9-3 Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Thought he had a good game today. Lots of talking to players throughout match. Very precise in decisions. Female assistant referee also had a good game, assisted at a few matches at St Mary's now, well done to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Couldn't disagree more. Thought Webb was poor, always have. Really average display, and missed a lot of fouls. Should have handed out more yellows to WBA. Sian Massey was average. Missed a lot of offsides on Rickie second half. Certainly didn't warrant a new thread IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 I can see why some thought his booking of Lovren was slightly harsh, and I also think he was very lenient with Olsson when he cynically hacked down Lallana with a late, high challenge to prevent him from breaking clean away towards goal, because on another day a different referee might well have sent him off for it. Other than that he was alright. He didn't really have any big calls to make as there were no penalty appeals of any kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 If at the game...you would have seen a very poor ref... The horrendous upending of Nat Clyne..did not get a booking..let alone a red card. Let alone the cutting in half of Lallana and Ramirez... I can see why peeps throughout the season..saying he will not give yellow cards even when WBA desrved about 4/5 first half.. He knows he would have to send off players after further fouls etc... He spoke to and finally warned Foster a dozen times in the first half for time wasting..... Not the top class ref he thinks he is....as bad as Clatttterburg:mcinnes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Thought he gave us a lot of niggly fouls. And didn't give some similar ones for WBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 I can see why some thought his booking of Lovren was slightly harsh, and I also think he was very lenient with Olsson when he cynically hacked down Lallana with a late, high challenge to prevent him from breaking clean away towards goal, because on another day a different referee might well have sent him off for it. Other than that he was alright. He didn't really have any big calls to make as there were no penalty appeals of any kind. Have to disagree. Lovren went right over the ball and into Longs leg studs up. Had that been the other way round we would have been screaming for a straight red. Equally as cynical as Olssons challenge was we had both centre backs covering a fair bit deeper, so a yellow was the correct decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Why did he storm upto Luke at the end? looked like he was about to headbutt Luke, too much talking not enough action, they started time wasting as early as the first 5 mins but took another 35 before he spoke to the keeper for timewasting, still he followed the FA's instructions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 I like Webb, he allows a physical game. Lots of challenges were allowed today which plenty of other refs would have given as fouls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Thought he had a good game personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Force Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Much better than Clattenburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Had a good game, allowed a lot but that suited us. We managed to controll the midfield because of it. Other referees might have given a lot more fouls against us when we got the ball back high up the pitch. Lovréns yellow was a tad harsh but understandable. Olsson was never going to get a red for that challenge and nor should he have. It was high yes, but in the end he only really blocked Lallana. A red would have been a strange decision. All in all, a good match since there weren't any glaring mistakes and both teams got their share of 50-50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Other than not clamping down on the time wasting he was ok. Having said that we've had some right duffers this season haven't we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 He was fairly average, pretty much the standard for ref's these days. Unlike many other ref's, I think he has the respect of the players, which really helps. He doesn't always get the decisions right, but you don't see a huge amount of arguing about it. Sian Massey was superb yet again though, she rarely seems to misjudge decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulful Odin Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Sian Massey is easily in the top 3 assistants in the league . Can keep up with play and willing to give decisions other than offside and throw ins/goal kicks/corners. To to be fair to the other lino he was pretty good too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Thought he was ok. I felt he started to lose control a bit around the two-thirds mark but we've certainly had a lot worse. A couple more yellows for WBA might have been fairer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Thought Webb was OK today. Gave us our fair share of 50/50 decisions IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 We got the rub of the green today. Webb had an OK game but that only shows how poor the general level of refereeing is in the prem. Webb > A one-eyed Uriah Renee > Clattenburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 He was not at his best, how the hell did he not book Anelka (I think) for Scything down Clyne as that was just as bad as Dejan on that little s**t Long, Dejan was rightfully in Webbs ear. Sian Massey had a wobbly few moments second half which was out of character for her, not helped by Webb over ruling her decision on a clear corner for us when she had the better view. There were a few decisions today that would have a cynic thinking the Referees Union has closed ranks where we are concerned following the Clattenberg cobblers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Still a mystery how it could be a freekick against Shaw in the last seconds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Still a mystery how it could be a freekick against Shaw in the last seconds.... Take the Cynics view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Take the Cynics view Ok, lino on that side blind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Still a mystery how it could be a freekick against Shaw in the last seconds.... Free kick I can see why he gave it, but why did he go and square up to Shaw just after he gave it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Free kick I can see why he gave it, but why did he go and square up to Shaw just after he gave it?! He told him " you're very different now, since you played for the under 21's". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Free kick I can see why he gave it, but why did he go and square up to Shaw just after he gave it?! Luke probably gave the Lino a bit of deserved chirp, because from my seat it did look a bit cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Just seen the Olsson 'challenge' from fhe tv angle. I take it back, was virtually gbh with intent, could easily have been a straight red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Deliberate or not, very high challenge, straight leg with studs up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Had a good game. Those saying otherwise are ignorant morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonball Posted 11 January, 2014 Share Posted 11 January, 2014 Thought he should have dished out a few more yellow cards to WBA & a red for the assult on Lallana. They made 17 fouls to our 11 according to the beeb & the time wasting should have been dealt with earlier. He didn't alter the course of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Deliberate or not, very high challenge, straight leg with studs up... Plus with the ball already way past him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Deliberate or not, very high challenge, straight leg with studs up... As tom28 says..... Don't be an ignorant moron, that was just a bit late, but not at all dangerous, deliberate or cynical. We'll ignore the filth fouls on clyne or lala being scythed in half in mid air during the first half. Or his utter lack of control of time wasting and overalling linesmen and women to Gove incorrect decisions on throws and corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Football fans talking about referees is similar to football fans talking about the Swedish economy. They don't know what they're talking about. Webb took the sting out of today's game on a few occasions when things were looking like getting nasty. He would have been aware of the history of this fixture (last season) and he made sure this wasn't going to happen again. Perfect example of this was when Ramirez was involved in a small foul off the ball - he gave WBA the free kick and was able to have a quick word with Ramirez & Co while he allowed a substitution to take place. It is these unnoticed things that make one referee better than another. I'm not sure how many of the comments about the Clyne foul are coming from fans who have not had the benefit of a replay. The replay clearly shows that Anelka made no dangerous contact and it appeared that Clyne made the most of it. Perfect decision. Lovren's foul on Long was a little late, studs were showing on the ankle and it was a yellow card. Perfect decision. It could have been a red card for Olsson and it was never a free kick at the end of the game with Shaw. Imperfect decisions but human decisions nonetheless. We all have our opinions but when attempting to discuss referees try taking those red and white glasses off - unless they are glued to your nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyb5443 Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 He was awesome compared to other refs we've been having, looks like this media hype works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Deliberate or not, very high challenge, straight leg with studs up... Dunno, definitely looks like he gets the ball there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Which one, the left or the right? (ripping lallana's ballsack makes Jonas's night) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Didn't have many complaints about his performance. Getting ridiculous now that unless a ref sees everything and calls it correctly that people start saying he was poor. Is there any ref who attains these standards consistently? No is the answer so accept it rather than having some persecution complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 That photo of Olsson's foul is a VERY different view from the one that Webb had (which was seen on TV) In Webb's view, Olsson appeared to step across AFTER the ball had gone and block Adam. At that point and from the view he had there was no way he would give a straight Red for a professional foul when the ball was still in our half. TV taters were happy it was a yellow and TBH so was I watching it. THEN the TV showed the reverse angle - "Oh" was the comment, "that should have been a straight Red"..... I don't blame Webb at all he was behind Adam as we were breaking quickly and that raised studs boot was hidden by AL's body position. I am pretty sure that the only person who could have given that as a Red would have been a Lino but it was a LONG way away from them even IF they were in a position to see. Of course 60% of SMS had a better view.... they were behind Olsson and could see it! The foul by Shaw at the end was bullkrap, shoulder to shoulder no shirt tugging player falls over like Oscar or Suarez. Cannot defend that mistake neither did TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Deliberate or not, very high challenge, straight leg with studs up... Apparently there were at least to covering defenders though. (Give me strength) We also have to remember that Howard Webb saw nothing wrong with Nigel de Jong's challenge in the world cup final. Webb is dining out on the excellent job he did with the Muamba incident at white hart lane still. He is not the worst, but that is still being damned with feint praise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Just seen the Olsson 'challenge' from fhe tv angle. I take it back, was virtually gbh with intent, could easily have been a straight red. Phil Thompson on Sky Sports thought it was going to be a straight red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Webb did OK but Olsson should have had a red, and that was never a free kick against Shaw at the end. No way in a million years he gives that against Cole or Evra or any big side full back. Shocking decision that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Sian Massey is easily in the top 3 assistants in the league . Can keep up with play and willing to give decisions other than offside and throw ins/goal kicks/corners. To to be fair to the other lino he was pretty good too The other lino was crap - got over ruled at least once by the ref for giving throws the wrong way. Ref was OK. As others have said should have booked Foster in the first half along with a possible sending off in the 2nd as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Thought he was generally fine but Olsson should have been off and that free kick on Shaw was a poor decision. Only other comment was that I thought he handled the time wasting very poorly. Took him ages to speak to Foster and then didn't book him despite repeat offences. Then later in the second half Boruc took one goal kick a bit slowly and he marched straight over to hurry us along. Where is the consistency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Apparently there were at least to covering defenders though. (Give me strength) We also have to remember that Howard Webb saw nothing wrong with Nigel de Jong's challenge in the world cup final. Webb is dining out on the excellent job he did with the Muamba incident at white hart lane still. He is not the worst, but that is still being damned with feint praise He may not be the worst but he's far from being the so called best Replay of the World Cup Final. The Itchen-side lino' Mike Mullarky also ran the World Cup line and we all know what a shambles of officialdom that was when Holland could quite easily have finished with eight men if the rules had been correctly applied. No problem with Miss Massey on the Kingsland-side. As mentioned earlier she has performed superbly in her visits to SMS - in spite of the duffers in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 We won 1-0 so IMO he was a good ref. Had we lost he would have been a poor ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timayes Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Echo what most have said, it seems miss/mrs massey is very popular, and rightfully so, she never seems to get it wrong. HW handled the game well enough, neither team gave him too many difficult decisions to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 i take it the predicted backlash from refs never happened? (like it ever was) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 It could have been a red card for Olsson and it was never a free kick at the end of the game with Shaw. Imperfect decisions but human decisions nonetheless. As I remember it wasn't it the assistant who flagged for the foul by Shaw? Webb then made a big thing out of it by running all the way across for a talking-to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 i take it the predicted backlash from refs never happened? (like it ever was) On the contrary. Resident forum genius Wes Tender proclaimed our actions has forced the FA to seriously review the standard of refereeing across the country. Yes, our letter has done that. Not any other complaint about refs made by any other club in the past decade. Our one. The new dawn of refereeing started this week. Well done us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 On the contrary. Resident forum genius Wes Tender proclaimed our actions has forced the FA to seriously review the standard of refereeing across the country. Yes, our letter has done that. Not any other complaint about refs made by any other club in the past decade. Our one. The new dawn of refereeing started this week. Well done us. Oh surely not there are far more candidates for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 12 January, 2014 Share Posted 12 January, 2014 Don't think he is as good a ref as his reputation suggests, makes some very strange decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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