NickG Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Southampton-line-up-Steve-Coppell-for-key-role-at-St-Mary-s-article147907.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 So the press tell us am unsure on this...will certainly put more pressure on pardew...im sure he will give it a seal of approval as I doubt the new owners will do this 'over his head' so to speak.. if this happens..we will know who will eventually be our next manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 While I'm not entirely convinced about the DOF role... we could do a lot worse than bring Coppell into the club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Southampton-line-up-Steve-Coppell-for-key-role-at-St-Mary-s-article147907.html On paper it looks like a welcome addition, I hope that Pardew accepted the job knowing he would be working with a Director of football. Coppell is a big name and we would be punching well above our weight to bring him to Saints and i just hope the management and coaching staff see this as a positive and not stepping on theirs toes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Good move if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 what would be funny...we would have a DoF and manager both better than paul hart...hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Dunno ?? Speculation just because of Downes being appointed maybe ?? If AP is happy with it, i suppose i will be happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 So the press tell us am unsure on this...will certainly put more pressure on pardew...im sure he will give it a seal of approval as I doubt the new owners will do this 'over his head' so to speak.. if this happens..we will know who will eventually be our next manager... TBH I don't think Coppell actually wants a manager's job any more. I think this sort of role is ideal for him. He can use his expertise to run the football side behind the scenes leaving Pardew, Wilkins and Downes to look after team affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 He has worked with Pardew before, albeit in a different capacity. Either way, yet more strength in depth added to our infrastructure. Hope it ensures targets on the pitch can be met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glkdcdes Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 I am sure Pardew will be more than happy about appointment. The new owner is no fool, he would have made appointment with Pardews full support and involvement. Another massive sign of intent.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 So long as Pardew has given this move the green light, then it can only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Hmmm...I wonder.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Pardew would have been made aware of this during his recruitment process. Cortese made it quite clear when they first took over the club that they wanted a DoF - this was before Pard's was appointed. I'm sure that Coppell is someone Pard's would have recommended also - at the end of the day, they're both going to be working closely together, so it makes sense if Pard's was consulted on the appointment. Nothing to worry about IMO - just another sign of intent by the new guys. To me, it seems as if we're putting together a team of winners at all levels. - now it's just for the first team to click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 AP, Downes, Coppell - all good football people with experience, yet more progress as far as I am concerned. Caveated with ..."if true" of course...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon monkey Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Although suspicious of a director of football role, Coppell is a highly respected man, quiet, intellegent and knows the game. He will know to Respect Pardew and his role and Pardew will do the same. This won't be the case of some italian or foreign guy coming in and flexing their muscles. If this comes true, it will be a marvellous investment in taking the club further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 If true everything is definately coming together off the pitch. Hopefully every thing will come together on the pitch as soon as possible as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mase Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 So long as Pardew has given this move the green light, then it can only be a good thing. " " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 (edited) A very wise appointment (if true) and another huge display of intent as well as an intelligent, well considered acquisition. Cortese has stated the requirement for this role to assist the first team manager. Pardew will know & I firmly believe ratify this appointment. One coaching, another running & overseeing the structure & dealing with suggested transfers, etc. Also, I don't think Pardew's arrogant enough to not turn to such a person on football matters & tactics, to bounce around some ideas on the odd, rare occasion. 2 heads are better than one. After all, it's all for the same objective. Success. It seems the Swiss are considered & wise. Not rushing, but gradually gaining momentum & harnassing a team of winners to deliver success. Just need a few more goal scorers to help achieve our...errrr, GOALS! ;0) Edited 7 September, 2009 by Gordon Mockles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 so coppell to take over if/when AP fails Or reading too much into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 so coppell to take over if/when AP fails Or reading too much into it? Reading surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 No for me. DOF never work out - they are more trouble than they are worth. Just ask Dennis Wise at Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghq Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 If Coppell is to make a success of this position, if,indeed, he does accept it, will he realise whose shoes he's about to fill? None other than that doyen of Directors of Football the nonpariel Rupert Lowe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 No for me. DOF never work out - they are more trouble than they are worth. Just ask Dennis Wise at Newcastle. Tend to agree. All of these continental set-ups etc always seem to end in tears/relegation/sackings/DoF wanting to be manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 As others have said, if this does nothing to unsettle Pardew then fine. I am frankly more concerned that the team is sorted out on the pitch and we start winning frankly. But I think it's important to recognise that ML and Nicola are trying to re-build this club properly and for a lasting future so that mistakes of the past are not made again. If true, I think this could be another inspired 'signing'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 What does a DOF actually do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 As with others i do not like the idea of dof, it does not seem to work much and if anything can cause a lot of problems. Having a guy above the manager whom the manager must come to and deal with can end in tears. However He might be brought in simply because of his relationship in the past with Pardew (no not that kind of relationship). So Pardew might have said he would be a good guy to have at the club to report to. Someone he get's on with and someone more importantly who will understand what managing is about. If Pardew comes to see him and says "we lack someone in these positions, i think xyz might be a good addition" etc then someone like Coppell will be a good person to suggest that too. He would be more likely to say yes. He would then speak to Nicola who will then release the cash. If you stand back and look at it then it is a very smart move, a wise business decision as long as Pardew knows the person, trusts the person and both want the club to do well. If it was some guy who has bugger all experience in english football brought in over his head then would be a clear no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Southampton-line-up-Steve-Coppell-for-key-role-at-St-Mary-s-article147907.html I like the caption beneath: "Win something everyday!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Tend to agree. All of these continental set-ups etc always seem to end in tears/relegation/sackings/DoF wanting to be manager I think they work if there is an amicable agreement between all parties (at the start) - and seeing as Pard's and Coppell have both worked together before, it's better than other options. IMO DOF roles fail when an unknown foreigner comes in and starts signing players from his country....ala QPR in a sense, that hasn't worked too well. Nicky Hammond was influential in readings rise through the leagues, working alongside coppell. So in that sense i believe that Coppell will understand what Pard's will expect from him and also have a good view of what to expect from Pards. I think it will work - it's less of a gamble than say, a swiss ''football'' man coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Hmmm... I doubt this is true... I think the reality is more likely to go a bit like this: * Cortese gives some vague hints as to the sort of structure he would like to see at the club.... Some time later... * The Mirror hears a rumour that Saints are talking to someone who has previously been employed by Brentford and Palace. * The Mirror jumps to the conclusion that Saints are about to sign Coppell as DoF. * The Mirror begins to put the story together. * Saints announce that Wally Downes has been signed as coach, thus bringing in a two tier structure with Pardew in charge of transfers and player management and Downes in charge of coaching. * The Mirror decide to continue with their story anyway having invested a lot of time and money into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Hmmm... I doubt this is true... I think the reality is more likely to go a bit like this: * Cortese gives some vague hints as to the sort of structure he would like to see at the club.... Some time later... * The Mirror hears a rumour that Saints are talking to someone who has previously been employed by Brentford and Palace. * The Mirror jumps to the conclusion that Saints are about to sign Coppell as DoF. * The Mirror begins to put the story together. * Saints announce that Wally Downes has been signed as coach, thus bringing in a two tier structure with Pardew in charge of transfers and player management and Downes in charge of coaching. * The Mirror decide to continue with their story anyway having invested a lot of time and money into it. Coppell has been seen at St Mary's twice in the last few months though, recently at home v brentford iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Never been a massive fan of DOF's but I'd say that mainly ignorance on my part. What roles do they perform. Are they 'higher' placed then the manager on certain things or all things. I hope the team is well informaed of this and everyone is happy. In saying that, Coppell was a common name for when we were looking at replacing the manager , hope the experience he brings adds to the overall performance on and off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Let's see... A Director approved by the owner to make decisions about Footballing issues who would know and be able to work in a team with the Manager. As opposed to Rupert. Hope it happens, but then it's the Mirror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 I like the good ol' tradtional manager set up. But, I guess - if Pards is content - having Steve Coppell on board continues to show ambition and will attract players. Quality DOF who understands the League has to be worth having. It's when you put a Rugby coach or a Dutch fraud in and a mystery advisor called Kim vdW that things start to get a little suspect on the DOF front. I am happy with Copps! Smell the sweet air of ambition and repair... mmmmm nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Hmmm... I doubt this is true... I think the reality is more likely to go a bit like this: * Cortese gives some vague hints as to the sort of structure he would like to see at the club.... Some time later... * The Mirror hears a rumour that Saints are talking to someone who has previously been employed by Brentford and Palace. * The Mirror jumps to the conclusion that Saints are about to sign Coppell as DoF. * The Mirror begins to put the story together. * Saints announce that Wally Downes has been signed as coach, thus bringing in a two tier structure with Pardew in charge of transfers and player management and Downes in charge of coaching. * The Mirror decide to continue with their story anyway having invested a lot of time and money into it. Its hardly new - Coppell has been rumoured to be coming here for sometime in this capacity. I think there's a small amount of truth in this one. Refreshingly our new no-politics boardroom are able to maintain a degree of security in their decision-making unlike the last bunch of amateurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthred Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 interview on bbc radio berkshire yesterday with coppell saying he misses 3pm on a saturday, would like to work in football again but has nothing lined up yet and is enjoying other things at the moment. so prob true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 I think he's coming. Amazing isnt it... new owners and all of a sudden we have the best managerial set up whilst in League 1 (!) that we've had arguably in 14 odd years including the Premiership. Wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Pardew: Portvliet Coppell: Wotte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanfairoak Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Pardew: Portvliet Coppell: WotteI THINK YOU HAVE THE DT`S SIR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Hmmm It is a well known secret that Coppell was Cortese's preferred option as our first choice manager and I gather he was very close to signing a contract - only pulling out at the very last moment due to the fact that he hadn't yet had the 6 months off that he had promised himself upon leaving Reading. I think the Mirror have picked up on this snippet and added 2+2. Like many on here I am nervous of the DoF role - the personalities have to match and not sure Pardew would welcome it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Not sure about dof,I would say it is more manager in waiting when the pressure on pardew gets too great. If I'm honest I would feel a bit more comfortable with coppel as manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 We in danger of having too many chiefs and not enough Indians . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 DOF = another cook in the kitchen spoiling the broth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 It works for me if everyone works in tandem!! I am looking forward to our 5 game winning streak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 (edited) DOF is an unnecessary post. Let Pardew manage, and Cortese do the contracts and transfer negotiations. Why do we need anyone else. I would rather spend the money on a couple of loans. Edited 8 September, 2009 by Wade Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 8 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 September, 2009 No for me. DOF never work out - they are more trouble than they are worth. Just ask Dennis Wise at Newcastle. think Dennis Wise quite liked the idea of the role - KK didn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 This story isn't just in the Mirror. It's in the Daily Mail, been reported on Tribalfootball. Coppell is just the right person for the post and shows real ambition from Nicolas Cortese. Now go and get Camara before he's stupid enough to sign for Pompey. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1211812/Southampton-want-tempt-Steve-Coppell-director-football.html?ITO=1490 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 I'm happy if Pardew is happy. If in any way this is true however. It has been said many times that it is going to take a considerable amount of time to turn the club around and right all the wrongs that has been instilled in SFC,from top to bottom.If this is the case then i feel,again as long as Pardew is comfortable with the setup,then this move can only speed up and assist Pardew in his somewhat difficult task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Good idea I think. Besides - a ready-made replacement for AP...should the worst happen of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutwood2 Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 This story isn't just in the Mirror. It's in the Daily Mail, been reported on Tribalfootball. Coppell is just the right person for the post and shows real ambition from Nicolas Cortese. Now go and get Camara before he's stupid enough to sign for Pompey. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1211812/Southampton-want-tempt-Steve-Coppell-director-football.html?ITO=1490 Totally agree with that. Getting Coppell on board in whatever capacity surely has to be excellent news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 I feel good about this if true. Coppell is not the big ego that would clash with the manager if the lines are clearly drawn and I think that Coppell would also relish the job, having the spotlight away from him, but still being involved with football. It would also allow Pardew to concentrate on coaching the team full time, not having the distractions of involvement with all the technicalities of transfer activity. This would pretty well complete the entire infrastructure of management, from D of F, Mananger, assistant coach, scout, etc. We would have some highly qualified and respected people in those posts, better than most other clubs in our league position and it will be a further encouragemement for players to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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