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Mboto Gorge

Mboto Gorge

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3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Looking forward to the post match interview 

It’ll be the previous regimes fault. Another classic Martin go-to excuse to attempt to deflect from his deficiencies. 
“There’s no magic wand, this club have been getting bad results for many years”.

Straight from the Harry Redknapp school of blaming prior management for his bad results 

 

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a1ex2001

a1ex2001

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3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

If they get smashed on Sunday the atmosphere at Ibrox will be proper vitriolic. 

Surely the board have a civic duty to sack him before the. To protect the city…

tdmickey3

tdmickey3

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Just now, a1ex2001 said:

Surely the board have a civic duty to sack him before the. To protect the city…

They should be able to sack him for gross incompetence 

Tauro

Tauro

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I called for his head after the Sundefland debacle. The bloke is a complete fraud. Can Rangers terminate without paying his contract up? 

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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1 minute ago, Tauro said:

I called for his head after the Sundefland debacle. The bloke is a complete fraud. Can Rangers terminate without paying his contract up? 

I don't think probationary periods exist in football unfortunately.

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Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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Seen on twitter 

Celtic Embarrassing Scottish Football in Europe

Russell Martin: hold my wheat free, gluten free, vegan, 0% shandy…

😂

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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I hope Rangers have to pay him double.  Absolutely criminal they gave him the job in the first place.

He’ll be lucky to get a L1 job now, but won’t need the money anyway.

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SfcPhil

SfcPhil

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1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

I hope Rangers have to pay him double.  Absolutely criminal they gave him the job in the first place.

He’ll be lucky to get a L1 job now, but won’t need the money anyway.

He'll land on his feet somewhere by using trendy buzzwords. Might have to go abroad now mind 😂

ChrisPY

ChrisPY

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2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Help me out here guys, cos I don't really know much about Belgian football... Are Brugge actually any good?

Last year beat Sturm Graz, Aston Villa, Sporting and Atalanta (twice) in the Champions League as well as draws against Celtic and Juventus. 

Young squad and lost some of their better players but were favourites for the tie.

An accomplished manager assesses all of that and sets up to give their team a chance.

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Raging Bull

Raging Bull

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He’ll be back on Monday night football soon waxing lyrical about how he’d tactically outwit Liverpool etc. sounding like a natural born winner but ultimately, knowing that everyone watching knows he’s had his bamboo man thong pulled aside and all the other managers have gone in dry. 

Anyway, paging @Fabrice29 etc again to the Martin munching forum. We’re here if you need a gluten free hug. 
 

#chillitsjustbanter

#hespaidafortuneandshouldhaveathickskin

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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10 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Help me out here guys, cos I don't really know much about Belgian football... Are Brugge actually any good?

Brugge are the club Rangers would dream of becoming these days. 

They've got into the CL group stages 7 out of the last 8 seasons. 8 out of 9 now. 

The funds from that, and good recruitment, have enabled them to move up in the players they bring in.

Currently easily able to spend more than Rangers. 

According to capology their revenue was twice that of Rangers in '24, with a strong club environment.

They are what the Rangers owners can now see and aspire to. 

RedArmy

RedArmy

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6 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

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This might not be one of those games where they didn’t win but he’s still happy. 

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Alain Perrin

Alain Perrin

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Personally I quite liked Martin - he did turn us back into winners from the shit show we were on relegation.   That said, I thought his suicide ball and possession focus were over done, and we got bailed out by having better players than many in the league.

However, you can't make a start like that for one of the old firm and expect to keep your job.  Surely he's gone?

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Golac's Cunning Stunts

Golac's Cunning Stunts

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3 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

 

72: SUB! Club Brugge take off Sabbe and bring on Audoor.

In fairness, the Belgian side could bring on Mr Blobby and still win this game.

Might even get a goal...

They could bring on downes and he’d score

 

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Galway saint

Galway saint

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5 minutes ago, Alain Perrin said:

Personally I quite liked Martin - he did turn us back into winners from the shit show we were on relegation.   That said, I thought his suicide ball and possession focus were over done, and we got bailed out by having better players than many in the league.

However, you can't make a start like that for one of the old firm and expect to keep your job.  Surely he's gone?

he’s an articulate guy but a terrible football coach 

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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2 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

“I was pleased with the second half…”

Bravely just conceded the 1 goal in the second half with 10 men. 

Needed to get them in at half time  to tell them to ditch everything he'd been trying to tell them, and just hang on. Just like his last second half with us. 

John Boy Saint

John Boy Saint

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43 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said:

Just wondering if my mate and his chums have headed back to the bar in town already.

Yup they left at half time “couldn’t watch any more of that shit!”.

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Mboto Gorge

Mboto Gorge

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I’d be amazed if they risked him for the old firm game , given the scoreline today on top of the already extreme animosity towards him. If anything the board have been given a very good reason to pull the trigger now with the nature of the result today. They won’t risk going into the weekend with Martin still there 

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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4 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I’d be amazed if they risked him for the old firm game , given the scoreline today on top of the already extreme animosity towards him. If anything the board have been given a very good reason to pull the trigger now with the nature of the result today. They won’t risk going into the weekend with Martin still there 

Plus Martin can deluxe himself into believing he just wasn't able to implement his philosophy and they were still going through the pain phase. It's perfect.

gurru991

gurru991

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1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

You guys got so flaming lucky by the way. Talk about dodging a bullet. 

Absolutely.   I was terrified that we might end up with him

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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ref kindly blew the final whistle early.

Brugge had 32 shots and basically ran rings round Rangers. 6 on the score sheet, but it could easily have been so many more. 

Are there positives after such a beating? 

Sure there are. Put on your NotNowFabrice hats...

Rangers are now in exactly the same European competition that Celtic are now in, having beaten a couple of very decent opponents along the way.

At least one of their European goals was a very good example of RussBall.

As I posted earlier, Brugge are a clued in outfit, well ahead of the basket case at Ibrox. Rangers now have a Europa League format to compete in. 

That was a defeat playing with 10 men.

I said before that Martin's system is set up to do better against stronger opponents, rather than the league. That's one of the reasons they hired him. Outclassed by Brugge shouldn't remove the two rounds they did get through.

As seen tonight, Rangers are trying to put together a team on pennies. This is a stop gap team to lay foundations on what's to come.

Even after all the incomings, they still don't have all the first 11 roles that Martin really needs to have a chance with this system. If he stays, the board should back him through this window. 

Martin has the one system, so if he stays he should get to have the tools to use it effectively. 

Unbeaten in the league. 

 

The negatives were there for everyone to see.

It took to the second half for any sort of tactical reorganisation. That's very poor management from a team needing help to hold it together.

They were under the cosh right from the whistle, and well before losing Aarons. The set up showed that they hadn't learned anything form the last leg. 

Rangers were miles behind on fitness, tactical awareness, strength and fight.

If you have budget players, the least you should be doing is make them really fit and tough to beat. Martin's teams don't seem to recruit or train for that. 

His players looked lost out there in that first half. Looking over to the bench for instructions that changed nothing. Second best in fitness and in everything else there were hurt and angry expressions on their faces. 

Rangers lacked any leaders to change that game around. Because in a system oriented side, such actions see players straight out the team. Martin needs leaders while making sure there aren't any.

Without the players to make a system work and yet persevere with it, leads to results like tonight. No pragmatism exists for Russell. It can't as he depends on driving the same message home. 

When, and it's often a when, things go wrong, there's no way of coming back. Because his system just isn't flexible to do that, and there's only the one. 

His side fell apart tonight, even one man short. Brugge were shooting for fun. The bar alone stopped that being Rangers worst ever defeat. 

Rangers could sack him at any point. On the other hand, he may stay even if a defeat from Celtic is not a terrible one, equivalent to tonight's performance. 

Should results in the couple of games after that go against him, it's hard to see any board sticking with him. You'd need Sport Republic in charge for that level of lunacy. 

leeham_69

leeham_69

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30 minutes ago, Galway saint said:

he’s an articulate guy but a terrible football coach 

Next job in football television rather than football coaching I suspect 

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Help me out here guys, cos I don't really know much about Belgian football... Are Brugge actually any good?

I met a lovely Belgian couple when I was on holiday last year. They are Club Brugge season ticket holders. I'll send them a message tomorrow and find out 😄

AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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Russell Martin's post match reaction (just for LOLz);

  • Start terribly, they score first time they enter the half
  • then we have a man sent off, made it difficult, we lost heads
  • Nothing more to say other than apologise to the fans
  • Such basic errors should not happen, we must show a response on Sun
  • Start badly as there is not enough harmony in the group, we must heal
  • We knew that when we came in
  • Not enough players do not want to fight for the club
  • Some guys are really trying, some are not, window shuts soon
  • The group as a whole, the club, the harmony needs to be better
  • this really hurts, and we must respond on sun
  • I cant say anything to the fans other than apologies and win on sun
  • No fear about the job, the board are really supportive
  • All knew this could take time, focus must be for sun
  • We must accept the pain, accept the humiliation and use it
  • We will see how much sun defines my job, I can only try and perform

 

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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28 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

@Fabrice29 thoughts? 

Wasn’t just him though was it. Far too many Nods were “impressed “ by him (and his buddy Wilcox, how’s it going at Utd), stuck up for him and blamed the players. Even chumps like Blackmore sucked up to him until the very end. 

We went up despite him, and we’re a fucking mess because of him. 

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Galway saint

Galway saint

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12 minutes ago, leeham_69 said:

Next job in football television rather than football coaching I suspect 

I could see him on strictly - think he would do well 

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egg

egg

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cn92pyrg08jt?post=asset%3Ab66443cf-1c3a-4de1-a9b7-815318a920d5#post

Tom English

BBC Scotland chief sports writer on Sportsound

 

The only words that Russell Martin can say that would brighten the spirits of Rangers fans is "I quit". This is an accumulation here, there are not any signs of improvement.

He will love bomb the fans and say he feels the pain just as much as the fans do. If he thinks it'll work, only improvements and victories will win over the fans and the vast majority are gone.

I don't think there is anything he can say that will make things even the tiniest bit better.

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