Dig Dig Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Have also heard that Poch is likely to stay. If he does, Shaw is more than happy to stay. Lallana at 26 is more likely to go. Nothing new from the others really, but there you go. When you say "heard" do you mean Chris Ran on your Twitter feed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Pochettino did preside over some poor results through November and December so although the team played very attractive possession football it didn't prevent the slip from being in the top 3 to dropping down to 8th or 9th. Even towards the end of the season there were games where possession didn't translate into goals. So, much as I want MP to stay, let's not see him as being superhuman. But what makes him irreplaceable at the moment is that he has the respect of the players and his commitment to the club is likely to be a major factor in helping keep our star players here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Forgotten what ? It was a non event really, arguably yes he could've fielded a stronger team. But then Sunderland beat us twice, once with our full squads and one when both of us rang the changes. No they didn't. They beat an even weaker side in the League Cup. We drew twice in the league. They just felt like defeats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 When you say "heard" do you mean Chris Ran on your Twitter feed? Nope, trust me, that isn't where he got the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneysaint17 Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Nope, trust me, that isn't where he got the info. ...meaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 (edited) ...meaning? Nothing. I just know he didn't copy and paste from his twitter feed. I don't know if his source is reliable or not, but from what he has said and what many others have reported on here, it seems more likely than not that MP will be staying but the playing squad may be reshuffled this summer. I am as much ITK on this as the majority on here. Edited 13 May, 2014 by itchen_dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan abnormal Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 I love how people have "heard" so much. Seeing as its a 50/50 choice its an outlandish claim to make... Someone is jealous of those in the loop. I've also heard that he might just maybe but not certainly and might not actually stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Cummon Kat, get yer wallet out. Leicester's owners are gonna spunk £180m on achieving top five within three years. Sod FFP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 It depends where he goes, between us or spurs I reckon its as simple as us offering ambition and guarantees What does that mean? What is the definition of ambition and guarantees in this context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 What about your 'vision' you set out a few months ago when discussing our realistic targets for the summer window. Keeping as much of the squad together, selling Osvaldo and possibly Ramirez and pooling those proceeds with a kitty of £20m or so. At the time, you didn't think it was unrealistic. Have no doubt that some players will want to leave -though none are begging to leave- but I think it could be managed in a way that avoids any snowball effect. With a more explicit plan, I also think we could keep hold the likes of Shaw for another couple of seasons. Despite their desire to see Shaw play for them, the united mongboards are pretty clear why the lad might want to stay for a little longer. The same goes for the other players under 25. Lallana's the exception as he's reaching an age where it's increasingly now or never. However time is on the side of the rest of the squad. Who knows with incremental improvement each season, perhaps by the time the others reach the crossroads Lallana has, we might be a more attractive proposition -maybe not for the world beaters like Shaw but players of the calibre of Lovren/Morgan etc. What about it? It is still possible. I still expect us to have a good season next year, I'm not stressed or worried like so many on here. I don't think things would have been so different if NC was still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyin Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 (edited) Sherwood sacked, here comes the offer.....if any Even money favourite to be next Spurs boss Edited 13 May, 2014 by theyin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 What does that mean? What is the definition of ambition and guarantees in this context? We will lose one of our players atleast, big players, I dont suppose the board can guarantee anything on that front and I wouldnt believe them if they did. But we are in a very unique position, we have a team on the cusp of something special with a manager getting them to play atteactive and effective football. With a couple of additions we could start to threaten the top 6, along with this you have squad supplementation from a good academy. For me the board need to build on it, Im not talking about vast sums of money either, just an ambition to try to keep the squad together and atleast allow for replacements to be made and new signings brought into the squad. Perhaps a kitty of around 30m + anything made on transfers. That would be motivation for me, and Id argue Poch. He seems happy with his lot here IMO, but he talked about 'asking the board' when questioned on his future, thst speaks volumes to me. Spurs is one of those moves, he could easily be out of a job in 6 months with a tarnished rep going there. Plus are they really going to spend masses again after last year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 We will lose one of our players atleast, big players, I dont suppose the board can guarantee anything on that front and I wouldnt believe them if they did. But we are in a very unique position, we have a team on the cusp of something special with a manager getting them to play atteactive and effective football. With a couple of additions we could start to threaten the top 6, along with this you have squad supplementation from a good academy. For me the board need to build on it, Im not talking about vast sums of money either, just an ambition to try to keep the squad together and atleast allow for replacements to be made and new signings brought into the squad. Perhaps a kitty of around 30m + anything made on transfers. That would be motivation for me, and Id argue Poch. He seems happy with his lot here IMO, but he talked about 'asking the board' when questioned on his future, thst speaks volumes to me. Spurs is one of those moves, he could easily be out of a job in 6 months with a tarnished rep going there. Plus are they really going to spend masses again after last year ? Pretty much my assessment - above all, don't think its unrealistic or financially irresponsible. Question how many players can we afford to lose before it starts going pear-shaped, mindful the risks of plugging gaps in the transfer market and the loss of team chemistry. 1,2,3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Pretty much my assessment - above all, don't think its unrealistic or financially irresponsible. Question how many players can we afford to lose before it starts going pear-shaped, mindful the risks of plugging gaps in the transfer market and the loss of team chemistry. 1,2,3? Pretty much need a keeper, CB, Striker IMO to be effective, nothing major, if players move on then replace. Striker would be my top priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 We will lose one of our players atleast, big players, I dont suppose the board can guarantee anything on that front and I wouldnt believe them if they did. But we are in a very unique position, we have a team on the cusp of something special with a manager getting them to play atteactive and effective football. With a couple of additions we could start to threaten the top 6, along with this you have squad supplementation from a good academy. For me the board need to build on it, Im not talking about vast sums of money either, just an ambition to try to keep the squad together and atleast allow for replacements to be made and new signings brought into the squad. Perhaps a kitty of around 30m + anything made on transfers. That would be motivation for me, and Id argue Poch. He seems happy with his lot here IMO, but he talked about 'asking the board' when questioned on his future, thst speaks volumes to me. Spurs is one of those moves, he could easily be out of a job in 6 months with a tarnished rep going there. Plus are they really going to spend masses again after last year ? I'm sure the board do want to build on it. I doubt Kruger came here to just faff around in lower mid-table for a couple of years. It's just a case of what guarantees MP wants. Is he happy to stay if we sell Lallana? Does he want £30m net spend this summer and we're only offering £18m? Who knows, but there is clearly a game of poker going on here and I think MP is playing us along a bit at the moment, which is fair enough for him, he only has one career and wants to get the most out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Pretty much need a keeper, CB, Striker IMO to be effective, nothing major, if players move on then replace. Striker would be my top priority Tbf, if Lallana also leaves, we need a top drawer player to replace him. So much has gone through him this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Tbf, if Lallana also leaves, we need a top drawer player to replace him. So much has gone through him this season. Thats sort of a given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Pretty much need a keeper, CB, Striker IMO to be effective, nothing major, if players move on then replace. Striker would be my top priority And how many players can we afford to lose? One of or both Lallana and Shaw? Any others? I'd think we could lose one of them, though it would be v.hard to lose/replace both. I think we could cope with the loss of Morgan as Victor and Cork are ready to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobysaint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Got a hunch they may go for Moyes. Tenner placed at 10-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 And how many players can we afford to lose? One of or both Lallana and Shaw? Any others? I'd think we could lose one of them, though it would be v.hard to lose/replace both. I think we could cope with the loss of Morgan as Victor and Cork are ready to step up. Obviously lost players require being replaced, Ramirez could step up to the Lallana plate should he consistantly play at a solid level we have seen he can. As per Shaw, there will be replacements, Im not hot on the LB market TBH but Im sure 30m will pay for a decent quality player. Any lose however will be big, Id rather not lose Morgan, was pretty much the best DM in prem according to Opta halfway through the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 No...what you do is create an environment where the players fancy their chances of success at the club they're already comfortable with and don't see moving as a necessity....Kinda like what Nasty Nick did during his time at Saints. A self fulfilling prophesy if you like. But having spent most your life blinded by bitter hatred for one thing or another, I wouldn't expect you to see that. Bless your little Tea Party socks. You try so hard to be insulting and you're so poor at it. Still cracking one off about gay sex in prisons as you're bound to mention it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Got a hunch they may go for Moyes. Tenner placed at 10-1. Think that's a good bet myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Got a hunch they may go for Moyes. Tenner placed at 10-1. Well they took a punt on Chelsea's managerial cast off, no reason they wouldn't try with Utds. Normally there's a lack of managerial candidates but it seems like there's quite a few at the moment. A plus if we do lose Pochettino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Moyes is known as a manager that doesn't really bring through youth players Southampton is known as a team that brings through youth players Yes,Moyes seems like a good shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Moyes is known as a manager that doesn't really bring through youth players Southampton is known as a team that brings through youth players Yes,Moyes seems like a good shout Apart from Rooney Stones Coleman Anichibe Vaughan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 The only reason I think they will go for Poch, is because Saints play the kind of football that Spurs fans want and believe they will play and should play. I just do not know why he would go to Spurs? Ok they are a bigger club, but we were not that far behind them and 0-2 up at their gaff before we threw it away. It is a huge risk for Poch, as Hoddle found to his cost. No top 4, then he will be out on his ear. I really do think he would be better off staying a Saint, keeping the players here and doing well with us. Then in time he could land himself the Arsenal, or Chelsea job. I think he would suit Arsenal really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Moyes is known as a manager that doesn't really bring through youth players Southampton is known as a team that brings through youth players Yes,Moyes seems like a good shout They were talking about Spurs but you can continue ranting if you like ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 They were talking about Spurs but you can continue ranting if you like ? Ha ha ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 If the rumours about Pochettino staying are true, why has it not be announced? Probably because there not true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 The only reason I think they will go for Poch, is because Saints play the kind of football that Spurs fans want and believe they will play and should play. I just do not know why he would go to Spurs? Ok they are a bigger club, but we were not that far behind them and 0-2 up at their gaff before we threw it away. It is a huge risk for Poch, as Hoddle found to his cost. No top 4, then he will be out on his ear. I really do think he would be better off staying a Saint, keeping the players here and doing well with us. Then in time he could land himself the Arsenal, or Chelsea job. I think he would suit Arsenal really well. AVB is known for a high pressing game and a lot of signings were brought in to execute that strategy, though AVB deployed it inconsistently. Perhaps Levy feels that MP who's had much more success with the pressing game, can get the best out of those signings. Would certainly save him having to tear things up and start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Apart from Rooney Stones Coleman Anichibe Vaughan Rodwell Osman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Moyes = Free Poch = £2m Despite his underwhelming season at United, he's not the f*cktard everyone makes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 If the rumours about Pochettino staying are true, why has it not be announced? Probably because there not true? I agree, likely because no decision has been made on his future. However, playing Devils advocate, they could be delaying the news to announce at the same time a player departs to soften the blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 AVB is known for a high pressing game and a lot of signings were brought in to execute that strategy, though AVB deployed it inconsistently. Perhaps Levy feels that MP who's had much more success with the pressing game, can therefore get the best out of those signings. Would certainly save Levy having to tear things up and start again. Or perhaps he is going to look at a different approach as this attacking football has not quite paid off, for the expectations of a Spurs and their fans. I just think that there are such high expectations that it will be another manager who is sacked in a years time. Ha*rry, AVB, sherwood, all played attacking football and all got the boot. At one stage I had to admit I liked watching Spurs play under saggy chops! I just feel, they may need a different approach, but they have the very attractive football of arsenal on their doorstep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Apart from Rooney Stones Coleman Anichibe Vaughan Barclay Rodwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 I agree, likely because no decision has been made on his future. However, playing Devils advocate, they could be delaying the news to announce at the same time a player departs to soften the blow. Knowing Saints, they will probably announce the sacking sometime this week...... Catch us all on the back foot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Living in Spurs country, can't see Moyes as manager whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Apart from Rooney Stones Coleman Anichibe Vaughan Coleman and Stones were both signed from elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Coleman and Stones were both signed from elsewhere. Bit like Gallagher, Stephens, well, most of ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 I think there is more chance of Pochettino ending up at Arsenal than Spurs. Think Wenger may go in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 (edited) Bit like Gallagher, Stephens, well, most of ours Not really, no. Stones didn't make his Everton debut until this season, under Martinez. And Coleman was 20 when he came over from Ireland. Edited 13 May, 2014 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Moyes = Free Poch = £2m Despite his underwhelming season at United, he's not the f*cktard everyone makes out. Quite. I think Everton finished top half in 9 out of 11 seasons he was there with a net spend of around £1m a season. An incredible achievement really. The fashionable view seems to be saying that Martinez has shown him up but the fact remains Everton have finished 5th-8th every season since for the last 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 I think there is more chance of Pochettino ending up at Arsenal than Spurs. Think Wenger may go in the summer. No Arsenal will want a manager with real experience of the Champions League. Spurs just want someone, to dream about it with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 I think there is more chance of Pochettino ending up at Arsenal than Spurs. Think Wenger may go in the summer. Wenger has said he is staying. But as mentioned a little earlier, I think Poch would be wise to stick around.... Why Spurs? Don't get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 There's a fair bit of codswallop on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Wenger has said he is staying. But as mentioned a little earlier, I think Poch would be wise to stick around.... Why Spurs? Don't get it! Money Closer to the CL London Money Better than saints Money Bigger transfer budget Money Money Money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 There's a fair bit of codswallop on here! You do sound surprised! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Money Closer to the CL London Money Better than saints Money Bigger transfer budget Money Money Money Sacked after 12 months, go and coach some kids far away! They will not get in the champions league and that is the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Wonder if Klinsmann is in with a chance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Sacked after 12 months, go and coach some kids far away! They will not get in the champions league and that is the target. Why won't they get into the CL In other threads, Suarez is going and Liverpool won't get in Arsenal are one other team away getting their act together before missing out Man U Are finished for a few years in another thread. We certainly are no where near CL even if we keep everyone Spurs got 4th twice in the last few years with redknapp. Not beyond the realms of possibility that the manager we rate so greatly could sneak 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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