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@tancredipalmeri surely not Damiao and Gomez? Damiao a back up?

 

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.@SaintsFCFans you know, clubs play on different tables when they are not particularly outbidding the competitors

 

It's basically saying 'Murray wins his semi match.'

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If Napoli are genuinely interested and have made Damiao's agent aware then we won't stand a chance of competing against them, on a few different levels. Champions League Football, wages, signing on fee, agent's fee, top class manager, lifestyle etc.

 

We'll only get him if we're the only option available IMO.

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If Napoli are genuinely interested and have made Damiao's agent aware then we won't stand a chance of competing against them, on a few different levels. Champions League Football, wages, signing on fee, agent's fee, top class manager, lifestyle etc.

 

We'll only get him if we're the only option available IMO.

 

Or get him to sign on our dotted line as soon as possible before he has a chance to realise he's made a mistake.

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If Napoli are genuinely interested and have made Damiao's agent aware then we won't stand a chance of competing against them, on a few different levels. Champions League Football, wages, signing on fee, agent's fee, top class manager, lifestyle etc.

 

We'll only get him if we're the only option available IMO.

 

Intl strikers like Damiao will always have more than one option and Im sure Saints are well aware of that!

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I know its yet ANOTHER YouTube video but this shows his all round game. Looks to me like the closest, genuine, most like for like replacement for Lambert we've been linked with. Judging by this video and the other videos, he looks a perfect match for our style of play.

 

Scores goals, good in the air, holds up play, pace and power. Perfect.

 

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I know its yet ANOTHER YouTube video but this shows his all round game. Looks to me like the closest, genuine, most like for like replacement for Lambert we've been linked with. Judging by this video and the other videos, he looks a perfect match for our style of play.

 

Scores goals, good in the air, holds up play, pace and power. Perfect.

 

 

Is it just me, or is the standard of defending and goalkeeping absolutely horrific in this video?

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Is it just me, or is the standard of defending and goalkeeping absolutely horrific in this video?

 

Agree with this. I'm really struggling to see how someone playing against defences like that is worth 25 million euros.

 

The majority of goals are scored due to poor defending. Highlights of a striker's youtube "best bits" are unlikely to show top class defending.

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The majority of goals are scored due to poor defending. Highlights of a striker's youtube "best bits" are unlikely to show top class defending.

 

So are you saying most of the goals we conceded last season were down to defensive errors?

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Hard to monitor every Wiki page 24/7.

 

True! Personally I think it's a pipe dream why would he come here? But the same was said about gaston and he signed because "they are paying me a lot of money!"

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Looks a bit too good for us from the videos to be honest! Dell sized mentality, I know.

 

Could we really compete with the amount in wages this guy is probably going to want? His mates in the national team are all on huge money at Chelsea, Barcelona, Real Madrid etc. Will he be content with our lower wages? Or are we going all Pompey now, paying crazy wages and going all out for the top?

 

I'd love to have a chat with Cortese about what his plan really is. He seems absolutely crazed on big success. It's pretty exciting, could fail miserably though!

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He 'might' come here as we are one of only a few clubs in the world getting close to meeting the asking price. He might come here if he wants improved wages, and a chance to play in Europe. He won't come here if he's happy to wait for a better offer.

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Of course it is ffs! :D

 

No, it's not. Failing, for example, to pull off an utterly incredible last ditch clearance off the line - the sort of clearance that could only be achieved by the very best of defenders in the world - does not constitute a "defensive error". Nor does failing to save a well taken penalty - just because the very best goalkeeper in the world might just have saved it.

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No, it's not. Failing, for example, to pull off an utterly incredible last ditch clearance off the line - the sort of clearance that could only be achieved by the very best of defenders in the world - does not constitute a "defensive error". Nor does failing to save a well taken penalty - just because the very best goalkeeper in the world might just have saved it.

 

Oh yes it is. Its not the "utterly incredible last ditch clearance" we are talking about here, its tackling the man who makes the pass to the man who makes the pass to the man who makes the run/shot that requires the "utterly incredible last ditch clearance" we are talking about here. Or getting the tackle in 30 yards from goasl instead of standing off and letting the man make the run that forces the penalty.

 

Of course it isn't spectacular like the "utterly incredible last ditch clearance" but its what saves heaps more goals nad its what makes good defending.

 

Borign but true.

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Why does it say saints is his current club on wiki? Wishful thinking I think!

Because someone with the IP address 86.9.15.225 on Virgin Media thought it would be funny to edit the wiki page at 10.42 this morning. The Moderators will no doubt undo this edit soon. Really don't see why people still think its funny to edit wiki pages, these sort of edits are always spotted and undone, you need to not only edit the page but provide backup for the edits before they are accepted.

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Because someone with the IP address 86.9.15.225 on Virgin Media thought it would be funny to edit the wiki page at 10.42 this morning.

 

From the dodgy flats on the junction of Orchard Lane and King Street in Soton. If people knew how much was easily traceable they probably wouldn't do it.

http://goo.gl/maps/t7QpV

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Yep, same again.

 

I don't see why you find the idea so surprising. Why do you think teams with better defenders concede fewer goals?

 

So you're saying teams shouldn't buy decent strikers or creative players, just buy good defenders because they will score goals anyway due to defensive errors, yes?

 

Ramirez and Rodriguez was a waste of money and so will daiamo, yes?

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Oh yes it is. Its not the "utterly incredible last ditch clearance" we are talking about here, its tackling the man who makes the pass to the man who makes the pass to the man who makes the run/shot that requires the "utterly incredible last ditch clearance" we are talking about here. Or getting the tackle in 30 yards from goasl instead of standing off and letting the man make the run that forces the penalty.

 

Of course it isn't spectacular like the "utterly incredible last ditch clearance" but its what saves heaps more goals nad its what makes good defending.

 

Borign but true.

 

Nah, not really.

 

Clearly, Man Utd concede less goals than Saints because they have a better defence.

 

But the difference isn't simply "defensive errors"

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So you're saying teams shouldn't buy decent strikers or creative players, just buy good defenders because they will score goals anyway due to defensive errors, yes?

 

Ramirez and Rodriguez was a waste of money and so will daiamo, yes?

 

That clearly isn't the point he is making.

 

After a game, you must have heard a losing manager say "we should have defended better for the goals". Whereas the winning manager will say, "our movement/set piece/skill for the goal was outstanding". It's just a case of perspective.

 

If a good striker nutmegs a centre back is that good skill from him or a **** up from the defender? Depends which way you look at it doesn't it? Nobody on this forum would ever say, "what great skill from that Chelsea player to put it through Danny Fox's legs", just as we would never say "that was poor by that United defender that got skinned by Lallana". We would say it was poor defending by fox and great skill by Lallana.

 

Therefore, you could argue that every time a player beats another player it is because of poor play, just as much as you could say it was good play.

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That clearly isn't the point he is making.

 

After a game, you must have heard a losing manager say "we should have defended better for the goals". Whereas the winning manager will say, "our movement/set piece/skill for the goal was outstanding". It's just a case of perspective.

 

If a good striker nutmegs a centre back is that good skill from him or a **** up from the defender? Depends which way you look at it doesn't it? Nobody on this forum would ever say, "what great skill from that Chelsea player to put it through Danny Fox's legs", just as we would never say "that was poor by that United defender that got skinned by Lallana". We would say it was poor defending by fox and great skill by Lallana.

 

Therefore, you could argue that every time a player beats another player it is because of poor play, just as much as you could say it was good play.

 

He said most goals we scored and conceded last season came from from defensive errors. So from his perspective signing strikers better than we have is pointless as we'll score anyway from errors, therefore from his perspective we should sign the best defenders we can.

 

Hope that helps.

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He said most goals we scored and conceded last season came from from defensive errors. So from his perspective signing strikers better than we have is pointless as we'll score anyway from errors, therefore from his perspective we should sign the best defenders we can.

 

Hope that helps.

 

No need to end on the sarcastic comment mate, just trying to have a conversation.

 

Wouldn't you agree that better strikers are more likely to punish small defensive errors?

 

The general point is that better players make fewer mistakes, and are also able to punish opposition mistakes more harshly. They are also able to push the opposition into mistakes. For every goal scored you could either say, "good play by the striker" or "defender could have done better". Both can be true as these aren't mutually exclusive.

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surely Napoli have to sell Cavani first? Which hasn't happened.

 

hasn't it ? Money is as good as in the bank, PSG do not mess about over a couple of bob. 64 million € and he's theirs. Probably be finalised Monday. Petrol and Diesel will probably go up a couple of pence a litre though.:rolleyes:

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No need to end on the sarcastic comment mate, just trying to have a conversation.

 

Wouldn't you agree that better strikers are more likely to punish small defensive errors?

 

The general point is that better players make fewer mistakes, and are also able to punish opposition mistakes more harshly. They are also able to push the opposition into mistakes. For every goal scored you could either say, "good play by the striker" or "defender could have done better". Both can be true as these aren't mutually exclusive.

 

And the better striker will take chances a not so good one won't, he'll make runs, find space, be able to position himself and finish difficult chances, similarly better creative player will create chances a not so creative player won't, make runs others can't etc. to say the vast majority of goals come because of errors is the usual MLG nonsense. Some do, some come from good attacking play and some come from your perspective as you rightly say.

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Seems like Napoli is trying to hijack Gotze from fiorentina that he supposedly has chosen...

 

http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/napoli-rilancio-per-mario-gomez-fiorentina-su-yilmaz/

 

Naples, revival for Mario Gomez. Fiorentina Yilmaz

 

The Napoli sling on Mario Gomez. It 'a story of Manuel Baiocchini. The company blue would be pressing for the German striker, although the sporting director of Bayern Monaco has revealed that the player has chosen Florence. If the offer of Naples were, however, shake Gomez, Fiorentina have already decided who to bet. It's Burak Yilmaz, Galatasaray striker. Have been proposed 5-year contract to 3 million plus 500,000 bonus. The Turkish company asks 15 million and is not willing to make concessions, but Fiorentina will try to lower the cost. All this, if Gomez will choose Naples.

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That clearly isn't the point he is making.

 

After a game, you must have heard a losing manager say "we should have defended better for the goals". Whereas the winning manager will say, "our movement/set piece/skill for the goal was outstanding". It's just a case of perspective.

 

If a good striker nutmegs a centre back is that good skill from him or a **** up from the defender? Depends which way you look at it doesn't it? Nobody on this forum would ever say, "what great skill from that Chelsea player to put it through Danny Fox's legs", just as we would never say "that was poor by that United defender that got skinned by Lallana". We would say it was poor defending by fox and great skill by Lallana.

 

Therefore, you could argue that every time a player beats another player it is because of poor play, just as much as you could say it was good play.

 

We should sticky this post when the season starts.

 

This is also exactly why people act like the big team must have screwed up when a little team outplays them - because people are watching the game from the big team's perspective. It's Chelsea vs the opposition rather than Chelsea vs Southampton, to an extent.

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