Willo of Whiteley Posted April 27 Posted April 27 He talked about Russell Martin like a second father. He needs to remember that football careers are short and managers come and go, some you will like, some you will not. But it’s important to not throw your toys out the pram. He is still a kid, a very weedy kid that is playing in the Premier League. How many of his former colleagues in the same age group gone on to play first team football at their age? Last time I checked they were playing low EFL level or U18 football on big money elsewhere. He needs to stay grounded, stay local. If he talks about how much he loves the club, commit, knuckle down, put this season down to one of learning and be ready for next season. He could be an absolute diamond next season.
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 27 Posted April 27 1 hour ago, lambtiss said: I completely agree, especially on the 91st minute of a game where you desperately need a point. He also made an error that led to a Crystal Palace goal. This sums up the softness at our club. The senior pros or management should have dug him out after the Palace game. A proper bollocking would have ensured he didn’t do the same thing 2 weeks later. Not our soft as shite son-in-laws, I bet they gave him a cuddle and said “never mind”….Does he even know it’s wrong to mince about with the ball in the dying seconds? 4
Hodgey Posted April 27 Posted April 27 Very harsh comments. He’s a kid learning his trade who in his first full season has to learn 3 completely different styles of play under 3 different bosses in the toughest league in the world. I actually think he is being managed pretty well - his form has dropped, he’s been dropped and I’m pretty sure his mistakes are being highlighted. He’s definitely not weedy either, the main reason he will go for £50m is that he has already shown he can physically mix it at this level. Seems like a really odd scapegoat - he’s going to have a great career, I’d love to see him for a couple more seasons but it’s pretty unlikely unless we get a new manager he instantly bonds with. 3
Gingeletiss Posted April 27 Posted April 27 35 minutes ago, Hodgey said: Very harsh comments. He’s a kid learning his trade who in his first full season has to learn 3 completely different styles of play under 3 different bosses in the toughest league in the world. I actually think he is being managed pretty well - his form has dropped, he’s been dropped and I’m pretty sure his mistakes are being highlighted. He’s definitely not weedy either, the main reason he will go for £50m is that he has already shown he can physically mix it at this level. Seems like a really odd scapegoat - he’s going to have a great career, I’d love to see him for a couple more seasons but it’s pretty unlikely unless we get a new manager he instantly bonds with. Nah! they love slagging off our youngsters on here. 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 27 Posted April 27 22 minutes ago, Hodgey said: He’s a kid learning his trade Why’s he making the same mistakes again then? He’s either a slow learner, or he’s not being coached properly. I suspect it’s the second one. If he was my kid, I’d want him in a different environment where a winning mentality runs deep and once you’re told something it’s ingrained. Souness said at Liverpool nobody was ever told anything twice, you either got it, or you got moved on. He looks like he’s been indulged by the club to me, he needs some tough love.
Whitey Grandad Posted April 27 Posted April 27 Some people here are making excuse for him on account of his age. In which case don't throw him on for the last few minutes when you're trying to hang on to a point or three. 3
lambtiss Posted April 27 Posted April 27 1 hour ago, Hodgey said: Very harsh comments. He’s a kid learning his trade who in his first full season has to learn 3 completely different styles of play under 3 different bosses in the toughest league in the world. I actually think he is being managed pretty well - his form has dropped, he’s been dropped and I’m pretty sure his mistakes are being highlighted. He’s definitely not weedy either, the main reason he will go for £50m is that he has already shown he can physically mix it at this level. Seems like a really odd scapegoat - he’s going to have a great career, I’d love to see him for a couple more seasons but it’s pretty unlikely unless we get a new manager he instantly bonds with. We are not going to get £50m for Dibling. 1
Fabrice29 Posted April 27 Posted April 27 59 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: Some people here are making excuse for him on account of his age. In which case don't throw him on for the last few minutes when you're trying to hang on to a point or three. That's on the manager though isn't it. And I suspect the manager wants him on to win free kicks and drag us up the pitch which makes sense. But once again I want to reiterate anyone having a pop at this kid for his cameo performances in a side that is a) terrible and b) set up completely the opposite that he has learnt and is good at, is genuinely deluded 1
Whitey Grandad Posted April 27 Posted April 27 1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said: That's on the manager though isn't it. And I suspect the manager wants him on to win free kicks and drag us up the pitch which makes sense. But once again I want to reiterate anyone having a pop at this kid for his cameo performances in a side that is a) terrible and b) set up completely the opposite that he has learnt and is good at, is genuinely deluded He was a long way away from doing that.
pimpin4rizeal Posted April 27 Posted April 27 On 26/04/2025 at 07:01, Saint86 said: If he doesn't sign a new contract the club will pretty much have to sell this summer to maximise value. Similarly there isn't much point developing him for a year only for him to leave in the cheap next summer. This should be sorted before we even started throwing him premier league game time.. .you wanna pay premier league football ? Sign the contract!.. Robinson signed, maybe it would be better to reward the youngsters who actually commit 2
Matthew Le God Posted Friday at 12:10 Posted Friday at 12:10 Some fans suggested Dibling missed our last game for transfer related reasons. He has withdrawn from the England under 19 squad due to injuries, so it suggests he did miss the Arsneal game, for example, for genuine injury reasons. 1
S-Clarke Posted Friday at 15:19 Posted Friday at 15:19 (edited) If I was advising him, I'd tell him that a good season as a key player in a Championship side would benefit you much more than heading to Spurs and Utd and being part of a dysfunctional mess, and on the bench. Obviously money comes into it, but at his age he should be worrying about his development and playing games in a winning side at Championship level will do a lot more for his development than sitting on the bench at Spurs. Otherwise he'll end up as a Jack Clarke or Patrick Roberts type player - snared at a young age for big bucks, but actually has to go back to the Championship to earn his trade anyway - years later than would have been the case had they stuck at Leeds and Fulham respectively. Hopefully he has his head screwed on. Edited Friday at 15:21 by S-Clarke 6
rallyboy Posted Friday at 15:39 Posted Friday at 15:39 Indeed, if he's brutally honest with himself he has a long way to go before he's a Premier League player, anyone who has seen him knows that. Potential and talent in abundance, but a lot of work, commitment and end product is needed for him to get there, and the last thing his career needs at this pivotal point is bench time, it would be like putting on the handbrake and watching everyone else develop around him. So now we discover whether his agent wants success for Tyler or just a short term payout. If I was the cynical sort I know what I would expect to happen next, thankfully I'm not and only see the best in everyone so I look forward to seeing him get his big move NEXT summer, with our blessing, after a great season with Saints. 2
die Mannyschaft Posted Friday at 16:36 Posted Friday at 16:36 54 minutes ago, rallyboy said: Indeed, if he's brutally honest with himself he has a long way to go before he's a Premier League player, anyone who has seen him knows that. Potential and talent in abundance, but a lot of work, commitment and end product is needed for him to get there, and the last thing his career needs at this pivotal point is bench time, it would be like putting on the handbrake and watching everyone else develop around him. So now we discover whether his agent wants success for Tyler or just a short term payout. If I was the cynical sort I know what I would expect to happen next, thankfully I'm not and only see the best in everyone so I look forward to seeing him get his big move NEXT summer, with our blessing, after a great season with Saints. The performances went flat in the run in similar to all the newspaper noise of a transfer. Any deal should have been in motion before last 4 games. I think he will now stay and depending on performance Jan or next July window transfer.
East Kent Saint Posted Friday at 16:57 Posted Friday at 16:57 (edited) It would be good if he is properly coached by the new team manager . I hope Still can see his potential and his personal issues to get the best out of him for mutual benefit . Edited Friday at 16:57 by East Kent Saint
saintant Posted Friday at 17:02 Posted Friday at 17:02 26 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said: The performances went flat in the run in similar to all the newspaper noise of a transfer. Any deal should have been in motion before last 4 games. I think he will now stay and depending on performance Jan or next July window transfer. The performances went flat way before the run-in. 4
Willo of Whiteley Posted Friday at 17:55 Posted Friday at 17:55 Probably missed the Arsenal game so he could bomb it to Heathrow to catch his flight to Bali after the lap of dishonour 😂 He’s been decent at times this season, more so under Martin, but he has been absent since then. He’s just been one of the brighter sparks in what has been a horrific season. Lots to learn and if he sticks around he could be prolific next season.
AlexLaw76 Posted Friday at 18:59 Posted Friday at 18:59 Performances went flat when we had a man manager wedded to man marking
Roboze Posted Friday at 21:17 Posted Friday at 21:17 WS is young and has (i hope) big plans for Tyler, so i'd suspect hes one of the first players hes speaking to....
Tommy Posted Friday at 21:45 Posted Friday at 21:45 Dont think he will survive in a structure the club wants on high intensity pressing, kids too lazy off the ball.
Charlie Wayman Posted Friday at 21:58 Posted Friday at 21:58 6 hours ago, S-Clarke said: If I was advising him, I'd tell him that a good season as a key player in a Championship side would benefit you much more than heading to Spurs and Utd and being part of a dysfunctional mess, and on the bench. Obviously money comes into it, but at his age he should be worrying about his development and playing games in a winning side at Championship level will do a lot more for his development than sitting on the bench at Spurs. Otherwise he'll end up as a Jack Clarke or Patrick Roberts type player - snared at a young age for big bucks, but actually has to go back to the Championship to earn his trade anyway - years later than would have been the case had they stuck at Leeds and Fulham respectively. Hopefully he has his head screwed on. If one of the big guys calls, let's do a deal where he gets loaned back to us for next season
Charlie Wayman Posted Friday at 22:01 Posted Friday at 22:01 14 minutes ago, Tommy said: Dont think he will survive in a structure the club wants on high intensity pressing, kids too lazy off the ball. Don't be so silly, he's a kid learning his trade. When he is tronger and has more stamina he'll be a fantastic player 4
LeG Posted yesterday at 11:42 Posted yesterday at 11:42 The club will 100pc look to sell Dibling and then try and keep Fernandes, esp with Robinson coming through. If we get huge money for Dibling it does absolute wonders for the club as it’s pure profit for FFP / our accounts and allows us to facilitate a rebuild with the most money and biggest budget in the league. The sticking point…does Dibling actually want to leave? I’m not sure on that one. He likes routine - doesn’t like change. 6
Matthew Le God Posted yesterday at 11:49 Posted yesterday at 11:49 6 minutes ago, LeG said: The club will 100pc look to sell Dibling and then try and keep Fernandes, esp with Robinson coming through. If we get huge money for Dibling it does absolute wonders for the club as it’s pure profit for FFP / our accounts and allows us to facilitate a rebuild with the most money and biggest budget in the league. The sticking point…does Dibling actually want to leave? I’m not sure on that one. He likes routine - doesn’t like change. Perhaps he should sign a new contract with a bigger wage then! 3 1
LeG Posted yesterday at 12:18 Posted yesterday at 12:18 26 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Perhaps he should sign a new contract with a bigger wage then! Agent will land 10pc of any sale. It’s safe to say he will prefer the £5m now vs just 10pc of a better weekly wage for Tyler.
Pamplemousse Posted yesterday at 13:52 Posted yesterday at 13:52 But he may get 8 or 9 million in a couple of years if he does sign a new deal. Anyway hopefully it gets resolved this summer, whatever happens.
spyinthesky Posted yesterday at 15:07 Posted yesterday at 15:07 3 hours ago, LeG said: The club will 100pc look to sell Dibling and then try and keep Fernandes, esp with Robinson coming through. If we get huge money for Dibling it does absolute wonders for the club as it’s pure profit for FFP / our accounts and allows us to facilitate a rebuild with the most money and biggest budget in the league. The sticking point…does Dibling actually want to leave? I’m not sure on that one. He likes routine - doesn’t like change. I have been told on good authority that he has recently bought a house on the western outskirts of Southampton. Bearing in mind he seems to be a home bird, as assumed after his exit from Chelsea, he may be here next season. 7
BARCELONASAINT Posted yesterday at 15:45 Posted yesterday at 15:45 On 17/12/2024 at 20:23, BARCELONASAINT said: I have a close friend that knows Tyler and the Dibling family very well. By all accounts Tyler is a very level headed lad who values friends and family first and foremost and who is a very quiet lad. I totally agree with the above that this sounds like agent bollocks just trying to squeeze more out of Saints at a time where the club would be desperate not to lose their prized asset. As far as i'm concerned nothing has changed since i posted this in January. I would be very surprised if he left! 5
It's There Posted yesterday at 16:38 Posted yesterday at 16:38 I hope he stays. He’s young, needs support and has already tasted the joys and tribulations of moving club. I suspect he will want to stay at this juncture, and I think the club should turn down offers and consider an improved contract. I also think the new manager may bring out the best in him.
sfc4prem Posted yesterday at 16:41 Posted yesterday at 16:41 He would do well by staying and performing excellently at Championship level, similar to someone like Lallana who really benefited from playing in a team at L1 and Championship that experienc3dd real success. 1
Saint86 Posted yesterday at 19:26 Posted yesterday at 19:26 7 hours ago, LeG said: The club will 100pc look to sell Dibling and then try and keep Fernandes. 1
Dark Munster Posted yesterday at 19:46 Posted yesterday at 19:46 3 hours ago, sockeye said: We're gonna walk this league Russel Martin has gone, so hopefully we'll actually do some running instead. 11
Dman Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago The best result for all parties (imo of course), would be for us to sell to a top 6 club and to have him back next season on loan. It would give us (hopefully) a decent revenue income to give us a chance to keep someone like Fernandes & I can't see hinm getting a game at a top club so It would give Tyler a season in familar surroundings another year of first team football. Of course, he could be worth 80m in the future, but he could also not develop and be worth nothing (second half of the season has worried me). We simply cannot risk not selling if someone serious comes in. 2
DT Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Please not Spurs. Few rumours flying around. Anywhere but there. Hope he stays!
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 29 minutes ago, DT said: Please not Spurs. Few rumours flying around. Anywhere but there. Hope he stays! What does it matter where he goes? Long as we get top price, couldn't care less where he ends up. 4
suewhistle Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Long as we get top price, That's why people are worried about Spurs.. 4 2
Turkish Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 57 minutes ago, DT said: Please not Spurs. Few rumours flying around. Anywhere but there. Hope he stays! are any of the "big clubs" remotely likeable these days? None of them imo, miles ahead of the rest in terms of finances and football is complete rigged for their success, it's all about the Premier League brand, everyone else is cannon fodder for that. 6
sockeye Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: are any of the "big clubs" remotely likeable these days? None of them imo, miles ahead of the rest in terms of finances and football is complete rigged for their success, it's all about the Premier League brand, everyone else is cannon fodder for that. Their fans all live in la la land, you can add Newcastle to that group now, it’s like a bunch of middle class kids fighting over daddys inheritance That being said it’s fun beating them and their fans having a melty, especially if there are dodgy var or ref calls along the way 2
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 59 minutes ago, suewhistle said: That's why people are worried about Spurs.. We can reject offers.
DT Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 50 minutes ago, Turkish said: are any of the "big clubs" remotely likeable these days? None of them imo, miles ahead of the rest in terms of finances and football is complete rigged for their success, it's all about the Premier League brand, everyone else is cannon fodder for that. Well that is true. I suppose for me Arsenal aren't too bad (?) but Chelsea are pretty loathsome (and crooked), Liverpool over-sentimental divs who are up in arms when Real Madrid do what they did to us (broadly) over Van Dyke and countless others, and Man City just corrupt Lawyer-funders, fending off 100,000 court cases. Spurs are laughable and deluded, indignant about their supposed golden era that never was, and with only one song. Ours. So yes. 1
DT Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: What does it matter where he goes? Long as we get top price, couldn't care less where he ends up. Because they will pretend they unearthed him, as they did Gareth Bale 1
Dman Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Turkish said: are any of the "big clubs" remotely likeable these days? None of them imo, miles ahead of the rest in terms of finances and football is complete rigged for their success, it's all about the Premier League brand, everyone else is cannon fodder for that. Agreed. However, perhaps its the biterness inside me, but I'd much rather see a solid top 6 than seeing sides like Villa, Brighton, Brentford, Forest, Bournemouth doing well - that just fills me with jeaoulsy. 1
benjii Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 5th biggest net spenders last two seasons....? Bournemouth. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Dman said: Agreed. However, perhaps its the biterness inside me, but I'd much rather see a solid top 6 than seeing sides like Villa, Brighton, Brentford, Forest, Bournemouth doing well - that just fills me with jeaoulsy. Forest and Villa are former European Champs and title winners tbf. Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth are having their days in the sun, but not in the same bracket as that Midlands pair. Brighton have the best chance and infrastructure to establish further and win a major trophy.
Kenilworthy59 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 21 minutes ago, DT said: Well that is true. I suppose for me Arsenal aren't too bad (?) but Chelsea are pretty loathsome (and crooked), Liverpool over-sentimental divs who are up in arms when Real Madrid do what they did to us (broadly) over Van Dyke and countless others, and Man City just corrupt Lawyer-funders, fending off 100,000 court cases. Spurs are laughable and deluded, indignant about their supposed golden era that never was, and with only one song. Ours. So yes. One thing I like to wind Arsenal supporters up with is to refute the claim they often make is that they have never been relegated. Because they were relegated in 1913. The truth is they have never won promotion. They were elected into the first division after World War 1 after a rather suspect voting process (with allegations of corruption), despite only having finished sixth in the second division before the war ended league football. 2 1
Dusic Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago If Sunderland get over £30m for Jobe Bellingham then Dibling is easily worth £50m. 2
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