VectisSaint Posted 1 July, 2015 Share Posted 1 July, 2015 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20150701-dani-osvaldo-southampton-contract-terminated-2518604.aspx Short and to the point, no details. He's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 1 July, 2015 Share Posted 1 July, 2015 Noticed that the club didn't wish him all the best for his future career.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 http://www.london24.com/sport/football/clubs/crystal-palace/crystal_palace_open_talks_with_troubled_italian_about_instant_premier_league_return_1_4136017 Could we get the chance to say our own goodbye against Palace on the last game of next season? If he lasts there that long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 http://www.london24.com/sport/football/clubs/crystal-palace/crystal_palace_open_talks_with_troubled_italian_about_instant_premier_league_return_1_4136017 Could we get the chance to say our own goodbye against Palace on the last game of next season? If he lasts there that long? The words 'disaster' and 'recipe' spring to mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 http://www.london24.com/sport/football/clubs/crystal-palace/crystal_palace_open_talks_with_troubled_italian_about_instant_premier_league_return_1_4136017 Could we get the chance to say our own goodbye against Palace on the last game of next season? If he lasts there that long? Seems an unlikely partnership, Dani and Pards, after Dani's antics at St James Park in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simondo Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 i wouldn't wish ozzy on anyone tbh... ok... maybe the skates.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 I suppose it entirely depends on how many options he has - But I'd imagine staying in this country isn't his 1st choice. Could see him fancying a move to Turkey. I'm sure that despite his many problems & being a free agent, he won't have any problems finding suitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 http://www.palace.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=404408 "the perfect fit" not the phrase I'd have lead with... Something like "The total bellend", "waste of money" or "talented but stupid" would of been more fitting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 http://www.london24.com/sport/football/clubs/crystal-palace/crystal_palace_open_talks_with_troubled_italian_about_instant_premier_league_return_1_4136017 Could we get the chance to say our own goodbye against Palace on the last game of next season? If he lasts there that long? I hope we have a some good CB cover if he makes the move to Palace. Would completely condone a Fonte red card in such circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 i wouldn't wish ozzy on anyone tbh... ok... maybe the skates.. And maybe Liverpool too? If Brendan hears he's played for us he could be tempted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 Has Pardew gone absolutely bonkers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 Has Pardew gone absolutely bonkers? He sees something of himself in Osvaldo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 Has Pardew gone absolutely bonkers? c.2009 Keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 He sees something of himself in Osvaldo... :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 They seem to be a little divided. Some say absolutely not, some say worth a risk (and that Pards might be able to tame him). Surely at some stage, he will have to realise that he has no more bridges to burn so will knuckle down - or maybe he just doesn't give a flying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 http://www.london24.com/sport/football/clubs/crystal-palace/crystal_palace_open_talks_with_troubled_italian_about_instant_premier_league_return_1_4136017 Could we get the chance to say our own goodbye against Palace on the last game of next season? If he lasts there that long? A terrible piece- the last thing Osvaldo is is a physical player who'd do well against the bigger sides. It's precisely why he struggled, something he admitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewanyamasfcs Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 I doubt we actually paid 15 mill, did we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 And a lot of his high wages would of been paid by Juventus, Inter and Boca so although still a lot we would of paid transfer fee, 5 months wages and termination of his contract I think it would be shy of 25m. My guess is 1.2m wages, 12.8m transfer fee and perhaps a 4-5m pay off!! (disgusting that he gets that after all he has done) Cost of Osvaldo around 18-20m!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewanyamasfcs Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 I doubt we paid any of the add-ons, so it would've been about 10-12 imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorne Malvo Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 Quick read of the Palarse forums, saying it could be a great signing for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 I think that there was no loan fee to Juve, but they paid his entire wage for the duration and had the option to buy. I believe there was no fee for Inter either, although that might have changed when we returned Taider. No idea about the Boca deal, but they were stretched financially with his wages in the first place but believe we refused to pay and he took a wage cut as well. So we have the initial fee. Lowest I have seen is £11.2m - highest something like £15.6m - so take your pick. 6 Months wages. Pay off for his last 2 years. I would imagine that the pay off was less than he wanted and more than we wanted, but possibly he could have been sacked for his attack on Fonte. However with so much time passing not sure how that would stand, but it was clear he couldn't come back. So hopefully all parties were pragmatic about it. So it could be £11.2m (being optimistic) + £1.25m for 6 months + £2.5m for a years pay off for the 2 year contract. Of course this is just wild conjecture but could be closer to £15m than £25m. Still, hugely expensive mistake. The ****ing ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 July, 2015 Share Posted 3 July, 2015 They seem to be a little divided. Some say absolutely not, some say worth a risk (and that Pards might be able to tame him). Surely at some stage, he will have to realise that he has no more bridges to burn so will knuckle down - or maybe he just doesn't give a flying... Not sure he will see that he needs to knuckle-down really. What is his motivation? He has been a prize tit for several years without any great footballing success and has made millions. He had a chance to knuckle-down and play at a huge club and win trophies when he was on loan at Juventus but didn't do enough to stay there. If Palace are stupid enough to offer him a decent contract now he's 29 then why does he need to knuckle down? He certainly isn't going to win anything there (ok, maybe a cup if they get lucky, but he will hardly have the carrot of footballing greatness dangled in front of him). Just carrying on being a complete helmet for the next few years, mince around London and pocket the money. Happy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 July, 2015 Share Posted 7 July, 2015 I suddenly feel like a huge weight has been lifted from my shoulders. Seriously. strangely enough - so do I .........and it wasn't MY £12 million that bought him in the first place...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 July, 2015 Share Posted 7 July, 2015 Gaston's new mohawk needs to be seen to be believed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 7 July, 2015 Share Posted 7 July, 2015 Is Gaston still in shop window? would still like to believe he could do a job for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 7 July, 2015 Share Posted 7 July, 2015 Is Gaston still in shop window? would still like to believe he could do a job for us! I'd like to think that as well, but as two successive managers have appeared not to rate him I think we can safely say that ship has sailed. Pity really, he showed flashes of real talent, maybe he just isn't cut out for the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/13375680.Ramirez_s_Saints_career_could_be_revived_by_holiday/ We all know what'll happen next, don't we? Gaston will have a stonking season then be snapped up by Spurs or Liverpool on a free because of his contact situation. You heard it here first (and probably last) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 Good. I was looking forward to seeing what Koeman could do with Gaston over the course of last season and I still think he could've been a better option than either Elia or Djuricic who we brought in loan ourselves. Hopefully we will benefit from a fully rested player and Ronald can find a way of consistently getting the best out of him. Could provide good competition for Dusan and lessen the burden to create on him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 Like Wyclef Jean did not say, he'll be gone by September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 Hard to believe this malingerer is to get another chance. Get shot to whoever will stumf up a couple of million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 Hard to believe this malingerer is to get another chance. Get shot to whoever will stumf up a couple of million. # CB Fry files post away in hindsight time capsule # Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 # CB Fry files post away in hindsight time capsule # LOL. No chance he will be bringing this one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 Hard to believe this malingerer is to get another chance. Get shot to whoever will stumf up a couple of million. That's the problem - you might get a couple of million for him, which might be viewed as not being worth getting rid of, if he can turn things around even at risk of him not renewing his contract if he does come good. I was one of those that said he needed time, but 2 years with us and 1 with Hull meaning 3 years into a 4 year deal, would suggest that he might not come good. I guess we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 Did he fck your wife or something Alpine? Or some other Uruguayan? Seems to have a real problem with them. Yep, keep trying to turn it into a racist thing. Not your first attempt either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 Yep, keep trying to turn it into a racist thing. Not your first attempt either. You have previous though don't you....with the Scots for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 Hard to believe this malingerer is to get another chance. Get shot to whoever will stumf up a couple of million. # CB Fry files post away in hindsight time capsule # LOL. No chance he will be bringing this one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 That's the problem - you might get a couple of million for him, which might be viewed as not being worth getting rid of, if he can turn things around even at risk of him not renewing his contract if he does come good. I was one of those that said he needed time, but 2 years with us and 1 with Hull meaning 3 years into a 4 year deal, would suggest that he might not come good. I guess we'll see. I really want Ramirez to thrive, I really do. He definitely has talent but makes doesn't try hard to show it. No more than average against RB Leipzig tonight and on £40/£50k a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 I really want Ramirez to thrive, I really do. He definitely has talent but makes doesn't try hard to show it. No more than average against RB Leipzig tonight and on £40/£50k a week? Maybe its the money that is the problem. Saints wil pay him around £12.5m in the life of his contract. Thats a lot of money in Uruguay, enough to set yourself and extended family up for life. Some footballers dont actually like the game that much - for all we know his dreams might not be World Cup glory or moving to Man U but to retire to a beachside house in Montevideo at 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 I really want Ramirez to thrive, I really do. He definitely has talent but makes doesn't try hard to show it. No more than average against RB Leipzig tonight and on £40/£50k a week? Seeing as he has been thrown ANOTHER chance I was shocked at how little he did. 10mins bright, involved in everything, then nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 July, 2015 Share Posted 8 July, 2015 You have previous though don't you....with the Scots for example? Nope. I genuinely think they are a bunch of obsessed bitter tw*ts. They have their heads so far up their own rectal cavities that they handed the nation a Tory majority. What total bellends. Making no effort whatsoever to hide my thoughts on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 July, 2015 Share Posted 10 July, 2015 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport #saintsfc Gaston Ramirez has been given a chance to revive his #saintsfc career by Ronald Koeman - Les Reed says up to him to prove himself ^ This was in the Les Reed thread, but may as well go here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There when Franny scored Posted 18 July, 2015 Share Posted 18 July, 2015 Any idea why no Ramirez today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 18 July, 2015 Share Posted 18 July, 2015 I'm guessing he's squandered another chance in the managements eyes. I wasn't about; how was he in Salzburg ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 18 July, 2015 Share Posted 18 July, 2015 Get rid of him he has had plenty of chances to perform get him off the wage bill and get in Tonny Vilhena / Will Hughes / Immers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 July, 2015 Share Posted 18 July, 2015 I'm guessing he's squandered another chance in the managements eyes. I wasn't about; how was he in Salzburg ? He existed in Salzburg. Stood out about as much as anyone, i.e. not at all - which on the day made him our joint 2nd best player with the rest of the team behind Fonte but ahead of Long and Rodriguez who missed good chances, and miles ahead of Martina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 July, 2015 Share Posted 18 July, 2015 Any idea why no Ramirez today? He was shopping in Gunwharf, apparently - so he's either injured, being rested (which makes little sense when he went to Austria), or we've already lined up a move, whether loan or permanent, so we don't mind what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 18 July, 2015 Share Posted 18 July, 2015 He might just be injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 July, 2015 Share Posted 18 July, 2015 He might just be injured. Well, that's a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 18 July, 2015 Share Posted 18 July, 2015 He was shopping in Gunwharf, apparently - so he's either injured, being rested (which makes little sense when he went to Austria), or we've already lined up a move, whether loan or permanent, so we don't mind what he does. Where the hell is Gunwharf???........any how I think he is gone ...........how much to pay off his contract any one know??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 18 July, 2015 Share Posted 18 July, 2015 Where the hell is Gunwharf???........any how I think he is gone ...........how much to pay off his contract any one know??? http://www.gunwharf-quays.com Not far from Fratton Park. Just saying, like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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