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Is sacking Nigel Adkins today the correct decision?  

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  1. 1. Is sacking Nigel Adkins today the correct decision?


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gjphilsaint

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I was there at Milton Keynes when Nige took his first game. He emerged from the tunnel to a very mild ripple of applause from our supporters. We were in the bottom 3 of League 1 by the end of that game. Today, he is removed and this is met with consternation and disbelief. He has lead us to consecutive promotions, during which he established SMS into a fortress, creating a new record in straight wins at home! Also we are above the relegation zone...so whatever happens next Nigel knows that he can hold his head high. The new manager has a lot to live up to. Thank you Nigel Adkins for what you have done to Southampton FC, Iam sure that you will get another appointment and you will once again lead another club to glory.

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The9

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Apart from his last club, who sacked him after he took them to the foot of the table.

 

After they'd sold all of his players for under him for 2 years, Coventry-style. I don't have a problem with who has been appointed, just that it's happened at all.

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kpturner

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Its really not hard. You have a press conference with Cortese explaining his actions. Deal with the sacking. Then Cortese leaves and new manager tasks to press.
He has explained already in the OS statement. Do you really think he would have said anything else? What would you have liked him to say that would have satisfied you?
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alpine_saint

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you believe that? a grown man being escorted away from the stadium...?

 

 

Yes I do. Didnt Lowe like doing that ? The BBC are also saying NA was caught completely unawares by todays events. Maybe he knew it was coming somewhen, but probably thought it would be the end of the season and that drawing at Chelsea had won him a repreive until then too.

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Didcot Saint

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Working late shifts at the moment, and only just found out. :scared:

 

Not had much sleep, so wasn't really with it when I got up. Just logged on to see if Forren had signed, and instead see the headline topic "Adkins SACKED!!!".

 

My first thought was that this was some kind of sick joke or 'wummery'. Second thought, I must still be asleep! This is just some f*cking bizarre dream, and any moment now, I'm going to wake up, and everything will be ok. :)

 

I checked the newsnow site, and the torrent of confirmation hit me full in the face.

 

No more Nigel Adkins. :(

 

Can't believe this. Finished reading through this thread, and still not recovered from my shock. Feels like I've just lost a close friend. :(

 

Nigel Adkins. A man of relentless enthusism. A rare breath of fresh air, in a modern football world choked by the thick suffocating smog of high finance and dream chasing. A true and genuine gentleman of the modern game, who brought back that elusive 'feeel good factor' to the Club that I love. A really decent, honourable man, whose sheer enthusiasm and positivity for our Club, brought us the closest thing to a 'united fanbase' we've known for a very long time.

 

It has been my absolute pleasure to have such a man as Nigel Adkins managing my Club, and the manner and timing of his ruthless departure leaves a bitter, sour after-taste, accompanied by a feeling of thorough dejection and disenchantment.

 

Today is the day that will be looked back upon, as the one where all the momentum and feelgood factor was sucked out of the Club that we love.

 

Thanks for everything Nigel. Please know that you were truly appreciated and loved by us.

 

 

Absolutely gutted. :(

Post of the day. Well done, you summed it up perfectly. A sad day.

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stug76

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Loved Neil Atkins, saints legend, no doubt. Have Saints been excellent this year - not really. I think we would have stayed up with NA but that doesn't seem to be good enough. For me, that's exciting. The level of players that we have been linked to, the money that is being spent all suggest that all the talk of us competing at the top end of the Premier League hasn't been throwaway comments. I'm starting to believe that's where we are heading.

 

Love Mauricio Pochettino, sounds like a great addition to the Saints. Love teams with energy, pressing, passing out from the back. Onwards and upwards.

 

Of course, good luck Nige ;-)

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CanadaSaint

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What a load of sycophantic, suffocating b.rollicks. You move on if you like matey, I won't be the only one shipping out. Where were you in 48/49 against WBA when we needed you most. Enjoy your prawn sandwiches....

 

That from the guy who posted this in December:

 

Two more point down the drain, how much longer can this farcical situation continue before Adkins is put out of his misery? There are no positives when you're chasing 40 points, at this rate we won't even get 20.

 

 

I'm afraid the "Going down" taunt applies more realistically every week. If we are going to change the coaching people let's get on a FFFing well do it and at least give the new people a fighting chance of keeping us up. Indecision is ruining us. Come on Cortese sort put your mess!

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Andy Durman

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NC is a visionary. This is a very sad day and I am just as disappointed as anybody, however NC has a dream and a plan. Lets get behind the new Boss and put the club before any one person.

 

I'm sure NA has been very well looked after with a golden handshake although money isn't everything and NA must feel terrible at the moment. He is one fantastic guy and he leaves with his head held high and a fantastic CV.

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Lallana's Left Peg

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Well I only get 3 posts a day so I may as well use one to cover everything. Was angry earlier in the day but now the dust has settled a bit I am thinking a bit more rationally.

 

I'm absolutely gutted for Adkins - he deserved far better treatment. The journey he has led the team on for the past few years has been epic and a joy to be a part of. We're back in the Premier League far quicker than even Cortese planned to be and as a result he has seen the end of his tenure. We'll never know for how long Cortese planned to keep Adkins once we got back to the Premier League but I suspect the succession planning started the moment we got promoted.

 

I doubt we'll ever hear from Adkins, I imagine he has a decent severance package and a part of that will be to keep his mouth shut.

 

For what it is worth I think Pochettino seems a good appointment, and if you detach the way Adkins has gone, I think he has decent credentials for the club. He seems a good 'fit' however the massive concern in the short-term is the impact this has on our Premier League survival. If you consider he has in the past rejected Fiorentina and Valencia and been linked with the Real Madrid job, as well as rejecting several opportunities since November, it appears to be a bit of a coup for the club.

 

A few other observations:

 

1. It feels disgusting for Adkins to be replaced instantly, but lets face it, we'd be up in arms if Adkins went and no-one was lined up. At least (scant consolation I know) the club knew who they wanted beforehand.

 

2. We've picked up some more points recently but there has definitely been a departure from the 'Southampton Way'. It seems quite clear that the Cortese Brief has Saints playing a certain style and a certain formation. Adkins has gone away from this (quite rightly) and now I would assume we're heading back to it.

 

3. Adkins will always be remembered and the way he has been replaced is pathetic but I don't think Cortese would do it if he thought it would harm our long-term prospects. Cortese may have some strange behaviours but he was proved right when he appointed Adkins and I hope he is proved right again.

 

4. I sincerely hope any frustration at Adkins going is done in a way that doesn't impact the new Manager or team as that is the last thing we can afford.

 

5. A Manager of Pochettino's stature won't want to manage in the Championship - would love to know what makes Cortese so sure we'll avoid relegation with the disruption of his appointment.

 

6. Considering Pochettino speaks pigeon English I thought he acquitted himself very well in his press conference and interview - and I am excited to see what impact he can have on the team.

 

So on the one hand I am gutted and full of regret that Adkins didn't at least have the season, but on the other if you detach the fondness for Adkins and disrespectful way he has been replaced I think Pochettino is a potentially exciting appointment on the long-term. Now just for the nervous last 4 months of the season as we effectively start again. Survive and it will be a very interesting summer. Go down and all hell could break loose.

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Shroppie

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Well I only get 3 posts a day so I may as well use one to cover everything. Was angry earlier in the day but now the dust has settled a bit I am thinking a bit more rationally.

 

I'm absolutely gutted for Adkins - he deserved far better treatment. The journey he has led the team on for the past few years has been epic and a joy to be a part of. We're back in the Premier League far quicker than even Cortese planned to be and as a result he has seen the end of his tenure. We'll never know for how long Cortese planned to keep Adkins once we got back to the Premier League but I suspect the succession planning started the moment we got promoted.

 

I doubt we'll ever hear from Adkins, I imagine he has a decent severance package and a part of that will be to keep his mouth shut.

 

For what it is worth I think Pochettino seems a good appointment, and if you detach the way Adkins has gone, I think he has decent credentials for the club. He seems a good 'fit' however the massive concern in the short-term is the impact this has on our Premier League survival. If you consider he has in the past rejected Fiorentina and Valencia and been linked with the Real Madrid job, as well as rejecting several opportunities since November, it appears to be a bit of a coup for the club.

 

A few other observations:

 

1. It feels disgusting for Adkins to be replaced instantly, but lets face it, we'd be up in arms if Adkins went and no-one was lined up. At least (scant consolation I know) the club knew who they wanted beforehand.

 

2. We've picked up some more points recently but there has definitely been a departure from the 'Southampton Way'. It seems quite clear that the Cortese Brief has Saints playing a certain style and a certain formation. Adkins has gone away from this (quite rightly) and now I would assume we're heading back to it.

 

3. Adkins will always be remembered and the way he has been replaced is pathetic but I don't think Cortese would do it if he thought it would harm our long-term prospects. Cortese may have some strange behaviours but he was proved right when he appointed Adkins and I hope he is proved right again.

 

4. I sincerely hope any frustration at Adkins going is done in a way that doesn't impact the new Manager or team as that is the last thing we can afford.

 

5. A Manager of Pochettino's stature won't want to manage in the Championship - would love to know what makes Cortese so sure we'll avoid relegation with the disruption of his appointment.

 

6. Considering Pochettino speaks pigeon English I thought he acquitted himself very well in his press conference and interview - and I am excited to see what impact he can have on the team.

 

So on the one hand I am gutted and full of regret that Adkins didn't at least have the season, but on the other if you detach the fondness for Adkins and disrespectful way he has been replaced I think Pochettino is a potentially exciting appointment on the long-term. Now just for the nervous last 4 months of the season as we effectively start again. Survive and it will be a very interesting summer. Go down and all hell could break loose.

 

Very well put.

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GAS

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The timing is very odd. I strongly feel NA was the man to keep us in the premiership this year, the team have really started to look good and well organised. This appointment is basically gambling with our premiership status and should not have been made now.

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Fitzhugh Fella

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You were very aware Duncan that Nicola was trying to replace Nigel as early as our NPC season so I know you realise how ludicrous the timing of this is.

 

 

I was and tried to tell folk on here, but this forum just shoots messengers.

Nigel will be relieved in my opinion - he wanted out and he wanted out with a decent CV, he's got that and some. Good Luck to him - smashing fella.

My biggest worry is this new chap, talented and highly thought of he maybe but he is new to the Prem, new to the country and he does not speak English, not really what a team needs when they are in a scrap to stay up.

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Thedelldays

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This is a huge gamble by Cortese. He has made Saints look ridiculous across the footballing world. His behaviour is tawdry and shabby. I feel that I and Saints history have nothing in common with such an unprincipled man.

oh behave....football is full of people like this...and we have had them too

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colehillsaint

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I was and tried to tell folk on here, but this forum just shoots messengers.

Nigel will be relieved in my opinion - he wanted out and he wanted out with a decent CV, he's got that and some. Good Luck to him - smashing fella.

My biggest worry is this new chap, talented and highly thought of he maybe but he is new to the Prem, new to the country and he does not speak English, not really what a team needs when they are in a scrap to stay up.

 

Thats interesting, about it being quite convenient for Nigel really. You have probably forgotten more about the club than I know, but that is how it seems to me. He has a great opportunity to move forward if he considers his next move carefully. I don't feel sorry for him. More for us. I think NC has gambled like he is backed with unlimited funds, and I don't see why that is the case. Why would the Liebherr's want to plough vast amounts in to us?

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pap

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We're in the Premiership now. The only way is down.

 

Yeah, but people were saying we wouldn't be promoted after the news broke. People are saying we'll get relegated now.

 

No-one knows, but it turned out alright last time.

 

Personally, I'm not relegating us just yet. Adkins got us where we are, no doubt. Automatic promotion from League One was an amazing achievement, as was the successive promotion to the Prem. However, we should have won that league last year, and West Ham, supposedly a worse team, have made a brighter start to life in the Prem.

 

In hindsight, it seems there has been tension for quite a while. Remember his "parting of the ways" slip-up after the Coventry game which secured automatic promotion?

 

Quite a few of us thought that was dodgy at the time, and anyone suggesting friction has got an earful for their trouble.

 

Is the decision totally shocking? No, and people have short memories. Was only a couple of months ago that many were saying he was out of his depth. Fair to say that both he and the team have learned to swim in Premiership waters. Hand on heart though, I can never really call our games this season. There are games that I think we can theoretically win, but I'm never confident of victory this season. Each one is a bonus.

 

One swallow does not make a summer, and while I'm proud of some our recent results, there have been a ton of missed opportunities, in respect of our play and our results. Long term Saints fans are used to snatching a draw from the jaws of victory. Maybe we make allowances for that. NC clearly doesn't.

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nick1579

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Saints have provoked many emotions in me over the years but this is the first time I've experienced shame.

 

Ditto.

 

One of the comments on the BBC site today hit home when someone said they used to see us as a loyal club (likes of Le Tiss) but now they hope we go down.

 

That hurt.

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