Tyler Dibling

[Midfield_General]

47 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

No

No offence  @Midfield_General but you previously thought my suggestion to play him was not the way to go. Now you agree he should be involved because he’s our best right side player. Which is it? 

No offence taken.

Play him because it will give us a better chance of beating Ipswich on Saturday, because he’s our best player in that position, and even if he has an average game he’s probably more effective than Adam Armstrong or whoever. 

Not because if he plays he’ll definitely show the world he’s a super duper £45m player and it will make Everton or whoever come running to sign him. 

Being the best right wing option for a championship team doesn’t necessarily make you a £45m player. It just makes you the best we have available. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Midfield_General

[Midfield_General]

27 minutes ago, Chez said:

fair enough, but the alternative view is that we possibly have a superstar at the club, who showed exactly that in the first half of the season and you don't sell them for buttons, even if they didn't show it the entire season, and even if the lad won't commit to a new contract at this point in time. 

As for the negotiations, who knows if it is true that we have gone back to Everton. Might be total bullshit. For all we know Everton have come back with several new bids this week. When a big move is in the offing, so much bollocks is written. Think back to the Lavia move and there were journalists suggesting deals had been agreed at various points at all kinds of prices.

Yep. All true. Stating the obvious, but what it comes down to is what people value him at based on what he’s shown and what they think his potential is, and everyone is going to have different opinions on that. 

Personally I don’t think an offer of £35m + £8m + some sort of sell-on is buttons for him given he’s not signing a new contract, and if we need to sell him to buy as appears to be the case then personally I would probably have taken that rather than gamble on getting a few million more but also possibly seeing his value drop if we don’t sell him this window. 

But I don’t run the club and as a fan I’m not close enough to it, and others may disagree and think he’s worth more, or the gamble was the right one, and of course that’s fine too. The club obviously thought they could get more, either by pushing Everton up further or because they thought there was other genuine interest that would mean more of a bidding war.

They may still be right. The truth is we won’t know until the end of the window. Interesting to see how it plays out. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Midfield_General

[John B]

5 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Yep. All true. Stating the obvious, but what it comes down to is what people value him at based on what he’s shown and what they think his potential is, and everyone is going to have different opinions on that. 

Personally I don’t think an offer of £35m + £8m + some sort of sell-on is buttons for him given he’s not signing a new contract, and if we need to sell him to buy as appears to be the case then personally I would probably have taken that rather than gamble on getting a few million more but also possibly seeing his value drop if we don’t sell him this window. 

But I don’t run the club and as a fan I’m not close enough to it, and others may disagree and think he’s worth more, or the gamble was the right one, and of course that’s fine too. The club obviously thought they could get more, either by pushing Everton up further or because they thought there was other genuine interest that would mean more of a bidding war.

They may still be right. The truth is we won’t know until the end of the window. Interesting to see how it plays out. 

Personally I too don’t think an offer of £35m + £8m + some sort of sell-on is buttons for him given that he has only 2 PL gpals and 2 U21 Caps

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

I know it won't happen but if we managed to get them on at the same time:

Thb 

Downes Charles 

Dibling Fernandes 

Is a frankly ridiculous bunch of players in the championship and arguably superior to last year. 

99 rated bro

[egg]

3 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Completely fair and valid alternate proposal. 🙏. 
Personally, I think Ipswich would be more frightened if he played than if he was kept away. Personally I think our team for Ipswich - and everything about the situation from a Saints pov - is better for him being at worst on bench than left at home. I - and most fans I suspect t would love to see a team that has Tyler, JR and Mateus all playing at same time against a top opponent- which Ipswich away certainly is. 

I don't want us to play someone who doesn't want to be here, and the version of Dibling who showed up for the latter part of last season isn't scaring anyone. 

[OldNick]

7 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Completely fair and valid alternate proposal. 🙏. 
Personally, I think Ipswich would be more frightened if he played than if he was kept away. Personally I think our team for Ipswich - and everything about the situation from a Saints pov - is better for him being at worst on bench than left at home. I - and most fans I suspect t would love to see a team that has Tyler, JR and Mateus all playing at same time against a top opponent- which Ipswich away certainly is. 

Personally I wouldnt play him as TD may not do himself justice or get injured. No doubt the Ipswich players may target him so that he cant be sold to strengthen us this season. 

Edited 2 hours ago by OldNick

[Willo of Whiteley]

I didn’t see him in the latest training video, guessing he’s still training elsewhere