Tyler Dibling

[beatlesaint]

21 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

The Tyler transfer will not be decided until late in the window ie September 1st given Saints current pricing policy. 

IF Everton are wooing Grealish and Spurs want Savinho that’s two of the most likely buyers out of it- apparently. I don’t think Arsenal, City, United or Liverpool are buying him given there current options in same ish positions which leaves, maybe Villa - and German / Italian/Spanish clubs wont pay what we want. Leaves maybe a surprise offer from the mid table EPL teams or a desperation offer from a newly promoted ones- neither of which look probable - only possible.

At present id say the odds on Tyler signing an extension with a big pay rise and reassured he can leave next season from a top six  are coming in a bit.

In betting terms he’s odds-on favourite to leave this window - but the stay at Saints bet is not quite as big a price anymore. Obviously can all change in an instant!

 

It must be devastating when a dream move to Everton looks like its slipping away. 

[Rebel]

From a footballing perspective Dibling would be better of signing a new contract and staying at Saints for at least another season, getting game time without the pressure of a big fee - and taking his time to learn and develop as a footballer - and become a first team regular - and maybe stay for 2 or more if we go up at the end of this season.

He'd still be well off.....

But from a financial perspective he is far better off signing for a premier league club - even a club in a relative mess like Everton - who will  give him a a 4 or 5 year contract for a stupid amount of money - and he and his family will be set for life and he will never need to play another minute of football. The chances are he will never fulfil his footballing potential - but he will be in the money.

Someone told me at the weekend he'd heard a rumour that Dibling is not that bothered about football - and as a lad from Exeter he doesn't have any great affinity for Saints beyond being in the academy.  

So there is no reason for he and his family to not chase the money if its there.

[beatlesaint]

14 minutes ago, Rebel said:

From a footballing perspective Dibling would be better of signing a new contract and staying at Saints for at least another season, getting game time without the pressure of a big fee - and taking his time to learn and develop as a footballer - and become a first team regular - and maybe stay for 2 or more if we go up at the end of this season.

 

100% and to be fair many pundits NOT associated with Saints have also said he would be better off spending a season tearing up the Championship and then seeing where we are in 12 months time.

But for a young lad, well most people tbf, money talks and I reckon its screaming at Tyler and his family right now.

[sfc4prem]

You'd take the money, too. Who wouldn't!?!

[beatlesaint]

2 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

You'd take the money, too. Who wouldn't!?!

Yeah of course most people would.......but if you thought you could do even better in a years time would the decision be so simple ?

Edited Monday at 11:12 by beatlesaint

[West end Saints]

I'm surprised, given his potential, that a club like Man City or Chelsea don't sign him to stop their competitors getting him and loaning him back. Could be an easier sell to Saints and TB plus will have a player more ready to make an impact

[beatlesaint]

8 minutes ago, West end Saints said:

I'm surprised, given his potential, that a club like Man City or Chelsea don't sign him to stop their competitors getting him and loaning him back. Could be an easier sell to Saints and TB plus will have a player more ready to make an impact

I must admit I thought that might well happen.

[Saint Matty 76]

I actually have zero interest with him sticking around with both Jay Robinson's emergence and Dibling's clear disinterest in putting a shift in amidst speculation. Even further if it means we can somehow afford to keep Fernandes around.

£50m and 25% is obviously a dream figure, hopefully we can get something done at around £45m and 15%. I think anything in that range will be a brilliant deal for us, but also present enough upside to Everton if they can get him playing like he did for 2/3 months.

I have little idea of what to expect for Dibling's career. He looked unplayable in incredibly short bursts so it's surprising to remember how little he contributed and how often he completely vanished from games.

[Saint NL]

Might be the end of Everton's interest

[OldNick]

2 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

I actually have zero interest with him sticking around with both Jay Robinson's emergence and Dibling's clear disinterest in putting a shift in amidst speculation. Even further if it means we can somehow afford to keep Fernandes around.

£50m and 25% is obviously a dream figure, hopefully we can get something done at around £45m and 15%. I think anything in that range will be a brilliant deal for us, but also present enough upside to Everton if they can get him playing like he did for 2/3 months.

I have little idea of what to expect for Dibling's career. He looked unplayable in incredibly short bursts so it's surprising to remember how little he contributed and how often he completely vanished from games.

I think its a bot unfair on Tyller, whilst WS said his mind is not in the right place, he still may be our player and its to our interest that he feels wanted by the fans. If he comes back into th team and the fans get on his back perhaps his performances will be poor and the club would have lost millions of value. Personally I thought 35-40 mil plus add ons would have been very good, but the club have played hard ball and time will tell if we will regret it

[Sheaf Saint]

2 hours ago, Saint NL said:

Might be the end of Everton's interest

Give Me Sport (no idea of its credibility) now reporting that they are eyeing up Fatawu from Leicester instead...

https://www.givemesport.com/abdul-fatawu-everton-targets-tyler-dibling-deal-stalls/

Would be a double bonus for us if we keep TD and Leicester are weakened by losing one of their best players.

[Saint_clark]

5 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

I actually have zero interest with him sticking around with both Jay Robinson's emergence and Dibling's clear disinterest in putting a shift in amidst speculation. Even further if it means we can somehow afford to keep Fernandes around.

£50m and 25% is obviously a dream figure, hopefully we can get something done at around £45m and 15%. I think anything in that range will be a brilliant deal for us, but also present enough upside to Everton if they can get him playing like he did for 2/3 months.

I have little idea of what to expect for Dibling's career. He looked unplayable in incredibly short bursts so it's surprising to remember how little he contributed and how often he completely vanished from games.

I have to agree. Not being able to play while this is going on shows unprofessionalism for me. 

[Roboze]

16 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

I have to agree. Not being able to play while this is going on shows unprofessionalism for me. 

thinks it's more likely they don't want him getting injured.........

[Willo of Whiteley]

I mean he downed tools the second half of the season, he was virtually non-existent.

I’d have taken £40M, fine if the club want to hold out but his value is only going to lower after this summer, especially if he doesn’t live up to the hype or doesn’t sign a new contract.

[SuperSAINT]

[Saint86]

45 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

At a certain point it really does start to look like saints have simply decided that dibling is the one that will be sold...

Edited Monday at 18:57 by Saint86

[Simon3737]

It looks like him and ABK were the only first team players not to be photographed in the new kit: https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/teams/mens-team

[Saint_clark]

1 hour ago, Roboze said:

thinks it's more likely they don't want him getting injured.........

If that were the case I don't think they'd have laid the blame at his feet so publicly. 

[pimpin4rizeal]

2 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

I have to agree. Not being able to play while this is going on shows unprofessionalism for me. 

How do we know it’s down to him though ? Could also be the club saw pound signs so didn’t wanna risk him getting injured ?

[Saint86]

3 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

How do we know it’s down to him though ? Could also be the club saw pound signs so didn’t wanna risk him getting injured ?

Starting to look more and more like the club are also pushing this quite hard at this point.... Everton have loaned Grealish (so he's a lot less likely to be going there), spurs have moved for Savinho, United have already bought 3 very expensive attacking players... and yet the club still won't let him train with the first team, and it does seem a bit odd to have excluded him from being photographed in the new kit if the club have any interest/expectation of him staying. Do we even know that the club have tried to offer him a new (and reasonable contract) at this point? We've had people who know him/his family on here, pretty much all of which have said he's a quiet and good lad, that wouldn't kick off, wouldn't refuse to play, and who loves the club... So it is starting to feel a bit like the club are leaving him in the firing line to take flack from the fans when they're at least as invested in the sale - bit of an Archie Gray situation developing maybe?

Edited Monday at 23:40 by Saint86

[ErwinK1961]

5 hours ago, Saint86 said:

Starting to look more and more like the club are also pushing this quite hard at this point.... Everton have loaned Grealish (so he's a lot less likely to be going there), spurs have moved for Savinho, United have already bought 3 very expensive attacking players... and yet the club still won't let him train with the first team, and it does seem a bit odd to have excluded him from being photographed in the new kit if the club have any interest/expectation of him staying. Do we even know that the club have tried to offer him a new (and reasonable contract) at this point? We've had people who know him/his family on here, pretty much all of which have said he's a quiet and good lad, that wouldn't kick off, wouldn't refuse to play, and who loves the club... So it is starting to feel a bit like the club are leaving him in the firing line to take flack from the fans when they're at least as invested in the sale - bit of an Archie Gray situation developing maybe?

They have 100% offered him a new contract, months ago. He has chosen not to sign it at this point.

He is expected to be back training with them after Northampton if nothing materialises, with a view to him possibly being in the squad for Ipswich.

It was Still’s decision ultimately not to have him training with them before now, as 1) clearly a possible move was close and 2) he only wants people in the squad who are 100% focussed on winning games for us

The club aren’t desperately wanting to sell him, but if it’s a choice between him or Fernandes leaving (for the other one to stay) then Tyler is who they’d prefer to go.

Edited Tuesday at 05:21 by ErwinK1961

[Saint_clark]

9 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

How do we know it’s down to him though ? Could also be the club saw pound signs so didn’t wanna risk him getting injured ?

Because Will Still came out after the game and said Dibling isn't in the right headspace to be a part of the team right now. 

[John B]

34 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

They have 100% offered him a new contract, months ago. He has chosen not to sign it at this point.

He is expected to be back training with them after Northampton if nothing materialises, with a view to him possibly being in the squad for Ipswich.

It was Still’s decision ultimately not to have him training with them before now, as 1) clearly a possible move was close and 2) he only wants people in the squad who are 100% focussed on winning games for us

The club aren’t desperately wanting to sell him, but if it’s a choice between him or Fernandes leaving (for the other one to stay) then Tyler is who they’d prefer to go.

I just cannot see anyone paying £40 m plus for him at the moment   - he went to Chelsea they did not apparently play him

Man U and Liverpool have spent loads this summer Man City and Arsenal do not seem to be interested so where else would he go

Abroad possilbly at least with Lavia and Livvramento they performed consistently in the PL like Fernandes who I think is better bet for PL clubs but as he is on a longer contract there is no rush for the Club to sell

Dibling has a much shorter contract which I am not sure what length of time is left so the club will want to get a decent fee although all the pissing about has not helped in integrating him into the current team and what is the point if we perform well in the first few league games.

[Willo of Whiteley]

I did a post about a week ago. “Top six” clubs will want value for their money, the only ones that would be stupid to pay £50M for a player that has only scored two Premier League goals is Man United, and they’ve already spent £200M this summer despite laying of staff as they were “close to going bust”. 🤦🏻‍♂️😅

The others I’m sure we want better value for money.

That leaves your likes of Everton, Newcastle, Forest, Villa etc. Some very unforgiving crowds, especially if things don’t work out.

Unless someone bids stupid on the final day I think he stays now, and will be reintegrated into the team ready for Pompey at the latest next month.

[Teamsaint1]

1 hour ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I did a post about a week ago. “Top six” clubs will want value for their money, the only ones that would be stupid to pay £50M for a player that has only scored two Premier League goals is Man United, and they’ve already spent £200M this summer despite laying of staff as they were “close to going bust”. 🤦🏻‍♂️😅

The others I’m sure we want better value for money.

That leaves your likes of Everton, Newcastle, Forest, Villa etc. Some very unforgiving crowds, especially if things don’t work out.

Unless someone bids stupid on the final day I think he stays now, and will be reintegrated into the team ready for Pompey at the latest next month.

Which might mean having to sell MF at a discount in a hurry unless we can get a great prices for THB .

We must have to raise a good chunk of cash this summer .

[Saint NL]

Spurs buying Eze now, so they're definitely not buying Tyler...... Dibling to Crystal Palace?

[Oldandtired]

Perhaps this thread should be renamed the 'Perhapsmaybewouldvecouldveshouldve' thread.

Loads of theories, bit short on fact maybe?

[saintant]

24 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Spurs buying Eze now, so they're definitely not buying Tyler...... Dibling to Crystal Palace?

Can't see Palace paying £45-50m of the £60m they'll receive for Eze on the potential of a 19 year old youngster.

[SNSUN]

23 hours ago, beatlesaint said:

It must be devastating when a dream move to Everton looks like its slipping away. 

To be fair, they have new dugouts. And scoreboards. Comes to something when Moyes is going to he the oldest thing in the ground.

[macca155]

I'd be staggered if either of Dibling or Fernades stays, but I doubt if either has much say in it, particularly a quiet 19 yo. The people around them will be making all the noise. I've assumed the club need to cash to bring in other assets, and are actually the ones driving the possible sales, but I know sweet FA so avoid unhelpful speculation Macca.

What a bonus it would be to keep either or both, we can only dream.

[ally_uk]

Can't we offer another contract.

Put in a non promotion release clause.

And a minimum release clause/ top 6 club release clause. 

 

[Saint86]

4 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said:

They have 100% offered him a new contract, months ago. He has chosen not to sign it at this point.

He is expected to be back training with them after Northampton if nothing materialises, with a view to him possibly being in the squad for Ipswich.

It was Still’s decision ultimately not to have him training with them before now, as 1) clearly a possible move was close and 2) he only wants people in the squad who are 100% focussed on winning games for us

The club aren’t desperately wanting to sell him, but if it’s a choice between him or Fernandes leaving (for the other one to stay) then Tyler is who they’d prefer to go.

But who is to say what the terms are off that contract - which is the point i was making above. We've clearly not offered him a contract that he's happy to accept. As Ally says above - we could boost his wage and give him promotion/relegation releases etc. There is always a deal to be done there without trapping him, and similarly, he's only 19 - even a 1-2year extension on an improved wage and with suitable release clauses would work.

What is currently evident is that if the club don't reintegrate him then its the club who are in effect pushing him out - i.e., they're the ones making him train seperatley and trying to prevent any risk of an injury to him (not him refusing to play/train). Hard to look at it as anything other than the club protecting a playable asset which they are banking on selling. Which is not really the narrative that's been circulated until now.

Edited Tuesday at 10:17 by Saint86

[East Kent Saint]

All clubs are juggling various balls ! Don’t expect much resolution until the window is on it’s way to closing gently 😄 

[ErwinK1961]

15 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

But who is to say what the terms are off that contract - which is the point i was making above. We've clearly not offered him a contract that he's happy to accept. As Ally says above - we could boost his wage and give him promotion/relegation releases etc. There is always a deal to be done there without trapping him, and similarly, he's only 19 - even a 1-2year extension on an improved wage and with suitable release clauses would work.

What is currently evident is that if the club don't reintegrate him then its the club who are in effect pushing him out - i.e., they're the ones making him train seperatley and trying to prevent any risk of an injury to him (not him refusing to play/train). Hard to look at it as anything other than the club protecting a playable asset which they are banking on selling. Which is not really the narrative that's been circulated until now.

He’s been taken out of the first team training because the expectation was the Everton deal was going to happen. As it happens, that’s not looking likely at the moment, hence why they’re talking about reintegrating.

He’s been offered a very good contact. If someone doesn’t want to sign it you can’t force them to.

[Dragon_man]

At this point I think its best to move him on for whever price we can get.

Having miseed out on a mega money deal and having to play in the championship will create some resentment. Its human nature. He'll want a move away in January or next summer (unless we get prmotoed and even then he may not want to stay) 

He knows any notable injury ruins that lucrative pay day. A year in the championship is unlikely to increase his earning potential before a premiership move.

Messy situation all round. Best for the club is to draw a line, get what we can and move on.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 10:42 by Dragon_man

[Jimmy_D]

Seems to have gone very much under the radar with other clubs’ fans (and some of our own) that we’ve got owners that have been prepared to sink more money into Saints than any other before them.

Perhaps understandable considering that that investment hasn’t paid off anywhere near the way everyone would have liked, but we’re reportedly in the green on PSR, and so under no financial pressure to sell, except potentially to free up PSR if we think we can replace any outgoings with players that make us better.

[Greenridge]

SSN Reporter at Goodson for the Grealish announcement is not ruling out further discussions with Southampton for Dibling. 

[sfc4prem]

1 minute ago, Greenridge said:

SSN Reporter at Goodson for the Grealish announcement is not ruling out further discussions with Southampton for Dibling. 

They can discuss all they want, just need to stump up 45 million or more. If not, discussions are worth fuck all 

[CampionSaint]

On 11/08/2025 at 12:58, beatlesaint said:

100% and to be fair many pundits NOT associated with Saints have also said he would be better off spending a season tearing up the Championship and then seeing where we are in 12 months time.

But for a young lad, well most people tbf, money talks and I reckon its screaming at Tyler and his family right now.

It's interesting he came running back to us from Chelsea so he's been stung already by moving to a big club and feeling lost.  His parents by all accounts love the way Saints have developed their son.

[derry]

19 minutes ago, Greenridge said:

SSN Reporter at Goodson for the Grealish announcement is not ruling out further discussions with Southampton for Dibling. 

Provided Saints lower their asking price. that's the important bit. That isn't happening.

[RedArmy]

 

31 minutes ago, Greenridge said:

SSN Reporter at Goodson for the Grealish announcement is not ruling out further discussions with Southampton for Dibling. 

I’m not sure why anyone thought Everton loaning a player that doesn’t play the same position as Dibling would end their interest in the first place? 
 

They’ll just wait a couple of weeks and try again at the same price when Saints start getting a bit more desperate. 
 

The club need to get him back in the squad asap because if he scores a coupe of goals between now and the end of the window his price goes up again and Everton can get fucked. 

[SuperSAINT]

Have Everton got any right sided attacking midfielders?

[Weston Super Saint]

8 hours ago, Teamsaint1 said:

 

We must have to raise a good chunk of cash this summer .

Source?

Have we spent more than we've earnt this summer or are we net spend champs again?

[Saint86]

2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Source?

Have we spent more than we've earnt this summer or are we net spend champs again?

I don't think this is guaranteed this year.

Surely all newer signings (i.e., SR era just have 40-50% relegation wage reduction clauses in their contracts. Last time in the champ this was rumoured to not be the case, plus we were in a pretty dire place with PSR.

So, given wages are the bulk of our expenditure, sensible wage clauses should be a significant saving straight off the bat.

We've offloaded kwp, sulemana, onuachu, and ramsdale's wages already. Aribo will also go. And we know edozie is nearing the exit. That's a decent transfer fee income as well as a lot of wages being saved.

We're also surely in a reasonable spot on the PSR balances - turned a profit in the champ, and last season we had the TV monies for a fairly modest squad wage.

We must be reaching a point where PSR isn't a serious concern for the season, and/or where either SR could accommodate a reasonable overspend, or where we are just looking to sell further players to release funds for strengthening? 

 

[SuperSAINT]

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

It’ll be interesting to see if Tyler Dibling is in any training photos over the next couple of days. If he’s reintegrated then you could argue a deal isn’t close.

Saints seem content to lose him now, me included, just so long as we get some wide attacking players in to make up for it.

In other news, an online outlet is reporting we’re happy to see Will Smallbone leave this summer.

[tdmickey3]

It will drag on until the last minute and we will accept less than are publicised valuation and not leave us enough time to get decent replacement 

[saintant]

7 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

It will drag on until the last minute and we will accept less than are publicised valuation and not leave us enough time to get decent replacement 

That would be a very stupid thing to do but then again, this is SR we're talking about.

[sfc4prem]

1 minute ago, saintant said:

That would be a very stupid thing to do but then again, this is SR we're talking about.

When exactly did we let JWP go, out of interest?

[SWLondon Saint]

10 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

It will drag on until the last minute and we will accept less than are publicised valuation and not leave us enough time to get decent replacement 

As said before, literally the only thing SR have been good at is getting decent value when selling. Not that worried.