Baird of the land Posted 12 June, 2021 Share Posted 12 June, 2021 17 minutes ago, CB Fry said: I see it wasn't quite as straightforward as "the players all agreed to play the game tonight". It was pretty straightforward. If he hadn’t of been stabilized I seriously doubt either option would have been considered. As it was options presented seem pretty sensible given the schedule and game needing completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Glad to read Eriksen seems stable and hopefully on the road to full recovery. The real concern for me is if a professional,fit,healthy young man,who is monitored every day has a serious health issue what happens to Joe Soap. Particularly as in a significant tournament where they would have the best medical facilities which potentially saved his life. What if that happens to the local lad in the Sunday morning junior league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 42 minutes ago, Red said: Glad to read Eriksen seems stable and hopefully on the road to full recovery. The real concern for me is if a professional,fit,healthy young man,who is monitored every day has a serious health issue what happens to Joe Soap. Particularly as in a significant tournament where they would have the best medical facilities which potentially saved his life. What if that happens to the local lad in the Sunday morning junior league? It does happen all the time and people die. What's your point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 14 hours ago, whelk said: I assume the BBC were only ones who kept coverage and every other nation’s tv networks knew exactly what happened instantly and went to their studios BBC control the switchboard to cut back to the studio though. As soon as they started giving him CPR they should have cut to the studio. Indefensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Something I noticed yesterday having driven to Brighton and back was a complete absence cars with England flags flying off them. Barely any flags hanging out of windows or on show anywhere other than in pubs. Flags are usually everywhere for major tournaments but this time there's nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 11 hours ago, CB Fry said: I see it wasn't quite as straightforward as "the players all agreed to play the game tonight". Surprised they didnt just agree to take a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 17 minutes ago, The Cat said: Something I noticed yesterday having driven to Brighton and back was a complete absence cars with England flags flying off them. Barely any flags hanging out of windows or on show anywhere other than in pubs. Flags are usually everywhere for major tournaments but this time there's nothing. Yeah you are right. Haven’t even noticed any Polish flags draped from Shirley Towers windows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 I agree, it was terrible that the BBC didn't switch back to the studio more quickly. The other thing I found weird - and bizarre - was that they used those flags to over the stretcher as they deparetd the pitch. To my mind, this meant for sure that he was dead. Also, there are no reports yet - are there? - about what actually happened to him? Stroke? Anyeurism? Heart attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 46 minutes ago, SKD said: BBC control the switchboard to cut back to the studio though. As soon as they started giving him CPR they should have cut to the studio. Indefensible. Yep they had the ability to show or not to show it. The lad looked touch and go, and to show that plus his missus and the other players in understandable distress was gratuitous and insensitive. Poor effort from the BBC and Linekers apology very half arsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SaintBobby said: I agree, it was terrible that the BBC didn't switch back to the studio more quickly. The other thing I found weird - and bizarre - was that they used those flags to over the stretcher as they deparetd the pitch. To my mind, this meant for sure that he was dead. Also, there are no reports yet - are there? - about what actually happened to him? Stroke? Anyeurism? Heart attack? The Denmark manager (or a medic on the scene, I forget which) mentioned Heart. He said there was a pulse, then no pulse, heart issue, cpr. Edited 13 June, 2021 by egg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 11 hours ago, Billy the Kidd said: I agree there would have been serious shouts for the tournament to be needed, but I very much doubt it would be stopped even if a player died. They may postpone games for a couple of days, but that’s likely about all they’d do. Fortunately he didn’t die and hopefully he will be ok but why cancel the whole tournament? People die everyday. As said I expect Denmark would have withdrawn out of respect and players would have worn black armbands. No doubt it would have cast a deep shadow over the rest of the competition but it would have been played out in his honour, I expect. Thank goodness it is just conjecture and it is good to hear that he has been stabilised. I was listening on TalkSport and that fool Adrian Durham was giving the BBC a hard time over their coverage, yet they continued to cover it themselves continuously despite having run out of things to say. It became embarrassing in the end as there is only so much you can say about a situation in which you have little first hand information. Just as they were saying that the tv coverage should have been curtailed, they probably should have done the same and put on some music or cut to another topic with the occasional update. The guys in the studio were clearly struggling for things to say and were obviously upset. Thankfully things don’t happen like this very often in professional sport but do happen to “normal” people. I knew someone, fit as a fiddle, dropped dead on a running machine in a gym. There is more monitoring in amateur sports but not enough and there are hundreds of people out and about who have potential life threatening underlying health conditions. Again, as said earlier, it is incredible that CE’s condition hasn’t been picked up through monitoring before and it will be interesting to see what the diagnoses is. Leats hope that he makes a full recovery and that this unfortunate episode brings on a greater awareness of the need for greater health screening amongst all people engaging in sporting activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 8 hours ago, Red said: Glad to read Eriksen seems stable and hopefully on the road to full recovery. The real concern for me is if a professional,fit,healthy young man,who is monitored every day has a serious health issue what happens to Joe Soap. Particularly as in a significant tournament where they would have the best medical facilities which potentially saved his life. What if that happens to the local lad in the Sunday morning junior league? Sadly it happens daily, in all walks of life. I knew of someone years and years ago, fit, healthy, just dropped to the floor outside a shop. That was it. I don't know what you're calling for? change? What could be changed? When your lucks out your lucks out, all this does is highlight how much of a thin rope we all tread on a daily basis really. No one knows what can happen tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 13 hours ago, S-Clarke said: As someone else mentioned, best place to have that sort of medical episode is on a football pitch surrounded by medical staff, defibs and all the required treatment. It looked bleak but they've all saved his life. I'm amazed the game went on, Denmark were never in the right frame and the game was at such a slow pace. Doesn't feel like the result really mattered in the end though. The best place after a hospital. It's scary how a professional footballer can go through medicals and play fast, high action games for years without any problems, then suddenly collapse. My eldest son's friend died in the middle of a football match. He was only 14. His poor mother never got over it. Hats off to the medics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, egg said: Yep they had the ability to show or not to show it. The lad looked touch and go, and to show that plus his missus and the other players in understandable distress was gratuitous and insensitive. Poor effort from the BBC and Linekers apology very half arsed. What was half arsed about it? Should he do the next broadcast in sack cloth? Special sort of people who want to get angry at the BBC. There’s always Points of View. Edited 13 June, 2021 by whelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrimsaint Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 1 hour ago, egg said: Yep they had the ability to show or not to show it. The lad looked touch and go, and to show that plus his missus and the other players in understandable distress was gratuitous and insensitive. Poor effort from the BBC and Linekers apology very half arsed. I remember watching the Tommy Cooper thing as it happened on the telly as a kid. If I remember rightly it didn’t seem as intense as the crowd were laughing and I think the curtains were pulled over on the stage with his legs sticking out. It just seemed surreal. In this case players go down injured all the time so it’s a judgment call on how serious it is. It seems a kind of limbo takes over and a bit of rubber necking also. I didn’t see the incident nor do I intend to seek it out but I reckon a fair few will . Human nature I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Funny how all those complaining about how disgraceful the BBC were seem to be able recite, chapter and verse, exactly what was broadcast. None of you thought of switching off, lads? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 3 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Funny how all those complaining about how disgraceful the BBC were seem to be able recite, chapter and verse, exactly what was broadcast. None of you thought of switching off, lads? I didn’t see it at the time, but have since looked up the BBC coverage and am now outraged. #wanttobeoffended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 (edited) Well fair play to them I guess for finishing the game, but they should definitely have replayed the match today (thought that before the result). Think someone at the top should have taken the decision off the players shoulders. I shouldn’t laugh but Hojbjerb clearly fancies himself as a bit of a Henderson. Edited 13 June, 2021 by Sunglasses Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 2 hours ago, The Cat said: Something I noticed yesterday having driven to Brighton and back was a complete absence cars with England flags flying off them. Barely any flags hanging out of windows or on show anywhere other than in pubs. Flags are usually everywhere for major tournaments but this time there's nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: Funny how all those complaining about how disgraceful the BBC were seem to be able recite, chapter and verse, exactly what was broadcast. None of you thought of switching off, lads? There's all sorts of stuff I'd watch on TV, but i don't think should be broadcast. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 1 hour ago, whelk said: What was half arsed about it? Should he do the next broadcast in sack cloth? Special sort of people who want to get angry at the BBC. There’s always Points of View. No anger mate, but his blaming the source of the source of the images was poor. BBC decide whether they cut or zoom in on a bloke in a bad way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Trippier at left back and 2 holding midfielders. Southgate is special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 5 minutes ago, egg said: Trippier at left back and 2 holding midfielders. Southgate is special. Surely Chillwell is injured, ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Surely Chillwell is injured, ridiculous. Maybe, but Shaw has been in great form. And is a left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Back in the 70’s I was playing and our coach went to catch a ball, slipped over and didn’t get up. He died on the way to hospital. 39 years old, ex Guardsman and still played the occasional game. A family friend who I had known all my life. Turns out he had a weakness in an artery in his brain which could have caused a haemorrhage at any time of his life. You just don’t know... Anyway, Trippier at left back and Grealish on the bench? Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 1 hour ago, Sunglasses Ron said: Well fair play to them I guess for finishing the game, but they should definitely have replayed the match today (thought that before the result). Think someone at the top should have taken the decision off the players shoulders. I shouldn’t laugh but Hojbjerb clearly fancies himself as a bit of a Henderson. I do wonder if Someone like Mourinho would have simply taken it out of their hands and made the decision themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Trippier out of position at LB presumably because he's the only player who can take free kick but we need 2 defensive midfielders stood next to each other while JWP watches from his sofa. All makes perfect sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 No Grealish. Southgate out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 That BBC clip of past tournament snippets was quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 35 minutes ago, egg said: No anger mate, but his blaming the source of the source of the images was poor. BBC decide whether they cut or zoom in on a bloke in a bad way. People make mistakes and people apologise. Witch-hunts are far more popular than they used to be is all i can say. anyway back to the football, has SKD started knocking one out yet looking forward to these Marxist getting booed and told what we really think of them? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Just now, whelk said: People make mistakes and people apologise. Witch-hunts are far more popular than they used to be is all i can say. anyway back to the football, has SKD started knocking one out yet looking forward to these Marxist getting booed and told what we really think of them? Not yet, give it time. #Marxistwatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Just knob off Southgate. Although I liked the way Lineker pronounced Trippier’s name in French first off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 37 minutes ago, whelk said: That BBC clip of past tournament snippets was quality. Just reconfirmed what I think right now. "This batch of players" "young talent" "this time we've got a real chance" etc etc. Heard it all before. This lot could go out in the group stage and wouldn't surprise me. Tyrone Mings and we can't even field a recognised left back in the first game of the tournament. Come on England! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 No Shaw is daft, 2 defensive midfielders is a utterly stupid but typical Southgate but Tyrone fukin Mings is an absolute joke, he is hilariously shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Sing the anthem loud lads for Lizzie and the Lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 If only JWP had taken that corner we'd already be one-nil up 😪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 If only we had a left back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whelk Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Hopefully Lineker is suitably apologetic and contrite at half time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 1 minute ago, whelk said: That’s where Scotland are staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, whelk said: Hopefully Lineker is suitably apologetic and contrite at half time They should switch to the drone aerial shots of the pitch until it is resolved. Edited 13 June, 2021 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 This game started well but England have gone predictably stale now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Is there a ban on singing? Crowd are so quiet compared to the other games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Good start but now feel like watching Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Well at least we got the goalkeeper who can kick it the farthest 🤗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 Need a decent free kick taker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 32 minutes ago, CB Fry said: If only JWP had taken that corner we'd already be one-nil up 😪 Would have been 2-0 now 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 33 minutes ago, CB Fry said: If only JWP had taken that corner we'd already be one-nil up 😪 Two nil up now if we had taken him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 1 minute ago, Turkish said: Would have been 2-0 now 🙄 Beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 June, 2021 Share Posted 13 June, 2021 JWP scores there. FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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