angelman Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2384588/Wigan-want-sign-Southampton-forward-Emmanuel-Mayuka-loan.html Can't see this happening unless we sign another striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Thats a strange one, but I wouldn't be astonished if it happened. Extra playing time in the championship, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 4 August, 2013 Share Posted 4 August, 2013 Alan Nixon, who is close friends with Owen Coyle, has reported the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Which championship club wouldn't want to take the worlds 85th best player on loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 I would say a 3 month loan would be ideal give him some regular football, hopefully score 4-5 goals in 10-12 games, come back confident and fit, which can hopefully help his development long term, and were gain from this 2nd half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 I would say a 3 month loan would be ideal give him some regular football, hopefully score 4-5 goals in 10-12 games, come back confident and fit, which can hopefully help his development long term, and were gain from this 2nd half of the season. Sounds all too football manager to me. He would have to get into the team first, settle and score goals immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Provided we sign a striker, then yes please. Seen nothing from him yet to rate him as 85th best etc. longer term hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Think we'd be best cashing in while he still has some resale value. Not a prem striker imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Get rid as long as we bring in soneone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Sounds a good idea to me as he clearly needs competitive playing time and Wigan play some nice stuff ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 If true then Wigan wouldnt be too shabby a place to go under a decent manager as well, Coyle seemed to get Daniel Sturridge firing on all cylinders. Mayuka just needs game time, and going on the questions about formations and the like he was asking Jos when sat behind me at the Llagostera game he needs just a little guidance too. He is still only a youngster in the grand scheme of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 5 August, 2013 Author Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Agree that Wigan wouldn't be too shabby a place to go, but wonder whether it might be more to do with squad rotation what with their participation in the Europa Cup. [when is the Europa Cup format being changed?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 I wont say I told you so but I did, another ****e Cortese signing, this combo of Leslie and Nicky buying is akin to a child buying at a weapons defence seminar................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 I wont say I told you so but I did, another ****e Cortese signing, this combo of Leslie and Nicky buying is akin to a child buying at a weapons defence seminar................... Clearly don't know what they are doing. To be honest the club hasn't improved under them... Or have we moved forward every transfer window since they arrived? If they are clueless god help the other 91 clubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2384588/Wigan-want-sign-Southampton-forward-Emmanuel-Mayuka-loan.html Can't see this happening unless we sign another striker. Whilst we all hope that striker is Damiao, I suppose it's arguable that it could be Scott Sinclair to replace Mayuka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Took a chance on Mayuka, I certainly havnt seen enough of him TBH but the little I have seen I havn't been overly impressed TBH. Hopefully a spell on loan will do him good and we will see why he has generated a decent name for himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Seesm highly unlikely when we are already short in this department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Seesm highly unlikely when we are already short in this department. That hasn't prevented us in loaning out players who havn't been seen as good enough before even when we lack depth in the position. Seaborne and Martin being loaned out last year for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Seesm highly unlikely when we are already short in this department. Pretty confident he wont move without replacements. Though from what I have seen of Isgrove he looks v good and confident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1971 Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Can we have McManaman in exchange please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Pretty confident he wont move without replacements. Though from what I have seen of Isgrove he looks v good and confident I also think Isgrove could step up, but am worried that if he gets smacked up by the wrong big hairy-arsed central defender, he might take a massive step backwards in the confidence department. He is not a season-long solution at this time, I think. Really frustrating that we seem to struggle to capture our target players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 I also think Isgrove could step up, but am worried that if he gets smacked up by the wrong big hairy-arsed central defender, he might take a massive step backwards in the confidence department. He is not a season-long solution at this time, I think. Really frustrating that we seem to struggle to capture our target players. At the risk of taking the thread off topic, it's probably due to the types of player we are going for. We cannot offer European football or instant glory, only a vision for the future. For many of the targets we are looking at that will put them off. A Brazilian international like Damiao being linked here rather then the likes of Spurs or one of the bigger Italian teams could be considered a reality check. I hope Isgrove can make it. Memories of that pre-season game v Kettering a few years ago stick with me, he was easily the best player on the park. So pleased to see him progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Took a chance on Mayuka, I certainly havnt seen enough of him TBH but the little I have seen I havn't been overly impressed TBH. Hopefully a spell on loan will do him good and we will see why he has generated a decent name for himself We took a chance on Forren and Ramirez as well................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 We took a chance on Forren and Ramirez as well................. He may still deliver. Looking back at the goals DVD of last year it's easy to forget his contribution at times. He was important for us last year and will hopefully build on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 I also think Isgrove could step up, but am worried that if he gets smacked up by the wrong big hairy-arsed central defender, he might take a massive step backwards in the confidence department. He is not a season-long solution at this time, I think. Really frustrating that we seem to struggle to capture our target players. What surprised me about Isgrove - who has impressed me both times I've seen him feature - is that he only got a one year deal when Chambers, Stephens and others got 4. Even Gape and Rowe, who aren't close to the first XI yet, got 2 year deals I think. Anyone ITK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Can we have McManaman in exchange please. I heard someone reel off a list of names that they have in their squad. They've still got some very talented players left up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 What surprised me about Isgrove - who has impressed me both times I've seen him feature - is that he only got a one year deal when Chambers, Stephens and others got 4. Even Gape and Rowe, who aren't close to the first XI yet, got 2 year deals I think. Anyone ITK? I can only think his stature plays against him. He's as strong as an ox, but not particularly tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Exactly what he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 What surprised me about Isgrove - who has impressed me both times I've seen him feature - is that he only got a one year deal when Chambers, Stephens and others got 4. Even Gape and Rowe, who aren't close to the first XI yet, got 2 year deals I think. Anyone ITK? I thought this too, but maybe it is his age - he's 20 when compared to the others who are 17/18. I know that is still ridiculously young and we only have to look at someone like Callum McManaman who broke into Wigan first team, aged 21, but there could be a feeling among the Saints management team that he needs to start demonstrating his potential very soon and that a longer-term contract would be too much of a risk if he fails to achieve. I think he had a few injury problems last season so they might be mindful of that as well. No doubt that Cortese will sign him up for a long-term deal if he starts performing regularly in the Prem, he has always been pro-active in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 Can we have McManaman in exchange please. sfc1971 speaks for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 5 August, 2013 Share Posted 5 August, 2013 I wont say I told you so but I did, another ****e Cortese signing, this combo of Leslie and Nicky buying is akin to a child buying at a weapons defence seminar................... You've never successfully told anyone, anything, ever, unless we are counting BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Let him go. I still don't understand why Saints ever signed him. I'd rather see Sharp given a chance in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 I really want to see Mayuka come good, but being honest, on what I have seen so far I don't think he has the positional nous to make it in this league. Shame but was a good risk to take on him as he came so highly rated after the African tourney. Loan him to Wigan or other passing footie team is a good shout, then we have the option of having him back if he can figure his game out and regularly get amongst the goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 You've never successfully told anyone, anything, ever, unless we are counting BS. this. On topic though, I would like to see Mayuka given a bigger chance this season as think he could become a good player but obviously if we do sign another his chances will be even more limited than last year. If that is the case I definitely think a loan to a team like Wigan would be a good move for all concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Another notch for the realists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Really frustrating that we seem to struggle to capture our target players. I know we have been over this a thousand times, but don't nearly all teams have difficulties prizing away decent players from other clubs at the price they want to pay? I mean there's a small side in Madrid that seem to be having a little spot of bother getting that Bale kid. All very frustrating I imagine. Why don't thy just give Spurs whatever they want and just be done with it? If the two clubs valuation of a player match then deals have a chance as they did with our targets Lovren and Wanyama. besides, these signings show that we don't always struggle to capture are targeted players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Can we have McManaman in exchange please. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Lots of hype over McManaman because he's quick, runs at players. Didn't necessarily see a lot of football brain last year in some of the stuff he did, lots of running for the sake of it. He'll learn though I'm sure, clearly a good player, but I think another season of NPC football will be a better bet for him. Ince is a much better player fwiw, and he's not even ''amazingly'' good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 I know we have been over this a thousand times, but don't nearly all teams have difficulties prizing away decent players from other clubs at the price they want to pay? I mean there's a small side in Madrid that seem to be having a little spot of bother getting that Bale kid. All very frustrating I imagine. Why don't thy just give Spurs whatever they want and just be done with it? If the two clubs valuation of a player match then deals have a chance as they did with our targets Lovren and Wanyama. besides, these signings show that we don't always struggle to capture are targeted players. Were they our first choice targets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 No thanks. Would love McManaman or McCarthy, even better both. REALISTIC SIGNINGS NOT MOONBEAMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Would love McManaman or McCarthy, even better both. REALISTIC SIGNINGS NOT MOONBEAMS. Why would we need McCarthy? Does he replace Morgan, Cork or Wanyama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Were they our first choice targets? how would I know? We got them quite early in the window, so that might suggest yes, but I think the term `targets' was used by Alpine rather than `first choice targets'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 No thanks. care to expand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Why would we need McCarthy? Does he replace Morgan, Cork or Wanyama? NO he makes our squad stronger so we can rotate and go and field a 1st team in a Cup for a change, novel idea I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Hang on, Barry, do you not rate the clubs transfer dealings? This is totally new information to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Hang on, Barry, do you not rate the clubs transfer dealings? This is totally new information to me. Lovren like all other posters on here simply dont know so reserved but Lyon wanted shot of him and other larger clubs did not officially bid so make up your own mind, Wanyama is a good signing but we did get our pants pulled down over the price. We are tight when we shouldn't be and get ripped off when we shouldn't be. Mayuka Lee Ramirez Wanyama Forren The list ever grows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Lovren like all other posters on here simply dont know so reserved but Lyon wanted shot of him and other larger clubs did not officially bid so make up your own mind, that worries me also. It seemed a lot of money for a player they didn't seem to rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Lovren like all other posters on here simply dont know so reserved but Lyon wanted shot of him and other larger clubs did not officially bid so make up your own mind, Wanyama is a good signing but we did get our pants pulled down over the price. We are tight when we shouldn't be and get ripped off when we shouldn't be. Mayuka Lee Ramirez Wanyama Forren The list ever grows. Add Schneiderlin to that list! We paid £1.2million for him (a lot of money for us at the time) he wasn't great in his first season, therefore we were definitely ripped off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Also we got Lee on a free so not sure how we were 'ripped off' on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 7 August, 2013 Share Posted 7 August, 2013 Also we got Lee on a free so not sure how we were 'ripped off' on that one. How much were his wages? Was he playing for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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