Bailey Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 I have it on good authority that Liverpool have put in a bid for Alex Chamberlain. I'm not certain on the exact figures, but I'm told the deal could surpass the £10m mark based on installments and future payments. Liverpool are looking to invest heavily in youth this summer. Expect bids for Phil Jones, Jordan Henderson and an £8m bid for Connor Wickham to all become public knowledge over the course of the summer. Just passing on what I've heard! For what it's worth, I don't think Chamberlain would go to Liverpool. If we do lose him this summer, I'd expect it to be to Man Utd or Arsenal. Admittedly I'm biased, but I still believe he's best off staying at Saints for at least another year. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 Take it and reduce the cost of tickets for the over 60s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 Take it and give it to me to spend, NA is clueless in the transfer meerkat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 Take it and give it to me to spend, NA is clueless in the transfer meerkat God your boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 he clearly didn't address the needs of the club in the January transfer window - in the 21 games following his only window, we gained 51 points, clearly he could have improved that return if he knew what he was doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 3 June, 2011 Share Posted 3 June, 2011 Expect bids for Phil Jones, Jordan Henderson and an £8m bid for Connor Wickham to all become public knowledge over the course of the summer. Just passing on what I've heard! You've been on Twitter, in other words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 4 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 June, 2011 You've been on Twitter, in other words. Not for me, although almost all my colleagues use it! Maybe I'll have to see what all the fuss is about. I'm only just coming to terms with Facebook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 I have it on good authority that Liverpool have put in a bid for Alex Chamberlain. I'm not certain on the exact figures, but I'm told the deal could surpass the £10m mark based on installments and future payments. Liverpool are looking to invest heavily in youth this summer. Expect bids for Phil Jones, Jordan Henderson and an £8m bid for Connor Wickham to all become public knowledge over the course of the summer. Just passing on what I've heard! For what it's worth, I don't think Chamberlain would go to Liverpool. If we do lose him this summer, I'd expect it to be to Man Utd or Arsenal. Admittedly I'm biased, but I still believe he's best off staying at Saints for at least another year. Thoughts? Steward or cab driver? I have it on excellent authority that no bid has been submitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancsaint Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Take it and reduce the cost of tickets for the over 60s! Oh! How I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Liverpool are looking to invest heavily in youth this summer. Expect bids for Phil Jones, Jordan Henderson and an £8m bid for Connor Wickham to all become public knowledge over the course of the summer. Aren't all of these "bids" already in the daily newspapers ? Don't have to be a recipient of inside knowledge to read the Sun and the Mirror really. When I was a paper boy in St Denys I was ITK insomuch as I got to read all the back pages before anyone else. In fact it developped my speed reading skills, I'd read all the back pages before I'd done half of my round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 As this thread is based on yet more b*llsh*t... Can we close it now please and get the OP to post his ramblings on the other b*llsh*t filled thread on the same subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Not really suprised - Think Liverpool are throwing bids around left, right and centre to test the water. Didn't their bid in January go straight into Cortese's bin?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 he clearly didn't address the needs of the club in the January transfer window - in the 21 games following his only window, we gained 51 points, clearly he could have improved that return if he knew what he was doing! maybe, but he quickly recognised that N'Guessen, Forte and Stephens weren't better than Pardew's signings so by and large he didn't play them. Jury still out on him in terms of his ability to sign talent in my book. Mind you January is never an easy window, so this summer and the season ahead will be the real acid test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Forte and Stephens both assisted in that run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Forte and Stephens both assisted in that run. From reading the original article on the OS it's fairly clear to me that Dale Stephens was ever only a stop-gap loan signing because Morgan was going to be out for a couple of months, Gobern had rather stupidly earned himself a 3 match suspension and Chaplow,who'd also had a couple of injury problems, and Deano both had a lot of cards to their respective names and were more than likely to get more because it seems to be a pre-requisite for CMs in League 1 where most of the opposition possess 5' 2" ginger rotweillers to be tamed. I can't see why so many people have attached so much importance to this "signing" it was a very temporary measure and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 he clearly didn't address the needs of the club in the January transfer window - in the 21 games following his only window, we gained 51 points, clearly he could have improved that return if he knew what he was doing! It beggars belief, folks moan when they don't hear anything out of St Marys from upstairs, then when something is said so many folks fail to listen. In January the club had identified players to bring in, but with all the rumour surrounding Chamberlain and the money he was allegedly going for, plus it was Southampton knocking on the door, those clubs inflated the price of the target player to above what he was worth in the clubs eyes. So quite sensibly we walked away: we may be in a very healthy position in the grand scheme of Football but with Nicola holding the purse we are not stupid with it. As for young Alex being sold, I think you may find that the defining factor in all of it will be, if him and his father think it is time to move on, that the buying club will have to pay the full amount, no instalments I can see that card being played very hard by Mr Cortese: which if true is very shrewd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 As for young Alex being sold, I think you may find that the defining factor in all of it will be, if him and his father think it is time to move on, that the buying club will have to pay the full amount, no instalments I can see that card being played very hard by Mr Cortese: which if true is very shrewd. If you believe what you read in the papers then Chamberlain senior seems to be desperate for a "big club" to buy Ox-C, trouble is I'm not at all convinced that any of them will be keen to part with the full asking price in one lump, doesn't happen all that often in today's football, not for sums like that for such a young player from a lower level. You may well read that X FC have agreed a transfer with Y Utd for a player at 15 million £ but it must be rare nowadays that all the money changes hands at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 A O-C would be bonkers going to Liverpool. Their star has completely waned in football over the last 20 years. If he has to go, it should be Manyoo or Arse. For at least 10m cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 It beggars belief, folks moan when they don't hear anything out of St Marys from upstairs, then when something is said so many folks fail to listen. In January the club had identified players to bring in, but with all the rumour surrounding Chamberlain and the money he was allegedly going for, plus it was Southampton knocking on the door, those clubs inflated the price of the target player to above what he was worth in the clubs eyes. So quite sensibly we walked away: we may be in a very healthy position in the grand scheme of Football but with Nicola holding the purse we are not stupid with it. As for young Alex being sold, I think you may find that the defining factor in all of it will be, if him and his father think it is time to move on, that the buying club will have to pay the full amount, no instalments I can see that card being played very hard by Mr Cortese: which if true is very shrewd. Woosh Of course you are correct, but somewhat missed the irony smiley in NickG's post by the tone of your opening sentence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 That did it. Alpines finally been knocked off top spot. im sure you are aware....GS has not posted a serious post since 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 I was told by a non club contact that the club owners are not interested in add ons. If Chamberlain goes it will be for up front money. Future money contributions from players sold do not figure in their business plans. It is all or nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 I was told by a non club contact that the club owners are not interested in add ons. If Chamberlain goes it will be for up front money. Future money contributions from players sold do not figure in their business plans. It is all or nothing. same story as was doing the rounds in January then, think it was linked to an imprending sale of the club at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 A O-C would be bonkers going to Liverpool. Their star has completely waned in football over the last 20 years. If he has to go, it should be Manyoo or Arse. For at least 10m cash. To be fair in the last 20 years they've won the Fa cup 3 times, the league cup 3 times, the charity shield twice, the UEFA cup, the champions league and the UEFA super cup twice and finished in the top 5 in the league about 19 times. FWIW I hope he stays with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 he clearly didn't address the needs of the club in the January transfer window - in the 21 games following his only window, we gained 51 points, clearly he could have improved that return if he knew what he was doing! He had a great 2nd half ofthe season but the payers he has brought in have not really been quality have they Nick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 maybe, but he quickly recognised that N'Guessen, Forte and Stephens weren't better than Pardew's signings so by and large he didn't play them. Jury still out on him in terms of his ability to sign talent in my book. Mind you January is never an easy window, so this summer and the season ahead will be the real acid test. So why bring in these three in the first place? This is the worry isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 He had a great 2nd half ofthe season but the payers he has brought in have not really been quality have they Nick? We didn't need first team players though. It was just about adding squad depth in the short term. It is hard to sign quality players that are prepared to sit on the bench, knowing full well that they'd be behind the likes of Lallana and Chamberlain. Hence why we signed players like N'Guessan who were happy to play second fiddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Can't see any mileage in this rumour. All the signs are he will be playing for Saints at the start of next season IMO, but hey things change I s'pose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Can't see any mileage in this rumour. All the signs are he will be playing for Saints at the start of next season IMO, but hey things change I s'pose. I do see mileage in the rumour personally. I don't think he'd sign for Liverpool though, so it doesn't matter. Comolli (sp?) watched Chamberlain on a number of ocassions last season, so it wouldn't be suprising if a bid was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 I do see mileage in the rumour personally. I don't think he'd sign for Liverpool though, so it doesn't matter. Comolli (sp?) watched Chamberlain on a number of ocassions last season, so it wouldn't be suprising if a bid was made. Similarly it wouldn't be surprising if their bid ends up in Cortese's waste bin again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 I was told by a non club contact that the club owners are not interested in add ons. If Chamberlain goes it will be for up front money. Future money contributions from players sold do not figure in their business plans. It is all or nothing. That seems like a strange decision, more upfront could mean that players move for a deal that is far less in total, or it could stop young talent coming here for fear they may become unbuyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWY Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Does anyone know what AOC's contract situation is? I think this will be the determining factor as to if he stays or goes. If we are serious about keeping him we should be negotiating a long term (5 year) contract with him. We can't expect him to stay here on less money than he can get elsewhere. I suspect he (his advisors) will not be interested in that. What we don't want is him leaving at the end of his contract for a development fee. If he has two years left on his current deal we have until Christmas to have it extended or we will have to let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Does anyone know what AOC's contract situation is? I think this will be the determining factor as to if he stays or goes. If we are serious about keeping him we should be negotiating a long term (5 year) contract with him. We can't expect him to stay here on less money than he can get elsewhere. I suspect he (his advisors) will not be interested in that. What we don't want is him leaving at the end of his contract for a development fee. If he has two years left on his current deal we have until Christmas to have it extended or we will have to let him go. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2128220,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 making his first team debut aged 16 years and 199 days with a late cameo against Huddersfield Town in a 5-0 win at the start of March 2010. He scored on his full first team debut at St. Mary's in a 2-0 win over AFC Bournemouth in the Carling Cup just days before his 17th birthday. There was more good news to come, as he followed that up by signing a three year professional contract with the Club a week later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWY Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Thanks Nick. So he basically has two seasons left. It will be a really tough call for the club. stick or twist? I've a feeling the club are waiting for a transfer request. It would probably cost him a cut of the transfer fee, so allowing the club to make more. It would also take the decision out of the clubs hands in the supporters eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Woosh Of course you are correct, but somewhat missed the irony smiley in NickG's post by the tone of your opening sentence... I saw the Red Arrows coming from a mile out:D There are still some however who will have missed the smiley and continue to wield the stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 making his first team debut aged 16 years and 199 days with a late cameo against Huddersfield Town in a 5-0 win at the start of March 2010. He scored on his full first team debut at St. Mary's in a 2-0 win over AFC Bournemouth in the Carling Cup just days before his 17th birthday. There was more good news to come, as he followed that up by signing a three year professional contract with the Club a week later. just to be clear that was copied from OS - not my words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 I'd rather play for Liverpool than Arsenal, at least Anfield has an atmosphere. Cant stand Arsenal, nice ground but full of boring cockney w@nkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 I'd rather play for Liverpool than Arsenal, at least Anfield has an atmosphere. Cant stand Arsenal, nice ground but full of boring cockney w@nkers. Anfield atmosphere is heavily overrated, yes for big European nights and when they play the big 4 it is decent. Wigan at home is not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 I was told by a non club contact that the club owners are not interested in add ons. If Chamberlain goes it will be for up front money. Future money contributions from players sold do not figure in their business plans. It is all or nothing. I expect a sell on added value clause. The big clubs still don't get it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 I am surprised Chamberlain is not playing for England this afternoon. I see that sprinter Walcott got a start, given a lot on here think Chamberlain has a better football brain than Walcott i am shocked Walcott has been prefered, sort it out Fabio FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bensfcno1 Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 To people knocking Adkins ability in the transfer market, I think Forte could be classed as one of our most important siging in recent years, considering his impact in the MK game alone. I dont think we would have finished second if we had lost that game, massive three points and even bigger for the confidence and psychology of the team for the run in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 I am surprised Chamberlain is not playing for England this afternoon. I see that sprinter Walcott got a start, given a lot on here think Chamberlain has a better football brain than Walcott i am shocked Walcott has been prefered, sort it out Fabio FFS. When Chamberlain is Walcott's age and playing for England he won't spend the game running up blind alleys like Theo does - the big difference between Chamberlain now and Walcott at 17 is decision making. I am not sure Theo's has got any better - as he ages and loses his pace it does make you wonder whether he will be able to re-invent himself as someone such as Giggs has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 When Chamberlain is Walcott's age and playing for England he won't spend the game running up blind alleys like Theo does - the big difference between Chamberlain now and Walcott at 17 is decision making. I am not sure Theo's has got any better - as he ages and loses his pace it does make you wonder whether he will be able to re-invent himself as someone such as Giggs has done. Absolutely spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 When Chamberlain is Walcott's age and playing for England he won't spend the game running up blind alleys like Theo does - the big difference between Chamberlain now and Walcott at 17 is decision making. I am not sure Theo's has got any better - as he ages and loses his pace it does make you wonder whether he will be able to re-invent himself as someone such as Giggs has done. It's so easy to compare when one is playing international and champions league football and the other has spent the season decision making against Dagenham and Redbridge, Wallsall and Oldhams left backs isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 It's so easy to compare when one is playing international and champions league football and the other has spent the season decision making against Dagenham and Redbridge, Wallsall and Oldhams left backs isn't it. You need to re-read my post - the clue is in comparing them at 17. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 sorry, you cant compare the two...until OxO has played and played well against some of the world best players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 sorry, you cant compare the two...until OxO has played and played well against some of the world best players Agreed but it is perfectly valid to compare both at 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 Agreed but it is perfectly valid to compare both at 17. even at 17, theo played very well against better players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 4 June, 2011 Share Posted 4 June, 2011 even at 17, theo played very well against better players I didn't say he didn't play well. Sometimes when you see a young player you just know that he has got it (and so do the likes of Arsenal, Man Utd etc) such as Theo, Bale, Oxo. It is fairly obvious to me that Oxo's decision making at 17 is better than Theo's was at 17 - this actually has nothing to do with the quality of the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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