Foxstone Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 DT article encouraging - good that looking to sell Lemina. Talented for sure but not available enough for a higher earner but might be for a club on the continent so a move suits both parties. No surprise that looking to move on one or both keepers either. I like McCarthy but the club are spending way too much on keepers’ wages. Adams I like the look of and good deal for all parties on Targett. Agree Adams is a very good prospect. Like you I would have no problem with Lemina moving on - I would far more sell him and invest in Kalvin Phillips as a like for like replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 Bloody hell, I doubt Kevin Phillips is the solution to our problems anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 It's Ings he now says... That sums him up really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 Given we're seemingly selling to buy, I'd take a good offer for Lemina. He doesn't play enough games and while he has more talent, others have been ultimately more useful for us. Romeu, Højbjerg, Slattery, JWP and Armstrong should be enough really. I know I'd rather have a quality starting centre back and no Lemina than the other way round. The more I look at this midfield, the more I realise why we struggled so much last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 I'd go for that Bowen lad at Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 I'd go for that Bowen lad at Hull. Really good player but can’t see where £20m is going to come from after our other priority positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 Where’s DT here. unlike our friend for much longer... Watch him be electric for Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 Romeu, Højbjerg, Slattery, JWP and Armstrong should be enough really. I know I'd rather have a quality starting centre back and no Lemina than the other way round. Are you serious? Slattery has shown nothing so far to suggest he can play men's football. Armstrong is not a Premier League player. And we should be looking to upgrade Romeu to someone whose legs move. Aside from that, midfield looks amazing... Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 Given we're seemingly selling to buy, I'd take a good offer for Lemina. He doesn't play enough games and while he has more talent, others have been ultimately more useful for us. Romeu, Højbjerg, Slattery, JWP and Armstrong should be enough really. I know I'd rather have a quality starting centre back and no Lemina than the other way round. If I had to choose between Boufal and Lemina, one to sell and one to give another chance, I’d keep Lemina. I think without him we’re weak in central midfield. JWP doesn’t cover the same amount of ground, Slattery is completely unproven and Armstrong looks substandard to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 Given we're seemingly selling to buy, I'd take a good offer for Lemina. He doesn't play enough games and while he has more talent, others have been ultimately more useful for us. Romeu, Højbjerg, Slattery, JWP and Armstrong should be enough really. I know I'd rather have a quality starting centre back and no Lemina than the other way round. If we get big money for someone that erratic and not in our first choice center mid pair it seems pretty obvious to take it. Think we’d need some sort of midfielder to come in though not at anywhere near the price level of lemina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 Are you serious? Slattery has shown nothing so far to suggest he can play men's football. Armstrong is not a Premier League player. And we should be looking to upgrade Romeu to someone whose legs move. Aside from that, midfield looks amazing... Sent from my F3311 using Tapatalk 3 goals and 2 assists in 16 starts in his first PL season would suggest Armstrongs done well and is certainly a PL player. Yes maybe not a starter but a good squad player. Slattery needs to develop and should hopefully get more minutes. Agree with your thoughts on Romeu. He looks slower by the game and we could do with a more dynamic DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 One for consideration Perhaps Ralph is Going to give Harrison Reed his chance after 2 pretty decent seasons in the Championship Sell One of the Midfielders to finance 2 decent CB’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 One for consideration Perhaps Ralph is Going to give Harrison Reed his chance after 2 pretty decent seasons in the Championship Sell One of the Midfielders to finance 2 decent CB’sThere's no way we're buying two CBs. I'll be happy with one, but still keeping my fingers crossed. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 If we shift Long, Austin and Mo...How about Welbeck on a two year contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 If we shift Long, Austin and Mo...How about Welbeck on a two year contract? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 If we shift Long, Austin and Mo...How about Welbeck on a two year contract? No Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 If we shift Long, Austin and Mo...How about Welbeck on a two year contract?No thank you. Not the sort of player were going to buy. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 If we shift Long, Austin and Mo...How about Welbeck on a two year contract? He's like Long's faster cousin when it comes to football when he's not injured. He should go to china while his legs still work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 Who wouldn't want a player who has this in his locker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 If we shift Long, Austin and Mo...How about Welbeck on a two year contract? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 No thanks to Welbeck always injured and on well on £100k a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 I have a feeling Charlie might just sit tight and see his contract out, and who could blame him really, when this time next year with no fee he could still negotiate a decent wage. Fans need to accept you can't just discard when contracts are in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 No thanks to Welbeck always injured and on well on £100k a week Not to mention the fact that he’s a striker with 44 League goals in a decade of senior football. He is Shola Ameobi in a posh frock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 I have a feeling Charlie might just sit tight and see his contract out, and who could blame him really, when this time next year with no fee he could still negotiate a decent wage. Fans need to accept you can't just discard when contracts are in place. The flip side being that he will struggle to get a decent contract in a years time if he does that, whereas his stock is still relatively high now and he has his current deal as leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 I have a feeling Charlie might just sit tight and see his contract out, and who could blame him really, when this time next year with no fee he could still negotiate a decent wage. Fans need to accept you can't just discard when contracts are in place. I wondered this as well. In saying that if the story was true, Fulham / Palace might suit him geographically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 Bristol city sign Kalas for record fee - Webster replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 Bristol city sign Kalas for record fee - Webster replacement?Probably not, as he was on loan there last season and played 41 games Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 I have a feeling Charlie might just sit tight and see his contract out, and who could blame him really, when this time next year with no fee he could still negotiate a decent wage. Fans need to accept you can't just discard when contracts are in place. Would be a massive gamble for him with his track record of injuries. A bad injury this year and he doesn't get a contract anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umlaut Posted 1 July, 2019 Share Posted 1 July, 2019 If I had to choose between Boufal and Lemina, one to sell and one to give another chance, I’d keep Lemina. I think without him we’re weak in central midfield. JWP doesn’t cover the same amount of ground, Slattery is completely unproven and Armstrong looks substandard to me. Wasn't JWP the player who consistently covered the most ground last season? He might not be the fastest, but there's no questioning his stamina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 2 July, 2019 Share Posted 2 July, 2019 Can't exactly seeing him being first choice which might be the issue, he might expect to be and Ralph probably quite rightly would have Hojberg and JWP ahead of him, and hes not really a DM so can't fill that gap, and we then have Redmond/Djenepo/Ings/Adams/Long further forward depending on formation, so struggling to see where he is going to fit in. Ideally you'd like him there to challenge JWP/Hojberg, but if hes not happy not being a nailed on starter probably best to let him go if we can get a decent fee for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectraman Posted 2 July, 2019 Share Posted 2 July, 2019 Can't exactly seeing him being first choice which might be the issue, he might expect to be and Ralph probably quite rightly would have Hojberg and JWP ahead of him, and hes not really a DM so can't fill that gap, and we then have Redmond/Djenepo/Ings/Adams/Long further forward depending on formation, so struggling to see where he is going to fit in. Ideally you'd like him there to challenge JWP/Hojberg, but if hes not happy not being a nailed on starter probably best to let him go if we can get a decent fee for him. If that is his problem, it shows what a poor unprofessional attitude he has (and I think you are probably right). He thinks he is better than he is. He is consistently inconsistent, injury prone, and has a huge ego. If he was a decent pro, he’d be training like a beast, showing on the training ground what a fantastic work ethic he has, how fit he is, how determined and right up for the season ahead he is, and if not a first team starter, when he got his chance he’d get on the pitch and prove Ralph wrong for not starting him. Reality is he’ll go and have a little moan on social media, tell everyone how amazing he is and just sulk. He is Paul Pogba lite. And I think Paul Pogba is a terribly flawed player too for the same reasons as Mario. He is just better and has some reputation to fall back on.....over to you Mario. I think you could be our best player..... You’ve got to be bothered to show it though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 July, 2019 Share Posted 2 July, 2019 There are two English clubs that want to Walter Kannemann: Wolverhampton and Southampton evaluate making an offer close to 12 million euros by the defender of the Guild and the National Team. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Kannemann 28, centre back, plays for Gremio, and has played for Argentina. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSK8kfmpv2w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 July, 2019 Share Posted 2 July, 2019 If that is his problem, it shows what a poor unprofessional attitude he has (and I think you are probably right). He thinks he is better than he is. He is consistently inconsistent, injury prone, and has a huge ego. If he was a decent pro, he’d be training like a beast, showing on the training ground what a fantastic work ethic he has, how fit he is, how determined and right up for the season ahead he is, and if not a first team starter, when he got his chance he’d get on the pitch and prove Ralph wrong for not starting him. Reality is he’ll go and have a little moan on social media, tell everyone how amazing he is and just sulk. He is Paul Pogba lite. And I think Paul Pogba is a terribly flawed player too for the same reasons as Mario. He is just better and has some reputation to fall back on.....over to you Mario. I think you could be our best player..... You’ve got to be bothered to show it though..... I think he's always had the look of someone that thinks that Southampton FC is way below his level. Better to take the cash and wait for the next opportunity. Not basing this on anything other than body language and the effort he appears to put in. Like Van Dyke in his latter weeks. Hope I'm wrong and he can put it all behind him and prove an absolute diamond next season. But suspect we'll cash in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 July, 2019 Share Posted 2 July, 2019 There are two English clubs that want to Walter Kannemann: Wolverhampton and Southampton evaluate making an offer close to 12 million euros by the defender of the Guild and the National Team. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Kannemann 28, centre back, plays for Gremio, and has played for Argentina. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSK8kfmpv2w Interesting one. Not the age profile but for a CB a good age - one to keep an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 July, 2019 Share Posted 2 July, 2019 Double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neef Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 The comments surrounding Lemina's attitude have always baffled me a little. I don't think he's actually done anything to prove that his attitude is poor? The same goes with Boufal, who bar a bust up with Hughes, never seemed to overstep his mark on or off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 https://m.calciomercato.com/en/news/southampton-make-offer-for-andre-silva-the-situation-and-ac-mila-59517 Slightly odd link to a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 The comments surrounding Lemina's attitude have always baffled me a little. I don't think he's actually done anything to prove that his attitude is poor? The same goes with Boufal, who bar a bust up with Hughes, never seemed to overstep his mark on or off the pitch. Yeah, I wouldn't look too deeply into the reasons why certain players are labelled by certain fans as lazy or unreliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 The comments surrounding Lemina's attitude have always baffled me a little. I don't think he's actually done anything to prove that his attitude is poor? The same goes with Boufal, who bar a bust up with Hughes, never seemed to overstep his mark on or off the pitch. Not white is normally the reason why players have a bad attitude with our fan base... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 https://m.calciomercato.com/en/news/southampton-make-offer-for-andre-silva-the-situation-and-ac-mila-59517 Slightly odd link to a striker. Not sure where he'd fit in, but would be a very good signing. Would surely spell the end for Long, Austin, Gallagher and Carrillo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 Was linked with wolves a couple of weeks ago so maybe a release from his agent designed to hurry them up? Would be a touch surprised if we are after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 Not sure where he'd fit in, but would be a very good signing. Would surely spell the end for Long, Austin, Gallagher and Carrillo. Fits the profile at least. Wonder if there's any chance we could be looking to move Ings on to one of the promoted clubs at cost or a small loss? I remember reading a few months ago how Dortmund have a policy of selling pretty much anyone in midfield/attack aged over 25/26 as their data suggested capacity to run and press drops sharply from that point onward. Leipzig have a similar recruitment policy, so I wonder if Ralph wants us to adopt a similar approach here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 Fits the profile at least. Wonder if there's any chance we could be looking to move Ings on to one of the promoted clubs at cost or a small loss? I remember reading a few months ago how Dortmund have a policy of selling pretty much anyone in midfield/attack aged over 25/26 as their data suggested capacity to run and press drops sharply from that point onward. Leipzig have a similar recruitment policy, so I wonder if Ralph wants us to adopt a similar approach here? Wouldn't have thought so given we only signed him Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 think it was just a paper excercise on Monday though with all in place at the original transfer time as generally reported. If we have 2 up front i guess we need 4 in the squad that can play there? Is 5 too many? Adams, Ings, Redmond, Long with gallagher and austin out. Personally think another striker (if really the right one) could fit in there with a risk of ings breaking down with injury and redmond being used in a different role that said its probably agent ******** with our priorities surely elsewhere on the pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 think it was just a paper excercise on Monday though with all in place at the original transfer time as generally reported. If we have 2 up front i guess we need 4 in the squad that can play there? Is 5 too many? Adams, Ings, Redmond, Long with gallagher and austin out. Personally think another striker (if really the right one) could fit in there with a risk of ings ! You forgot Obafemi, plus I'd imagine Djenepro could play as a striker in Hasenhuttl's system if we really needed. Any more strikers is just bloating an already bloated squad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 Wouldn't have thought so given we only signed him Monday. We signed him on Monday as the 1st July is the start date of all professional football contracts in England, and we were obliged to sign him under the terms of the deal we did last summer with Liverpool. I don't think that will have any impact on whether or not we are planning to do what verlaine1979 suggested. Edit: We obviously signed him, not singed him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 Wouldn't have thought so given we only signed him Monday. Remember Wolves buying a striker then shipping him out 10 days or so later to Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 https://m.calciomercato.com/en/news/southampton-make-offer-for-andre-silva-the-situation-and-ac-mila-59517 Slightly odd link to a striker. Adam Blackmore says 100% not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 We've signed Ramello Mitchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 3 July, 2019 Share Posted 3 July, 2019 think it was just a paper excercise on Monday though with all in place at the original transfer time as generally reported. If we have 2 up front i guess we need 4 in the squad that can play there? Is 5 too many? Adams, Ings, Redmond, Long with gallagher and austin out. Personally think another striker (if really the right one) could fit in there with a risk of ings breaking down with injury and redmond being used in a different role that said its probably agent ******** with our priorities surely elsewhere on the pitch!Forgotten Obafemi? Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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