Saint-Armstrong Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-southampton-supporters-need-reality-check-says-ex-striker-davies-140728104196 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 LOL love it won't go down well on here though........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Hail Kevin Davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 what does Davies know that Beattie doesn't? Or vice versa? My guess is they both know f all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Goalkeepers shouldn't have an opinion. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Dragging any muppet they can find out from a rock and letting them spout rubbish on the radio. Pretty standard talksport fare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Saw Steve Grant put this on Twitter.... Easy for KD to say, but its hard to watch at the moment We need a few boosts, we need some good news FAST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Dragging any muppet they can find out from a rock and letting them spout rubbish on the radio. Pretty standard talksport fare. When you booked in for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 3 or 4 good signings and all will be good. 3 or 4 signings we can do no problem. 3 or 4 good signings is more of a task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The Board must be getting rattled They are wheeling out Ex Players to stand up for them More Bullsh*t from the (Non ) corridors of power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 When you booked in for? Assume they'll get to you long before me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Can't disagree with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The Board must be getting rattled They are wheeling out Ex Players to stand up for them More Bullsh*t from the (Non ) corridors of power AWESOME post, from an AWESOME poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Club is in decent shape long term I agree but in terms of excitement and prospects it feels like a very limp way to just accept your fate as a lower half Premier League team and get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 There's more to it than that though, isn't there? This isn't just about us being little old Saints. The level of unrest is almost unprecedented, and there are clearly issues at the club. The idea that all of this stuff that's happening is completely out of our control is simply not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Hammer, meet nail head. Not that anyone will listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Not sure KD is really up to speed on the "politics" of what has happened in the last 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Judging by RK's tweet he's looking to be fairly relaxed about it all which makes me think he's not entirely getting the mood of the fans or it's a coping mechanism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The Board must be getting rattled They are wheeling out Ex Players to stand up for them More Bullsh*t from the (Non ) corridors of power Look we may not be in a very comfortable place right now, but how and why the hell would the current board wheel out an ex-player who left us over 10 years ago, and never even met the current owners, come forward and do their bidding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 There's more to it than that though, isn't there? This isn't just about us being little old Saints. The level of unrest is almost unprecedented, and there are clearly issues at the club. The idea that all of this stuff that's happening is completely out of our control is simply not true. I'd agree if all our players were desperate to go to teams like stoke,WHU or burnley but every single player, so far, has gone to a bigger club with CL football and the ability to pay more wages. We built a good team but we can't afford to pay the wages or offer the European football required to keep it to keep together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The Board must be getting rattled They are wheeling out Ex Players to stand up for them More Bullsh*t from the (Non ) corridors of power There's this poster I know, his name is Pap - you should look him up sometime, probably be able to 'chew the fat' for days..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Judging by RK's tweet he's looking to be fairly relaxed about it all which makes me think he's not entirely getting the mood of the fans or it's a coping mechanism Maybe he walked into the situation with his eyes open? At Feynoord he was expected to use youth players he also expected to lose his best players if bigger clubs came calling....probably one of the reasons the club thought he was the right man for the job at saints. Like he said after the Bournemouth game we aren't Man city maybe he just understands football and our place in the food chain better than the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 To me, there are so many mixed messages that it isn't even worth trying to understand what is going on. We flog everyone, yet we are about to splash out £50m or so newspaper articles say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 To me, there are so many mixed messages that it isn't even worth trying to understand what is going on. We flog everyone, yet we are about to splash out £50m or so newspaper articles say. We flog everyone who wants to go and buy replacements who want to be here. Makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The same life-sapping clichés as the Beattie interview, albeit taking a different position. Nothing sums up TalkSport's approach to discount bin pundits than yesterday's interview with Mark Wright. Was brought on to discuss what Liverpool could expect from Lovren, though as Wright pointed out he had never seen him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I'd agree if all our players were desperate to go to teams like stoke,WHU or burnley but every single player, so far, has gone to a bigger club with CL football and the ability to pay more wages. We built a good team but we can't afford to pay the wages or offer the European football required to keep it to keep together. Except that your explanation doesn't explain the transfers of Chambers or Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Not sure KD is really up to speed on the "politics" of what has happened in the last 6 months. This. What does Kevin Davies know about what the board is doing? Seriously, it really is some kind of joke when we are told things are OK because a Player who played for us 11 years ago says the Board knows what they are doing. But all the happy clappers pounce on it and lap it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 We flog everyone who wants to go and buy replacements who want to be here. Makes sense to me. makes total sense. There isn't anything more to it than that. No huge debt, no dissatisfied owner, no inept board, just a perfect storm-like situation whereby our players have impressed enough for the big clubs to come in with sizeable bids that are enough for us to accept. The inability to keep unhappy players from earning bigger bucks elsewhere is not exclusive to Saints, it's just that we have 5 or 6 players at the club at the same time all good enough to play in the champions league. It's ****, it's annoying, it's depressing, but is it avoidable in any way? I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 This. What does Kevin Davies know about what the board is doing? Seriously, it really is some kind of joke when we are told things are OK because a Player who played for us 11 years ago says the Board knows what they are doing. But all the happy clappers pounce on it and lap it up. he knows **** all, he's just one of their regular ex pros that they interview from time to time whenever there is a story about Bolton, or fat Sam, or Blackburn or whoever else he has played for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 makes total sense. There isn't anything more to it than that. No huge debt, no dissatisfied owner, no inept board, just a perfect storm-like situation whereby our players have impressed enough for the big clubs to come in with sizeable bids that are enough for us to accept. The inability to keep unhappy players from earning bigger bucks elsewhere is not exclusive to Saints, it's just that we have 5 or 6 players at the club at the same time all good enough to play in the champions league. It's ****, it's annoying, it's depressing, but is it avoidable in any way? I'm not so sure. Perspective. Cheers Chez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 makes total sense. There isn't anything more to it than that. No huge debt, no dissatisfied owner, no inept board, just a perfect storm-like situation whereby our players have impressed enough for the big clubs to come in with sizeable bids that are enough for us to accept. The inability to keep unhappy players from earning bigger bucks elsewhere is not exclusive to Saints, it's just that we have 5 or 6 players at the club at the same time all good enough to play in the champions league. It's ****, it's annoying, it's depressing, but is it avoidable in any way? I'm not so sure. Chambers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 makes total sense. There isn't anything more to it than that. No huge debt, no dissatisfied owner, no inept board, just a perfect storm-like situation whereby our players have impressed enough for the big clubs to come in with sizeable bids that are enough for us to accept. The inability to keep unhappy players from earning bigger bucks elsewhere is not exclusive to Saints, it's just that we have 5 or 6 players at the club at the same time all good enough to play in the champions league. It's ****, it's annoying, it's depressing, but is it avoidable in any way? I'm not so sure. 100% spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Club is in decent shape long term I agree but in terms of excitement and prospects it feels like a very limp way to just accept your fate as a lower half Premier League team and get on with it. Any club that targets lower half Prem is a potential relegation candidate. West Ham finished 13th last season but were only 7 points above relegated Norwich. Norwich spent much of the season in the second half of the table above the relegation places, but took the drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I'd agree if all our players were desperate to go to teams like stoke,WHU or burnley but every single player, so far, has gone to a bigger club with CL football and the ability to pay more wages. We built a good team but we can't afford to pay the wages or offer the European football required to keep it to keep together. It would be great to keep the team but thinking the club are now going for the sustainability model from now on, so it means player sales. It's been good to watch the youngster come through and compete at the highest level. It means the conveyor belt will continue to produce top talent as kids will see it as a fantastic opportunity to learn and develop, play PL footy and to then go to a big club who can pay them thousands and offer European football. Maybe one season we'll be able to start keeping them for longer having earn so much and be more competitive because of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Agree with Steve Grant - Kevin Davies has it spot on imo. Gutting to lose all these lads at once, but good moves for them all. Now we need to get quality replacements, and quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 the point davies missed is we were told differently by les reed, no star players to go blah blah blah..... all lies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 We flog everyone who wants to go and buy replacements who want to be here. Makes sense to me. Using that logic, Liverpool should have sold Suarez last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The one thing about Kevin Davies is that the guy is a true Saint. Despite the years, he loves Saints and follows everything Saints very closely. He is someone I have always had the greatest respect for and it's a real shame there are not more players like him at the club nowadays. For those doubting his knowledge of Saints I can inform them that one of his closest buddies is Matt Le Tissier. Their friendship goes back to the days when Kevin still played for Saints and Matt was one of his strongest supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 the point davies missed is we were told differently by les reed, no star players to go blah blah blah..... all lies Were we? I thought he said any players sold would be sold in the best interests of the club.............which is open to pretty big interpertation, I would say, and leaves the board pretty much free reign to do what ever they think is in the best interests of the club (which of course might not be what the fans think is in the best interests of the club) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Except that your explanation doesn't explain the transfers of Chambers or Lambert. Doesn't it ? both wanted by bigger, richer, more successful clubs from what I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 we were told differently by les reed, no star players to go blah blah blah..... all lies Actually he didnt. 20.10 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/10062014-video-les-reed-summer-update-1629389.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Any club that targets lower half Prem is a potential relegation candidate. West Ham finished 13th last season but were only 7 points above relegated Norwich. Norwich spent much of the season in the second half of the table above the relegation places, but took the drop. Yep. Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Sir Robin Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 He almost had me feeling optimistic there, then he ruined it by saying "they'll make three or four good signings"!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Actually he didnt. 20.10 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/10062014-video-les-reed-summer-update-1629389.aspx Of course he did From his statement of 25 April http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/11172160.Les_Reed_s_Saints_statement_in_full/ "we want to retain the players we’ve got. They are all contracted, they all have existing contracts and we intend to honour those contracts" ... "Our intention is to keep this very good team together and build on it by bringing in players to improve upon it." "It’s a positive message we want to get out there. Our fans deserve to understand there is not going to be a fire sale here and we have repeatedly said that ... we want to keep all of our best players here at the club and build on that for the future." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 July, 2014 Share Posted 29 July, 2014 Of course he did From his statement of 25 April http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/11172160.Les_Reed_s_Saints_statement_in_full/ "we want to retain the players we’ve got. They are all contracted, they all have existing contracts and we intend to honour those contracts" ... "Our intention is to keep this very good team together and build on it by bringing in players to improve upon it." "It’s a positive message we want to get out there. Our fans deserve to understand there is not going to be a fire sale here and we have repeatedly said that ... we want to keep all of our best players here at the club and build on that for the future." Well technically he didn't he said "We want to keep" and "our intention". which isn't the same as "We won't sell". The club might have wanted to keep the players the players had other ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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