few things to note about the team as a whole: 1. Our distribution from the back still isn't good enough. I don't know if it is a player quality issue (either passing from defenders or movement from midfielders) but it doesn't seem too hard to defend against. 2. I still don't think we move the ball anywhere near quick enough in the final third when we win it back high up the pitch. I don't know if it is a confidence issue or some of the players just aren't quick enough carrying the ball. 3. Our opponents were comfortably our equals today but they tired quickly in the final 20mins and our lads looked like they had plenty left in the tank. I think we made more subs than them but they start their season the same weekend we do and we looked miles fitter than them. Game was quite niggly for a friendly, but always fun to see a bit of aggro on the pitch. Particularly enjoyed Puncheon getting clattered and shoved in his face, only for him to follow it up 2mins later by completely taking out said player. Plus was fun seeing the reaction of the Turkish midfielder when he tried to square up to Wanyama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Agree with most of the rest of you - rather toothless for 70-odd minutes and then bossed it. Mayuka, Lovren and Davis all had meaningful impacts (although Davis probably should have cut the ball back for a simple tap in rather than attempting that lob). Top finishes from Mayuka and Lambert. Would be delighted to see Mayuka step up next season; so much pace and looks far less lightweight these days. Could be a great foil for Lambert, especially with Rickie dropping deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Give it a rest!!Means everything now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Isgrove has looked decent in both of these friendlies, as has Puncheon. Surely Puncheon is pushing to start against WBA and Isgrove at least feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Pretty dismal performance to be honest. Astonishing that we won that. Mind you, Besiktas were even less interested than we were. Hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Yeah, why I hate foreign support/ultras etc, same repetitive, monotonous droning sound regardless if they're 4-0 up or 4 down. Their support ****es on ours from a great height though, lets be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 How come its lighter there than here when they're an hour ahead and further South? Because it's overcast here, should still be light for 2 more hours otherwise. No cloud there so appears lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Because it's overcast here, should still be light for 2 more hours otherwise. No cloud there so appears lighter. Think that must be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Their support ****es on ours from a great height though, lets be honest. I'm gonna come round your house, stand in your front room all night going woah-woah-woah-woah-woah-wooooah clap clap clap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 haha I´m not stupid. I´m just unlucky sometimes when I try to think..... So why is it lighter there then? Floodlights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Funny how we played better after Lallana went off... That would be the same time that Morgan went off as well. So you're saying we are crap when Morgan is playing are you? Seem to recall he was player of the season last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Some strange selections which you can put down to experimentation but which disrupted the flow of the game. Jrod showed again why I don't think he can lead the line - whoever we bring in has to be able to hold up the ball like Lambert. Think Osvaldo is better than Damaio in that regard. The game also showed how dependent on Clyne or Shaw for movement and directness. Our midfield isn't going to do it alone. Time for Ramirez to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Their support ****es on ours from a great height though, lets be honest. Not really, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 I'm gonna come round your house, stand in your front room all night going woah-woah-woah-woah-woah-wooooah clap clap clap As long as you bring a Vuvuzela and a flare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Golden Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Not really, no. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtLxpMyh13g It's no Sammy saint doing Gangham Style I'll give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Their support ****es on ours from a great height though, lets be honest. If by "being honest", you mean heralding a bunch of people chanting the same thing endlessly without giving a toss about what's happening in the match, I'd agree. It was a bit like watching football, whilst listening to an unimaginative, disinterested one-note black gospel choir wandering around within hearing distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 That would be the same time that Morgan went off as well. So you're saying we are crap when Morgan is playing are you? Seem to recall he was player of the season last year. And where have I mentioned Morgan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Looking forward to Alpine's well balanced and informative report. Or has witnessing a Saints victory in person caused the poor chap to explode!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 This friendly is not so meaningless If they are so meaningless why do we AND every other team have them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 If they are so meaningless why do we AND every other team have them? Ignore delldays he's being a tube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Funny how we played better after Lallana went off... Not really, we've played better when he's not been playing since January. He's behind Ramirez, Punch and Davis IMO and even Isgrove offers more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 And where have I mentioned Morgan? For what it's worth I thought Schneiderlin was a bit below par and anonymous. Know is doesn't matter yet, but if we're looking at individual players we livened up and had more energy when he went off. Still none the wiser how we line up come the 17th in lots of positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 If by "being honest", you mean heralding a bunch of people chanting the same thing endlessly without giving a toss about what's happening in the match, I'd agree. It was a bit like watching football, whilst listening to an unimaginative, disinterested one-note black gospel choir wandering around within hearing distance. It was a bit like that I guess, but it also sounded like the moronic pikeys from down the road, noisy, empty headed Turkish impersonators of the Skate barstewards ! Grrr.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 And where have I mentioned Morgan? Nowhere, because you were trying to imply it was Llallana going off that made the difference. You forgot conveniently to mention our best player went off at same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Very good result against a CL team. Solid in the first half although lacked In the final third especially without Clyne and Shaw. jWP lost out wide and Adam anonymous. Second half- who gave VW the multi pack of McCoys deep ridge crisps....... As a CM he is a very good sidescreen. Much better with pace up front and superb finishes by Mayuka and Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Comfortable in possesion for most of the game, but disinterested going forward. As soon as they scored we woke up and started having a go. Missed Lloyd's goal but 2 quality strikes and glad to see all three players get off the mark. low key game but a good test and work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Waiting on Alpines summary............ & photos if you took any Alps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Looking forward to Alpine's well balanced and informative report. Or has witnessing a Saints victory in person caused the poor chap to explode!? No, but my voice has gone. Maybe you heard us ? I'd like to think we helped to make the third goal. My verdict on today : Boruc is #1 goalie. No doubt in my mind. Fox, Jos, Fonte and Chambers did very well, imo. Chambers getting better with every game, Jos's distribution still pants. Still to be convinced by Ward-Prowse. Cork did better in the first half than the second. He also gave the ball away for their goal. IMO Clynes backup is now Chambers, not Cork. Morgan has had better games than this. And needs to keep his mouth shut with the refs. Wanyamma was again a rock, winning stuff in the middle. A bit impetuous, and maybe didnt run back a couple of times when he should have, but really he brings so much to the middle. We havent had someone like him since Jimmy Case. Rickie had a poor, poor game until his goal. When he scored, we were transformed. He carries so much of the spirit of the team, they look to him. J-Rod worked hard and kept them on their toes, scared them a couple of times. Adam was better in the middle today, but it still looks a bit like style over substance. But he was better than Wedensday. Isgrove - one to watch. We want pace, he's got it. S. Davis is turning into the new Matt Oakley for me. Not high profile, but adds a lot to the team as a unit. Overall, we looked much better than Wednesday, but how much of that was due to the opposition ? Besiktas fans - mad as a box of frogs. Never felt in any danger though. And as I said, Andy Durman sent a group with a drum away with a flea in their collective ear without any comeback. Didnt like NCs green shorts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 No, but my voice has gone. Maybe you heard us ? I'd like to think we helped to make the third goal. My verdict on today : Boruc is #1 goalie. No doubt in my mind. Fox, Jos, Fonte and Chambers did very well, imo. Chambers getting better with every game, Jos's distribution still pants. Still to be convinced by Ward-Prowse. Cork did better in the first half than the second. He also gave the ball away for their goal. IMO Clynes backup is now Chambers, not Cork. Morgan has had better games than this. And needs to keep his mouth shut with the refs. Wanyamma was again a rock, winning stuff in the middle. A bit impetuous, and maybe didnt run back a couple of times when he should have, but really he brings so much to the middle. We havent had someone like him since Jimmy Case. Rickie had a poor, poor game until his goal. When he scored, we were transformed. He carries so much of the spirit of the team, they look to him. J-Rod worked hard and kept them on their toes, scared them a couple of times. Adam was better in the middle today, but it still looks a bit like style over substance. But he was better than Wedensday. Isgrove - one to watch. We want pace, he's got it. S. Davis is turning into the new Matt Oakley for me. Not high profile, but adds a lot to the team as a unit. Overall, we looked much better than Wednesday, but how much of that was due to the opposition ? Besiktas fans - mad as a box of frogs. Never felt in any danger though. And as I said, Andy Durman sent a group with a drum away with a flea in their collective ear without any comeback. Didnt like NCs green shorts... Many thanks. I didn't see the game today, life got in the way. Good to hear that there were so many positives. Really am hoping that Isgrove is more of a Lallana in terms of his future then a Reeves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChudSaint Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Highlights.. http://youtu.be/qYJ08qldA28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Cheers for the summary Alps - you have changed for the better of late! From the stream thought Punch made an impact too. 38 degree temps may explain the low tempo from both sides at times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 It was a bit like that I guess, but it also sounded like the moronic pikeys from down the road, noisy, empty headed Turkish impersonators of the Skate barstewards ! Grrr.... Are you saying they all talked with subtitles & dressed like Hitler? Oh wrong thread. Interestingly our "2ndish" string held a CL team more advanced in their preparations for 45 minutes. Sure we created nowt but no Danny Fox moments. That's as impressive as the final score. Onwards & upwards, creativity needed in front of the box and we could look ready to start the season. Cue Gaston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Are you saying they all talked with subtitles & dressed like Hitler? Oh wrong thread. Interestingly our "2ndish" string held a CL team more advanced in their preparations for 45 minutes. Not sure how much more advanced in their preparations they are, as their season starts the same time as ours? Anyone know if their team was at full strength? They looked poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Cheers for the summary Alps - you have changed for the better of late! From the stream thought Punch made an impact too. 38 degree temps may explain the low tempo from both sides at times! Forgot Punch - yeah, he was good again. IMO, if Isgrove and Chambers are really stepping up to the plate, we really only have to worry about a CB, and maybe, just maybe, we are alright without them if either Jos or Jose sharpens up a bit. Question is, how to give Chambers and Isgrove a really good go at it in competitive games, without risking firmly entrenching ourselves in the relegation zone if it goes somehow wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Alpine. To us mortals not at the game, it came across as very different to what you report Maybe worth keeping that in mind for the coming season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Cheers for the updates Alps. Loving the new pragmatism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 Forgot Punch - yeah, he was good again. IMO, if Isgrove and Chambers are really stepping up to the plate, we really only have to worry about a CB, and maybe, just maybe, we are alright without them if either Jos or Jose sharpens up a bit. Question is, how to give Chambers and Isgrove a really good go at it in competitive games, without risking firmly entrenching ourselves in the relegation zone if it goes somehow wrong ? Let's see on Chambers and Isgrove - people were frothing at the gash following JWP's performance against Ajax and others last preseason. It turned out that he wasn't ready - it'll be obvious very quickly whether these two are ready. There's little risk with giving them taster unless MP does what NA did with Gazza... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 27 July, 2013 Share Posted 27 July, 2013 We began looking a team when Lallana left the field and Ricky took over as Captain. Similar to last season. Ricky for Captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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