Viking Warrior Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I see the echo are reporting that Andy Oldk now has left by mutual consent and that the club are not planning to replace him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spades Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I see the echo are reporting that Andy Oldk now has left by mutual consent and that the club are not planning to replace him Bit of an odd one... oh well in leibherr and cortese we trust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Looks like Cortese is up to speed on everything then. Cheers Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 From what I've been hearing this is a very good thing for the club, staff and fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I must admit I was never sure what he did. Cortese is fully involved day to day, so I think this a natural evolution. But I know nothing of his job spec and what he did for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 From what I've been hearing this is a very good thing for the club, staff and fans. Heard the same he was not well liked during his time with the club before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 It was well known he was'nt liked by some off the staff in his previous role. I think his job with NC was to intiate the transfer of Cortese's role and just guide/tutour him in what football business in roles with being a chairman/managing director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 AO..Hired with the sole objective of selling the painting of the train. This was achieved last weekend when he recieved £5 at a car boot sale. He has now moved on to the antiques roadshow and will appearing in the new series shortly. We must thank AO for his great contribution in bringing our new owner to the club after some dumb ass totally derailed us. First class travel all the way to Wembley...tickets please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I see the echo are reporting that Andy Oldk now has left by mutual consent and that the club are not planning to replace him I was going to apply for this job but did not want to pay for my tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 It was well known he was'nt liked by some off the staff in his previous role. I think his job with NC was to intiate the transfer of Cortese's role and just guide/tutour him in what football business in roles with being a chairman/managing director. I think your right. NC will have needed AO to show him the 'ropes' etc of the footy world. No doubt AO will be walking away from SFC with another nice earner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I had heard rumours that he had not been getting on with NC who I hear is a shrewd, tough cookie to deal with. He was appointed after NC rang the FA asking if they could recommend anyone for the position. He had nothing to do with the Swiss coming to the table. In a way I am personally a little saddened by the news because although he had a bad reputation with some of the staff I felt AO was a "football" man and also he showed a genuine interest in the history and traditions of the club when we held our one meeting on the future role for Hagiology and the club's 125th anniversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughnutman Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Interesting... I always expected him to be one of the 5 advisors the NC spoke of when he gave one of his first interviews about the vision for the club. Incidentally, have any of these 5 people actually been named/appointed. I presume 'teflon' would be one of them being the finance director (if he is still here that is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I had heard rumours that he had not been getting on with NC who I hear is a shrewd, tough cookie to deal with. He was appointed after NC rang the FA asking if they could recommend anyone for the position. He had nothing to do with the Swiss coming to the table. In a way I am personally a little saddened by the news because although he had a bad reputation with some of the staff I felt AO was a "football" man and also he showed a genuine interest in the history and traditions of the club when we held our one meeting on the future role for Hagiology and the club's 125th anniversary. You sure? I wonder how the rumours started that he was involved in gettling liebherr then? I'm sure if you could organise a meeting with NC that he would be equally as enthusiastic about the history of the club Duncan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfinks Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 This is no surprise, I got the feeling he was a middle man to introduce NC to the system, football methods etc, now that NC is doing the bizz then why have AO. You could argue that this allows NC full control which he may want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 You sure? I wonder how the rumours started that he was involved in gettling liebherr then? I'm sure if you could organise a meeting with NC that he would be equally as enthusiastic about the history of the club Duncan. Maybe I will try and meet NC when he is not busy I don't know. Will have to see! I know AO was not instrumental in bringing ML to the table because he told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 clearly not someone who learns from previous mistakes, I say keep that person well away from our club as we have seen the affect that can have. I posted before that AO was entitled to a role with the club as back then it was muted that he DID play a part in bringing ML to the table, I know confidence can be confused with arrogance but to be booted out once more and in real terms, in quick succession, suggests it can't be everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Well considering he was part of the execs that seemingly hijacked the club for their own personal needs, i think good riddance. I read somewhere he was instrumental in this 'all pay for tickets' pr stunt in the echo which was not well recieved by many within the executive club. I can remember all the stuff on here from when he first arrived with Wilde. It all looked rather iffy with rumours of sackings due to his part time attitude to a working week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Seems it might be a case of a leopard not able to change its spots. If he was greeted with such outrage last time he was here by staff i always wondered how he could come back into the fold and start afresh. Just under 4 months in the job suggests he couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I had heard rumours that he had not been getting on with NC who I hear is a shrewd, tough cookie to deal with. He was appointed after NC rang the FA asking if they could recommend anyone for the position. He had nothing to do with the Swiss coming to the table. In a way I am personally a little saddened by the news because although he had a bad reputation with some of the staff I felt AO was a "football" man and also he showed a genuine interest in the history and traditions of the club when we held our one meeting on the future role for Hagiology and the club's 125th anniversary. Oh dear thats your job gone then................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I can only go on what the Echo says, I am no ITK. If it is true, he was only a short-term transition appointment, borne out by the fact he is not being replaced. He helped get things running again, and I read somwhere he helped get the Swiss to the table, so my preliminary opinion on his departure is Good Luck and Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I wonder if this paves the way for the Sporting Director appointment? If Oldknow is not being replaced, running the 'company' seems a hell of a big jog for one man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Thought he had been very quiet this time around. Met up with him and NC albeit very briefly a few weeks ago and all seemed rosey in the garden then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 ... I felt AO was a "football" man and also he showed a genuine interest in the history and traditions of the club when we held our one meeting on the future role for Hagiology and the club's 125th anniversary. Duncan, Are you able/allowed to tell us of any plans for next year ? e.g. Request a home game for that weekend (21st Nov) ?, a special Club Shirt with "125 year Badge" ? etc. Also are there any plans for the Norwich game this year (124 years) or will the focus be totally on 3 points that day ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Ill lose no sleep over it onwards and upwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Cheerio cheerio cheerio etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I vaguely know Andy Oldknow and bumped into him soon after he rejoined the club. He suggested meeting up to see if people I know could assist with commercial development at the club. The meet never happened. No problems as far as I was concerned as assumed he was v busy within a revised commercial environment Some time after I was in a group invited to the Brizzle Rovs game, essentially to meet NC and hear about the commercial vision for the future Unfortunately Andy O had to do the presentation himself as NC 'called away' for urgent business. We were all told to expect a call from the commercial team within a short time. No call has been received to date. Meanwhile John O'Sullivan (the ex Commercial Director) has been away from work for several weeks (heard he was unwell and, if so, I hope he makes a speedy and full recovery) In addition there has been at least one other, respected, member of the commercial team given their P45 this week so there does appear to have been a root and branch review of commercial activity at the club. Hope everything works out well for the staff involved and for the long term future of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I can only go on what the Echo says, I am no ITK. If it is true, he was only a short-term transition appointment, borne out by the fact he is not being replaced. He helped get things running again, and I read somwhere he helped get the Swiss to the table, so my preliminary opinion on his departure is Good Luck and Thanks for the help. Aboslutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Or even, absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Bring back Lawrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I had heard rumours that he had not been getting on with NC who I hear is a shrewd, tough cookie to deal with. He was appointed after NC rang the FA asking if they could recommend anyone for the position. He had nothing to do with the Swiss coming to the table. In a way I am personally a little saddened by the news because although he had a bad reputation with some of the staff I felt AO was a "football" man and also he showed a genuine interest in the history and traditions of the club when we held our one meeting on the future role for Hagiology and the club's 125th anniversary. I agree with Duncan but I am more worried than saddened but then I didn't know him personally. Sometimes if a director is disliked by some it's a sign he he is simply doing his job and sometimes it means he is doing it very well. Cortese seems very clever but we are left a bit exposed on the footballing side and a senior person who understands not just the business of football but the footballing culture in this country. To many outsiders at times it must feel like an acquired taste and I personally would have liked a major change like this to occur during the next close season. I'm sure it won't upset the apple cart but nonetheless a time for a modicum of caution than dismissiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Wouldn't be surprised to hear Coppell has arrived on Monday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Bring back Lawrie. Why pamber to his churlishness and reward his dummy spitting? The McMenemy bridge has been burned IMO otherwise Cortese is not as shrewd as some suggest. Do we need McMenemy to boost crowds? I don't remember the corporate boxes being full to bursting the last time he played meet and greet for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 If rumours are to be believed he is the reason that Marcus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese are at our club - for this we all owe him a big thankyou. That said he does have one of those faces i'd love to punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I recall Duncan posting a few times that he had received generous support from AO in his role as historian.. He did appear to have some nouse and knowledge and therefore added some value. However, if Nicola can do without him then so be it! In Markus and Nicola we trust ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Why pamber to his churlishness and reward his dummy spitting? The McMenemy bridge has been burned IMO otherwise Cortese is not as shrewd as some suggest. Do we need McMenemy to boost crowds? I don't remember the corporate boxes being full to bursting the last time he played meet and greet for the club. If NC believes he will add something then I'll support him. Will you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 If NC believes he will add something then I'll support him. Will you? No, but I won't stop going as a result. McMenemy was like a carbuncle on this club in recent times and now it has been lanced I don't see the point in encouraging it to grow back IMO. Cortese like everyone else won't get it right 100% of the time but i would be surprised if he reversed the ticket paying policy because it works, end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Peter Kenyon is available. Shame AO is not being replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Why pamber to his churlishness and reward his dummy spitting? The McMenemy bridge has been burned IMO otherwise Cortese is not as shrewd as some suggest. Do we need McMenemy to boost crowds? I don't remember the corporate boxes being full to bursting the last time he played meet and greet for the club. Assuming Nicola reads this forum i wonder what his judgement would be on you. I would imagine he regards you and your warped views like the vast majority that post on here. Lawrie is manager that brought us good times and decent Saints fans hold him in high regard. Matt Le Tissier is a legend. A hero to all Saints fans. Leon Crouch wears his heart on his sleeve, made some mistakes, but everyone recognises that he cares passionately about Saints and that he is a good man. Yet you spend your pitiful life posting on here slagging all of the above mentioned people off. At the same time you worship the most hated man in the history of Southampton FC. So 19C what do you suppose Nicola's opinion would be of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 There were only 9 out of 43 boxes signposted, Flybe are the main sponsors, Cedar do the programmes, Sky speaks for itself, Draper Tools were a main sponsor, Paris Smith and Randall are the club's solicitors.that only leaves 4 independents. It may well be a ramping up of the commercial department to sell the corporate side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 From what I've been hearing this is a very good thing for the club, staff and fans. yes thats what i heard too. Glad to see that Nicola has seen through him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I had heard rumours that he had not been getting on with NC who I hear is a shrewd, tough cookie to deal with. He was appointed after NC rang the FA asking if they could recommend anyone for the position. He had nothing to do with the Swiss coming to the table. In a way I am personally a little saddened by the news because although he had a bad reputation with some of the staff I felt AO was a "football" man and also he showed a genuine interest in the history and traditions of the club when we held our one meeting on the future role for Hagiology and the club's 125th anniversary. That's what I was told too. Didnt take long for him to be found out. This is a good thing for the club if my info is correct, and i have no reason to doubt it. The only thing my source was wrong about is the timing, they said he'd be gone by April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I agree with Duncan but I am more worried than saddened but then I didn't know him personally. Sometimes if a director is disliked by some it's a sign he he is simply doing his job and sometimes it means he is doing it very well. Cortese seems very clever but we are left a bit exposed on the footballing side and a senior person who understands not just the business of football but the footballing culture in this country. To many outsiders at times it must feel like an acquired taste and I personally would have liked a major change like this to occur during the next close season. I'm sure it won't upset the apple cart but nonetheless a time for a modicum of caution than dismissiveness. I strongy believe this to be the opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 I'd like to see Franny back at the club in some capacity. He was a loyal servant and i think loyalty should be rewarded. Also he's a top man and i'm sure he'd be highly respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Nicola is a seasoned and experienced businessman, but lacks experience/contacts in dealing with football matters. So Oldknow is surplus to requirements, and if the mooted Director of Football arrives (this was talked down at the fans forum) there is no requirement for another executive manging the business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Oldknow has left, I am shocked, wow, truly, amazingly shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 From what I've been hearing this is a very good thing for the club, staff and fans. Ditto, also heard he made alot of money out of the club during that whole Exec fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Duncan, Are you able/allowed to tell us of any plans for next year ? e.g. Request a home game for that weekend (21st Nov) ?, a special Club Shirt with "125 year Badge" ? etc. Also are there any plans for the Norwich game this year (124 years) or will the focus be totally on 3 points that day ? John - in short No - now he has gone we are back to square 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Sometimes if a director is disliked by some it's a sign he he is simply doing his job and sometimes it means he is doing it very well. I'm sorry, but the victorian days of management have gone. If that ever happen at a company these days, talented staff would leave and the company would soon "go down the pan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 Oh dear thats your job gone then................. You really are a despicable turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 12 November, 2009 Share Posted 12 November, 2009 The Commercial department at Saints aren't that good to be honest - Andy Oldknow brought a different approach to things but had a tendency to upset people with his manner I expect someone who is better in both aspects will be brought in eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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